At what age did you start reading PUA/seduction/self-help material? And how has it changed you; for better or worse?

CmrShep · 2014-12-18T14:39:34+00:00

I started reading at age 30, and I'm almost 32. It's become all about self-improvement, eliminating bad habits and improving confidence. Girls are only part of the whole. It forced me to look at myself and say "Whatever you've been doing has not been working for you, it's time to try something different." I discovered that I was my own greatest enemy.
I created a list of five goals for the year for 2014. I completed 4 out of the 5. I immediately got out of my comfort zone, and did the things that I had always wanted to do, but made excuses for avoiding. It's made me excited about life, and gives me direction. I eliminated bad habits and attitudes, and started to cultivate better ones. My worst aspect was schadenfreud and negativity. I reframed my attitude. Plato said, "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." I read a lot of the stuff about verbal and nonverbal communication. I got a great job, because I nailed an interview due to my confidence in myself. The old me would not have succeeded. Lastly, it's helped me to find the type of girls that I like. I tend to have a slower game, because I like to get to know a girl before getting involved. The old me moved way too quickly. I rarely post, but I'm a much better person thanks to Seddit. I have a much more positive outlook, and I am able to enjoy myself.

yahhbsam · 2014-12-18T19:21:57+00:00

I only got into game about 6 months ago (I'm 21) but I can already say it's helped me immensely. I've never been bad with women, but I've always had issues really putting myself out there and relaxing, probably due to some negative experiences from my past.

Before learning about game, I would go out and have a good time but I was so uptight and I would never dream of doing anything like cold approach. I'm much more confident and comfortable in my skin, and my state is just way more positive now. I'm always working on being in a positive mood and giving love to everyone I meet, and it's translated into a lot more success with women. I've learned to love being around girls even if I'm not sexually interested in them, and I've gotten miles better at controlling interactions and directing sets where I want them to go. It's a very liberating feeling being in control of your love life and your experiences.

I've also focused on improving myself and becoming a better, more positive person who is fun to be around and I've definitely improved in that sense. I'm still far from where I wanna be with women and I have a lot to improve on, but I'm really happy with everything I've learned and can't wait to see how much I improve over the next year.

Next step is learning commitment. I'm 21 and still have never had any sort of serious girlfriend.

faydee · 2014-12-18T14:07:17+00:00

At age 17, close to 18. I'm a little bit sad about the fact that I've discovered this subreddit so late, because when I think back, I'm ashamed of myself; had so many chances that I didn't take because I was reaally bad with women.

But it is way better now, I didn't achieve everything I wanted yet but I know that'll come with the time. I'm not as needy as I was, I have huge self-confidence now and I'm always in a good mood. :)

2014-12-18T22:22:41+00:00

Started when i was 17, and it had a really bad impact on myself, i was like "I want the gurls and fuck". I messed with me pretty bad. I failed a hard cursus i could have been successful with if i had the same mindset i've today. I also was really incongruent with myself ( i was told TO BE confident, not to believe in myself, i was told what the girl wanted in a man ).

I'm preparing an exam and it helped me in a way that earlier this year i started eating healthly, repractice my favorite sport i was force to stop when i was 15. ( i'm 21 ) I was telling myself that : i need to have something to give them even if my life sucks.

I read Tao of Badass past week, i improved ENORMOUSLY (i'm a very logical guy, and ToB told me how the mechanism work in our world ), and discovered what are emotion, self esteem and what it is to be loved for who you are this week, and with a girl i choosed ( beautiful and supportive ).

I realised that i was very weak emotionnaly. I discovered the emotion part of this world, it's like the world around me changed. I'm also being overwhelm by emotion, i kinda messed up with what i read, and turned out to be very very very sad for the past 2 days.

So i started a list of things to do and imperative sentences to not repeat the mistake i made.

SheepKing · 2014-12-19T01:26:14+00:00

at 21, I left my first girlfriend and was totally heart broken, I still miss her today, but it was for me a way of looking for intense validation, to pass over it. I worked a lot on my game and I've been dating a lot of women since then.

I've worked a lot on self improvement and I'm happy that this girl left me, it pushed me into the right direction and I would never go back in time to be still with her, even if like i still miss her. I totally changed since then and I believe it's for the better.

Sometimes it fucks you up when you read to much shit, but when it all comes together, you get way more balanced and mature then you were before. You are stronger and more experienced, not just in a physical skill, but also mentally.

Success comes with many failures from all of which you learns a lot.

dingalingthrowaway · 2014-12-19T03:00:35+00:00

Started when I was like 15 years old. At first it changed me for the better- everything was bomb, I was droppin girls left and right. Now I'm 16, and I almost wish I never found this fuckin website. I feel retarded and shit isn't the same, I never used to think about what I said... its fucked

JosephPalin · 2014-12-19T19:12:30+00:00

I read the game when I was 13, I tried to apply some of what I read to my life and I even downloaded styles annihilation method, but I never finished the book. Suffice to say I was probably too young and socially self conscious for any of the material to work. I remember trying magic tricks to pick up girls, yeah, it didn't work. So I didn't really do anything about seduction for a few years until I recently went to university (I'm a Freshman) where I read models and went back on seddit. Overall this has made me a more confident and better version of myself. I've made so much progress so fast, had my first kiss, went home with a girl, etc.

Wolf_SF · 2014-12-18T21:59:15+00:00

I started at age 21, about half a year ago. It's not only about seduction or being good with women. It's a way to improve yourself, to be happier. To become stronger, wiser, more experienced.

Before, seduction for me was something that i could only do with my girlfriend at the time being. Right now seduction has become a part of me that i don't want to let go. I've never been so happy or confident before in my life.

circlhat · 2014-12-18T22:52:14+00:00

I started at 22 to better understand women, I always knew something was off, In my heart I always knew the truth but was to much of a coward to admit it.

Girls don't want a sensitive, whinny man, they want a leader and a man with a plan on top of that they want you to be sexually aggressive.

I stop asking permission to kiss girls and just went for it. I use to think I had to ask for sex and this was so unattractive it killed any chance I had.

After understanding the nature of women I enjoy them more and have less fights and less drama because I understand their perspective.

All these things made my life, without them I would be no where with women and probably well into my 60's alone and wondering whats going on.

PUA/self-help didn't change me at all, it just help me understand my mistakes. I still the same guy its just I don't feel the need to demonized my sexuality and I always put it up front

Tits or GTFO

quakeboy · 2014-12-21T09:58:39+00:00

I am 27. I started 6 to 8 months back. I had read many of this before, but in my reality it was never possible, due the kind of society I was raised in. But my life's most biggest luck was to meet this guy who is my amazing buddy, who was doing PUA for six years and took me in as his student.

2014 has been the best year of my life. It helped me free myself from the bullshit that society feeds you, helped me sort out all my issues (linked to many childhood traumas), I have never been as confident as I am now, I hope to get better.

I broke so many self-limiting beliefs within a matter of weeks/months. Like many have mentioned everyone gets into this for women, but its kind of like a trick, as it will just make you a better person and women will just respond to it. I still need to work on my outer game. But I have greatly benefitted from my Inner game.

And I stopped drinking due the advice from my PUA mentor, which I never enjoyed anyways. If I have to at a party or something I just have a glass of red wine. Women can sense that you have the balls to approach them at bars while you are ordering non-alcoholic drinks. It is fascinating to see how much they are surprised.

Before I was fat, hairy, with a balding thin-haired head. Now I am the same + extra awesomeness :D

I really feel this needs to be a discipline in schools, to eradicate the bullshit that has been carried on by culture and society for ages causing misery among humankind.

slurmfactory · 2014-12-18T16:13:05+00:00

18 I'd say. I'm 29 now... it has changed me immensely for the better, although there was a period where I feel it made me too shallow, as I was valuing looks, alphaness and social skills over everything else which is lame. Now I of course will still only be interested in girls I am attracted to, and looks is a huge factor, but I try not to be so judgmental in general, viewing betas as less than men or unattractive women as not worth my time. Trying to find a balance there.

Aside from that, it has helped me reach goals, learn the how and why of social interactions, and become a man who knows how to get what he wants, instead of a frustrated boy who is constantly down on himself. It also proved to me that no matter what the goal I set for myself, I can achieve it. Boosted confidence, experience, etc.

NeoSamwell · 2014-12-18T21:31:09+00:00

I was 14 when I first discovered anything seduction related but I had a relationship at the time, after it ended I was depressed for awhile, it wasn't until I was 15 and 3/4 years old that I got serious about this, and I still have much to learn! I'm 16 turning 17 in a month right now.

chadeusmaximus · 2014-12-18T21:48:25+00:00

Stumbled upon this subreddit a few years ago, at ...37?

A lot of this info is geared towards the younger crowd, in their early 20s, but also somewhat useful for us older folks.

Never had a problem picking up chicks when I was younger. The problem when you get older, is finding a chick worth spending your time on. /humble brag.

ultrasuperthrowaway · 2014-12-19T20:32:25+00:00

Started at age 29 was only having sex with 1 new girl every 8 weeks on average.

Then became good from reading material and was having sex with 1 new girl every week on average. Now 32 years old.

8x the sex thanks to this place.

I'm all about results not emotional BS

radeonsmiles · 2014-12-18T21:44:17+00:00

I was about 17. I got really into it like hours every week researching but I didn't find any results probably just because of my bad habits.

Now 6 months later everything is kinda falling into place when when I interact with girls. It's not even my confidence or anything it's more of my actions and mindset is changing as I recall bits of theory that I've read. It's really great I feel so much better in a lot of aspects of my life. For example even last Friday I went out and kissed three different girls. That was something unheard of me only a couple months earlier.

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