Women using emotion as a weapon in arguments.

whatsazipper · 2014-07-22T00:35:41+00:00

When I was young and stupid I didn't think emotions could be weaponized and used to gain power in relationships (and consequently, kill attraction for falling for the trap).

Now it's amusing. There is no depth to their emotions. Watch them go from crying to rage in a split second once their ruse doesn't work on you.

Never go along with their emotional bait regardless of what other people suggest. You're above that now. You'll only be confirmed with each occurrence and corresponding success.

colombianguy · 2014-07-22T14:41:03+00:00

Bill Burr - How Women Argue

mordanus · 2014-07-21T23:57:54+00:00

I got quoted on jezebel almost a year ago for talking about the same thing. My wife used to cry every time we had an argument so that I would surrender. I fucking hated it so I eventually told her that if she was going to cry she can get out of my sight and have the discussion when she grown up enough to do it without weeping. She stopped crying immediately. No more crying arguments after that.

2014-07-22T00:04:59+00:00

Call her out on her fake emotions. Show that you aren't fazed by it and watch her snap out of it in the blink of an eye.

kizzan · 2014-07-21T22:33:01+00:00

Whenever women do that I tell them to stop with the crocodile tears (and I am sure to explain what that means before any argument). It seems to work well for me.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_tears

Doomsday_ · 2014-07-22T04:16:18+00:00

Would you argue with a child? Women are like children: never argue with with them. Either lay down the law, or refuse to debate the issue. Arguing will get you nowhere.

Modified_Hackware · 2014-07-22T01:18:29+00:00

Agree and amplify.

"She's crying! I must be wrong because she's now crying."

Then just walk off.

Atavisionary · 2014-07-22T13:50:44+00:00

Sounds like you came into contact with a common scold. They used to be more forceful in punishing women who engaged in that shit. I wish they would bring it back.

‘There stands, my friend, in yonder pool,

An engine call’d a ducking stool:

By legal pow’r commanded down,

The joy and terror of the town,

If jarring females kindle strife,

Give language foul, or lug the coif;

If noisy dames should once begin

To drive the house with horrid din,

Away, you cry, you’ll grace the stool,

We’ll teach you how your tongue to rule.

The fair offender fills the seat,

In sullen pomp, profoundly great.

Down in the deep the stool descends,

But here, at first, we miss our ends;

She mounts again, and rages more

Than ever vixen did before.

So, throwing water on the fire

Will make it but burn up the higher.

If so, my friend, pray let her take

A second turn into the lake,

And rather than your patience lose,

Thrice and again repeat the dose.

No brawling wives, no furious wenches,

No fire so hot but water quenches

In Prior’s skilful lines we see

For these another recipe:

A certain lady we are told,

(A lady, too, and yet a scold)

Was very much reliev’d, you’ll say,

By water, yet a different way;

A mouthful of the same she’d take,

Sure not to scold, if not to speak.

Benjamin West – 1780

2014-07-22T09:46:28+00:00

I don't mind it, women use the tools they have, men use the tools they have. What do paper alpha wannabe losers to? They think being loud as fuck, posturing, or using bigass words (often incorrectly) makes them right or more valid.

It is the same. When men do that shit, I just laugh and tell them when they want to talk about the actual issue at hand and quit the theatrics, we can talk. When women do that, I don't judge the sign of weakness, I just accept it for what it is (and I don't even try to make her understand why it is weak). I laugh and say 'you know, you're actually kinda cute when you get all flustered."

If its a work context where I'm not trying to say anything of that nature I just smile and say "Why don't you come back in a few minutes and be a professional. I'll forget about what you've been saying if you can just get yourself together right now."

Ultimately what it boils down to is communicating that you will not take the bait and fight feels with reels. Reels loses to feels in arguments with women - especially because she WILL win over the crowd unless she is way the fuck out of line. She has to be far more "out of line" than you do to "lose the crowd." Communicate that you won't take the bait and she cuts it out.

Stop pushing harder to penetrate their feels with logic. If anything, just keep amplifying her emotions by not taking her seriously - just escalate those emotions and let them boil over and settle. There is a reason why lolumad is so effective in video games - it makes people fucking MAD, then they realize how pathetic and useless their emotions are, because your madness just makes the opponent laugh.

If I cannot get them to back off and just take a time out, and I cannot walk away, I just let them explode. Get creative, make it fun. "Did you know that your cheeks turn a little pink - not red, just a little rosy like a cute little elf - when you get mad? I wonder if you get really mad will they go red... oh there it is! Wait is that a blush or is that anger?"

Emotions transmute into other emotions incredibly easily. I have had many, many instances of raging mad - like rhino who got his foot runover by a SUV mad - women just bursting out into giggles and smiling despite themselves because I kept it fun and kept amplifying her emotions until their ridiculousness because evident to everyone, including her. Just protect your face and ride it out.

COVERartistLOL · 2014-07-22T02:56:38+00:00

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trplurker · 2014-07-21T23:46:36+00:00

I just laugh in their face, loudly, whenever they do that. Women will always resort to an emotional attack when on the defensive, it's their natural weapon.

kick6 · 2014-07-22T15:32:11+00:00

Both sexes learn VERY early that tears get you what you want. I've seen kids as young as 3 start bawling, and pause to see if anyone is paying attention.

The difference: we eventually start telling boys to quit being a baby, and deal with problems like a man.

slcjosh · 2014-07-22T15:42:34+00:00

The feels are a lot harder to argue with then logic. Im not saying all women lack logic, but when you get into a heated debate with a woman, it almost always always turns into some kind of personal anecdote with no evidence. Its almost always fallacy based on pure emotion.

I had a debate recently with a good friend (hes beta-max 5000 but i still love the guy) and his girlfriend about how we are living in a society that is perpetuating being a victim. She went on a tangent about how she knows girls who have to wear spandex under their dresses so they dont get their vaginas and asses groped as much when they go out, and how its societies fault that women get groped. Of course I agree women shouldnt be groped but I disagreed with her reasoning that it was societies fault. I explained that a woman has a lot more power over things like this than she claimed to have. I was immediately chastised for blaming the victim and being a misogynist.

By explaining that trying to teach men not to be gropers/rapists is the same logic as teaching murderers they shouldn't murder, and drug addicts they shouldn't do drugs etc I am automaticaly labeled a woman hater...ok, because that is totally logical. The people who do that shit are simply scum. Teach scum not to be scum is not the answer. Being more situationally aware, and staying away from places where that is likely to happen is much safer and logical conclusion labeled me with them a misogynist. Fine. I cant argue with the feels. Only logic.

PaulRivers10 · 2014-07-22T17:18:30+00:00

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2014-07-22T17:21:48+00:00

The best way to win an argument is to avoid it.

vandaalen · 2014-07-22T10:22:54+00:00

Why do you even argue with a woman?

Nothing to gain there.
You won't find new insights
She will never let go and say you are right while you are argueing.
Argueing creates drama. The hamster loves drama.
You are validating her childish behaviour by giving her attention. Result: More drama and argueing overall.
If you "make her cry" her hamster is fueled and will help her believe that everything is your fault because you are an asshole and she'll be able to justify her drama causing to herself and her friends.
If in public the Brotherhood if Whiteknighting will eventually ride in.
You are more likely to loose frame the longer the argument lasts.

Instead do what you should do: Treat her like a child she is. Briefly explain where she is wrong. Outlogic her, but keep it short. Don't bother with any shit her hamster will inevitably come up with as counter-"arguements". If the drama kicks in just leave and tell her to contact you once she is at a clearer state of mind again. Ignore any texts or calls for at least the next one or two days though. Expand this period proportional to the amount of drama she created. Act as uf nothing happened then and never bring the topic up again.

x3oo · 2014-07-22T07:29:09+00:00

I next every girl that does this AND i make sure that every girl and her mom knows beforehand. All my female friends know that i don't tolerate irrational arguments.

2014-07-22T12:56:02+00:00

I dated a girl like this back in highschool and broke up with her, that was the last relationship I was in. I look all around me and see my friends date women like this and get stepped on all the time. I tried helping them and threw my 2 cents in but they didn't listen so now everytime I see them going through the bullshit it just makes me appreciate my situation even more. Ill talk to women but a relationship is out of the question. Too many bat shit crazy women out there.

MajorStyles · 2014-07-22T07:00:12+00:00

I remember calling an ex to task about why she cheated on her ex-husband, but did not seem sorry for it. I followed that by telling her that my trust in her was suspect.

Good lord, she went Linda Blair on me. I thought I was going to have to call an ambulance. I dropped the subject for fear that her head might explode. It's really equivalent to a temper tantrum by a four year old.

And this type of shit dominates American public discourse. A woman's righteous indignation is now a substitute for democratic debate.

anonlymouse · 2014-07-22T09:28:10+00:00

I do the same, depending on the girl. If she gets upset easily and can't handle conflict in general, doesn't seek it out and tries to avoid it, I'll let up if she gets upset. If on the other hand she engages first and then gets upset when it doesn't go her way, I ignore her emotions.

Drogoe · 2014-07-22T23:48:50+00:00

The ultimate use of this tactic i've ever encountered was when i cornered my girlfriend (now ex) on a massive lie and she responded by telling me she was raped by her uncle repeatedly when she was 12-14. the two points were unrelated but it was the ultimate pity ploy to distract me from what had just gone down in our argument.

it was true- and it was real rape. very messy situation. she has my extreme sympathy for what happened, not so much for the way she deployed it as a weapon.

Title	Women using emotion as a weapon in arguments.
Author	The_BitterTruth
Upvotes	59
Comments	63
Date	July 21, 2014 10:25 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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