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[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
At times it seems as though some of you are Wall Street execs building your way to the top whilst you count the millions, and at times it seems as though some of you are a bunch of "dudes" that just happen to work out.
I've made the same observation as you. I've dubbed these two stereotypes as The LiftBro Redpiller and The Suit Up Redpiller.
The LiftBro Redpiller thinks lifting is the answer to all life's problems. Girlfriend dumped you? Lift. Lost your job? Lift. Your car won't start? Lift.
The Suit Up Redpiller thinks that he is Alec Baldwin from Glengarry Glen Ross. He has a job in finance or sales, loves to talk about how much money he makes, and constantly extols the virtues of wearing a suit. He probably even wears a suit to a 4th of July backyard barbecue, because that's just how much he loves suits.
But, in response to your original question, here's who I am: I'm a 35 year old man who, about 4 or 5 years ago, started discovering the virtues of an IDGAF philosophy on my own. Before that I was a solid bluepiller; I was a serial orbiter (I'd get oneitis for a girl, orbit her for a while, then when I realized she and I were never going to happen I'd find a new girl to orbit), I seldom got laid, and yet I believed that somewhere out there there was "the One" and when the time was right the universe would bring us together. But after multiple rejections and disappointments I started waking up to the fact that I needed to start making my own happiness and stop depending on other people to give it to me. About a year ago I started reading up on red pill philosophy, and I was amazed by how much it resembled the set of beliefs I'd started developing independently over the last few years.
A day in my life is like this: On the days that I work (I work 12 hour shifts) I usually don't have time to do much but work, eat, and sleep. On my days off, I do whatever the fuck I want to. During the winter I go snowboarding a lot. But I also go on dates (I've gotten laid more over the last couple of years than I ever did during my bluepill years), practice guitar, work out, hang out with friends or family, go out to bars, etc. Life is good, and I'm quite happy with where I am. My married friends self-righteously chastise me for still being single, but when I tell them of all the fun things I do I can see the jealousy on their faces. I've got a happy-go-lucky bachelor persona and I'm unapologetic about my desire to remain single, which has caused the wives of my married friends to view me as a bad influence.
Stylistically you could call me a rocker. I have long hair, and I usually dress in tattered jeans and t-shirts. This doesn't score me points with girls who go for clean-cut preppy looking guys, but I've discovered that some women go absolutely nuts for guys who look like a rock star or a biker, and I've learned how to capitalize upon that.
[–]janet_snakewhole 20 points20 points20 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I'm a woman in my early 30s. I wake up at 4.30 am, get ready for work, make breakfast for my husband and I. I'm at work by 6-6.15. I have a well paying job in a financial services company. I'm back home by 5.30. Then my husband and I for a run or we lift weights in the gym depending on which day of the week it is. We have an early dinner and go to bed early.
TBH, I came here to find out why everyone hates this sub so much. I stayed because I'm learning a thing or two. I read all posts about self-improvement. I'm also subscribed to other self improvement subs like getdisciplined and personal finance.
In a year from now, I will have the promotion I have been pursuing for a while. I will have run at least a couple of marathons and reached some aesthetic goals which I'm strength training for.
Edit: typo
[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link
TBH, I came here to find out why everyone hates this sub so much. I stayed because I'm learning a thing or too.
Kudos for checking this sub out for yourself instead of blindly believing what you've been told. A lot of Redditors hate this sub so much that they spread lies and disinformation regarding what it's about.
[–]projectself3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
hi "a woman"..
people hate this sub because of something called "cognitive dissonance". cognitive dissonance is the root of all depression and anger generally speaking. it means you have two competing thoughts in your head at the same time that the brain cannot resolve. Examples of cognitive dissonance that affect people.
love is forever, divorce/death/infidelity. one cannot experience the latter and hold to the belief in the former. It causes depression and anger because the mind cannot hold two opposing thoughts peacefully.
you are good at your job and valued / layoff, fired.. another huge cause of life depression.
most people are good, especially most women. vs. studies that say 70% of married women have cheated. and that's the ones that have admitted it.
then we put some of these red pill "truths" to the test, and find they are true. many women will agree to share a man no matter what they say they want. women would rather be faithful to a guy sleeping with 4 women than be faithful to a guy she is not attracted to.
that every relationship has a power balance, and that one side usually uses it to their advantage. that is very contradictory to what we consciously choose to believe. it is dissonant.
belief in "the one" instead of seeing that generally, people are compatible with lot's of others and that relationships forming have more to do with your mindset entering it. that love is just a set of brain chemicals afterall and those chemicals can be generated with lots of participants.
that 99.99% of relationships have a biological shelf life. that attraction wanes, and life moves on.
When people read these things they are very dissonant from the thoughts in their head so of course it upsets people.
many people just openly want nothing to do with it, because feels right? it feels bad, so it must be bad. some people, men, have been through lifes experiences and seen some of these first hand but never challenged them. RP gives them the ability to resolve dissonance. It allows those feelings of hurt and anger to be resolved allowing the brain to replace depression with anger.
So there are angry men here, a bunch of them. We tell these guys to channel that anger into energy, into action. to be better men, to be in control of their lives, their finances, their emotions, their actions.
.. and of course to sleep with lots of women in the process. to never let a woman define them or their sense of value. That is the core message when you get down to it. If you allow another person to provide your sense of value, that other person can take it away just as easily as they give it. We encourage men to find their own value in themselves and that their self satisfaction is what matters.
There is also a ton of noise in here, 100k subscribers brings all sorts of riff raff. Many of the folks spouting off do not represent the core beliefs and philosophies. thus we have debate. If you want a more concise view of those core tenants without the noise, check out the sidebar, and of course the collection of top posts at http://redpillhandbook.com
*edit, words
[–]mrgregorio0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely have to filter through a bit of rif raf to find the gold that TRP has to offer.
[–]crazydave1979 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I did the marathon thing back when I turned 30.. About 8 halves and one full.. The full damaged my knee into retirement.. Still worth it
[–]nodiggity9721 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
One of my goals it to be able to wake up early, which for you would probably count as "early" (around 6:30am). I was wondering, how on earth do you do it?
[–]Endorsed ContributorScholarInRed5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's quite simple, really.
I never used to be an early riser. In fact, I was on the extreme end of night owl - going fully nocturnal (no joke) during darker periods of depression, to get away from having to deal with people.
Anyway, I now wake up at dawn. You only need two things;
1) The ability to organise yourself so that you can be in bed 8 or so hours before you want to wake up, having done everything you need to do that day.
2) When your alarm goes off, get the fuck up. Forget your snoozes, forget pushing that alarm, and fuck convincing yourself for any reason that you're permitted to stay in bed. Get your fucking ass up and involved with something.
Stick to the above two and you'll do fine. All it takes is discipline to get out of bed - and if you're really tired when you do, don't worry, because you'll sleep like a newborn that night and wake up feeling fresh as steaming shit.
[–]Playboy_Manbaby 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Staying up all night and sleeping all day was the worst thing I did when I was depressed, and it just made me worse. Rather than getting up and going out to meet new people who's company I might enjoy I buried my head in the ground and stuck around home with a family whom I love, but can't bare being around most of the time. Now I'm finished in school, I might actually make some progress with my depressed laziness. Your dead right about discipline though. I spent too much of my life blaming others for my inadequatcy and shortcomings rather than being disciplined enough to make changes.
[–]janet_snakewhole2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It's a habit. It has to be cultivated. I was an early riser since childhood. My father was in the military so discipline was a big part of growing up.
Start by going to bed early. Try 30 minutes earlier every week until you are able to get 7-8 hours every night. Put away all your electronic devices an hour before going to bed and turn off the TV. Try reading a book in bed.
[–]GnarledViking3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm a 27 year old male Postal employee, and spend most of my time working. I'm in one relationship, but I feel like this sub is good for grounding myself and preventing delusion, while helping me build attraction (not just sexual) and increasing my value to the people I hang out with. I'm always looking to improve myself. I've definitely got both blue and red pill tendencies in certain regards, and this sub gives me a language to think about it with.
[–]Skank_of_America2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I am 28 years old. I am a normal guy that isn't rich and had a tough time trying to figure my shit out in my early 20's. Didn't know what would motivate me after I threw religion out of my life. Found this place and I'm at least slightly more motivated than before.
I definitely am taking the advice of becoming a social guy very seriously. I actually go out sometimes and truly practice just talking to people, whereas I wouldn't do that so much before. People have definitely noticed my improvements and actually enjoy talking to me. A lot of the reason for improvement is thanks to this subreddit, so thank you.
The other aspect that I'm trying to make improvements on is self-control. I tried to understand why self-control is an Alpha characteristic like some of you say, so I made some efforts over the course of a couple of days one time. Let me tell you, it actually truly did carry over into my interactions with people. They interpret more of what you say as having authority and you care more about your interactions, as well as having more ability to affect your general actions and attitudes, once the little things in your life are under control. I don't think this can be stressed enough, so let me just say this the way I know how: beyond lifting, self-control, in my opinion, is one of the best things you can do if you're going to try and improve yourself and Alpha up.
More generally, I study Spanish like a boss, thanks to this sub, and I am going to figure out a game plan for learning coding. I have recently filed bankruptcy, but I have made the decision to change my direction in life. I am trying to cut out things that don't equal self-improvement, and that includes a lot of things, but this sub motivates me to focus on the important stuff and I always come back to find out what other people are doing and to share wisdom. Good stuff.
If you're good at sitting your ass down and studying I suggest finding a college style book in either C# or Java (You can download a lot for free) and just start reading every page and doing what is told in the book. Another option, though less recommended is to think of a program that might benefit you, someone else or a local organization and look for the information for what you need. For example: need a user database? google how, need to calculate totals/averages/means? google it.
[–]Skank_of_America0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Any very specific recommendations? I was thinking about 'Learn Python the Hard Way'. Not really college-textbook, but the formatting is good. I'm ready to blitz through learning it, but I need to know where to point my gun. The other problem I have is what to even focus on, once you are learning it. I don't really have anything specific in mind that I would like to do, at least at this point, so I'm at a loss for what how to hone the skills I would be developing, for the most part. I will try to find local clubs and such though.
[–]nodiggity9721 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Phython sounds great. You really just need one language to cook your brain a bit so that all the other languages make sense. Some things in programming are borderline philosophical at times so it requires a lot of concentration. Oh, also search on YouTube CS50, it's a series of great Harvard lectures on the subject of computer science. Hell, watch all of em.
[–]ToshiroOzuwara0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Check out Code Academy. And learn to handle a Linux machine somewhat competently.
[–]Ninja-51 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Python's where it's at. It's the simplest and most intuitive IMO, and they have bindings for all the major libraries in other languages, so it's all you need for most projects. Just learn the basics, and then as you come up with stuff to do with it, just learn libraries designed for those tasks.
[–]jimmyjoejimbob1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
38 years old. University educated in IT and Business. I work for an international cosmetics company where I am the interface between the senior management & marketing/sales and the distribution/warehouse part of the business. I get to wear what I want to work and I can dress to the weather instead of the job. I have been asked by the Managing Director to play golf which is great for a guy who wears shorts and tshirts or tracksuits to work.
I have worked corporate roles in recruitment, not for profit, specialist consultancies and marketing. I lift at least four times a week and do things with friends and family. I own property and I will be married soon.
Redpill has turned me from the guy who tries to please everyone to the guy that people listen to when stuff needs to happen. Do what works for you, these are guidelines, not set in stone rules. What works for someone else might not be applicable to your situation.
[–]ChairBorneMGTOW1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Early 40's, childless never married (but lots of STRs and 5x LTRs thus far, all of which ended). Spun some plates for a while, but got tired of the effort involved and refocused on myself.
Canadian military, senior enlisted (Company Sgt Maj) - went reserve (i.e. stopped "active duty" to translate into American), now have a high profile job in a techinical field, making low-six figures. Not 100% white, but people generally assume I'm a white dude.
Day in my life is get up at 8am (I always hated early mornings in the Army), walk from my downtown condo to my office about 15 minutes away to start at 9am. Work's done at 5pm, then either go out that evening direct from work (no commitments at home) or I'll entertain guests at my place. Spend at least 3 nights a week alone, but wish I actually had MORE alone time.
Live by myself in a luxury condo, spend my time playing D&D once a week, and drum in a jazz / funk band. Go shooting most every weekend (training to get into IPSC maybe). Don't lift as much as I should - I focus most physical time on shooting, bicycling, and X-country skiing (I used to compete in biathlon).
Generally, women in their 30s and 40s are crawling over themselves to get my attention. I refuse to date moms (won't even plate 'em), though I made an exception once. Admittedly, I'm not fashionable - being frugal and being told what to wear for 25+ years, I default to dressing like an IT guy. That's a personal shortfall I'm conscious of and striving to improve.
With my income, home, high profile job, music hobby, fitness (fit, but not swole) and zero baggage whatsoever, a lot of women I know refer to me as "the whole package..." or "the one that got away" - invariably their SMV is well below mine.
Problem is, even if I exude an Alpha vibe, I get pegged as a potential provider because of my means and circumstance - so they all want relationships. I honestly believe that I'd have more sexual success if I downsized my home and reduced my income.
[–]DOCTORxTEETH 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm probably different from most redpillers. I'm not a 30-year-old white guy that has an extra professional job. I'm in my early twenties and live like a college fraternity neither even though I never went to college. I grew up poor in the barrio and hung out with the cholos, which exposed me to real life redpill early on.
A regular weekday for me is waking up early as fuck, even though I have nowhere to go, because it's a habit I formed in high school when I was trying to get out of the habit of being late. I lift a little some, go to the park to run/talk to women, go home and eat breakfast, pick my main plate up from the community college she goes to, fuck around with her, and get ready for work. When I get back home, depending on my mood, I'll end my day, go to the gym, or hang with the boys.
Weekends though, those are strictly for fucking around. Fuck some plates or chill in the neighborhood, go to parties, maybe a strip club.
[–]Transformer61 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
29 male here , i have a steady job , single ,no kids , i guess i know many people but have a small circle of friends (like 5)i do some recreational boxing training , my coach thinks that i should compete ,also do karate ,i love the outdoors ,i have a motorcycle project working on ,riding is fun, want also to get into sailing ,,my normal day is to get up maybe 2 hours before work , do my 8 hrs come home, sometimes play some game , got a back injury so i kind of laid back on the training , trying to pick up on reading , also i enjoy solitude ,love music , but honestly i prefer to be alone most times . came here by accident i can't even remember when . we had 40k people on here , and everything just seemed to fall into place .one of the things i learned here is to put yourself first , take care of you because if you do not then who will ?
[–]TruckerJohn0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 18. From suburban CT, in college in an art school in Chicago. Just got back this week to CT. I have one month until I resume my job at a summer camp, June 13th to Aug 29th where I will be a lifeguard during the day and doing oddjobs/playing with kids at night. I've never been a lifeguard before so a large chunk of now-6/13 is going to be swimming instead of my normal workouts.
Typical day? Up at 8AM. Short workout, ice shower, free write. 1 hour walk with a book (usually philosophy, history, psychology, or science. Occasionally a novel or some theatre). Come home, make breakfast (caveman coffee with butter and whey protein, green shake, supplements). This month my big projects are: getting better at swimming, finishing up training for a Spartan Race in the first week of June, working on writing 5-10 new minutes of standup material, getting the hang of podcasting, writing some scripts for sketch comedy videos I'll be producing next semester, and my hearing-disabled Mom is gonna teach me how to lip-read, according to her.
I usually take an hour or two off to just fuck around and sing. I love music, but I had to get rid of my instruments after semester cause of no room in shipping box, so I'm just practicing vocals for now. I am a decent self-taught pianist, and am working on guitar slowly but surely. In college I max out my credits, with about 20 hours of class a week, 10 of homework. THat is divided this month into extra workout time, the longer walk+read, some free time, and extra comedy writing time.
As far as performing, I took the last 5 months off from standup. (Started when I was 16, so I have a year and a half then a 5 month hiatus). I'm getting back into it this month and hope to perform once a week minimum.
I hang with friends maybe 3 or so nights a week. Wish it was more, but I gotta get work done before Camp starts. I also enjoy mountain biking and cooking, and for this month I'm gonna help out my old high school's soccer team in their training every Sunday night.
[–]HK_TRP1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Throwaway account because personal information. I'm late 30s, white, single, with no debts or children.
I left my home country ten years ago to work overseas. After a six year stint in Europe I moved to Asia where I've now been for three years. This place is enjoyably free of the bullshit that passes for society in the west these days. There's no fat acceptance, no angry feminism, no tumblr bullshit. No high taxes or government coddling. Folks are enterprising, self-reliant, and independent.
I work in finance technology, earning good money and paying little tax. I funnel my cash away from paper nonsense and into tangible assets, such as metals, property in high-growth regions, and collectible, investment-grade whisky. I believe that the current financial system of endless debt-driven pseudo-growth cannot last and that a reset is eventually coming; few of my investments are in western countries.
I live by myself in a small but modern and clean apartment about 20mins on foot from the city centre. Domestic help is cheap here so I do none of my own housework or ironing. My neighbourhood is full of western bars and restaurants, so I spend a lot of time out. I'm a big cocktail drinker and have good relationships with at least a dozen bartenders around town; excellent for demonstrating value/preselection, but mostly I just really enjoy well-made drinks.
I'd love to lift in the morning before work, but I feel weak at that time of day and every time I've tried it my performance has sucked, even if it does make me feel good the rest of the day. As it stands I get up around 7:30 and get to work at 8:45 after a 30-minute journey on subway & foot. I work until 18:30, then eat at a local bar or occasionally cook at home. On gym days I tend to go later to avoid the crowds, then eat afterward and get to bed around 23:00.
What's missing? I don't feel I get enough time to read, though that will come through better time management. I'm also not travelling as much as I'd like, especially given the destinations that I've got at my fingertips. It's easy to make friends here but more difficult to form good friendships like I had back home. Finance is a lucrative but boring sector and I'd like to move back into dot com when the opportunity presents itself. Endless politics, cost-cutting, stifling regulation and bureaucracy are the reasons I'd advise anyone against banking in this day and age. Identify a more enjoyable sector and shoot for that instead.
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