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How much does height and build play into attractiveness?

prehistoricgz

December 3, 2017
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Title How much does height and build play into attractiveness?
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prehistoricgz

Upvotes 10
Comments 19
Date December 3, 2017 3:05 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/askTRP
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Comments

[–]brinkleybuzz9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can't control your height but have a lot of control over your build. Focus on what you can control.

[–]bostonburrito16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Build is a much bigger player than height IMO.

Manlets will make out that the fact that they are short is the biggest disadvantage they have in being attractive, but really that sort of insecurity is often just a symptom of other problems they have. I can think of 4 of my friends who are below 5'5 who have no trouble picking up, and surprise surprise, 3 of them are long time lifters. The other has a chiseled face you could grate cheese off.

[–]DevilishRogue1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Neither is more important than the other, as they are both signifiers for overall status. And whilst build does denote personal discipline in a way that height doesn't it can also been seen as compensatory if the personality doesn't match up. In other words it is how you use them rather than that you have them.

[–]Psychocist4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Interesting.. I'm 5'8, have seen some awesome noob gainz in the last 8 months and actually have a decent build now. Still want to pack on a couple more stone, but don't want to overdo it. I can maintain current physique by only going gym couple times a week.

..at the same time, I've only just started finding success with women over the past few years, and was previously forever alone. My personality doesn't match up, and perhaps it looks compensatory to some.. but who cares? I'm sure a few women have come back to my place simply because I'm in shape and physically attractive and I invited them.. they sure haven't come back for my conversational skills.

[–]DevilishRogue1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

but who cares?

Women.

they sure haven't come back for my conversational skills.

We aren't talking about conversational skills here though, we're talking about how your presence is perceived. If you seem lacking in confidence, needy or otherwise low-status then no amount of physique will be sufficient to maintain frame enough to get the result. Initial attraction is only one hurdle but there are others beyond that first hurdle that also need to be overcome and having a personality that indicates desirable traits is another.

[–]Psychocist2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women

..and why should I care about what women care about? By not caring, they are mine. By caring, they are not. Such is the irony of this game.

If you seem lacking in confidence, needy or otherwise low-status then no amount of physique will be sufficient to maintain frame enough to get the result.

Thanks for the clarification. I think I understand where you're coming from now. Though my conversational skills are lacking, I don't think I give off a vibe that I need validation or I am pussy-starved or whatever.

[–]DevilishRogue0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

..and why should I care about what women care about? By not caring, they are mine. By caring, they are not. Such is the irony of this game.

I'm talking about outcomes.

I don't think I give off a vibe that I need validation or I am pussy-starved or whatever.

That is the important thing.

[–]RedSkeller0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the truth. I'm a few heads over my buddy but he's been a consistent lifter for years and has gains for days. Last time I saw him he was wearing this big gay sweater and a tshirt - had a chick he used to bang following him around like a lost puppy all night and a random 20 year old walked up and tried to give him her snapchat. Great inspiration for us all.

[–]GreenPiller4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A lot, this is coming from a 5'7 manlet, all we can do is charm our way into the pussy.

[–]Torabor642 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude, I'm 5'7 myself, height isn't an excuse for anyone but definitively not for you or me. 5'7 isn't a manlet.

[–]GreenPiller0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its not an excuse, but we would be lying to OP is we told him that its not important.

[–]Elatea0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I must have posted in so many height threads, but I'm qualified to answer this question. NO being tall doesn't not allow you to get girls, its a nice positive and will undoubtedly come up in conversation, its really more about looks and game/charisma. Im 6,4

[–]TheRedPillMonkey2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It plays into it a little in that women always prefer taller men. You can overcome it with muscles and other things.

Taller guys have a natural advantage, but not one that's difficult for a short guy to overcome.

[–]whizkidmill 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Enough to pursue it. According to the law of marginal gains, improving in every area just by 1%, leads to a big net improvement. duh. Anything to help your gain and life in general is worth working on. Height and build are by no means the be all end all, and in the grand spectrum of attraction are quite minor. Never the less, there's a reason why weight training is praised on TRP, outside of the muscle gains alone, and it's every bit worth doing.

[–]Epictetus20171 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I think they are both important. Muscles equal attraction. A cut guy is going to pull more then a fat tall slob.

That said Women prefer tall men usually in my experience all other things being equal. (hard truths here buddy, this is TRP.)

Every single woman I have been with has commented on my size in a positive manner. (6 foot 5 large natural frame). Usually multiple times. Especially during intimacy or sex. Part of it I surmise is that bigger guys usually have bigger dicks. (Obvious again, really.)

If you are short or average height, focus on what you can change. You can still become muscled. You can still learn game. You can have great aesthetic style.

I know short guys who pull better then I do regularly. It's just one tool in a big box. It's not fair, but it's how it is.

[–]mental_models0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

They are part of physical attraction or 'looks'.

'Looks' is one of the major models that drive Sexual Market Value.

There are only a handful of 'major models' that drive SMV.

Of 'looks' specifically, there are a handful of 'major models' that drive 'looks'. A rough guess would be: Genetics(face/height/build), Fitness (muscularity, proportions), and Style(grooming/fashion/posture). Height and build would both fall under the 'genetics' model within the category of looks. Genetics is one of the major models that drives looks.

[–]yaozy0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a 6'2 80KG 20 year old who's been lifting for 3 years, it obviously helps. Focus on build though as that's what's attainable by the effort you put in. Also helps being well groomed and confident.

[–]rocacu0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd say height, I've fucked girls just for the fact That I am 6'6" I Laugh when I see someone big but short, because I know their potential is lower. Accept the truth and work with what you have.

[–]raisins3142 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Folks often sugar coat this, but being tall and built is hugely attractive to women. Just look at the celebrities that women gush over.

I have a friend that is a hippy. He's 6' 6", decent face/jaw, skinny as hell, and doesn't like to shower. He is never without a girlfriend. And these chicks are usually pretty hot.

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