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[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This isn't about being shirtless, or the HB9, or "day-game" - these problems arise from you being uncomfortable in your own skin. Do some crazy shit. Have fun. Forget about yourself, focus on things around you/outside of yourself.
[–]4thepill0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely some sound advice that I try to follow constantly. But once I set and expectation/ goal for myself in my head it's haunts me like the plague. She's there right now, but I'm not about to hang by the pool in jeans and a T.
[–]herpes_delivery_man 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
go see a dermatologist.
[–]4thepill1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have no idea how to take a picture of my back (I just tried), or how to post photos on here.
[–]ponkyol1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
use a mirror or self timer.
[–]ilovemagicmush 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Your life is full of excuses, just reading your replies to comments in these threads, every single one has a "yes, but [obstacle]" - despite the fact that the obstacle can be EASILY overcome. Nobody is going to hold your hand. No amount of hanging out of r/asktrp is going to magically make her number appear in your hands.
YOU have to do the work. And if you'd rather sit at the computer and jerk off to the thought of going up to her and talking to her, then you don't actually want to do it.
Either do it or go find something else to do and stop wasting your time thinking about talking to her.
[–]4thepill0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is probably the most sound advise. Although (but), it's not really her that's my intended focus, it the fact that my skin sucks, I was hoping someone would have some TRP tips along this end (someone did point out /r/skincareaddiction which I'll have to explore).
[–]NexusReflexX2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
at trp, the tip is to get the fuck over it. it's harsh and blunt, but it's the truth. I guarantee the bacne is seen the most by you. other people would see it and go "hmm okay" and that's the end of it
True
[–]bornredd1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The only way past this is to try going shirtless and get used to it OR to find a way to cure your bacne.
Just go without a shirt when she's not around and BE OBJECTIVE about how people react. You'll probably find it isn't that big of a deal, even if it is inside your head.
It probably is mostly inside my head. Cheers
[–]CanadaTRP1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
18 months of my life was plagued with the insecurity and lack of confidence that arose out of face acne and scars, and I am finally over that dreaded phase of my life through a sound routine and the healing power of time. It was actually the primary cause of me turning beta in my 5 year LTR(im 23), and the subsequent breakup that led me to TRP. As far as my back goes what worked for me was an olive and coconut oil based soap with natural plant extracts from a local supplier. Although I've never had significant bacne, compared to my past self with face acne so this may not full cure you if you have a notable problem.
In my experience, if you have a good looking face and confident demeanor, any drawbacks such as the occasional social faux pas' or minor physical downsides (i have several scars, and a weird one on my nose), are overlooked if there are enough positive qualities. It sounds cliche but it is the truth, if you have enough positive, masculine qualities and personality, a couple of negative physical qualities will basically be forgiven by most quality woman. Bacne won't be a problem unless it impacts your personality (ie. you start walking weird to avoid having your back face her).
Sounds like I'm experiencing the same thing (23 also). My bacne leads me to never want to take of my shirt in acceptable settings (i.e. Pool, beach, etc.), while some other personal issues caused me to turn into a complete beta for the last 4 years. I'll probably just wait till I run into her again to spark a convo, then I'm sure my lesser qualities will be forgiven, but it's just she was right there for an extended period of time, and my bacne held me back yet again.
I appreciate the advice I'll try to find a soap similar to what you have mentioned!
Let's see it.
[–]SovereignWings 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
/r/skincare addiction and learning to accept what you cannot change. My wrists are 6". I look scrawny as fuck, though lifting is slowly improving that situation.
I actually GAIN quite a bit of confidence in any situation where I can take my shirt off. Hot dance clubs make it easy. Clothes on I look like a skinny nerd, clothes off girls can see my abs and muscle.
[–]4thepill0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That sub is private. I don't have many qualms about how I look. Correct me if I'm wrong, but bacne is treatable, so as long as I can fix it, it will bother me.
[–]SovereignWings 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's /r/skincareaddiction
If it is changeable, you still have to go through the mental work necessary to accept yourself while you are in the process of fixing it. Such that it is not an anchor to weigh you down. I need to gain 30lbs of muscle, and drop 7-8% bf.. but I don't beat myself up over it every day. I just go to the gym, eat my food, do my job, and then say to myself "did what I could" whenever I have doubts about not being ripped enough.
[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear2220 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"But I just can't do it"
Yes you can. You don't think about if you can do it, because by that time you're already walking up to to talk to them with your shirt off.
Stop psyching yourself out and GO
[–]tridentmark0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Im not sure asktrp is for dermatology questions.
Valid point, just figured with 26 k subscribers someone was bound to have a similar experience.
[–]1oldredder0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
not likely. Most people have the sense to get medical treatment instead of insisting on powering through it with bravado.
My insurance is all messed up from the move, but I'm going to have to get that figured out and see a Dermo ASAP I guess...
I ran into her yesterday when we were in the elevator and didn't say a word (my day game is non existent), once we got to the bottom floor she gave me "the flat smile" (similar to -__-), but with more pleasant eye contact (even though I was wearing sun glasses).
you're done. You showed mental weakness. You literally told her with your face you're not good enough for her.
I would go up and initiate conversation, but I just can't do it with my shirt off
You can but it's already too late because of what happened before.
but I have acne on my chest and back that kills my confidence.
Then you need to invest in the proper creams, change of diet and ensuring you shower enough times to keep the skin clean enough to avoid any additional source of infection. If that means 3 showers a day that's what it means. If it means steroid cream that's what it means.
I don't agree with the first comment, I think I easily still have a shot, I don't know her I don't have to talk to her. I smiled back and went about my day. Plus I had sunglasses on, so she didn't actually make eye contact. I'll give her a compliment, easy convo starter, next time I see her and go from there.
The second comment is subjective.
As for the last, believe me, I'm doing everything I can. I'll just have to get my insurance situation figured out after the move, and go see a dermo.
[–]deci-mator0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Your are not confident in yourself. It's not like your the only human being on the face of the earth with acne on your chest and back. You think that your not good enough and that your some hideous monster who repels away pussy. IF you do not point out your flaws, no one will notice them. So why are you stressing, you know that you want to approach and you do not want to wait till your acne is cleared up, so do it. Approach. I personally have acne all over my face, it's reduced now. I do not put anything on my skin because I dont give a fuck whether its there or not (unless there's a new outbreak, man has to clear that shit up). I learnt to accept it and live with it, it will go when it goes. At least you, no one can see it with your shirt on, mine, whatever you put on, it will be seen. Ever since I swallowed the redpill, never have I once been afraid to approach because of my acne, even before I swallowed it (as a PUA). I could still make the effort. IF I can why can't you. No girl has ever been disgusted by me. Because I own it, I accept that is there, just like how we have eyes, noses and tongues. I just accept that it is there and let it be, never has it hindered my success.
Your absolutely right, I need to find a way to get over it. Not only that, but being by the pool would even help it, since it goes away when I'm tan... Respect man, you have bigger balls then me.
[–]deci-mator0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know exactly how you feel. When I was younger I hit puberty faster than everyone else; there's nothing anyone can say now about my acne that no one else hasn't yet said. Back then there's no way I could approach, after what everyone said, I was a little bitch and very self-conscious
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