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[–]Golferama 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
What in the fuck does this mean
[+]Honest_Inevitable632 -22 points-21 points-20 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
We as dudes can never control who swipes right back on us but this is a foolproof guarantee to increase the probability of getting more matches and getting lots of interviews or even getting them in the bedroom right away (if that’s your goal)
[–]JustChillingOut 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bruh what is you sayin?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Bruh go outside
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lmao. I prolly get laid more than anyone on here. You guys would benefit from me more than I would from here
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are a weirdo
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
K bye
[–]ReadyTelephone2395 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
? He speaking facts.
[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is the stupidest fucking post I've ever read. How to say absolutely nothing while trying to pretend you're smarter than you are.
[+]Honest_Inevitable632 -15 points-14 points-13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And it sounds you’re salty af
You learn by listening
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No man because your advice is completely nonsensical.
"The best seduction there is, is to get to her want you" -- I'm trying not to roll my eyes into my skull.
You win Tinder game by having interesting photos, non-serious bio, and being funny/witty. Not complicated. Being good looking isn't even a thing.
But your advice is just trying too hard.
[+]Honest_Inevitable632 -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok. You do you
Someone mad
[–]tacomonster92 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Wise words someone once told me about dating and seduction:
1) Be attractive.
2) Don't be unattractive.
[–]VeliVoy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha, perfect! Dating is all about attraction.
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Whoever said that knows it.
[–]tacomonster92 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's a joke a comedian once said, but I don't remember who. Shit has some truth but it sucks for everyone out here.
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem with most men on here is you try to help them but they let their ego get in the way. Rather than learning and listening, they get defensive? Why? Because they’re just too lazy and egotistical to learn and apply work.
[–]18cmOfGreatness 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Except, being attracive as a man isn't about your looks alone. Not even close. To get girls with your looks alone you need to be like top 1-2% in terms of looks, which is obviously impossible for most guys. But being a real man instead of a pussy like most of the males is going to put you in the top 1% in terms of attractviness just based on your personality. And when it comes to Tinder, your style and the type of photos you do (their context) is more than half of the success. As long a you're at least 5/10 in looks by default, you can look like an 9/10 on your photos, at least to girls. You can be 10/10 in looks but your low quality bathroom selfie is going to place you at the bottom, lmao.
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why choose between being handsomest version of yourself and attractiveness while you can have both. Good pictures are essential but my point is there’s a plethora of things anyone can do to looks max themselves.
On tinder, personality is at the bottom of the barrel. You must first get the interview through superior good looks.
One key is to have a chiseled face, clear skin, good teeth and a strong brow game. These are all workable
[–]18cmOfGreatness 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If your advice for guys is to looksmax using cosmetics for online dating then you aren't wrong. But from your post and replies it can be easily misunderstood that you're just whining that "without being born with good genes you have no chance as a man".
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because it’s not all about cosmetics nor looks max alone; it’s a part of it. I do very very well on dating apps
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (41 children) | Copy Link
So u wanna make her like you, or you wanna make her want u?
Im confused..
[+]Honest_Inevitable632 -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link
Like and want are two different things. Words have meanings.
Like is what happens after getting to know each other
Want happens doing nothing. It’s an immediate instant emotion (lust for example)
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (39 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but u didn’t answer to my question
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (38 children) | Copy Link
In plain English, you need to bring out your handsomest version for her to automatically want you. It takes 11 milliseconds to determine sexual attraction hence dating apps (swiping left or right) work
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link
Still didn’t. Ur making sense ofc
But again. Whats ur purpose. To be liked by women. Or to be wanted by women. Whats priority?
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link
You gotta make her want you first before she even considers swiping right on you. Women say looks don’t matter but it does. Tinder and other dating apps is perhaps 99% looks and 1% bio.
It’s best to be one of the handsomest amongst her matches, be witty on your bio and be the most assertive to seal the deal.
P.S.
This is not act of manipulation. You simply provide what she wants. Dating is selling.
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link
Thats not manipulating when YOU ARE, not juts acting wannabe.
And yeah, wanting is #1 priority. Liking is friendzone shit. Never buy into it
And so, u may repeat urself, but how does the wanting part work, in your opinion?
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link
Before signing up on dating apps, it’s not as easy as just installing the app. Looks max yourself (yes, there’s a shit ton of things we can do to enhance our facial and fitness attractiveness).
I’m surprised that too many dudes on here even take hookups for date whilst I just take them all straight to the bedroom.
It may sound like I’m using women; actually no. I’m always upfront with my intention and they’re likely going to say yes the same day/ night to sleep with you before even meeting you in person.
All it takes is facetiming (to show her that you are as good looking as you are on your pictures)
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link
Then idk what your issue is..
Ps: cute face gets u better chances to get YES to a dance invitation. But you still gotta dance. So nah, looks isn’t the key to seduction.
Your post and history of experience aren’t on same page.
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
Not with 5 years of experience
I made this thread to help other dudes.
[–]Pipnotiq 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Here's some proof of not being born good-looking This was 13. it took me until 28 or so to get my shit together, stop being a weirdo and realize there was more in my control than I thought. I'm hardly much better looking now, but confidence-wise I do what I want for the most part.
Confidence comes from creating our ideal self including our ideal body and face image
[–]Pipnotiq 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You can be confident without that though. If a guy dresses somewhat respectably, can hold a conversation, and is socially calibrated to some degree, he'll get through 90% of his interactions
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Confidence is nothing if you don’t meet her attractiveness threshold. Attraction gets us the interview, honesty and assertiveness seals the deal
[–]VeliVoy 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is facts. You can be as confident as you want, but if you don't meet her attractiveness threshold you don't go beyond the friendzone. It's as simple as that. You think she doesn't meet enough ugly looking confident men in her life? She meets tens of those kind but she dates the best looking she can score.
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I evolved myself; I’m a 39 y/o divorced dude who has been using Tinder and other dating apps for 5 years. I started by being lean and fit then I wasn’t happy with the matches I was getting so I concentrated on what’s on the neck up. My matches did not just quadrupled but the quality also improved.
On top of that, the ladies were equally enticed to sleep with asap.
[–]VeliVoy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good for you man. That is something men on here refuse to learn, but your looks matter, & by looks, I mean neck up. Your face matters.
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bingo. I pretty much summed up most men’s questions here why women don’t respond to them, flakes on them, ghosts them, etc.
Good looks is the king.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Look at her profile and dont message her. I'm a stupid f boy, never message first, ever,
What’s wrong with messaging her first? It’s a good sign that you have balls to actually make a move. Everyone wants to be desired
[–]d00b661 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Serial killer vibes off OP
[–]nordik1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Dating apps just blow for everyone, even handsome guys.
For women they get tons of likes, but nearly every guy is a fuckin weirdo or simp if you've seen the chick side of things on an app
Meanwhile guys battle it out for the scraps of 5/10's and handsome dudes get accused of being catfish or have to date down because the hot chicks quickly leave the app after realizing there's nothing but weirdos or dudes just wanting to smash
It's a lose lose for both sides
[–]no_not_this 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Meh I’ve had good luck.
[–]nordik1 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Key word is luck. I've done really, really well at some points too but in hindsight I view those as spikes of exceptional outcome in the midst of the typical.
The vast majority of time on a dating app as a dude whether you're good looking or not is dealing with flakes, boring ass women, having to accept a standard you're not really into, and left swiping until some hot girls sign up and appear in the stack again. The time investment per day can be low, but the overall bigger picture is pretty shit when you factor in conversion rates and actually dating/sleeping with the caliber of women you're seeking without compromise
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The point is if you’re really good looking af, they’re not gonna flake nor ghost; in fact, they’re going to be really attentive
[–]nordik1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s not accurate at all. That is something that guys who aren’t good looking makeup in their head. They don’t know what it’s actually like
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If OP has to date scraps because good looking women keep ghosting him, then I don't think he is as good looking as he thinks he is, I would urge him to not speak for good looking men cos if he were he wouldn't have to face that situation. I know tons of handsome men and they do amazingly well on Tinder or any other dating app. A friend got 40 likes in two days after making an account. But props to OP for the confidence.
This. I recall a psychological science study that men in general tend to overestimate their real attractiveness.
It kind of makes me cringe that I’ve seen various posts on here regarding mental masturbation why their matches won’t respond, ghosts them, etc.
The point is their match found a more handsome option.
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol, you are experienced. Just like me. I've been there myself and later came to know that they were more interested in the other guys cos they were more handsome. And I accepted the fact. I am not that good looking ok so started from there, started improving myself and I can definitely do better now but I don't expect to bang 10s looking the way I do, if it comes, I wouldn't miss on the opportunity though.
I’ve stayed long enough in the dating apps to learn people’s behavior. I’ve hooked up with doctors, actresses, lawyers, and other people from different walks of life and they all have commonalities: they felt lust and they’re not immune to good looks
The problem is most men tend to overrate their handsomeness. It means that we (men) tend ti think that we’re more handsome than we actually are.
The women we attract is the mirror of how attractive we really are. Assortative mating in the works
[–]Woujo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Everything you said is wrong.
A man change his attractiveness.
Also a man can go approach people in real life instead of whining about how online dating is so hard.
I’m not whining lmao
Attractiveness and handsomeness are completely two different things
[–]Woujo 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Your distinctions are worthless and not useful in any way.
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Why is it not useful? You just don’t know the difference.
Attractiveness is subjective whilst handsomeness is objective.
[–]Woujo 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How is it useful? I think being hot, attractive, and handsome are the same thing. Why should I think different?
The bottomline is we can do some things to bring out our handsomest version using conventional beauty/ handsomeness standard.
For example, you cannot change face symmetry but you can diet down to be lean enough to have a chiseled face. It creates an illusion as if you have more symmetrical face. Clear skin is another thing. We can do something about it
Another example is let’s say in Africa: people who have more extra weight were seen as more attractive because it means that they have access to food. In western society, lean people were perceived as more attractive because of food abundance so people who are lean are rarer
If you can change your attractiveness why you on this sub? Go to real life, change your attractiveness and start fucking bitches lol.
[–]Woujo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First of all, why are you so mad? Where is this hate coming from?
Second, I am attractive and I fuck a lot of girls. I am just here to help you losers.
Third, being attractive and having game are different. A lot of losers here think it is all attractiveness. That's wrong.
[–]CowgirlBebop575 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Obviously. The profile pic is at the center of a lot of online dating. Those that have better profile picks will have more success.
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Women in general typically browse the first 3 photos if she thinks you’re attractive. You can have good pictures but good looks is still king when it comes to capturing her attention.
[–]CowgirlBebop575 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Just get off of dating sites. You don't have to be on there to meet women.
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I honestly like it. I enjoy meeting and hooking up with different women. Dating apps offer something you can’t have in real life: meeting people from different walks of life and unlimited options to choose from.
Men who say dating apps don’t work simply don’t get any matches
[–]CowgirlBebop575 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Then what are you on about?
[–]Honest_Inevitable632 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I’m laying the fact of what to do to sell well on Tinder and other dating apps.
[–]CowgirlBebop575 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
If people aren't already doing well, they may have much better luck offline.
I’m doing very very well hence I’m ballsy enough to actually post this
[–]CowgirlBebop575 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good for you. It seems like you're bragging instead of actually giving constructive advice.
Your age helps a lot. A lot of women like older men.
But I also look really good for my age because I take care of myself well. Bragging is posting something without advice.
My advice is to be your handsomest version which is actually within everyone’s control unless you have a massive deformity.
In fact, if one is doing very well on the apps, he should do much much better irl since online standards are ridiculously high
Almost everyone would do better offline, unless they have some sort of social issue offline.
Almost every single person these days have dating apps of some sort. Dating apps offer something real life doesn’t offer: convenience, accessibility and the people on there were actually looking for something
Good looks are entry ticket to the world of dating, confidence, & personality comes much later. If you don't have the entry ticket, how are you gonna show what you got?
Exactly my point. And good looks is extremely workable; most men just have no clue what women really find attractive
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Could you elaborate on the last part
To keep it simple: women typically tells me what they find attractive: it’s either my jawline, my smile, my hair and they typically calls me pretty.
The key is creating facial harmony.
[–]dont-mind-me-chillin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In summary: “If you want her to like you then make her want you”
WOW THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! 🙏 😯 I would’ve never guessed 🤯
Reading comprehension works
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r/im14andthisisdeep
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Congratulations sir, you just pointed out the obvious
Point is you can do something about it
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