Has "seeing the matrix" made you cynical?

redpillbanana · 2016-04-23T14:19:23+00:00

If these things that could be considered cynical:

Skepticism of other people's motives
Realizing that everyone has been trying to deceive you for your entire life (except for a select few) and continues to try to do so
Realizing that most people will react to the truth with hatred and scorn
Realizing that nature and the sexual marketplace is amoral
Realizing that feminism is just a power grab by women
Realizing that women are not wonderful; women (and men) are just using hundred-thousand-year-old animal instincts to get what they want
Realizing that the world is not fair and the winner is not always a nice person, just a person who did what it takes to win
Realizing that in the sexual marketplace, all forms of bigotry and discrimination are fair game. Don't want to hire minorities? That's against the law. Don't want to date them? That's fine.
Knowing that you're ultimately on your own and, as a man, people will view your failures with disdain and contempt rather than support and encouragement
Knowing that society considers you as disposable
Using all of the above knowledge to make the world unfair in your favor

...then yes, I'm cynical, and I wouldn't want to overcome it.

Whisper · 2016-04-23T18:24:17+00:00

Cynic is a word an optimist uses when he means "realist".

The world hasn't suddenly become bad. The world isn't bad. The world was always this way.

The only thing that was wrong were your expectations.

Thewelshpill · 2016-04-23T14:35:26+00:00

I'm cyncial by other peoples standards, but they can't handle cold truth.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2016-04-23T15:30:42+00:00

That's the bluepill in you, dying.

The Matrix is, for our purposes, neither good nor bad; it simply is. How you cope with that is up to you.

abdada · 2016-04-23T13:02:43+00:00

I'm not sure why anyone would become a cynic once swallowing the red pill and internalizing and applying the truths.

If anything, it should make you feel powerful.

BioSamPijanac · 2016-04-23T13:07:44+00:00

I feel enlightened as if a blindfold has been removed. I don't resent this truth, I embrace it as my future path is in my hands alone.

Docbear64 · 2016-04-23T14:39:49+00:00

It has the only place I think it's damaging is in the areas of female friendship though... I never realized how little they regarded me and how I am a constant source of validation for them . It's sickening honestly and now makes me want to no contact every woman whose not a sibling.

It's crazy too because i used to believe I had true female friendship but upon closer insection none of them have asked how I am for weeks.

cheeky--kunt · 2016-04-23T14:03:05+00:00

It's an elephant in the room only if you make it one.

I'm more cynical to spending time for things that I don't want, because others want me to. I learned to say NO.

I have more time for myself and thus to do things that make ME happy (lifting, learning guitar, hiking, cooking)

bruh_my_jays · 2016-04-23T19:20:29+00:00

Nope, I was a cynic before TRP. The only difference now is that I'm a self-righteous cynic.

Draki1903 · 2016-04-23T15:13:42+00:00

It made me more cynical and observant of things that I've witnessed around me, but on the outside I'm still the jovial guy that doesn't try to upset the social order.

Think for yourself, act like the others.

marianasentmenudes · 2016-04-23T15:25:42+00:00

And the truth shall set you free

Nothing_Gazes_Back · 2016-04-23T17:49:10+00:00

Cynical? No, I don't think so, but I'm definitely a lot more light-hearted than the average TRPer.

But I am definitely jaded. The whole hookup and dating scene has lost its mystery and with it the excitement and appeal.

thor_away92 · 2016-04-23T19:21:07+00:00

The world and most of it's inhabitants are shitty.

That's why I love dogs.

It's not cynical in my mind. You could view it as such but it's reality.

But my world is great and so are the people in it so overall life is positive.

If everyone and everything sucked that's cynical.

HearTheRaven · 2016-04-23T16:25:12+00:00

When the blindfold first comes off, everyone appears to be evil, calculating, manipulative, or just a plain old-fashioned imbecile.

Was I more cynical initially? Absolutely. But fast forward a year from removing the blindfold and calming down from the initial shock.

Most people aren't idiots. They bought into the same lies I did, are far more invested than I am due to their age, and are probably not capable of removing the blinders.

I could be cynical, but that could just as easily have been me.
Most people completely lack self-awareness. They know how they feel in any given moment, but have never stopped to consider why they feel that way...they don't even realize that doing so is an option

We (correctly) criticize people who do everything based on feelings. But you eventually realize that these people have no inkling that there's a better way to live.

Self-awareness is an "unknown unknown" for most people...they don't even realize it exists, and are never able to pursue it. And without it, the blindfold gets tied ever tighter.

tl;dr Seeing the matrix initially made me feel extreme cynicism, but it eventually gives way to...pity, maybe? "Pity" is not the right term, but it's the closest I can come up with.

Dan-Man · 2016-04-24T00:48:50+00:00

Hell yes

rptastic · 2016-04-24T01:29:41+00:00

Going back to the Matrix reference. No. If you've seen the movies; the point where Neo can start to see the code of the Matrix, see into it, and then alter how the world work - that's how I feel now.

To make another analogy to the movie; I always had disparate ideas about how things worked. A suspicion that things were not as I was told. I wasn't completely blue pill (after my teenage years, at least). I evolved to a quasi red-pill state (purple, maybe?), but was missing something.

I was never able to put the pieces together before TRP.

Now, when I look at the world, I understand. Everything makes sense now. The equation is balanced.

Title	Has "seeing the matrix" made you cynical?
Author	BioSamPijanac
Upvotes	29
Comments	40
Date	April 23, 2016 1:02 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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