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[–]hunterpua 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you have reasons to hang out other than because you're into each other?
Because it sounds to me like you're going for a relationship with this girl. If that's the case then you wanna be doing more than just eating and drinking when you go out on dates.
You wanna be doing things that each of you wanna do. Expose each other to your hobbies and interests. Go to places that each of you would go to with a bunch of friends.
In fact, you should invite her to come hang out with you and your buddies and let her know you'd be cool hanging out with her and her friends too.
Creating a relationship is about welcoming her into your life and becoming more of a part of her life as well.
The frequency of texting should naturally adjust depending on how involved you are with each other's lives because there will be more plans to be made and more topics to discuss.
However, if you just want a casual situation then just fuck her really good and keep inviting her over to your place for more sex. The texting will naturally be less frequent if all you talk about and plan for is fucking each other.
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[–]OrzhovPalatine 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I hope those days were cheap. The 5th date is pretty late for sex, I always recommend guys cut their losses by date 3.
At this point you just keep hanging out, have fun and lay pipe until she has the "where is this going?" speech if you want a commitment.
As for her complaining, let her complain. Dont bend over and keep doing what you're doing. Never listen to what a girl says, watch what she does.
Also keep in mind you messed up somewhere if you had to wait till date 5 for sexy time. Her attraction level for you likely isnt that high.
[–]mt_1994[S] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Things is. This girl knows some tactics too. She’s the type to go on YouTube and look up videos, think logically about the situation. That’s why she decided to wait long. Now she can’t keep her hands off me. Even sent me a sexy video. My best friend is her friend so I have someone on the inside that tells me what she’s really thinking lol. From what she’s told him she has a high interest but consciously doesn’t want to come off as clingy. She’s also always down to hang out whenever I say and never makes it hard. Anyways, yeah that’s what I thought about keeping doing what I’m doing but I know for a fact it is bugging her that I go a bit MIA and I actually do see this going somewhere and wouldn’t want me not texting her unless it’s to set up dates to ruin that.
[–]OrzhovPalatine 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Her looking up tactics isnt an excuse. You're suppose to be on top of this. She only got away with waiting so long because you allowed her to get away with it.
Also dont delude yourself into thinking you have a insider. She knows it's likely your mutual friend will tell you things she says so uses that to save herself the trouble of telling you herself.
I'm just saying you started off on the back foot and you seemed like you were about to slip up and start complying to her wishes.
Just keep doing what your doing. Do things at your own pace not hers.
[–]erect_sean 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Excuse for what? He got the date, he got laid and the girl is now all over him. I'm aware that we're trying to help out and shit but sometimes we set weird standards like having to fuck before date 3. Every girl is different so outer game and rules like this are a good framework but we shouldn't be strict about them.
I do agree about the insider friend. You shouldn't rely on that at some point that will blow up in your face. I'd also ask OP why is he going MIA is it because he's actually busy or is it something else.
[–]OrzhovPalatine -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
5 dates is too long. That's alot of time and money wasted. Also it's not a good habit to get into letting a girl waste your time.
He got laid yes but gave her 4 dates first. It's a bad return on investment.
I simply have a lower tolerance than you.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If it aint broke, don't fix it.
[–]letsgetrandy 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I always recommend guys cut their losses by date 3.
If I'm not fucking a girl by the 2nd date, there will be no 3rd.
Not a good hard-and-fast rule. Sometimes there's simply not sexual chemistry there. She may be attracted and you may be attracted, but for reasons of personality or whatever you just don't speak the same physical language.
I have learned over the years to spot this early rather than letting it get to date 5, but there were times many years ago that I would like a girl and we would enjoy each other's company, but there was just never a moment where I felt like making a move, and same for her. All the more reason to cut it by date 2 if it's not moving in the right direction.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She doesn’t like it but it keeps her wondering, “what is Alex up to?” I’ve heard somewhere on like weird facts that relationships where the couples go on dates one night a week are super healthy and longer lasting. Also when you put time in between, it lets her take more time to get to know you and figure you out. If she finds everything out super quickly then she might lose interest. Women love mystery, but I don’t know shit about women. I just know what some pick up artist needs say.
[–]Goruto1334 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let her bring up the idea of a relationship. If she brings it up, talk about it then. For now just enjoy having her to have a great day with with no strings. If she starts to like you enough she will bring it up, it may be subtle though so be aware and a good listener.
[–]STD_Tyler 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
5 dates to fuck!? Are you guys Koreans?
[–]thundabot 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amazes me how guys in this age group complicate things so much and have this perception that to get ‘x’ you must do ‘y’. Every girl is different and every relationship is different. You should be communicating with each other to find out what you both want. There’s no set ‘rules’ to follow. Things should evolve naturally and if one person wants more/less it should be talked about. And go from there.
[–]Wulfe_84 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop thinking. That’s for women.
[–]HoobaDooba420 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro 3 date rule
[–]quinnmcd[M] [score hidden] 6 years ago stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]keepinitre 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. You said that you are possibly interested in a relationship with her and you already have attraction with her. Now you can safely build up as much rapport and connection as you want. Once attraction is there it is fine (and actually part of the benefits of relationship) that you can focus on connection, while still maintaining a spark, which you seem to clearly be doing. I agree with the assessment that you may be over-gaming at this point! I have made both mistakes before: not first developing attracion before connecting, and also continuing to focus on attraction when it was time to also focus on connection.
[–]surffreak336 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You’re asking us if you can text and have conversations with a girl you’re dating....
[–]mt_1994[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Texting ruins attraction. I wanna know if I’m the later stages that would change. Or if maybe that’s what she thinks she wants but it would actually work against me.
[–]surffreak336 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What? You’re scaring me with your beliefs and whoever taught you that has no idea what they are talking about.. Texting doesn’t ruin attraction you can have conversations with a girl ESPECIALLY one you’ve been seeing man.
[–]mt_1994[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Texting does ruin attraction man. Attraction is created in space. This is seduction 101. My question is if once seduction (sex) has happened do I have to maintain the same approach or does it change? You need to keep woman wondering about you. Never be too available or attraction will die down.
[–]Visualize_ 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel like you are going to end up overgaming her because you are too caught up in tactics. Like at this point you don't need to be so rigid on attraction theory and you should just treat this girl like someone you are interested in before she is the one who loses interest from the games you are playing
[–]surffreak336 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You're taking that texting thing out of context. This doesn't apply when you are already seeing a girl... And those beliefs to that are going to affect you down the road. Its going to be a slow poison drip man. Theres a difference between being to available and texting a girl that you already seeing. Your going to lose her from the texting games when she is already heavily interested
[–]Timely-Art-1 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go on another date, hook up and during pillow talk bring up the topic of the relationship.
[–]anto2554 -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ask her
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