Wading through the bullshit

Swole_is_life · 2015-10-19T16:33:42+00:00

I had a (related) realization recently about how women complain about being told to smile and how creepy it is.

It's not hard to get a woman to smile. It really isn't. If you're remotely attractive/charming, you can make a woman smile just by talking to her for a minute or two.

So how much of a beta/omega male do you have to be for the only way you can think of to make a woman smile is to DEMAND it of her?

Women being told to smile aren't being oppressed by the patriarchy, they're being creeped on by feminized men. An alpha shouldn't ever have trouble making a woman smile just by virtue of his existence.

Side note: are people really that stupid that they can't tell the difference between victim blaming and protecting yourself? A woman never deserves to get raped, ever. She could be walking around naked in a prison full of convicted rapists and she still doesn't deserve to get raped. That doesn't change the fact that it would be incredibly stupid to do so.

Kolbath · 2015-10-19T18:31:59+00:00

Fuck me, dude, I swear you and I are related.

I once stood up at one of those obnoxious "diversity" trainings and asked why we were wasting our time (to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars and thousands of wasted man-hours each year) being trained on "diversity", which comes from the Latin word meaning "to tear apart by the dissimilar" instead of focusing on unity training. After all, we're all wearing the same uniform. We have the same mission. We have the same responsibilities. Why the fuck are we not focusing on those instead of making damn sure we see everyone's skin color because these beta fuckstains (Note: I may have been slightly less offensive in my delivery.) can't go twenty minutes without making sure to condescendingly say, "Remember, now, don't treat that junior person any different because he's Black! Wouldn't want him to be offended!"?

The trainer sort of stood there for a few minutes making fish faces before saying," Uhh... Kol, I don't actually have the answer for that."

I said, "Thanks for trying, sir." Then I sat down and drew football plays on my notes for the rest of the training. Even came up with a new wrinkle to attack a 4-3 Under, so I guess the time wasn't a total fucking waste of taxpayer money.

The funny thing is, it's the officers who need this training, not us. When you're trying to get home alive, all you fucking care about is that the man next to you can do his job. I've never been in combat. My MOS and my branch of service don't put me in those positions. But the only thing I've ever given a shit about is that I can rely on the people around me. Every book, memoir, documentary, or historical document I read says the exact same thing.

It wasn't the grunts who segregated the Armed Forces. No goddamn sergeant said the "coloreds" needed to be in a separate air wing and thereby created the Tuskegee Airmen. It was officers and generals-- the politically appointed cock stains in charge. The rest of us only said, "That motherfucker has a hell of a tan. Can he fight?"

Skin color has never mattered. Gender has. I notice that it's women who get knocked up and need to take the entire pregnancy off from work. I never once saw a single pregnancy that wasn't declared "high risk". According to the military, a woman with seasonal hay fever is at "high risk" and needs to be SIQ (Sick, In Quarters) every day. As a result, I don't think women should be in the military at all, much less in positions of leadership and God forbid in fucking combat.

I appreciate your service. Let me know if you're ever in North Carolina. Beers are on me.

rp_valiant · 2015-10-19T16:07:28+00:00

When these kind of situations occur, it's usually best to put up and shut up. If you keep exposing your true opinions about these kinds of politically-charged messages, you could be liable to see real consequences. We all think it's total bullshit and it's slowly destroying the men in our society, but venting at the bitch-ass motherfucker who's "discussing" i.e. indoctrinating you on these topics can only go badly for you. A better approach might be to joke about it in the barracks with your buddies, loudly, such that any guys who even slightly bought into it will realise how much total bullshit they were forced to sit through. Even the smartest man can begin to question reality when confronted with the same distortions often enough, and joking about the insanity of the whole concept can bring those guys back to sanity.

Rasalom72 · 2015-10-19T15:13:11+00:00

The only response to this type of crap is to ask about "How we deal with men being raped? (in court, in society for being masculine, sexually by other men or by women)" and "Where is the equality for men?" When you flip it, they try to hamster, but if you hold frame, and ask for statistics (as in factual numbers instead of feels), they really don't have much to go on.

FrostyWalrus2 · 2015-10-19T15:31:20+00:00

Shame how healthy discussion like this is shunned or rarely found in the shitty death by powerpoint classrooms in the military classroom. "Listen to our bullshit and live with exactly what we preach." Any objection or speaking out leads to counselings, bad pros/cons, shitty work parties/assignments, etc.

Carry on Sgt, you got some poor, lost sheep in your class objectively thinking about the material you discussed. Hopefully you don't get slammed too hard.

Maximum_Ordinate · 2015-10-19T18:56:20+00:00

You know what? I'm fucking sick of hearing the word "rape." I'm fucking sick of being told it's my goddamn responsibility to ensure that the dumb sorority slut down at the frat house who's had too much to drink doesn't do something she might regret.

I'm a law abiding citizen. I'm not out here raping people. Get the fuck off my dick about goddamn rape. No normal fucking guy is out here just raping bitches left and right like the left is trying to convince us. That shit doesn't fucking happen because guess what, there are motherfucking consequences for breaking the law.

It's a fucking agenda and I'm fucking sick of it being pushed my way. If I get another goddamn email from my university saying that they've enrolled me in a motherfucking rape class or workshop or whatever the fuck, I think I might just snap. I'm sick of having my time wasted because the left thinks it's somehow my responsibility to prevent rape.

BUT IF WE SUGGEST A WOMAN TAKE HER SAFETY INTO HER OWN HANDS ITS FUCKING VICTIM BLAMING!

If I see a bitch getting raped, guess the fuck what? I'm not doing shit to save her. Why? Because I'd rather not fucking die trying to be Captain Save-A-Hoe. No different if it was a guy getting robbed, an old lady getting her ass beat, or someone's car getting jacked. Fuck every single person on this planet, I don't owe you shit. I'm responsible for myself, and you can be responsible for yourself.

Good fucking God, I need to go to the gym now.

freethecoconuts · 2015-10-19T22:14:49+00:00

Military pilot here. Can confirm: we get this shit force fed multiple times per year. But there's another phenomenon going in America: the age of the hyper-sensitive. Anyone and everyone can be offended and get attention for it. The military's big PC push alongside an already beta-evolving culture makes me look over my shoulder anytime I say, well, anything.

Nothing more vulgar or inappropriate than what you will hear leave the mouths of the women here. We keep things professional and deal with it when they aren't.

Not sure what community you're in, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that in aviation dudes are infinitely dirtier/more raw/more blunt about everything (especially women/sex/relationships) when females aren't around. Even the cool/tomboy/lesbian chicks can pull the "I'm offended" card anytime they want, and the default is to side with them. To quote Fat Bastard: "It's a vicious cycle..."

But here's the hope missing from the original post (and most replies): 99% of soldiers/sailors/airmen roll their eyes at this training.

Tom_The_Human · 2015-10-19T16:06:44+00:00

suicide prevention

I see nothing wrong with this.

preventing rape

Nothing intrinsically wrong - especially when trying to win hearts and minds of the population and the supposed high male on male rape - but we both know it's not about that and is handled in a bad way.

You should have agreed and amplified so the presenter could have seen the retardation of his points - something along the lines of "the military should enforce all men to wear chastity belts at all times as they are all potential rapists."

TRPTheRedLion · 2015-10-19T19:29:01+00:00

I wonder if my old team leader would be court martialed these days. We'd get off duty and head to the bar. He'd approach every woman and say the same thing.

"Wanna go back to my place and get a pizza and fuck?" If no, "What you don't like pizza?"

That guy always got fucked. Now he's just a guy that perpetuates rape culture.

McLarenX · 2015-10-19T20:06:01+00:00

Our military is becoming a fucking joke. Good job sir

GasStationCoffee · 2015-10-19T22:08:44+00:00

"But that mentality is the problem. Women are not typically predisposed to act on those thoughts like men are."

Ask him if all the women on his pedestal can check the weather up there.

Stythe · 2015-10-20T18:56:46+00:00

Subtext worth noting: You stated a fact they didn't like and they sent you away so away to avoid debate instead of actually debating what you said. This is not the behaviour of strong or smart people. True strength is willing to debate for the sake of improvement by removing outdated belief systems.

floppymammarygland · 2015-10-19T21:22:08+00:00

Next time you rant... Make sure to include the US Department of Justice statistics that show that rape is the least frequently violent crime we track. Also, it has been on a downward slope over the last few data-points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmHETvyk6eA

http://thefederalist.com/2014/12/11/new-doj-data-on-sexual-assaults-college-students-are-actually-less-likely-to-be-victimized/

Zachar1a · 2015-10-19T22:49:52+00:00

I think you just broke one of the laws of power. Good on you, though!

mugatucrazypills · 2015-10-19T17:36:39+00:00

how many push up did you have to do for that ?

moosevice_dot_com · 2015-10-19T19:10:21+00:00

Military like Schools and Prisons are part of the Elite's playbook for indoctrination into this shit system we live in. Everything said at these facilities should be held with contempt.

tekn0_ · 2015-10-21T09:39:40+00:00

First of all, thank you for your service to the country.

Your post made me think. I know a 60 year old woman who got raped twice in the army as a lab technician. This was when she was in the 70s and 80s I think, when feminism wasn't really out there as bad as it is today. She ended up getting a disability check, and pretty much lives on it. Her problem of having been raped and its after effects on a woman's psyche a real problem.

But your post made me realize that the steps taken to address the problem of real rape in army isn't good or realistic enough, because one they are not being trained to be safe, and you don't want feminism to creep into a professional work area that would affect the professional work culture that the military really epitomizes. I wonder what do you think would be a good strategy to really address such incidents from not happening? Do you think that there should be some way to detect if any psychopaths were getting into the army? I am really curious to hear your thoughts on this.

Lucifers_palace · 2015-10-20T09:42:15+00:00

I am going to assume that due to the nature of your outspokenness, insubordination and general mindset of your peers that you are not an officer in the armed forces. You are infact one of general entry or what i like to call low ranking sappers.

Low ranking sappers like yourselves are constantly being told to control your dicks because high ranking members of the armed forces (officer class) like to keep all the rapey bitches for themselves. As a result you are a beta, this is provable through blood tests which will show that,on average, you and your peers will have lower testosterone levels than your officer counterparts.

You will no doubt reject this notion, but it is out of your control, you are not a alpha, you are a cranky dimwitted man looking for a leader to pull you 8ut of this shit you call life.

It is also well known that people of officer class do indeed like to rape and blame it all on low ranking sappers. So put your hand up, take the blame, get charged and make your superiors happy.

Title	Wading through the bullshit
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Date	October 19, 2015 3:08 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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