Incels/braincels

Gavin-Sangria · 2019-09-28T07:39:48+00:00

Stay away from that shit

ZabuzAli · 2019-09-28T08:10:53+00:00

Today’s society has normalised victimhood due to the political-correctness movement. You can see it with most mainstream movements.

Fat-pride
Fat people claiming they deserve to be treated like fit/healthy people without putting in the work that fit/healthy people do. They claim victimhood if you call them unhealthy and unattractive, even though they sure as shit are.

Equal pay
Women claiming they are paid less doing the same exact job. Wrong. It’s fucking illegal to do that. This has been proven wrong so many times but it doesn’t matter, women can say they are victims of non-existent discrimination and is why they aren’t getting paid as much as other people (men) and not because they work less hours or any number of other reasons they themselves are responsible for.

It’s easier to hide behind being a victim than to take responsibility for your problems and do something about it. And the kicker is, today’s society rewards victimhood.

PickUpScientist · 2019-09-28T08:17:27+00:00

some people will do anything in their power to live a better life. others are satisfied with reading cherry-picked statistical analyses.

its easier to give up than to lift.

NightwingTRP · 2019-09-28T11:03:30+00:00

In essence the incels have caught on to a little bit of the story, failed to grasp the nuance of the game and come out with an absurd conclusion that is very easily disproved. The deeper you dive into TRP theory, the more nuanced it gets. The deeper you dive into incel culture, the more of the same you get. Just shouted louder. It's bit like the SJWs. Any time you bring up a point or fact that indicates their narrative might be wrong, they call you a name, pretend you know nothing and then continue shouting into their echo chamber. Most of it is fueled by laziness.

When it comes down to it, we humans are just story telling monkeys. We are pathetically shallow and simple creatures by nature. Our very perception of the world is false in many cases and we're designed quite badly for understanding the world.... yet we still strive to. Therein lies the difference between the foolish and the intelligent. For my perception point you can look into all manner of optical or auditory illusion examples. Hell, think about taste and how artificial sweeteners work. Its literally an illusion of your tastebuds as to what you are consuming. For our understanding of the world, a good example is the entire book "The Black Swan" by Nassim Nicholas Taleb.

If you are looking for real understanding, you've first got to embrace both your flawed nature and the flawed nature of humanity. The incels pick up one thing correctly, your genetics matter. The height limit placed on you by your genetics and the colour of your skin is going to impact your SMV and there's nothing you can do about either of these things. What the incels conveniently miss out, is that women also find other things attractive. Good posture, witty and funny personality, personal wealth, physical health indicators, mastery of game, leadership ability, I could go on. All of these things are within your ability to change and improve. Are they easy to improve? No. Some will be easier than others depending on you, your genetics and your intelligence.

Then there's the biggest sin they committed which even some guys well along in their red pill journey don't get and is the overemphasis of the other end of the spectrum of "getting it wrong", the MGTOWs. Women don't really matter all that much. They're just something you want to have sex with because you were programmed to want to have sex with them. These incels could never accept the paradox which I note every now and again on here for the guys who are trying too hard, that you're more likely to get sex if you genuinely don't care if you have sex or not. Desperation is extremely unattractive because it is an indicator of low sexual value. That you have no options. So it's better to grit your teeth and fake it until you make it and seem like you are not devoid of other options if this one falls through. (Not to mention being able to walk away is absolutely imperative if you ever spot a red flag that might fuck up your life and avoid things like shitting where you eat.)

All in all, they're all the same. They've found their narrative, but their narrative doesn't explain some things. In the case of incels, their narrative is also a self-fulfilling prophecy which makes it particularly toxic. Similar with the MGTOWs. Most things are explained by TRP if you do your reading and grasp the material well enough, but that requires that you hunt down the writings of men with something valuable to say. There's plenty of rubbish that has appeared in the comments of TRP over the years and it is not all to be trusted. We've solved this by having official endorsement of certain members to essentially stick a badge next to people who are saying good things that have value. Use it to navigate and you'll be fine.

-Acro- · 2019-09-28T08:11:14+00:00

pay them no mind. if you're truly in a good position as you say.. you'd understand the incel nature just worry about your own.

OracleofFl · 2019-09-28T11:28:31+00:00

> like they want to win an Oscar without even being in a movie

More like winning an Oscar without taking an acting class, learning the craft, going for auditions, etc.

MattyAnon · 2019-09-28T15:02:15+00:00

but these guys literally refuse to go workout, shower, haircut, earn money. I

Exactly. They are using genetics and hypergamy as an excuse to be lazy. "It's pointless so I will do nothing".

What I’m trying to understand is what goes on in the minds of these people?

Laziness, blaming other people.

Have any of you been reformed or have an insight on these poor creatures?

I had a rough time with women when I was young (15-25) due to feminist upbringing and blue pill lies (it's what's inside that counts / you'll meet the right woman one day / when you're in love none of that stuff matters / sex shouldn't be a priority).

Tried a few terrible relationships (did everything for her, got treated like shit, was told this is normal). Eventually I fell into a deep low BUT... and here is the difference vs the incels... I came out of that low ruthless, determined and relentless. I stopped playing by society's rules and started using reality as it really is to get what I wanted.

I can imagine a person less determined, less motivated, less sufficient... with a poor locus of control could get into that low and stay in a self destructive state.

Google "locus of control" if you don't know the concept, it's absolutely critical for a good life, and may be the answer you're looking for, OP.

liquorbaron · 2019-09-28T16:53:28+00:00

Some of them are legit (people that are seriously fucked up looking physically that end up involuntary celibate) but a lot of it is just trolling as well. Some of it is good for getting blackpilled like showing redpill concepts like AWALT. People in some of those groups do "Chadfishing" to women (make a fake Chad profile on a dating site and then document responses to show how much of a different world it is for Chads vs other men).

It can be a good wake up call to guys that are struggling with their bluepill views on women. A good way to kick out that pussy pedestal that so many guys have with women.

personalityjestcel · 2019-09-28T20:46:42+00:00

Just take a shower bro! You will turn into chad in no time bro! JFL chad can not shower and still get laid. Keep coping at night. You know we are right cause you deleted your comment, spineless cunt.

anklecel · 2019-09-28T21:18:33+00:00

deluded redpiller

vondoom900 · 2019-09-29T02:23:24+00:00

Hmm Only read about this incel thing recently. Mainly because some cunt on here called me one lol

So they don't want to fuck or they are too troll like and can't?

Women will fuck an ugly troll if he's rich so that parts wrong. However, if you look at a family tree it's mostly women - few men mainly because said men are having multiple families and fucking round. That part of their theory is correct though and lines up with trp.

I guess incels are pocketed in the most disposal group of men, which I bet not all of them are, they just don't want to put any effort in - nearly everyone has at least one redeemable genetic trait I assume.

novelgrowth16 · 2019-09-28T08:32:01+00:00

lots of redpilled dudes say that redpill only works for people who aren't ugly. so why should i waste my time doing all of this redpilled stuff if it's for things that aren't going to happen? the blackpill makes more sense for me personally.

VaN__Darkholme · 2019-09-28T08:43:15+00:00

masterpiece00 · 2019-09-28T08:42:05+00:00

Life is essentially meaningless, you have taken the view that you are suddenly superior to them because you may have sex a few times more, and that your meaning is more than theirs. Maybe they are happy, maybe they do interesting shit?
Like you said, you were very blue pilled two years ago, with someone else using you as an example.

They will die, you will die and nothing will have changed, the world will move on.

Title	Incels/braincels
Author	CSauceHockey
Upvotes	10
Comments	51
Date	September 28, 2019 7:27 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
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