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Why is TRP so controversial?...Telemundo is straight up TRP shit applied to their shows, and no one gives two shits

Emblem909

November 29, 2014
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Title Why is TRP so controversial?...Telemundo is straight up TRP shit applied to their shows, and no one gives two shits
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Emblem909

Upvotes 13
Comments 27
Date November 29, 2014 7:58 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/askTRP
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Comments

[–]TRP_Neophyte17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I can't speak from a TRP knowledge base but masculinity is a far bigger thing in Hispanic culture, and has not been neutered(or as neutered) as in our American/European(assuming that is your origin) culture. You see this in Hispanic men.

[–]Diegosmiles_ 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Hispanic here!

Yes it is true, masculinity is a well see thing here. And it is usual that your wife Cook, do the laundry, raise your kids while the man is watching sports. The problem is that we are very dependant on the concept of family. Here, it is normal to live with your parents during your 20s until you marriage your 10-year-old LTR and leave the house for living with her.

[–]RobertCarraway0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I was listening to a Spanish radio station that I stumbled upon the other day.. My Spanish is terrible, but he was talking about the differences between men and women, it was clearly a Red Pill rant. I want to improve my Spanish so that I can hear some sense for a change.

[–]Diegosmiles_ 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Keep in mind that southamerican culture (down here, in Southamrica) is way more different than the hispanic one (Spain, in Europe). Im talking about Southamerica, I think that in Spain the culture is much more liberal (that is, more feminism)

[–]RobertCarraway1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good point. Columbia was very macho. The women were beautiful, but surprisingly quite chaste in many cases. Chile was where I got laid, and it was by a (surprise surprise) left-leaning feminist type chick. I found many people to be more liberal in Chile.

So thanks for the correction, I should know better than to generalize to that degree.

[–]iluminatiNYC0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's pretty much the experience of most of the Latin people I know. The only exceptions are OMGWTF assimilated types.

[–]Perspective1334 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I was going to say "Because of limp-wristed chalkie white liberal SWPL types", but yeah this suffices.

[–]praiseth3sun4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Feminism hasn't made quite an impact in latin america for several reasons.

1- As someone mentioned, the language barrier. Everything is gendered, a lot of concepts are different, and concepts are just framed differently.

2- Family is still a vital part of latin america. Family roles are still normal, with women expected to hold domestic duties, but this is slowly changing.

3- Most people live at home until they're married, or at least until they're done with school. This is done for several pragmatic reasons, but also keeps the family together, as well as avoids your daughter becoming the local pump and dump. Granted, Hispanic culture isn't known for it's chastity..

4- Women in Hispanic culture are flat out encouraged to develop, and flaunt, their sexuality. They never had this puritanical notion of being ashamed of their sexuality, they flat out accept it. They understand that being sexy doesn't necessarily make you a slut, but they do understand it gets you male attention (which all women want).

5- The soap operas are about as red pill as they get. Growing up my mom I would watch these things, and I would watch them with her to practice my Spanish. They speak a lot of human nature and hypergamy, although super dramatic to keep their viewer base (women) coming back for more. They are SUPER hoaky, but did teach me a lot of these concepts at an early age. I wouldn't recommend watching them, but they did affect me in a positive way.

6- Hispanic culture still wants strong men. Weak men are still viewed as pathetic, and aren't projected as an ideal.

Granted, I'm bias, as my family is from Mexico, but hey, what do you juan from me.

[–]RobertCarraway3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As someone mentioned, the language barrier. Everything is gendered, a lot of concepts are different, and concepts are just framed differently

I think this is HUGE. If everything in your cultured is associated with the masculine or the feminine, then it becomes very difficult to erase. Even a house is identified with the feminine.

For feminism to take root in Hispanic cultures, the first step would be to remove all sorts of gender qualifiers from the language. That would be a difficult task.

People don't quite realize that feminism is a white-only thing though. Most world cultures don't give a shit about our absurd obsession with the elimination of differences. China, India, Africa, Middle East, South America, they all recognize innate differences. The white nations, on the other hand, are batshit nuts, and they frame it all as some new level of civilization.

[–]1oldredder1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you gonna be rayciss I'm nacho friend anymore!

:)

In all seriousness I feel left out that my country's 2nd language is French, no one speaks Spanish here so I can't take a look at telemundo unless I want to sit there with Google translate all damn day.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Others have noticed that France and Latin America aren't following the feminist narrative to nearly the same degree. The theory is, the bullshit doesn't translate across languages that well.

Language frames thought.

[–]intelcorei50 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Telemundo doesn't have many newcomers representing it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

WTF is Telemundo?

[–]alpha_n3rd2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Channel ocho

[–]WishIHadMyOldUsernam 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A Spanish language TV network in the US. It's mostly known for shitty telenovelas (what the other guy meant by soap operas) and also has some game shows, sports, and news.

[–]elykdavid 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Soap operas?

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. Not a native speaker.

Never watched that shit beyond some episodes now and then. Not RP at all in my opinion, but just over-exagerated drama aimed at the female fantasy.

[–]RedHeimdall1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's a spanish language tv channel that has soap operas (telenovelas), game shows, news, stuff like that I think. What OP is probably referring to is that most all the females on the channel are hot. Even on the news shows, the female presenters will be in high heels, relatively short skirts, cleavage showing, etc.

[–]R4F1-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The guys on the shows are usually handsome too. I really don't see much RP element to it. They're filled with love triangles and cheating lovers anyways. Not much TRP about it.

[–]praiseth3sun0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hypergamy bruh

[–][deleted] 0 points0 points0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

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[–]1oldredder1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Forecasting a very hot ass day in Acapulco.

[–]LeggyBlueEyes0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I've been reading a lot about narcissism lately and I think perhaps the people who are so against TRP may have experience with a narcissist or fear that this philosophy will turn a man into one. I can certainly see how a narcissist would be drawn to the ideas of TRP, since they have a strong desire to control the person they are in a relationship with and they naturally display dread. This could give them the perfect way to explain away their behaviors and deny the narcissism.

That being said, most men are not pathological to this level. I also believe that there is really no denying the underlying human nature as its explained in TRP philosophy, so there's no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water, which is essentially what many people are doing out of fear.

[–]1oldredder2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Might even be the mirror image: feminism is turning women into worse narcissists than ever before and having TRP teach men to expose it and/or refuse to tolerate it immediately removes the power women sought to gain by feminism, because being power-mad to dominate men isn't healthy whereas being power-balanced, man as man, woman as woman, is fine but that's not what feminism teachers. It's driving them mad & I'm small, slight up-ticks in women not wanting to be feminist or identified as feminist.

[–]LeggyBlueEyes0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

From what I've read you can't really turn into a narcissist. You are or you aren't, and usually due to trauma and/or neglect in childhood. Interestingly enough that trauma/neglect tends to appear as narcissism for men and borderline personality disorder for women. Either way makes for a good argument for the importance of the family dynamic - which is a value of TRP men in LTRs.

[–]1oldredder0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Depends on if you're concerned with the clinical definition or just the expressive behaviour that is narcissistic, like having all restrictions removed from a person and expecting only good behaviour to follow. Unlikely.

Family is important but beyond family there's also a cultural dynamic & both are being eroded from many angles.

[–]LeggyBlueEyes0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What I was reading was more on the severe/clinical side. Although the narcissistic traits are def more prevalent now than in the past for myriad reasons. That whole parenting thought of "everyone is special/gets a trophy" certainly didn't help. So glad I never bought into that.

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