Can we talk about lifting?

redbluepilling · 2014-05-13T20:14:00+00:00

Most people should start off with a novice strength training program (you can't beat the actual Starting Strength book and level of detail on form and mechanics). Knowing exactly what the fuck you're going to do is key imho. People say, "just do it! just get in there!" Fuck that. I hate people floundering in the gym, and they hate it too, getting all discouraged. Study up first until you're ready, bring a small notebook, track your lifts, know what you're going to lift and how.

Diet? IIFYM. Anything more extreme like paleo or keto is fine if it works for you, but, IIFYM will get the job done. I personally find any highly restrictive diet to be fucking annoying and impossible to maintain in the long run, not developing the proper habits of calorie control to function in normal society.

I'm on a lean bulk, more or less maintaining weight, simultaneously building muscle and burning fat. Basically, not eating significantly more calories than what I burn plus eating heaps of protein for the largest fraction. For me, I don't bulk/cut, because bulking leads to dirty bulking which leads to being a lardass.

-edit- /r/bodybuilding (bro-dybuilding), /r/weightroom (big fan, well moderated. no tolerance for bullshit), and /r/fitness (if you want some toilet reading while you're cleansing your vagina). Sidebars.

wttr · 2014-05-13T19:57:19+00:00

Is this like a no girls allowed thing? I would like some views on taking your wife/LTR to the gym with you. I've been doing it. It hasn't been an easy process.

triglyceridesuicide · 2014-05-13T22:25:12+00:00

You need to know your BMR and TDEE and aim to eat less than that amount. Exercise in all forms can buy you some wiggle room as far as having another meal, but really it's calories in-calories out. 10-15% defecit of your TDEE is a normal goal for a cut, where a 20-25% is a bit more extreme but will produce results faster. When I'm on a cut my workout doesn't change. Doesn't have to. And try and drink about a gallon of water a day.

Epicureanist · 2014-05-14T01:36:33+00:00

5'7, 146lbs @ 16% bodyfat

I'm cutting weight until I'm at 8-9% (full sixpack with ab veins). I'm guessing this'll be at 133-135lbs. At this point I'll lean bulk (gain 2lbs/month) for the next two years until I reach my goal weight of 170lbs @ 10-12%.

Nutrition:

I'm cutting weight using Leangains (Martin Berhan's dietary philosophy) and weightlifting with RPT (a 3 day strength routine recommended by Berkhan). Leangains is a combination of macrocycling and intermittent faster (useful to control hunger and track foods). Currently losing 1lb/week so my cut should take about 12 weeks.

Workout Day (200g protein/200g carbs/32g fat)

Rest Day (150g protein/30g carbs/40g fat)

Today's a rest day and I ended up getting, 1300kcalwith macros of (220g protein, 30g carbs, 32g fat).

Current Lifts:

Bench: 155x1

Squat: 225x1

Deadlift: 305x1

Goals(Late July): 135lbs

B 165x6, S 225x5, D 315x4

Yes I'm actually hoping to get stronger on my cut. From the results of the past 3-4 weeks, it seems like this is very possible.

TankVet · 2014-05-14T01:53:19+00:00

I spend a pretty good portion of my life working on nutrition and shit for various species. So I want to say this: unless you're a really top-flight athlete or a SERIOUS bodybuilder, the best thing you can to do to control your weight is count calories. Not points or paleo or kerogen if whatever, just calories.

Also remember this: Working out is supposed to cause pain, it's controlled injury in order to fool your body into thinking it needs more muscles and such. It is absolutely supposed to hurt. You make your body hurt and it makes itself stronger so you can't hurt it so easily.

joshsoowong · 2014-05-13T20:21:37+00:00

I started out with 2 workout buddies. I stayed with them for a whole year. After that I just dropped them and went by myself.

People have different ways/reasons to go to the gym. Find out what works best for you and start putting in hard work.

raceAround126 · 2014-05-13T21:10:36+00:00

I'm extremely amateur. I'm relying on youtube to study form. I practice at home with a broom handle and a mirror and when I get to the gym hit it from there.

The only gym in my area with gear is pretty good, but the personal trainers are 16 year old dropouts who know fuck all about anything and charge a shitload. I don't have gym buddies sadly. So I'm stuck with that.

I've had the Starting Strength book mentioned way too many times to ignore it, so I think I'll order it too.

PlantNutrient · 2014-05-13T22:28:21+00:00

It isn't complicated, there isn't a TON you can do to be elite. Lifting strength comes with time and dedication.

If you have good form, lift almost every day, and eat a good amount of food, you will get strong as hell with time.

You can couple this with a healthy diet to cut body fat while still gaining muscle but that's a whole new layer

[deleted] · 2014-05-14T00:51:44+00:00

I was just thinking earlier that when you really push yourself hard, or if you have a buddy to force you to do those 3 extra reps, it sometimes feels like dying. It feels good, like your old faggot whiny lazy sexless self is the one dying, and a new you is being born.

friestogo · 2014-05-14T02:02:42+00:00

Started a cut a couple of weeks ago. When I was bulking I'd eat 3000-35000 calories a day. Now I eat between 1800-2200. Cut out a lot of the carbs (rice and pasta mostly) and still eat a lot of protein (chicken, tuna, eggs).

My workouts have also changed a little - I do less isolation and focus on the core compound movements. It's working for me so far but it's been a little difficult adjusting from eating so much to eating so little. I may eat a little more and just do more cardio.

DabLord · 2014-05-14T02:32:07+00:00

For getting cut up I highly recommend UFC Fit a MMA style cardio and light weight training program.

Title	Can we talk about lifting?
Author	BalloonAnimalCock
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Date	May 13, 2014 7:43 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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