As many PUAs have written, and many girls have told me, persistence is something that turns women on making you more desirable and that can increase your odds of getting her to like you. You should not fall into the obstacles between you and her. In fact, according to them persistence make them feel desired, and people like to be longed for.

PUAs and women yet both agree that showing neediness is a strong turn-off and thus should be always avoided.

But what I didn't understand is: what is the thin line between being persistent with a lady and being needy? How can you be persistent without showing neediness?

So I am asking to this community...

Hope to get good answers