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I've looked through his channel, he barely has any infield footages compared to pickupalpha who has tons of infield footages of himself and of his students.

Those pickup terms you state are considered game and anybody can regurgitate these terms but can they act on it? I haven't seen an overwhelming amount of evidence from John "I buy escorts" Anthony.

Dude who fucking cares about what these coaches claim their lay counts to be. There's no way to fucking verify any of it. Pickupalpha can claim a lay count of 200 or 2000, you cant verify it. John Anthony claims 1300.... ok? How the fuck do I know that's the truth? Like this is so irrelevant. This is why I look for coaches with TONS of CONSISTENT infield footage of themselves or their students.

Bro you didn't even watch that video I sent you huh? That video has an audio recording of John Anthony himself admitting that he's a fucking loser. His escort brazilian GF physically beats him and cheats on him LOL.... He uses seekingarrangement for sugarbabies.

[–]BrummieAMN19 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Seriously? The bloke does infield QnA breakdowns and has shown proof of his women in great detail over on YT and Instagram lol you just skimmed over his channel. Meanwhile that fraud you're banging on about doesn't even like to approach girls LMAO and would rather play video games who claims 100% lay rate in his programmes. When he does want to he only relies of looks, great "game" right there.

So you have basically agreed with the premise of JMULVs game but for some reason, you want to argue otherwise. You are right that not many people take action in game, it's like how people buy a gym membership but the vast majority will not achieve their goals due to a lack of consistency. However the right type of action is needed as well, you cannot do nice guy beta approaches and expect great results. Go and watch more of his videos and what he teaches then its blatantly obvious you come from a biased view of him maybe because he roasted your idol. No no no laycount is extremely important what the hell are you talking about? No wonder this community is full of fakes being given a pass, it's the joint-second most important metric in assessing a PUAs ability. It's easily verifiable as well by the women they post and how they act around them. Plus doing this and actually approaching you recognise game from other guys and I can confirm Playing With Fire, JMULV, Coach Kyle, Honest Signalz and Bradicus are the very few guys that are legit just from their demenaor and vibe. You cannot claim to get women and coach people with a lay count of less than 110. It's like that BS RSD saying of "trust the process don't focus on the results". That shows you're not qualified to give advice as you simply do not have enough experience under your belt. And by that answer, you've just given you're not so confident yourself that PA is legit.

I watched that video months ago and it's hilarious how you don't care about MLD being a massive POS and is actually the real scammer who stole John's product and sold it at an extortionate rate but because he "exposed" John it's totally fine by you. Whatever suits your agenda. You'll see when that guy gets sued for slander but you'll probably try and make an excuse. The majority of that video is MLD just going after his alcoholism NOT his ability to pick up women on a consistent scale. All the screenshots shown were all fabricated proven by Coffezilla. Lol that phone call he had basically proved his credibility as he did mention in that conversation it was over him shagging some girl. Nah he cheated on her not the other way around now you're just making stuff up.

[–]5_7pickup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]BrummieAMN190 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I meant as in watch his pickup videos not his roasts(which are fully deserved btw). Unless you just want to disagree just for the sake of disagreeing. LMAO there's countless of testimonies of RSD on here and on YouTube of them doing unethical practices it's not just John, them admitting they have a 1% student success rate and you're telling me they're a legit company? HAHAHA from Spencer Cornelia to former RSD employees including your idol Todd V have all bashed that dogshit company. John Elite (another legit guy) goes into the most depth on why RSDs teachings are garbage. Do you think a company that promoted looks don't matter nonsense should be taken seriously? RSD Tyler DOES NOT have good game whatsoever LOOOOOOL you've been fooled by his marketing tactics and blatant editing of infield said no guy who is good with women. I can definitely tell now you don't get laid much if at all if you believe that guy has game. Todd V is okay for canned lines and if you want to learn theory woo woo nonsense rather than practical advice otherwise he's far too complicated, shit vocal tonality, feminine mannerisms, has hilariously cringe infield and been exposed for paid actresses, and claims to his audience that he pulls stunners yet he has a partner whose a 5 at best and has a kid with him. He also does that trick where he gets into a cab with a girl and claims it's a "pull" like those money grabbing bastards RSD does. No man like him who supported RSDs BS claims but only for him to denounce them all just for a new grift is a man worth following.

Lol so you wouldn't mind a guy who is a virgin to teach you how to pick up women so as long as he had infield that is "convincing" enough? Great research you do right there. Are you hearing what you're saying? How can you state your techniques and tactics if you haven't put them into practice and can't confidently state how many women you've slept with as a result of your methods?

That's the bloke who made the video who stole John's product and has ZERO receipts. That gf of his has been on Brazillian TV and is an engineer, he showed proof of the TV broadcast on one of his videos, there's always two sides to every story. It was the other way around that guy's never been cucked but he did cheat on her and they had a rocky start cause of his lifestyle but keep on coping.

Cope. Nah not really, you have a problem with the fact that I actually got exceptional results which I described in great detail with the framework he provides for text game and cold approach that's why you sperged out and made standard NPC slander claims that have been disproven because it doesn't match up to your reality. Yet you're actively promoting scammers, thinking RSD is actually a good dating company and couldn't answer with confidence whether they get attractive women lmao. What's ironic is that don't mention his name on here, just his strategies and everyone's in agreement it works on this site says it all lmao. You're just some sheep. I derive all techniques and methods and then adjust it towards my personality and game so I'm congruent as possible when approaching women. It clearly does otherwise you wouldn't have responded at all with your cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics. Maybe you'll learn once you get out of a laycount of more than 3 you'll see the truth, learn and stop crying over those who are better than you.

[–]5_7pickup1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]BrummieAMN190 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Nah I just type very quickly which just ends up being a massive essay. Yeah because you have zero counter arguments to what I’m saying lol (hence why you ain’t said anything about Pickup Alpha since because you know I’m right+ the importance of laycount) and you are not seeing this from a rational standpoint. Don’t be condescending and having a superiority complex because your whole worldview is shattered then.

Hang on, so Todd V who has been caught faking infields by paid actresses, constantly gets blown out(no ending the infield in a taxi does not count as a pull) and has an ugly partner is the best at game? He’s only decent for canned lines to get started for total beginners but cold reading and his version of push pull and negging is retarded and no serious player would be doing that crap since it comes from the wrong frame. Lol a 1% success rate from those who take RSD products but it’s okay cause they do life coaching. They constantly pitch sell their products and when you fail they make you buy another one, do you really think a human being needs 30-40 products just to know body language and talking to girls? After what you’ve said you don’t have a high laycount at all and anything you say is pretty much redundant. Imagine thinking RSD is legit LOL.

I’ve seen some of your reports and you have had an average start but that’s in spite of Todd Vs game rather than because of it. You struggle to objection handle and you do not isolate the girl within the first few minutes of the interaction in the ones you’ve failed at. If you’re doing a quick nightgame set you should spend no more than 5 minutes getting 15 phone numbers maximum and setting up dates there and then, if it’s daygame just approach the most attractive woman you see and figure out her logistics to see whether it’s possible for a date. That’s calm I’ll post my results on cold approach once I figure out how to lay it out properly. Idk if I’m allowed to post my Tinder, Hinge and Bumble LRs by the mods but if so I’ll do so as well if it’s permitted.

Well no, I recommended people who are the best at the game and who I have gotten the BEST results from and here’s you crying using NPC arguments but because you’re so stubborn in your worldview and have shown the full context to the contrary you still want to cry. Yeah on a forum where one guy asked who is a virgin on here and it had 400+ comments and is full of questions like “We’ve been speaking for four months but I haven’t asked her on a date, does she like me” or “How do I approach” LOL okay only three people on here I’ve seen actually get women on here consistently and definitely have a high laycount. Yes two people is “tons” of people and they’re all baseless claims and condescendingly trying to tell me it doesn’t work when I’ve tested it myself, how the fuck is isolation not going to work for example or using plausible deniability lol. Even in your post history you use DHVs which he emphasises but yes it’s “bad” game, meanwhile Pickup “I don’t like to approach girls” Alpha got roasted on cringe pickup compilations LOL. I’ve told you I used his text game personally combined with PWF and I’m smashing it on Tinder, Hinge and Bumble+ IRL approaches despite morons on here thinking you have to be some 6”4 white guy and just exist. I like you was once very skeptical about him but I’ve used most of his methods and they have worked. You didn’t mention any of the other guys just John and you’re wondering why we’re discussing about him? Low IQ. And look at your post history, bitching about OLD and discouraging others not to do it just because you put zero effort into it and failed yourself.

Yes you do, otherwise you wouldn’t have commented with mental gymnastics and/or fucked off a long time ago with your single digit laycount lmao.

[–]5_7pickup3 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]BrummieAMN190 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Nah you don't because I am right that's why you're arguing like a woman now "you're not worth my time" lmao. Who's the one that came onto my comment? Who's the one that's always replying? Me being a very fast typer on my phone and spacing it out is not "investment" I just have a huge stream of consciousness that's all and you spout BS unless you're some boomer with arthritis.

One question. What's your lifetime laycount? Any dodging of the question or if it's low will tell me everything. Don't worry, once I've figured a layout and how to post screenshots of my results I'll be posting consistently. Nah I generally scroll my TL and then comment advice for newbies since a lot of guys here are just starting out (except for 3 I've seen) and I am new to the app so I'll be branching out to non-dating communities soon of my own interest.

Cognitive dissonance once again, I just told you what you've said isn't true and stated objective facts you just choose to ignore it as you're agenda driven. Says the one who fanboys RSD and Todd V and falsely tell people to watch those retards.

[–]5_7pickup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]BrummieAMN19 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Nah JMULV is legit, I’ve used his objection handling and testing for compliance which he says will always come up which has happened to me whenever I’m doing nightgame and dates as the majority of your interactions with women are not a straight line and you need to know how to deal with them, isolation techniques, DHVs and decision closing as he’s spot on for setting up a date there and then rather than building it all up again and for texting his text game combined with PWF is phenomenal for OLD and meeting a girl off cold approach. The guy really does make game very very simple and doesn’t make it out to be this advanced concept like Quantum Physics like some guys do in order to keep you in a hamster wheel and scam you out of more products (ie RSD, Todd V, Natural Lifestyles). Plus the consistency of his stories and the bedroom tips he gives if you listen closely is something you can’t really make up. Those “exposed” videos he’s already responded to it’s baseless slander and proven to be fake screenshots.

I don’t know who that guy is tbh, what’s his laycount and how many infields does he post and are the women he pulls objectively attractive?

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[–]BrummieAMN19 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah like I’ve said to the previous guy I have personally used his compliance, DHVs, false time constraints and non compliance model in both texting and in person approaching and they’ve worked extremely well on top of objection handling which the majority of no clue on how to deal with them and he was spot on in the ones that do come up as I’ve had 7 consistently come up when interacting with women which I’ve handled successfully. The best game does not have to be flashy or gimmicky it really is a very very simple process as he emphasises. Getting as many leads as possible and setting up as many dates as possible>>>>

Also the average guy does NOT run game like John Anthony they all do nice guy risk adverse approaches, never bother isolating the girl and do not state their intent enough or they have zero balls and just stand in the corner with their mates at the club or bar. And they wait until the end of the night to make a standard AFC approach. Already addressed that claim along with the false hooker allegation, it’s just slander cause he and other guys exposed scam operations and regardless in his videos it’s obvious they’ve been together for awhile on top of his consistent stories.

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