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[–]princepeanutbutter 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It can warrant a hard next, sure. Thing with these ex issues is, you never know, and really anything outside ignoring/blocking him is not acceptable. She gets brownie points for telling you but even that could have been a shit test.
She didn't do anything off the charts wrong but I've been in enough of these situations that I'd have given up after four months.
The most important thing is you don't handle it like a bitch, like don't throw a tantrum just matter of factly get her out of your house. The most you can do now is soft next with demotion to plate, this big of a fight 4 months in has doomed the relationship and you already made your choice.
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[–]princepeanutbutter 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
knee-jerk
Well it is and it isn't. I mean you have your standards. You made your choice and it's important not to waffle, make it right, go with it. Remember your gut is probably playing a part here too, even if you don't realize it.
Every time I've unnexted a chick after something like this, the same issue has come back to bite me in the ass. Your gut knows, and it made the call here.
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[–]princepeanutbutter 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Last one was that she hadn't even talked to other guys since we met. Then on her Facebook apparently some guy gave her a gift, they call eachother bro and sis and apparently it's plutonic but it's a lie nonetheless this guy gave her a CD. And just the rapid fire chat they're having and at that time she was ignoring me.
I thought I overreacted and took her back, never even mentioned why I dumped her. She ends up being a constant liar, the kind that offers up lies even when the question isn't asked. Just like the first time where I never asked if she'd been exclusive we had just started dating.
[–]Coolbeans024ptf5 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It doesn't really matter, what you communicated loud and clear is that you have zero tolerance for bullshit and you are more than willing to next her. It makes you off the charts attractive, she will make herself with available for you anytime for years to come and if you allow her back she will give you vip treatment for a long time. Or she is now your alpha widow.
[–]1oldredder 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
depends on your risk tolerance. My prior experience is a girl contacting her ex IS having sex with him or plans to. Always.
[–]princepeanutbutter 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a lie. Shit talking prior sex is always compensating for something, usually trying to diminish n count like this case.
[–]Ricardo2991 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Hard next or demotion to plate status.
From my experience, if a woman is lying about contact with a guy, she is hiding a lot more than something "mundane".
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[–]fakefalse 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This compounds it. To explain yourself is to accuse yourself.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
everybody lies multiple times a day to you including your own mother so if your trying to find someone who will never lie to you, forget relationships and just plate. "i didn't reply" can to her mean I didn't engage him in a convo, i said something, but it was just to shut him down so it doesn't really matter - in which case she would be correct.
you should have checked to see if she was being legit. if she was being legit, you can see into her true nature. if it's good, great. if not, fuck her. you blew it here by passing up that opportunity.
girls who are fucking around on you aren't treating you well. it's never just cheating as the red flag, it's several before that. she's not gaslighting you here.
[–]AtlRP 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
forget relationships and just plate.
OP, you should seriously consider this. Your post is part of the reason we say an LTR is the red pill on "hard mode."
[–]abdada 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I never judge a non-marital relationship on their habits outside of how she treats me every time.
Every girlfriend is still a plate. If she manages my needs 100%, she can have 50 Chads on the side and I don't care. If she fails me, she's out even if she's truly monogamous.
I'll replace someone who fails me in less than an hour.
How is she handling your needs? Is she failing you and you're looking for a reason to next her?
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[–]abdada 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I don't ask for the truth from anyone. I expect humans to lie.
I expect people to invest in me today to earn my rewards tomorrow. That's my metric of if I should next someone or not.
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[–]abdada 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I don't offer my monogamy to anyone. I don't ask what a girlfriend or plate does when she's not with me.
I assume my LTR is monogamous but I don't inquire. She treats me like a king, comes over 100% of the time I invite her, doesn't give me drama or nagging. Cooks and cleans and bangs and chills without question.
Who cares if she has ten other dudes? Why would I care? I don't invest, I reward.
[–]RedCrotch 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Man I really needed to hear this. I couldn't wrap my mind how to allow someone I ->rly<- had feels for having sex with someone else so we split but she thinks it's temporary but I've been back in forth. She's a good hoe, but I was taking her nature personally.
[–]abdada 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've gotten jealous twinges before. It's normal if contained. Whenever they happened I saw it as a reflection on me slacking to constantly be making my life and future better.
If I have time to focus on worrying about a dame, that's time wasted focusing on the gym, or on income, or on promoting myself. Or on gaming new women.
Every minute is precious.
[–]RedCrotch 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly this, she was my whole world and I had nothing going for me at the time. I've come a huge way these past MONTH thanks to posts like yours.
[–]fluviant 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There's a line to be drawn between being aloof and being cucked.
[–]abdada 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
being cucked
You're aware that being cucked is basically defined as openly stealing commitment from one man who knows you're getting fucked by another, right?
I don't invest in women. I reward their investment. I can't be cucked, it's not feasible. It's actually impossible.
If my needs are met at no cost to me, I can't be cucked.
If my needs are not met, I don't reward -- I find those needs met from someone else.
[–]fluviant 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't invest in women.
The context here is an LTR. Are you going to argue that you don't or wouldn't invest in an LTR?
[–]abdada 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have an LTR. I've had an LTR for 25 years of dating. When I dump one LTR, I upgrade a great plate tomorrow. I love LTR.
But I don't invest, not even in an LTR. My current LTR was a plate 6 years ago and she patiently invested in me for many years before I canned the LTR before her for dropping her investment in me (for valid and acceptable reasons, we parted as good friends).
If my current LTR loses the drive to invest in me, she knows the plan. I part as friends, let her find a guy she wants to invest in. I'll find a new LTR tomorrow, someone who wants to invest in me.
[–]youcantdenythat 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm not sure I understand how she lied? She said in the morning she didn't reply. But later on she did reply? How is that lying?
[–]youcantdenythat 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah. Well like abdada, I also expect people to lie and don't care too much when they do. But you need to decide for yourself what your boundaries are. There might be a girl out there that doesn't lie, but I've found very few of them.
Also, I don't want to spend my life worrying if she is lying or not. If I catch her in a big enough lie, yeah, she's out. But I'm not going to go out of my way to look for lies. Its too much trouble. It's just easier not to trust them too much.
[–]blacwidonsfw 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would not tolerate a lie. No matter how innocent her response was, she purposely deceived you and that's a slippery slope. Move on.
[–]fluviant 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You need to read up on LTR Game. With LTRs, you need to be the authoritarian, not the laid-back Lothario.
You overreacted, but it's better to be too bold than not enough. Your issue here is that you are operating on covert contracts. You need to establish hard and fast rules -- delete/block all male contacts in her phone who aren't regular work/professional acquaintances.
[–]theultmatecad 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I like this idea of LTR game requiring more authority and plate game needing more IDGAF.
I play both concurrently and didn't even realize I was doing this.
I sense a post coming to explore this further..ty
[–]fluviant 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I operate in an almost Pavlovian way -- laid-back Lothario until a line is crossed. Should that happen, the foot is put down. I show her that it's in her best interest to not test me.
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