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Da_SnowLeopard · 2022-02-23T05:45:59+00:00

Nice rant but what you feel like doesn’t change how the dating game works. You can sulk & cry, or you can accept it for what it is.

Women LIKE mind games (wow surprise cats out the bag), women LIKE shit tests. They do it instinctively to test a man’s mental fortitude. This is very primal and you can observe this behaviour in other mammals too.

It’s how women vet for the most competent, confident and attractive men.

Either you internalize the attitude it takes to attract women (rather than call it mind games) or be doomed to get no results.

ImAAllrightGuy · 2022-02-23T06:03:13+00:00

Its a filtering mechanism for women to size up their mates.

”Are you a player?” - means they probably had been with a player before and got hurt ?”Do you say this to all the girls ?” - means they probably had been with a guy that dated around and saw her as a human flesh light

It’s not a bad thing. If you are getting a shit tested then they are seriously considering you as a potential bf. Otherwise, why would they waste the time ?

Edit

It can also help determine if you are just an act. If you act all confident and have a persona, they want to know if you are truly that person.

They probably have seen and dated guys who acted like that but turned out to be duds and fakes.

2oosra · 2022-02-23T07:22:36+00:00

You nailed it in your first sentence. Its is banter. Americans do not really use that word as much as English do. So the seduction community tried to come up with dorky and convoluted ways to breakdown and dissect the idea of banter. It is shit tests when women do it, and negs when men do it. The pickup artists who wanted to make money pretended that they invented the concept and could teach it to average guys by creating banter formulas that could be memorized.

Minute-Lie-2287 · 2022-02-23T06:17:30+00:00

When you're tired of hur hurr replies. Make them guess,

" what kind of work do you think I do?"

Her " no really just tell me"

" Just take a guess, look me over for clues"

Or

" what would make you think I'm a player?"

Or

(All the girls)

" Do you think it would work?" " Why? is it working?"

There ya go, now you're not being inauthentic, now you're making them converse, and guess who loves guessing games. Bonus, now you're taking the frame,gleaning insight and likely getting breadcrumbs.

That said, for years my game was having none, which worked fine if she was already very interested but it didn't intrigue anyone.

2022-02-23T07:39:20+00:00

It's the meta of the dating game. Adapt or get rekt.

2022-02-23T07:45:08+00:00

I think that girls are doing this subconsciously to check if the guy would be able to handle them if their hormonal behaviour would go out of control. Also for fun, to get some emotions going. But overall it is really immature behaviour, and the girl who is overusing it would not be a reliable life partner.

Flyguylycan25 · 2022-02-23T08:28:29+00:00

Shit tests are supposed to responded with shit replies jokes etc you cannot take people seriously in the first three weeks

stanthemilkman88 · 2022-02-23T04:45:56+00:00

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TheRiverOfDyx · 2022-02-23T05:24:40+00:00

Mate, I tried writing a big old essay for you, but I’ve posted plenty of those here.

I’ll put it in point form.

Women control the world, through Men. This world is a Covert Matriarchy, and they let the men think it’s an Overt Patriarchy. They even call attention to that, and never shut up about it. Never EVER considering to listen to the idea that women understand men’s minds way better than we understand them - and use that to get whatever they want from us.

KNOW that women are manipulative and controlling by nature. They’re raised to be princesses, to leverage their looks, their “niceness” to achieve that. 9/10 a girl is “being nice”, meaning faking nice. That 1/10 time, she’s actually being nice - because she’s being flirty and interested. This STILL can be a no, cuz she just uses you.

UNDERSTAND that a single mother, MY mother is quoted saying “I want you to have the best shot with women, you’re gonna be a heartbreaker. Nobody can teach you about girls better than me”. She raised me to be a simp. My own mother, who fucked about 3-4 dudes a month, of which never was in the bedroom - only the living room and I’d occasionally walk in on them by accident. All of them were Bad Boy types. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. She’s dated all three brothers of a family she knows, she’s settled now for her last bad boy type of those brothers - the baddest boy type of them all. The other two were a little childish but fit that archetype, this guy is all of it and more. Honestly, bit of a fuckin creep, imo, he’ll grab her ass at christmas parties and make sex jokes in front of kids and the whole family, including his own mother. Like…she told me all the opposites of what to do, and then went for the opposite of what she raised me to be.

So…see where I’m going with this? Women are evil, just as much AND MORE than Men, because they are manipulative in covert ways - men are generally overtly manipulative and manipulate through force. Women are indirect. Even when being direct she’ll be indirect. Try it. Test a woman on being direct, she’ll beat around the bush for 2 minutes to explain something she could have in 7 words.

Dating Game is all this because of Woman’s Game. Girls don’t got “Game” like guys got game. Girls have “Game” in that they play head games with us for weeks, months, years, then snap at us for no reason, because they’ll get away with it. She’ll be so indirect in turning you down that she’ll actually lead you on by accident and blame you for it.

So…girls…are shit. They are shitty people. The lot of them. Men too, and girls like that. They like toxic. Reminds them of their dad’s “toxicity” when all he was doing was being a proper fucking man, and did everything for her. Are you understanding me?

Seriously mate, DM me, this rabbit hole goes WAY deeper than you know. We live under a Matriarchy we aren’t even aware of. They call us dumb because they know something we don’t - they rule us, with their pussies. And laugh while doing it, they’ll blatantly show you that manipulation - and then laugh at you for trying to out them because “Silly boy, who would believe you…and who would care? We’re girls…it’s what we do. Try to keep up hun, your dummy is showing…at least you’re pretty”

I’ll never kill a woman, but, they have it coming. Women are mentally and emotionally abusive. You don’t ever hear about it though. Why? Because physical abuse. I was abused by both my mother and father, I wish I was beaten. At least people would see the injuries then. More attention direction

“Well we get beat more” “Well no, it’s a 50/50 statistic and stats show you women are more likely to be abusive in a relationship, and men are more likely to be abused in a relationship by a woman than with a man” “that doesn’t mean anything”. Bro…if a MAN was talking to you like a girl does, would you put up with his shit?! NO!!!

You’d call him out for manipulating you for so fucking long. If ALL MEN acted like women do, you’d go crazy. You would literally go insane. It’s an entire house of manipulators - why do you think women hate women?!!!!

OPEN YOUR EYESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Women are not sugar and spice and everything nice!!!!!! They are cinnamon, and they will force you to do the cinnamon challenge because they get so SO MANY kicks out of it.

Seriously, bro, be toxic. You’re not toxic for being “toxic” you’re being the equalizer. You’re putting your foot down on the foot that has been using you as a footrest FOR MILLENNIA. Old Kings always had a shit ton of manipulative wives, you think this is a NEW development? You haven’t been reading history, my friend.

Break women’s hearts. Do NOT traumatize them sexually or physically, it should go without saying. Do it Methodically. Be the bad boy, be emotionally manipulative through give and take. If you give too much she decides you’re weak. So hide your emotions, and use them sparingly to manipulate her. RUIN HER MIND. Maybe you start hearing of a rise in men returning the favour women have unleashed on us this entire time - and maybe they start to re-evaluate their method of attack because old manipulations AREN’T working anymore, and they’re getting manipulated at the same time.

A girl is never not manipulating. It’s what they do. It’s so baked into who they are as people that they aren’t manipulative anymore - they’re just women. How fucked is that?! The GREAT ones never succumb to that temptation, to use your womanly charms on a man.

Women are 100% charm, 100% of the time, for a reason. They never turn it off. The slobs do, but the slobs aren’t as sneaky in manipulating, they’re overt because they have no looks to carry their deceptions. So they go about it in a masculine way, noise and physicality. Pretty women do it in the mind, and they resort to physical if that stops working or they think you’re weak.

Don’t be weak. KILL these motherfuckers. Take their soul. Seriously, if you want to “STOP TOXICITY!” then you need to stop being a nice guy and wishing for a dating world that respects being nice. It would be lovely, that’s a utopia. UTOPIAS NEVER EXIST. Your only way to be a proper good guy that girls want is to be a bad guy. Be blatant about it. “You’re being mean” “I don’t give a shit, I’m not even being mean anyway”. Seriously. Be a dick. There’s always a bigger dick out there, you being dickish won’t make you the biggest dick in the world. It makes you normal. Being nice makes you abnormal and weird, to girls…because they’re fucking stupid and want EXCITEMENT AND PASSION over a good guy who can give them everything and worship them wholeheartedly as if she were his own mother, given EVERYTHING she wants. She won’t have it…it’s too easy.

Women want to be treated badly, we didn’t decide that as men, THEY did. Capitalism says that the market will give what the market demands, if everyone’s buying Pepsi over Coke well obviously the People want Pepsi

Be an asshole. You won’t be an asshole for being an asshole. Be an asshole. You’ll be cool in the eyes of girls. BE AN ASSHOLE.

theseoulplayer · 2022-02-23T07:37:17+00:00

You're looking at this the wrong way. Shit tests and mind games and the like aren't as big of a deal as you're making them out to be, and if you're being incongruent then you're going to fail them.

The fact is that you're bringing some sort of value proposition to the table whenever you're proposing a relationship with a woman, whether it's a one-night gig or LTR leading to marriage. You need to figure out what that value is and how you can demonstrate that. Maybe you're the fun and entertaining guy who will never leave her bored. Cool, crack jokes. Maybe you're the strong type that doesn't say much but provides money and security. Cool, silently stare down her shit tests. Whatever your value is, you need to be demonstrating it, shit test or not.

Now, you might be thinking to yourself, "Why do I need to have a value proposition? I just want a basic human connection!" Cool. Cool cool cool. Now there's literally nothing differentiating you from every single other man on the planet. If you're a 9+ in the looks or schlong department, maybe this can work for you. Otherwise, it's a miserably failing strategy.

See, the point of these so-called shit tests is just to check and see if you're congruent. You've been acting aloof, but then you get all flustered by her asking about your job? Poser. You showed up with witty lines ready to go, so good that they might be canned, and then you freeze like a deer in headlights when she throws one back at you? Poser. She's just making sure that you really are the person you say you are with the value you are trying to demonstrate.

Be congruent. Be real. Have value. No shit tests.

Important-Quote9544 · 2022-02-23T08:35:22+00:00

Shit tests arent a thing if she is into you.

daemon86 · 2022-02-23T10:02:26+00:00

You don't have to make up anything. If you are proud of your life, you are confident with it. Just don't apologize or make yourself look bad

saryiahan · 2022-02-23T10:48:57+00:00

Just call them out on it. I’m stopped giving af. Like if a girl asks if I’m a player I straight up ask if that was a shit test followed up by I’m spending my time,which I will never get, with you to get to know you. Why are you playing stupid mind games?

Captain_brownbeard · 2022-02-23T14:47:23+00:00

I feel where you are coming from but there are ways to throw the shit test in their face. With enough practice you will get there and you can do it within literally like 2-3 answers. Then they themselves turn the conversation serious.

UnPoquitoSuerte · 2022-02-23T16:27:13+00:00

You ever see Nat Geo with those rams that head butt each other into oblivion and the winner takes all?

Yea-I’m going to take the shit test path.

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