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[–]mogonk 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You're not attractive.
You break the cycle by becoming more attractive or getting used to the fact that you aren't attractive.
There is no magic trick that will make women want to sleep with you.
[–]Cocky_Douchebag 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's a lot more to seduction and attraction than that. For all we know this guys social mannerisms could be weird af.
[–]townofonett 9 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Not great advice imo. There's a million other factors to account for before attractiveness...not say it isn't a factor or shouldn't be improved.
[–]Crissa90 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree. Sure, attraction plays a role, but what about the other factors?
[–]RPSigmaStigma 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
What do you look like?
[–]Sierraman 9 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
I'll send you a PM.
[–]RPSigmaStigma 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ok dude. I'm going to be blunt, so take this as serious constructive feedback.
You look like gay. But there's hope! Firstly, fix your hair. Grow it a bit longer and find a good gay barber/stylist. Tell him you want to look good for the ladies. Create a throwaway account and post a few pics to /r/malefashionadvice.
Secondly, even though your pic is just neck-up, I can tell you are scrawny as fuck. Get a gym membership and Google "stronglifts 5x5". You're never going to get anywhere as a doe-eyed, soft-faced pencil-neck.
Anyway, I'm on mobile, but I'll try to come back later with some links and stuff later. Good luck bro.
[–]tajbinjohn 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Improving looks is always good but that's not his biggest problem. I know dudes that wear cargo shorts and pull. I met a guy who wears fucking skirts and pulls. Mystery, one of the greatest PUAs in history, would consistently pull with mascara, heels and black nail polish.
There's more to this shit than looks
[–]RPSigmaStigma 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, I definitely agree that there's more to it than looks, but A) you didn't see OP's pic, and B) when you have women literally running away from you, it's not for a simple lack of game.
In fact, OP would probably have better luck if he wore mascara and black nail polish. That works because it makes you fascinatingly unique and "out there". OP just looks meek, scared, twerpy and a bit like Brock Turner with an even skinnier neck.
[–]Crissa90 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also, not every guy is capable of bulking. For example, I knew a guy who had a heart condition as a child, and wasn't ever able to get ripped. He was always scrawny, but he ended up marrying a beautiful lady all the same. Exuding confidence and strong social skills is huge.
[–]Idontlikekarmawhores 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Send me one too
[–]Overnight_Delivery 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If I am assertive right away and express interest in dating, then I am moving things too fast, too soon
How do you know you are moving too fast too soon? They tell you this? Normally if they are telling you or making that clear then they are letting you know that they like you and this is what you need to adjust with them individually. However if you are just concluding this then quit concluding shit, it's not your place to decide when, if and how they like you.
From what I can tell normally you have to establish that you're having a sexual / relational relationship extremely early after meeting a girl (or at least early over your collective "real" exposure to each other). That doesn't mean you have to whip it out after 5 minutes but you need to never break that you could and then that you are relational / sexual with each other. Imo you're better off just going pretty bold on new girls until you are calibrated and randomly some start reciprocating.
But if I go slow, then I am "playing games" being "confusing" and being a stereotypical "nice guy."
This is actually good, it means they liked you but you were too slow and you went in and out of breaking that you were relational / sexual and not with them.
[–]monkeyman114 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Make use of that female friend. Go out on a fake date and have her evaluate what you are doing wrong. You may be surprised what is putting you in the friend zone.
[–]Sierraman 9 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link
"Have her evaluate what you are doing wrong."
What??
As in, have her tell you when you say or do something a female would get turned off by.
[–]SeedGoose1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is bullshit. Don't take her advice seriously if you were to do it. Don't ask a fish how to fish. That said, it's a great idea to go on a fake date. You'll not be completely in the dark when you have your first real date. Learn to relax and get used to talking to a girl one on one in a date setting.
Good luck, you can do it.
[–]Cocky_Douchebag -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Maybe you're just dumb
[–]Sierraman 9 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Do you want to give actual advice rather than resorting to personal attacks?
[–]Cocky_Douchebag 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
It's less about who you are , it's more about how you act man. You need to do more than be more "interesting", displaying higher value, alpha traits, being funny, flirty, attractive, knowing how to escalate with women. It's about taking that leap of courage and doing certain things, also being smooth when doing all of these things.
I'd say it seems like you're on the right track, but the thing about being " forward " or " slow " is you don't want to be either one, a good mix of being forward when it matters and backing off when you need to is key. Also stop calling it a crush, you're a grown ass man, it's a woman you're attracted to.
He is, a cocky douchebag after all. What did you expect?
[–]ADP_God 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm starting to realise that most of pulling is nothing to do with what you actually do. Make sure you're fit and dressed like a normal person, but not dressed up like a lot of guides will tell you to. Just dress normally, in clothes that you think good on you. If you're unsure about this just look at what other people who pull are wearing. After this just talk to them and make your intentions clear from the start with every girl you meet. Don't express your feelings for them so late. They should be hanging out with you knowing you want them and so they will be questioning themselves as to whether or not they life you back. Sometimes it will be a not, but sometimes they'll think to themselves "yeah actually I could go for this guy," and when that happens you're in there like swimwear.
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