Help with understanding this.

riskrowe · 2014-06-05T00:54:46+00:00

Feminism is the mistaken belief that everything we call human nature is actually a social construct created by men to serve the best interests of men. They reach this conclusion because they take gender equality as an axiom. This means they assume that women are naturally supposed to be more like men, and that men are naturally supposed to be more like women, and without all the 'patriarchal social programming' it would even out somewhere in the middle. Based on the equality axiom, the existence of patriarchal social programming is only further supported by the current observable gender differences.

Therefore any attempt at promoting male masculinity or female femininity is seen as working towards this supposed 'female oppression'. They must promote female masculinity and male femininity to balance things out. Like all cultural marxists, they think they're fighting social programming with social programming. In truth they're fighting human nature with social programming, and that naturally annoys people, and it's an unwinnable battle.

They fancy themselves unappreciated liberators, working to free people who suffer from stockholm syndrome. They don't consider that maybe THEY are the aggressors. In their minds all the vitriol can easily be attributed to feminism's pervasive, amorphous devil - the patriarchy.

This pattern of thought reminds me of the old christian superstition that the devil is everywhere and is constantly tempting you. The belief that the natural is the unnatural is guaranteed to give you a life of anxiety and struggle. In the long term, social programming doesn't work. Making drugs illegal doesn't stop people from doing drugs. Teaching kids abstinence doesn't deter teenagers from having sex. Telling girls they shouldn't care about their looks won't make girls stop brushing their hair and wearing push-up bras. Fat women telling us they are curvy doesn't make us want to fuck them.

Oh well that's my rant for the day.

captainbloodd · 2014-06-04T22:58:17+00:00

Just like a feminist to paint something as hateful and angry. They unknowingly project their own traits onto the groups that they bash.

TRP isn't all about hate, it's all about love. They will never understand it, so therefore it must be destroyed.

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Epicureanist · 2014-06-05T02:17:58+00:00

What exactly is so horrible about that to feminists?

Women hate the idea of initially beta/low value guys becoming alpha/high value. It's very similar to girls who want guys with "natural" muscles.

[deleted] · 2014-06-05T10:08:05+00:00

In all honesty I think caring even one bit about what feminists think or feel makes you play their game and therefore lose it.

Just...whatever man.

Pushnikov · 2014-06-05T16:23:58+00:00

Feminism is a Status war. They want woman to have "more" status, at all costs.

It's not a rational or logical argument. In fact, feminism specifically attacks logic as a means to an end. Feminism is not a scientific tool, or a rational tool, it's a status tool to get a group of low status women (not all women, just the shitty ones) what they want. The equivalent of this for men is a union. Except unions make sense to men. Organized, directed, forceful, and distributing actual tangible value to people. Feminism is everything we hate about "Feminine" arguments. Non-sensical, evasive, passive aggressive, contradictory, and distributing no tangible value, only a "feels".

There is actually no evidence that directly links modern neo-feminism is directly responsible for increased and more fair conditions for women. It's brainwashing for women - and the only way you keep the men in line is to bash them.

So, it isn't about equality - or men - or sex. It's about winning a war where women's status is better, with no frame of reference, at all costs, constantly. So, anything that gives men better status than women, is inherently patriarchal. At all costs, with no frame of reference, constantly.

The poorest man trying to get up in life? Patriarchy. A young boy trying to get in bed with a girl because he wants to experience life? Patriarchy. A woman killing a man with a chainsaw, cutting his balls off, and taking his money? You go girl.

theycallme1 · 2014-06-04T22:30:24+00:00

You haven't read the side bar much have you?

Why would they want to give away the secret to their tingles? Amused mastery takes away all of their power- no one wants to deliberately give away their control/power.

Plus of course there are neckbeards abusing it and making everyone feel awkward.

[deleted] · 2014-06-05T01:16:01+00:00

They might be averse to it because it's inherently dishonest.

Kind of like the guy who pretends he wants an LTR, with kids and a house, and all he is looking for is getting laid.

It doesn't matter if you are the getting laid guy, or the commitment guy, if you are honest about that, then women won't have anything to complain about.

They still will, but don't let that bother you. I'm almost the complete package for my wife, but I imagine she wouldn't hate it if I were a bit bigger muscle wise.

HDThoreauaway · 2014-06-05T17:42:26+00:00

guys here are trying to live better lives, and improve their personal value, maybe we're a little selfish about it, but honestly? Girls dig that shit.

And none of this is what feminists mind about what goes on at TRP and similar threads. I'm sure they all think that's dandy.

It's the fact that women, as an entire gender, are routinely written off as untrustworthy, hypocritical, inferior human beings, and that baseless, negative comments are not only not called into question, but are applauded and up-voted. And feminists in particular are painted with a big, negative broad brush and written off. That's offensive to feminists.

This comment will no doubt get buried, but you don't have to take my word for it. Go and read just about any thread here or, especially, in the TRP main thread. Count how many variations you see of "women are [insert unsourced, blanket, negative statement]." Try to read those from a woman's perspective, and I think you'll see why these sites are so off-putting.

gg_s · 2014-06-05T01:26:10+00:00

Because feminists know they are low value. Male improvement instills higher standards that land feminist-class women out of the race. Simple as that.

Title	Help with understanding this.
Author	AngraMainyuu
Upvotes	18
Comments	55
Date	June 4, 2014 10:03 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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