Anyone do a bootcamp?

plowzedong · 2018-03-24T13:00:44+00:00

"Jesus fucking christ. That is a lot of money."

That was my first reaction.

That said, if you consider it an investment then it's not that bad - just invest wisely.

I've never taken a bootcamp. But, my game improved dramatically from hanging out with other guys who were good at game.

I'm not one of those guys who always wants to go out with a wing. But, you can learn a lot from other guys who know what they're doing:

You can see first hand the different mindsets that successful guys have.
You can see different styles of game. I know guys in their 40s who put girls in their 20s from day game. And I know young entrepreneurs who just spin plates. I know RSD fanboys, and guys who do really well based on their looks and social media. I know guys who have burned down cities of 7 million people from doing endless autistic spam approaches (granted, they fuck waaaay more girls than I do). I don't judge any of this shit. I just try to learn, try to try everything within my realm of competence, incorporate a bit of each and roll with what works best while trying to stay innovative and on a continual path of refinement.
You learn different routines that other guys are using.
I'm not one for endless bragging and locker talk, but some of that shit can inspire you and give you ideas for things to try.
High value guys who are good with women aren't going to hang out with losers whose inability to get laid is one of their many petty problems. Hanging out with guys with game (especially the higher value ones) will force you to step your shit up.
Hopefully, you'll also learn that value-exchange is a universal principle. Just like you can't constantly take from a women, you can't take from a friend. In order to have respect among high value guys, you'll have to be good with men as well as women.
You get useful feedback. Successful people don't buy into mainstream narratives as much. Guys who are successful with women would laugh at a lot of the advice that get thrown around here.
You can actually form pretty good friendships. Myself and a few guys do regular nature hikes or trips to the beach. It's not really explored too much in the discussion here, but I'd be willing to bet that most of the aspie newbs here not only suck with women, but they also probably have few male friends. So, through game, I was able to create a solid group of successful guy friends who do male-only activities.

tldr; $1500 is a fuckton of money. If invested into the right coach, you could learn a lot. I've grown most quickly from hanging out with other guys who do game, sometimes in different ways. The best experiences with these guys include forming value-positive friendships, such that couldn't be bought or replicated by a bootcamp.

WIA20XX · 2018-03-24T14:26:49+00:00

Get referrals

GuyFromDaStore · 2018-03-24T18:41:52+00:00

Waste of money, just like "professional development classes" which I've taken many in my years of office jobs.

SnapSocialGuru · 2018-03-24T18:45:59+00:00

I haven’t paid for a boot camp.

But I have paid for premium coaching services of other sorts.

And here’s my take: they’re worth it.

The coaches see people from all walks of life and have learned how to address their needs.

Talk to a few. Do a free consultation with them first. See if it’s a match.

It’s likely you’ll come out far better.

zenplus · 2018-03-25T01:47:44+00:00

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John-lovestosposh · 2018-03-25T04:20:02+00:00

Not down to drop 1500$ .

Read a book and take action .

Marcelgerad · 2018-03-25T04:35:54+00:00

If you've got $1500 and you want to spend it, you're better off signing up with Glenn P and destroying your approach anxiety completely.

Title	Anyone do a bootcamp?
Author	zenplus
Upvotes	1
Comments	10
Date	March 24, 2018 12:19 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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