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[–]Impressive_Sport_713 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
10% success can be anything. People who have no idea what they're talking about say exact stuff like this
10% of what?? Of Numbers? Approaches? 10 numbers? 20 numbers?? 50 numbers? 50 approaches?? 100 approaches??
That literally could be anything. See how this logic doesnt work
[–]Fresh_Leek7371 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Paul janka in new York in the early 2000s had around 10% success from approaches
[–]Impressive_Sport_713 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. And paul janka said many times to beginners its a huge numbers game. For starters; you have to approach in the 100s to get dates consistently
These whole percentages isnt for the beginner/intermediates to try to understand. Percentages are for the advance and proffesionals
[–]Exmerus 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Rejection rate is really high. So high that you will rather work with the success rate. I recall reading Mystery's full post log on the original Fast Seduction from, and there's a post/comment where he talks in depth about this. He said his f-close rate was around 20%, a super number, actually. But he was a 6'5 arguably goodlooking dude with style and insane game. A 5% should great enough for a regular guy. At the end of the day, it's not about quantity, it's about quality and keeping the ones you succeed with around.
[–]Visual-Guide5473 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Watch James Tusk’s rejection compilations. He is a model looking dude who gets rejected by women.
[–]insa_max3 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I'm considered "good looking" since I've worked on my grooming and fitness, etc.
I sleep with 1 out of every 30 girl I cold approach, and I've been practicing that for years.
A total newbie with poor social skills will be more in the range of 1 for every 300-1000.
[–]Impressive_Sport_713 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
It's cold approach. It's in the name. The roi is always going to be minimal. Most guys will either be average or above average. However, the difference in the two will actually be miniscule
Ive said it many times
*It takes dozens upon dozens of approaches to get numbers consistently
*And it takes 100s of approaches to get a consistent dating life from it
I approached at the beginner phase and got just over a dozen dates. I then recently decided to run in experiment of NEW beginner statistics and started to keep track. Im at +700 approaches all documented(soon to share. Pics, texts, screenshots, dates, etc...) and the asteriks are a summary is all i will tell you
But my comments being disliked on here makes me not want to share anything with you guys. Guy gets mad because i said his 10% succes is vague with no informational true value. Will it is, that literally could mean anything
[–]CocoBabeNYC -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you know what you are doing, you only need to approach one or two women a week at most. If you don't know what you are doing you can approach a 1,000 and not get a single lay ad they say in the PUA circles.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Know what you are doing" is vague and unuseful
[–]Minty_MantisShrimp 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup
[–]CompetitionFair7686 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What matters is not how many times you get rejected, but whether you let rejection affect you or not.
Everyone gets rejected if they talk to a lot of women, it’s inevitable because you can’t be liked by everyone for various reasons like not being her type, being depressed, being in a relationship, being married, being a lesbian, not connecting, not having chemistry, being busy with career or studies, being insecure,… etc
So you need to think more in terms of; “is my self esteem intact after getting rejected?” “do i let it affect how i feel about myself” “do i take it seriously?” “how can i enjoy the process more than the outcome?”
[–]rofnacla 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
50% best case scenario(including being in a good country). Worse case = zero
[–]dobbs1997 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Looks don’t matter…a good looking guy could still get rejected a lot if he doesn’t know how to talk to a woman.
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