Uneasiness around greater Alphas

HalfysReddit · 2014-02-25T23:16:40+00:00

The times that you become uncomfortable around them, really do some self-aware conscious thought and consider why it is that you feel uncomfortable. Are you expecting them to become violent? Do you expect that you're going to act in some fashion that is going to damage your reputation? What is it exactly that's causing you to become anxious or otherwise uncomfortable with the situation?

Invalidity · 2014-02-25T22:21:29+00:00

Learn from them, emulate them, etc. They are your guides. All you gotta do is feed their egos for awhile until you've figured them out. Once you've got that down, if you're still anxious you likely have inner game issues that need to be sorted out.

LastRevision · 2014-02-26T05:48:02+00:00

Here is something totally different. Seriously, try this. When you are in these anxiety provoking situations, focus your mental attention on the feeling of your feet in your shoes, and your shoes on the ground; feel the ground beneath you. Do this while listening to others speak, and while maintaining eye contact with them. Got this straight out of "The Charisma Myth," and has worked for me with helping maintain eye contact while listening to others speak at length (necessary for work, taking long instructions, etc.).

[deleted] · 2014-02-25T22:11:35+00:00

From experience: This "alpha" guy was flirting with a girl i'm seeing. I ignore it. When he comes around I just don't let it affect my frame. End. - Perhaps you should bench more. And checkout the how not to give a fuck subreddit.

NikolaTeslaMGTOW · 2014-02-25T22:25:11+00:00

Take a fortify against greater alpha potion. Oh wait you said you already did that.

suscitare · 2014-02-26T05:05:09+00:00

Don't you mean imitate?

It is true that not everyone can be alpha in a group of men but still it is good to be surrounded by quality men. Some of their aura will rub off on you. Learn from them. You can always be/act alpha when you are with other people.

atlas720 · 2014-02-26T22:22:26+00:00

Ok, there is a lot of medium to longer term advice here, but its not really getting to the heart of OPs issue, of which is that he has a short term problem being able to deal with being around these guys. Even mentions that 2 drinks solves the issue. So OP, this is how you get over your original hump, ready? Recognize the fact that these guys want you around. If they didn't, you wouldn't be there. You're welcome.

[deleted] · 2014-02-25T23:17:22+00:00

Stop thinking of the alpha beta bullshit.

It's funny because sometimes people think I am beta because I don't talk as much as them in social situations, I carry myself well but when I speak it is usually considered so I guess you could say I am stoic. However the real douche bags are the ones that bring it up and when I say "Just because I don't run my gab with any retarded stuff that comes to my brain doesn't mean anything" Usually knocks them down a few pegs.

The only person who makes someone more alpha/beta is you. If you act like someone is superior then they are, if you just don't give a shit about the entire alpha/beta crap you more than likely will stop acting like they are superior.

jdetmers · 2014-02-25T22:25:19+00:00

Develop your talents or interests outside of the typical "alpha" behavioural palette. Trying to out-alpha one another will just be a pointless rat-race. Think about what you're good at, and tailor your personality to be complimentary to that.

[deleted] · 2014-02-25T22:43:44+00:00

I tend to subconsciously become more beta around them.

I actually just wrote a post on this subject!

mordanus · 2014-02-25T23:25:17+00:00

We naturally do this. We follow greater men and lead weaker men. If you are uncomfortable around them then it is because you know they are greater than you. You know you don't measure up and follow their lead. The only way to not follow is to have confidence in yourself that you are just as great. The best way to get that confidence is to improve yourself. You don't need to improve yourself in the same way as these other guys. Find a few things for you to do that you excel in and do those things. Martial arts, music, art, business hobbies. Do something that you feel awesome at and your confidence will come. Make it something that other people care about and you will get compliments which will lead to confidence.

Or you could risk the fake it till you make it but if you get called on it you will look like a try hard. It's the equivalent to a woman that wears way too much make up.

spicy_fries · 2014-02-26T03:16:43+00:00

You gotta read this book:

http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/books/the-way-of-men/

It explains male group dynamics and how you can find your place within it.

HitlersCow · 2014-02-26T05:57:38+00:00

Anyone else feel this way being around their father? Seems natural to me to do this around my dad, almost out of respect or something.

Guess that's a whole different topic.

6TLaRm4g · 2014-02-26T08:21:30+00:00

You're just intimidated.

Sobravesocultured · 2014-02-26T09:57:14+00:00

Seriously. I always disregard anyone's ego and do as I please. Not in a rude way. There's a lot of little rules here to acting alpha and it's honestly just advice for guys who want to ACT alpha. Typical jealousy ridden tribal tattoo fanatics. Just act like The good which from the north around "alphas" "You have no power here, be gone before someone drops a house on you too"

Lol referencing a Woman as being Aplha! Swallow these nuts playa!

bonekeeper · 2014-02-26T16:26:32+00:00

intimate or intimidate?

[deleted] · 2014-03-02T11:38:39+00:00

I might get flak for this, but whatever. I don't know your specific situations, but it's not necessarily bad to take a beta role. For example, when integrating into a new group, often it is best to start as beta until you learn the ropes. Take a work role for example. When you first start you are beta. You need to learn how shit works before you can rise to alpha status otherwise you'll likely fuck shit up. When integrating myself into new social groups, I've often taken a reticent beta role until I understood the group dynamics, and then rose to prominent status in the group after fully understanding the milieu.

That being said, there are many ways to attain high status in any given group. I've found that the best way for me is to fill a role that has yet to be filled. With many of my friends, I tend to be the smartest person, so I gain status through intellect. This is how I gained status in the Marines after I became injured and was damned to carry a cane if I fancied walking. It became readily apparent that it wasn't hard to be smarter than the smartest of infantry Marines, so I gained status by proving I was brilliant.

When I was in college, I met people who could match my intellect. I could distinguish myself through it, but there was a great deal more competition in that regard, so I switched. There were few veterans in my classes and fewer infantry veterans. Rare was the person who could match my unique life experiences, perspectives, and general badassdom. I emphasized more these other features because of their rarity, which caused me to stand out.

Here's an example to put it simply. My brother graduated from Harvard. Around his friends I emphasize my physical traits and my Marine Corps experience. Around my Marines I emphasize my intellect. Find the valuable trait that is lacking and emphasize that.

panzergling · 2014-02-25T22:50:07+00:00

Here's what you do: go in for a handshake, but don't introduce yourself. Pull it in for a bro hug, very few people decline bro hugs anymore so you should be golden. When you're in there, instead of slapping his shoulder, gently grab the back of his head, almost a caress, not rough, but don't go playing with his hair. Still holding his other hand, back away and make eye contact. Have a genuine smile ready for him when he looks at you to say "what the fuck?".

Hold the smile for a second, then let it go. Maintain eye contact the whole time.

Then turn away and act like he's not even there.

Three things can happen:

You will have genuinely knocked him out of his comfort zone and he won't want to be around you.

Or he will try to start some shit to which you say "Dude, I was just saying what's up. Relax." Now he looks like a total insecure douche. "What? I can't look at you when I shake your hand?"

Or he'll try to kiss you.

Wins all around.

FortunateBum · 2014-02-25T22:09:43+00:00

I don't think there's anything you can really do.

I think "alphas" are generally of high status. If your status is low, what can you do?

When I'm in such a situation, I keep my mouth shut, listen, be a wallflower as much as possible.

Title	Uneasiness around greater Alphas
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Date	February 25, 2014 10:01 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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