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Most girls get more turned on by turning you on than they do you turning them on. So for some girls you can get by almost entirely just by getting good at letting them know how sexy they are etc.
/r/seduction29/03/17 02:53 AM
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You can be in a club and not drink. There will actually always be a few girls who also don't drink or only have like one. The problem isn't that you can't approach and have the same energy etc, it's that you can't relate to a crowd of everyone being sloshed. Even if you start connecting with a girl you just won't relate because she's sloshed. Best yet to have just one drink. Or better yet have no drinks until she buys you one, they pay the whole tab when you take her home. So far in my experienc…
/r/seduction25/03/17 04:49 AM
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unfortunately you can not approach with the mindset simply that "I am shy, you are shy, therefor we should skip everything and just hook up". However there are MOST DEFINITELY many girls who are shy and pretty helpless so so long as you try and are straight forward then she'll try and be straight forward and it will work out pretty simply and you'll relate easily. I actually found just recently a great response to "are you shy? you seem shy" Is to grab her hand or put your hand on her waist etc …
/r/seduction25/03/17 04:37 AM
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ya this is the right place, just eventually you want to have the mindset of people like in r/sex etc.
/r/seduction17/03/17 04:30 AM
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Most girls in college won't even let you have sex with them unless you make it clear it's only casual.
/r/seduction16/03/17 09:09 PM
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I agree that you probably won't get anywhere if you are still coming to this forum. It is a crutch. However it will definitely tell you what you need to do.
/r/seduction16/03/17 01:55 PM
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The first text was stupid but the second one was good. Just let it wait.
/r/seduction14/03/17 07:35 PM
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Honestly I don't get "shit tested" that often anymore. I think if you eventually get regular with honest approaches you don't see them as shit tests or just don't get shit tested anymore. Once they trust you as honest they don't try to test you anymore, they are just trying to make a connection and see if you're both compatible.
/r/seduction13/03/17 06:53 AM
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I would actually recommend NOT plaguing your mind with all the pickup stuff and just do what you know you need to do.
/r/seduction13/03/17 06:50 AM
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It's like learning a language. The only way you'll remember it is by practicing it.
/r/seduction13/03/17 02:34 AM
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Women never at any point just decide I'll have sex with a guy no matter what happens from here out. Just because she screamed I want your number is really no different than if she was just quietly waiting for the bus, you still have to game her the entire way.
/r/seduction13/03/17 01:55 AM
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What is a typical closing time for you? I should try to close within 15 minutes? From what I gathered here the typical time frame is 1 to 2 hours, anything before that is just random.
/r/seduction13/03/17 01:10 AM
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I'm only interested in what is possible in a single meet right now. I already have some numbers. I might follow up with them if I declare anything in a single meet is impossible.
/r/seduction13/03/17 12:47 AM
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fascinating so most girls try the bar for hook up and then determine it is a bad place for it? I guess that is because it is a bullshit high energy scene and most people just want to hook up one on one.
/r/seduction13/03/17 12:06 AM
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lol that is just pregame ramp up. If I can't yell aw shit this aint sesame street in the street and get out of my head how am I supposed to make bold moves at the club? Probably better if I sing in the streets instead.
/r/seduction12/03/17 11:52 PM
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I think one of my main issues is I am misunderstood. I think I'm conveying myself but I'm not. I really need to make a list of all the things I need to convey and then make sure I convey those when approaching a girl. Why don't you think this is a true story?
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:51 PM
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Compared to r/sex and even r/hookers that have a fair amount of females I think the issue here is maturity. There are a lot of guys here immature about the process and are misogynistic. That is probably the main turn off for women. Also there is A LOT of cognitive dissonance. Stuff that works often gets down voted here because it's not the way people WANT it to work, and a lot of women get attacked out because they come in basically willing to hook up and be a friend and that breaks people's bel…
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:43 PM
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So you're saying the bars and clubs are actually a bad place to hook up at?
/r/seduction12/03/17 08:37 PM
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One thing I don't get is why do girls go to a bar but then want there to be some super deep intimate connection and relationship and like the person? I'm definitely not saying hook up with someone you aren't liking but how much can you do in one or two hours? The expectations are unrealistic, it's like it devolves to people trying to find relationships. Where are people supposed to go who just want to hook up? Hooking up is super difficult even if both are trying their hardest to make it easy.
/r/seduction12/03/17 08:15 PM
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Ya but you got to play out a whole interaction which got you momentum for all the sets afterwards.
/r/seduction12/03/17 07:49 PM
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Awesome that you took the first approach to the death. ”Cool. ‘Cos i’m super white….I can’t dance….I’m good at math.” I was thinking to try this, interject with something about my boring life as a "fuck it" (but not in a boring way). Kind of in a way that is funny because it is exactly what you shouldn't do. I think your night was a lot like my friday night. You weren't really overwhelmed by her but you could do the moves, but it wasn't really taking off.
/r/seduction12/03/17 07:22 PM
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Possibly
/r/seduction11/03/17 11:13 PM
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I've "just asked" many times it doesn't work. However they might as well try to find out, anything could work for anyone.
/r/seduction11/03/17 11:12 PM
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How is this a common trend though? Not doing something after three years, by it's very nature, is rare.
/r/seduction11/03/17 08:47 PM
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I found just asking NEVER works. You just have to grab her and pull her out.
/r/seduction11/03/17 08:44 PM
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I don't ask them if they've been here often or even allude to it. Then when I'm like holy shit three years what made you choose today! It's obviously a lie, they could have been here just two weeks ago based on how they're acting. I just noticed a trend, trying to figure out what it means.
/r/seduction11/03/17 08:40 PM
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Ya it seems like this is an IOI and it's a lie that is commonly said.
/r/seduction11/03/17 08:11 PM
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I've had more than 50% of the girls say the same thing and when I chat about it it's obvious it's a lie. I always find it crazy, "you haven't been here for YEARS and I just got you TONIGHT! Holy shit!"
/r/seduction11/03/17 07:33 PM
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How does it normally go for you? Clubs can have different vibes for the night. That night nobody might have been hooking up.
/r/seduction11/03/17 07:31 PM
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You can only do your half of the effort to make it work with a girl. Just focus on making your half as good as possible. It'll require her to also do her half in order for it to work.
/r/seduction11/03/17 11:21 AM
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Bar scenes have the problem where even if you have good sober game you just don't relate to anyone anymore because they're drunk. Being able to relate is a big part of the game.
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:53 AM
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Daily continually bad environments can destroy your game whether it be at home or work.
/r/seduction11/03/17 01:59 AM
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Whether you approach or not you have to own your decision. If you decided not to approach then OWN that you didn't approach. OWN the reason that you didn't approach. Letting one missed opportunity destroy you is a thousand times worse than just owning that you didn't approach one single girl.
/r/seduction11/03/17 01:50 AM
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The last ones are damn good.
/r/seduction11/03/17 01:12 AM
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I've found that for pickup to have reasonable success rates you HAVE to be in a zone. For me any group class like public meditation, yoga, dance class (hip hop or tango) will put me in the zone. The other thing that will put me in the zone is any pro visit. Otherwise if you have any girls you flirt with regularly give them a call (any cashiers you always flirt with?). The most difficult route is using girls you are attempting at to get in the zone.
/r/seduction11/03/17 01:07 AM
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Risks are low. Also HIV is controlled and super rare. You might also be old enough where you'd rather live your life.
/r/seduction11/03/17 12:59 AM
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If you do ping just let it be if she doesn't respond. Don't text more than twice. Don't make it too short but don't make it needy. Focus on making her feel better with your attention, not getting validation for yourself. The longer she doesn't respond the more endearing it will be for her when she does. Make sure you frame your two texts so that it is something you would feel good about her not responding immediately to, if she had to.
/r/seduction11/03/17 12:54 AM
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mix in a few wins with the pro's so you know what it looks like. Go get a $20 20 minute both sides massage before you go to the club. Start taking hip hop classes.
/r/seduction10/03/17 09:34 PM
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Need to try different venues and more hobbys. Libraries, coffee shops, malls, beaches, meetups, dance classes, yoga, MMA, improv, find some girls to learn a second language with.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:40 PM
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You've only sexted once and never talked on the phone or met? I would just let it go silent, maybe ping how her vacation is going at some point. If you catch her bored in her room by herself I'd push for an actual phone call. Technically if you've only sexted you don't even know if she's actually a dude yet.
/r/seduction10/03/17 07:22 AM
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Exactly this, if you make your focus how she feels then it never matters "if you are good enough".
/r/seduction10/03/17 07:14 AM
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It's all about momentum and "fuck it".
/r/seduction10/03/17 07:10 AM
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I would imagine one that is low to the ground is less likely to make noise.
/r/seduction10/03/17 07:09 AM
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would be better if instead of asking her what she would be teasing you about instead, give a suggestion for what she'd be teasing you about instead. "Ya, I bet next you're going to be teasing me that my cock is too big" In improv don't ask questions, this puts the burden of creativity on the other person, just give whatever answer came to your mind. If you're asking the question, you should already know a few answers.
/r/seduction10/03/17 04:24 AM
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Allow yourself to fail. You're a lot farther and closer to the goal than you think.
/r/seduction10/03/17 12:20 AM
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My impression is, if you can manage to keep a conversation going 30+ minutes with a sexual undertone / connection then you'll be pretty guaranteed to escalate it to something else. If you can do it for an hour or two then you can pretty much ask her home. The type of experience you describe is a pro experience. You should seriously look in to cam / AMP etc.
/r/seduction05/03/17 08:48 PM
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I need a standardized opener myself. To my understanding even if you had a standardized opener you'd have to genuinely believe every time you used it it was your first.
/r/seduction05/03/17 08:42 PM
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ya so I able to talk about it.
/r/seduction05/03/17 08:40 PM
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Who you are is how you react to different things. So the only way is to go out doing what you want to do, seeing what the results are and then seeing what your reaction is.
/r/seduction04/03/17 11:47 PM
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I found the best openers are something totally stupid that you can legitimately follow up on. IE this got the girl getting off at the same stop as me - "You are going to the board game meetup too!?!"
/r/seduction04/03/17 11:41 PM
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I might be interested in going out tomorrow night.
/r/seduction04/03/17 07:46 AM
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Where do you even find any? I'm assuming most aren't very attractive.
/r/seduction03/03/17 04:16 PM
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The fastest way to learn game and get in a hook up mindset is to practice seduction with the pros.
/r/seduction23/02/17 10:27 PM
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It's succeeding
/r/seduction23/02/17 08:22 PM
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seduce a girl on xhamsterlive.com, group meditation, yoga, hip hop class, tango class.
/r/seduction23/02/17 07:55 PM
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This sub isn't really about getting a girlfriend and most guys looking for a girlfriend aren't looking to just seduce her.
/r/seduction22/02/17 04:51 PM
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So you're asking if someone disadvantaged had success without putting in a ton of effort to overcome it? The better chances are they need to find a girl with similar disadvantages.
/r/seduction21/02/17 04:43 PM
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This is in Center City though. I don't know about the suburbs. Center City is extremely cosmopolitan.
/r/seduction20/02/17 01:48 PM
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Actually I've seen it happen many times. I've been out gamed by indians a lot. However those indians had a lot of game.
/r/seduction20/02/17 02:27 AM
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I've seen a lot of indian guys do really well in Philadelphia.
/r/seduction20/02/17 12:13 AM
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MindsEvolve gives a lot of great advice with each PM post. Maybe what would be better is to give MindsEvolve a "marketer" flair and then anyone who has a marketer flair is not allowed to self promote, only give advice etc.
/r/seduction20/02/17 12:08 AM
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15: On your Corporate Job This exactly. Software engineering jobs are loaded with misogynistics who are always trying to impose themselves and make everyone else out to be stupid and prove themselves genius. Everything about this is destructive if you are someone who plays the game. I think everyone there is great people but if you are trying to maintain your vibe etc sometimes you are forced to dissociate.
/r/seduction19/02/17 10:13 PM
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EXACTLY WTF
/r/seduction19/02/17 09:52 PM
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triggered much? thanks for the shame post.
/r/seduction19/02/17 09:47 PM
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If you want the talent to "fuck a girl within an hour on the street" you have to log all your approaches to evaluate and see where you need to make changes, what is working etc.
/r/seduction19/02/17 09:40 PM
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Traveling is awesome but pickup culture can vary city to city. Picking up is going to be totally different on bourbon street where you can just ask a girl to show you her tits vs some small town.
/r/seduction03/02/17 10:15 PM
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lol like 2pm, 7pm, friday etc
/r/seduction03/02/17 03:52 AM
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At some point in the conversation she is going to give up on the idea that you are going to ask her out. Ask her before that moment. The problem isn't that your asking for her to give the time or you, it's that you're asking her to do the relationship building. You are approaching her, you need to do the relationship building. You could easily say both, you could ask whenever is free for her and then just give off a few times. Your main conveyance should be that you want to fuck her, not that yo…
/r/seduction03/02/17 01:27 AM
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Does this normally work "If you would like to/want we can get coffee sometime/this week"? I would say imagine if you were already 2 days in and you were certain she was going to keep going out with you for 2 more days. Would you say to a girl you've already been seeing two days "If you would like to/want we can get coffee sometime/this week" or would you say "You wanna get some coffee with me at 5?". It's okay to make timing etc assumptions wrong. It's fun to hash what is right. Imagining that y…
/r/seduction02/02/17 10:26 PM
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Try to avoid saying stuff like sometime if you can. It's actually better to give some silly suggestion and then just let the real time plan out. An improv technique would be to give as many details as possible. "Do you wanna go out at 2 pm, right after I get out of class, tomorrow, to specific nearby coffee place, to get a small pumpkin banana cappuccino, then sit at the stools with me because all the tables are taken?". Then if she says I'm not available at 2 pm! Then make another silly suggest…
/r/seduction02/02/17 07:48 PM
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Sounds like it was good exposure for what was possible at the time. Sounds like you are planning unconfident business talk with a number ask at the end though. You should go up owning your approach and asking her on a date not a number. Like they say flirt like you fuck.
/r/seduction01/02/17 09:59 PM
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Was this over text? You should never advance things (the first time) sexually over text. If you do, only one step forward.
/r/seduction01/02/17 09:49 PM
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So far I've figured out the difference is business questions run down facts and what you need to be doing is eliciting feelings, teasing etc. I think one thing people don't notice is asking her business questions not only bores / turns off her but it also bores / turns off you.
/r/seduction01/02/17 08:26 PM
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I think of it more as look for IOIs to see if you are at current states so you can make certain moves. Then if those moves don't work then you haven't covered enough bases ie: need more raport, or she doesn't do certain stuff in a first meet etc.
/r/seduction01/02/17 07:57 PM
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Seddit right now is like a martial arts gym where a bunch of people who don't know what they are doing get in and then just sit in a circle. They don't even know what to do let alone who to guide / teach. Aside from mentioning the idea of FR's there is no guidance / structure here. I think seddit should focus mainly on catering to and keeping vets even if at the expense of noobs. I'd like to see more FRs and more people responding to advanced questions etc. I think seduction should consider narr…
/r/seduction01/02/17 07:47 PM
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Why is this down voted this is awesome
/r/seduction26/01/17 11:00 PM
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You shouldn't take her words too literally. I actually never register a signal as "you're pushing it too far" but instead "it's not managing to work at the moment".
/r/seduction26/01/17 10:49 PM
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Depends what you want to do. You just want to get another girlfriend, or have 5 girlfriends at once, a new girl every night?
/r/seduction26/01/17 10:44 PM
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Got a waitress to agree to kiss my friend at 12 at new years and she gave us free shots. Did by just being in sync with her sexually when she visited the table, didn't move out of her way when she went to put stuff on the table to have her intentionally brush up, didn't miss a chance to touch hands if giving me a drink etc, flirted anything I could then just asked her if she knew where my friend could get a kiss at 12 and she said her.
/r/seduction25/01/17 09:49 PM
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Might be location, mannheim is a college town that is walkable. Every weekend there turns in to a party in the streets.
/r/seduction25/01/17 08:50 PM
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get on omegle and practice and actually SING it.
/r/seduction25/01/17 07:33 PM
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This is my issue at the moment. I decided to just shut down anything seduction until I get at least a week ahead on homework. There isn't much point when seduction requires momentum and it's destroyed with five nights of non stop homework with one day breaks in between. It's hard to go out with the frustration that I still have like 20 hours of work to do, 15 hours to do it and I'll have to totally ignore any girl I meet outside of that night anyways. However both the book Models and No More Mr …
/r/seduction25/01/17 07:24 PM
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this is how you did it - "fuck it I'll try to isolate her and kiss her" You'll never succeed for the night if you don't hit that "fuck it I'll try" moment.
/r/seduction25/01/17 07:17 PM
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I would recommend the gym all muscle groups only twice a week and a hip hop class for fitness. In my experience infrequent trips to the gym actually provide better results than regular every other day or third day. My guess is because frequent trips to the gym cause your body to get used to it and adjust otherwise infrequent keeps freaking it out and eating a lot of fat.
/r/seduction25/01/17 07:13 PM
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Girls actually do approach you probably just don't notice it or know how to do anything with it. If you want to play out what a miracle approach would look like go to a strip club with at least $50 and take a seat at the bar and see how you would actually handle it.
/r/seduction25/01/17 07:00 PM
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Neediness is only a problem if you are not earning what you need. Neediness is when you demand something without earning it, get denied and then continue to demand it "because you need it".
/r/seduction24/01/17 08:21 PM
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this sub needs to start catering to the mid / advanced than the beginner. starting to notice r/sex, r/hookers and even r/adultery is a better place to look for the right mindset and FR's.
/r/seduction23/01/17 08:05 PM
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lol I read some. some was actually pretty cool. it talked about from experience convincing / seducing girls to let him be his pimp. And the process of slowly turning a girl in to a pro, through escalating exposure like starting her out as the door girl at a strip club then one day grabbing her tit and pulling it out and that she would be shocked but ultimately realize it was no big deal. And then now that she was on the other side of something like that happening she was open to new things.
/r/seduction23/01/17 03:24 AM
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that book is seriously fucked up. It was cool until the violence.
/r/seduction22/01/17 08:05 PM
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if you are good at entertaining then just throw in random sexual things every once and awhile. if you want to get good at seducing you should practice seducing cam and phone girls and strippers at the bar, because the tables are turned there. When seducing cam, phone and strippers at the bar they primarily want you to be seducing them and entertaining secondly. they will ignore you if you're not managing to seduce (however they'll help you manage to seduce them the best they can, because when yo…
/r/seduction22/01/17 07:26 PM
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take hip hop / bollywood classes and practice conversations at bars. once you have a natural sense of who women are at bars and can confidently converse with any, and know how to dance, then you'll be able to dance with them as if you are connecting instead of not knowing what the f is going on.
/r/seduction22/01/17 06:55 PM
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let him know I'm into him by asking him questions like if he stays by himself, jokingly telling him I like it when he tells me what to do etc keep doing this kind of stuff, eventually he'll break because it's so obvious you want to go out with him and he'll run out of things to say and just ask you out. Maybe do something like say can you help me with something? I've got this pimple can you tell me if there is anything weird about it? It's under the skin. Then take his hand and put it in your in…
/r/seduction21/01/17 04:22 AM
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disassociate who you are separate from the stutter. Then if you see her noticing it then see yourself on her side separate from the stutter.
/r/seduction21/01/17 04:17 AM
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this really isn't a seduction thread
/r/seduction21/01/17 04:12 AM
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yes
/r/seduction20/01/17 10:02 PM
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she is checking to see if you are ok with it. It's very hard for her to have something with you if she is constantly pretending she doesn't actually already have something with someone else.
/r/seduction20/01/17 03:57 PM
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Hooking up is rampant between improvers. It's the third most activity that people marry each other in.
/r/seduction20/01/17 03:47 PM
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The best part about philly is just the shear numbers. You can try any approach you want. If DaygameCoach says Baltimore is great then Philly is like NYC to Baltimore. Also Philly I think is the actual hipster capital of america, fishtown. However it also has class higher than DC I think, it has a wider spectrum of people and definitely cosmopolitan. Also has a few places were tourists are going through non stop (city hall). In center city the AVERAGE woman is fit, and most have normal girl perso…
/r/seduction20/01/17 03:24 PM
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I once turned around and just said "are you going to (very specific event) too!?" and then she ended off getting off at my stop instead of hers. It doesn't matter how stupid your line is, in fact the more blatantly stupid possibly the better.
/r/seduction20/01/17 12:49 PM
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I'm assuming for the same reason men are attracted to latin women. They are very easy and don't really play games. Even though white women prefer that you don't play games with them it doesn't really work because they themselves play games. The only reason latin men can get away with it is because they don't care, if it doesn't work with white women they can just easily have a latin woman.
/r/seduction20/01/17 12:43 PM
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from what I heard you have to meet girls through friends and you have to go on a few dates before she'll do anything. otherwise girls in india will definitely screw around especially in mumbai and I'm guessing some parts of bangalore and new delhi.
/r/seduction20/01/17 12:37 PM
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When I was in mannheim I remember girls screaming at guys getting on the trolley "SHE'S HORNY!!!!!" and girls giving me THE LOOK. Definitely if you're looking to fuck around it doesn't seem like they are going to make it hard.
/r/seduction19/01/17 11:22 PM
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Seems like a lot of conflicting information. Exactly how many times have you gone on casual dates etc and with how many girls. Also how many pro visits etc. Seems like you have way more experience than you need to get a girlfriend if you want. From what I remember most girls in college in their 20s don't want real boyfriends. They want to be treated like pros and just taken and then have a fuckbuddy relationship.
/r/seduction19/01/17 10:55 PM
1

I'm in Philadelphia right now
/r/seduction19/01/17 10:07 PM
1

I was actually thinking Baltimore would be good. I know DC people complain about DC. What is your opinion on Philadelphia?
/r/seduction19/01/17 08:38 PM
1

Women who identify as main stream in a feminist culture tend to have really nasty responses to honest approaches because they think they are entitled to treat men like crap. They have entitlement issues and think courting is supposed to go a very specific way which has no basis in reality, so they're just plain insane narcissistic. Girls from other cultures think of men more as equals, put their own effort in to make it work, prefer an honest progression etc. I've never really got very far with …
/r/seduction18/01/17 12:08 AM
1

I think more people have a success anxiety than a rejection anxiety.
/r/seduction17/01/17 05:09 PM
3

normally I warm up before going. cashiers, yoga etc. At the club I might yell something like "I'M SHY!!!" or just tell a random girl I love her.
/r/seduction17/01/17 04:40 PM
1

Jim Morrison
/r/seduction17/01/17 03:32 AM
1

how long? you probably didn't wait too long.
/r/seduction16/01/17 08:14 AM
1

dude we definitely should go out, should plan for next friday or saturday. no lol we'd just focus on getting exposure, I would redirect everything to you. we would just commit to showing up though, figure out what we'd do then.
/r/seduction16/01/17 05:34 AM
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I would agree with vbp0001 you should be attracted to her and then focusing being that, make her feel it. Then touching her etc feels right. Also say what's really on your mind. The one girl I spoke to she kept accidentally thinking I was being rude so I thought to tell her "just be rude to me then (then we'd be even)" but I paused because that is stupid. Then she looked at me and I just said it "well you should just be as rude as you can to me". Then she got slightly annoyed and said "why would…
/r/seduction16/01/17 04:55 AM
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There's no way I can afford a cab home on my own. Take a foldable flask with jack to the bars to save money. Did you really not have enough money? You definitely need to figure out why you REALLY didn't go with her. I'm assuming what happened was exactly what you were looking for to happen for the night. My guess is you weren't prepared to split from your friends? You should tell your friends before you go, just so you know when the time comes I'm ditching you mother fuckers when I find the righ…
/r/seduction16/01/17 04:18 AM
3

this was at the barbary and kung fu necktie on a friday night so definitely.
/r/seduction15/01/17 06:56 AM
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Feminism is definitely a problem. See the difference in approaching women from cultures where feminism doesn't really exist. Women do / will make the first moves if you have the right mindset etc. Last night I approached 3 and 3 approached me.
/r/seduction15/01/17 04:14 AM
1

I'd say take her out if she gave you her number.
/r/seduction15/01/17 03:07 AM
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I'm mostly doing small talk with her and she mentions I look like the nerdy white guy from Jeepers Creepers. Nah man you're on your way don't worry about it. In my experience so far this small talk approach works way better coming up and sitting with a girl at the bar. At least at the club I have the same issue, holding a girl's attention is more difficult because it's a mix of physical, dance and talk. Also the nature of the club is very chaotic, people bouncing and coming back is what is expec…
/r/seduction15/01/17 02:52 AM
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I actually went out last night with a friend and it was major inhibitor. I kept feeling obligated to check back and not open girls I would have opened up. My style is very focused heavy one on one which can get her to break her friends but also forces me to abandon any. I tried to get him to set some goals / make dares etc but he wouldn't.
/r/seduction14/01/17 08:41 PM
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I would say picking up at a class is slightly like picking up at work. definitely a lot better but might end up in you or others never wanting to go back to it. I've tried talking to girls at yoga classes, they aren't necessarily always super friendly and they normally have boyfriends.
/r/seduction14/01/17 02:21 AM
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you get calibrated and lighten up around hot women. the first few times you go they will probably call you out as your first time, just don't hit on any girls for like the first three times, then feel free to hit on them. I normally hit on the teacher. Yoga works as insanely good prep for going out etc.
/r/seduction14/01/17 02:04 AM
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the gym alone will make you look buff at best but not cut. you need a work out class like yoga or dance etc if you want to become cut. you can't starve yourself to being cut. I've been working out for over 15 years. it wasn't until the past 2 when I started taking dance classes and yoga that I became cut.
/r/seduction13/01/17 07:41 PM
1

5'8" isn't short
/r/seduction13/01/17 05:05 PM
0

he doesn't actually HAVE to take it off a pedestal, what he HAS to do is get out there, make bold moves and keep trying and doing what he thinks he needs to improve, ask for advice etc. He needs to stay focused and NOT just keep doing the same thing.
/r/seduction13/01/17 04:15 PM
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You should add in doing yoga because the gym alone will never make you look cut. Also yoga will help you get laid for a lot of reasons because you are doing a bunch of funny poses with a bunch of hot chicks etc.
/r/seduction13/01/17 02:05 PM
1

this makes no sense why would he keep doing the same thing. and what is wrong about worrying about your virginity anymore than any other thing one wants to accomplish?
/r/seduction13/01/17 02:00 PM
1

if one doesn't think of it as "paying for sex" and instead thinks of it as "having money involved", and does their best to seduce her as they would any other girl they will see most escorts will match you 500% for wanting sex. a lot of escorts will do everything they can to help you seduce them, they want it to be as real as possible. If you think you don't have her even a little bit hooked then just get another escort.
/r/seduction12/01/17 10:42 PM
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don't take anyone's opinion who hasn't been to an escort themselves.
/r/seduction12/01/17 08:38 PM
1

all an escort does is skip all the courting, the rest is the same
/r/seduction12/01/17 08:37 PM
1

an escort is as real as you make it
/r/seduction12/01/17 08:36 PM
2

models and no more mr nice guy is a good combo especially if you just want to be yourself.
/r/seduction12/01/17 05:19 PM
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I think you have to try being high energy and bringing the fun before you can pull off just being comfortable and feeling good. You're probably being high energy and fun at key moments and not noticing it.
/r/seduction12/01/17 04:56 PM
1

A true no is actually rare
/r/seduction12/01/17 04:35 PM
1

Started off hitting on a bunch of chicks and talked with my indian girlfriend. Convinced myself to go to the dance club only in that I would just show up. Ended up in the bar where I was going to practice and warm up. Ended up talking all night to the first girl I talked to. Was clear half way through she wanted to fuck but I was never going to have the time, my greatest expectation was that I could just make out. Aside from my conversation game my kino / escalation game was weak but at the end …
/r/seduction12/01/17 03:28 AM
1

you're right I should have said "then we'll do everything but fuck" then she probably would have said "lets get a fucking condom".
/r/seduction11/01/17 02:15 PM
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The game was in pretty much every word I said, being up on her bar stool the whole time etc. My strategy was to throw something blatant in every once in while. IE: when she leaned in the one time I just kissed her cheek and when she rolled back she just said "whatever lol". I was running / leading the conversation and she was running / leading it to sex. My intention was only to practice, she's basically the second girl I've ever sat down at a bar to talk with, so I hadn't given myself enough ti…
/r/seduction11/01/17 02:01 PM
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Haha ya I'm definitely going to bring a condom now, show up at least an hour earlier and try to close by 11 instead of 1 am. Might start skipping trying to make out with her, or at least use the question of going to her place as the ramp up to just going in for making out. Seems fair on the weekday to say we have to leave early because I have to wake up tomorrow. She actually did mention once "I can't believe how sober you are" which didn't make sense to me because I rarely drink and I thought I…
/r/seduction11/01/17 01:44 PM
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This was a huge logistical fuck up. I wasn't even expecting to go when I left my house so didn't think to bring a condom and before I went I waited too long convincing myself to go so I showed up too late. I would have pushed to just go to her place when she first said that but she said she didn't have a condom.
/r/seduction11/01/17 01:27 PM
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wrote this this morning - Giving the impression that you are going to try is more important than constantly succeeding because it forgives the lows / mistakes for the successes that will eventually randomly come. Then just take the patience for them to come and don't have any major issues. Gotta regularly be making bold moves though.
/r/seduction09/01/17 08:25 PM
3

if you think of everything as a learning experience you can do anything.
/r/seduction09/01/17 04:28 PM
1

Indians are super hot
/r/seduction09/01/17 04:06 PM
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at I this point I think making her feel wanted is more important. why not go to the gym and take yoga though to knock those off the list? those are super easy and most gyms will have their own yoga class. probably a planet fitness nearby that is only $10 / mo.
/r/seduction09/01/17 03:08 PM
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normally I get a sense of about 1 to 3 things I naturally want to talk about in the vicinity or about her etc. Once I've got 2-3 good things with a response then I'm golden. if only 1 then oh well going in. if not then any stupid spark will do. Actually some of my best openers had nothing to do with the vicinity. the one I just started telling a story about how my building's door person started talking to me about christmas trees and then he asked me if I had one yet and I said no. Then he said …
/r/seduction08/01/17 06:01 AM
2

you can do it I guarantee it
/r/seduction08/01/17 05:40 AM
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dude you got a date with the first girl you spoke to NICE! I noticed girls who are new in town are always lightening fast to hook up with someone. It's like they are insecure and just hook up with the first guy who asks. just saying, when a girl is flirting with me and then says "i'm new in town" she might as well be saying "fuck me". definitely jump on it asap. perfect with telling her at the end.
/r/seduction08/01/17 05:37 AM
1

In my experience when you think they aren't doing something then you aren't doing the same thing. Maybe you weren't appreciating their presence by expecting something more (that wasn't cultivated)? Or maybe you both were appreciating each other's presence but that wasn't what was needed to escalate? I would say humor and seduction are two different things. You can get laid by just being seductive but you can't get laid by just being funny. I agree with the dancing monkey syndrome in that you mig…
/r/seduction07/01/17 02:06 AM
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if you ever catch yourself leading towards saying "next time" CHANGE IT TO NOW TIME! damn you should have just kissed her, amazing setup right after you said "I was" then she continued. you could have done in her bathroom, you two should have been scrambling to find the first time out of work etc you were going to meet up. awesome FR
/r/seduction07/01/17 01:49 AM
1

that new years fr is brilliant.
/r/seduction06/01/17 06:15 PM
1

This is brilliant. Awesome that you just kept throwing yourself in even though you were getting bombed out and it was taking a toll but eventually you got a girl that was receptive and it started going up afterwards.
/r/seduction06/01/17 06:10 PM
0

start taking hip hop and bollywood classes
/r/seduction05/01/17 04:59 PM
1

yes
/r/seduction05/01/17 04:56 PM
1

being distracted from your self doubt is extremely important for seduction.
/r/seduction05/01/17 04:50 PM
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I agree I don't know how there are 235K subscribers and then we can have new years, halloween etc with no FR's. Every friday and saturday should have at least a few FRs.
/r/seduction05/01/17 04:33 PM
1

one question I ask bi girls is if you were with a guy and a girl at the same time who would you want to be making out with you and who would you want to be eating you out.
/r/seduction05/01/17 03:11 PM
3

I have minimal experience with threesomes but you really have to seduce two girls at once or you both have to indulge on the other girl. You have to be good at narrating what is happening. You have to be good with someone else being there while you're enjoying one girl and you have to be experienced enough with seduction that you don't see it as personal. With 2 girls you don't get those 1 on 1 seduction forgivenesses, that's why I say you really have to seduce two at once. I guess the best way …
/r/seduction04/01/17 05:10 PM
1

the problem with texting is that communication breakdown is inherent. you simply don't actually know how they were meaning to say what they wrote. you don't actually know how available they are to talk to you at that moment.
/r/seduction04/01/17 04:05 PM
1

this is good thanks
/r/seduction03/01/17 07:19 PM
1

You wouldn't believe the amount of stupid shit I say. In fact sometimes it isn't even really coherent. You should just focus on making it charming / seductive / entertaining when you do it. Exactly in my experience being seductive is about talking emotionally and not logically. That's why saying absolute crazy shit at odd times may be exactly what you need to do to maintain a certain emotion. Also same goes for saying or asking seemingly dumb stuff. Exactly, I'm not saying use it as an excuse, d…
/r/seduction29/12/16 05:59 PM
1

You can't determine anything just off a look. You need to just focus on making some approaches and doing bold moves. You aren't going to be able to take advantage of the subtle random opportunities until you've attempted stuff 5 times more crazy intentionally at least a few times.
/r/seduction29/12/16 04:18 PM
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you sound like you might have aspergers. holding a conversation is more about how you say stuff than what you say. You have to have swagger in your voice, body, and what you choose to say. You are entertaining them. Also focus talking directly to them. take responsibility for that you are building a relationship with them. also you need to recognize that you are capable of hurting them, and when you drop out you are effectively rejecting them. don't worry too much if your contribution isn't stic…
/r/seduction29/12/16 03:51 PM
1

"understanding women" is always in relationship to a unique individual and what they want to do with women. In order for YOU to understand women the only way is to interact with them trying to get what you want with them. You have to go out an interact with all kinds of women in different scenarios / environments etc.
/r/seduction27/12/16 05:29 AM
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I would love to ask one of the two girls out. I would if I could ask them out but I already have a friend who is a girl and I can't really give her enough time either. I'm insanely busy with work and college. I always assume a girl would never want to have a casual infrequent relationship with me instead of trying and seeing if she would.
/r/seduction23/12/16 11:28 PM
1

damn I remember when this was first posted. still number 1 seddit of all time.
/r/seduction23/12/16 10:56 PM
2

If you want to be pursued then go out and do all the work needed to get women as the pursuer, then simply stop pursuing. After about a week women will start pursuing you knowing that you could pursue them. It's not really about who's pursuing who, it's about doing your share of the work.
/r/seduction22/12/16 10:26 PM
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Thanks! I would definitely recommend reading it.
/r/seduction18/12/16 04:53 AM
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Thanks :)
/r/seduction18/12/16 04:50 AM
0

from my understanding when a women says she wants you to be her friend she means fwb. so if you use the same code word with them then you are doing a fwb innuendo. depends on how you say it etc.
/r/seduction18/12/16 03:03 AM
1

At work they are frequently interviewing for new people and they always mention they want someone who can do the job and "can communicate". I'm pretty sure they're referring that they don't want to get another person like me who "can't communicate". I actually got hit on super heavily by three different women in the past few days. One even told another girl who interjected herself (seemingly as a savior against me) to effectively fuck off. Most people think I am either out of touch or "can't tal…
/r/seduction18/12/16 02:50 AM
1

lol I'm not saying aspergers is retarded. I mean when I'm mid conversation and I just simply can't remember what I was going to ask next, then I ask her to wait, then I literally have NOTHING to say for like 30 seconds, THAT'S retarded.
/r/seduction16/12/16 10:21 PM
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a lot of girls don't really have a social circle or their friends are very plain. Ya but there are those that insult / deny you and there are those who just react to you being retarded. If they're just reacting that's fair. Sometimes they actually really like you so sometimes all you need to do is despite being stupid just don't lash back out at them. Ya group socializing with strangers is pretty difficult but it's definitely doable. Even people who are very talented socially always have a few p…
/r/seduction11/12/16 06:03 AM
1

how's it going?
/r/seduction11/12/16 04:32 AM
1

You can be only seductive and get girls. You can not be only funny and get girls.
/r/seduction08/12/16 03:52 PM
1

are you in a relationship with her?
/r/seduction07/12/16 03:41 PM
1

Seems like your main issue has to be you don't have enough time for women. I would work in some fun activities like improv, stand up, dance classes, karaoke or clubbing. I would say you're going to overwhelm her with your resume so instead of saying nothing just replace it with just having fun with her. Feed her bits about your resume slowly, you don't want to OD her.
/r/seduction06/12/16 09:20 PM
1

if you don't want to be a creep JUST OWN IT. I was in the lab and this super hot / cute iranian girl intentionally brushed up against me with lots of space to get around (completely no reason to brush up against but simply to brush up against). Then she was talking to the iranian girl I was sitting with and I thought I don't want to look at her because I would feel like a creep. Then I thought fuck it, I don't care I just want to look at her because I want to enjoy looking at her and eat it up s…
/r/seduction06/12/16 08:53 PM
1

seduce her as normal then just stagnate it at a certain point. then when she advances deny with stagnation. In my experience friendships with women are like fwb's on low boil, you gotta go in to it willing to fuck them and make sure they feel that.
/r/seduction06/12/16 08:34 PM
1

Big city like Philly or like Houston? Urban style cities are like the college experience for the real world. The suburbs / suburban style cities are isolation, slow death and over weight women.
/r/seduction06/12/16 08:16 PM
3

what I find more crazy is how easily you can forget you've mastered it
/r/seduction30/11/16 07:30 PM
1

Imo the most important thing is you have the time to be available. Otherwise I'd imagine it's all pretty much the same, take her out and take her home etc. My only guess is she'll probably want it to be a relationship in a small space so to speak.
/r/seduction30/11/16 03:41 PM
3

are you single? is she someone that is not a big deal if it screws up?
/r/seduction28/11/16 05:47 PM
3

how does the first sentence of a book start?
/r/seduction28/11/16 05:40 PM
3

friend the hell out of her then she'll make a move
/r/seduction28/11/16 05:23 PM
2

This sub is literally made of the coolest most awesome mother fuckers on the planet.
/r/seduction27/11/16 06:14 AM
3

in the one book I read about basic attraction it's known in cultures where there are more women than men the women do whatever they can to get a guy. so basically in any scenario where women greatly outnumber men expect that short term instincts are overriding them and they are all becoming wildly more attracted to you. Just focus on knowing / taking advantage of that they'll be overly attracted to you.
/r/seduction27/11/16 06:10 AM
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infrastructure like taking her out, chatting her up, getting to know each other, become normal with each other, formally developing feelings, becoming known to friends etc. A lot of people think I'm socially retarded if not literally retarded. I bank entirely off of sincerity, boldness in her business and honesty / trust (and ironically intelligently paying attention). It normally takes girls bare minimal a day to realize I don't operate like anyone else and provide something unique. I suspect t…
/r/seduction27/11/16 06:06 AM
1

I don't think either were interested in a FWB but the first was definitely capable. I wasn't interested in FWB because for me getting a girlfriend was hell so I just wanted to get one.
/r/seduction27/11/16 05:47 AM
1

Girls in groups are actually easier because they have a sense of security and also they have to prove themselves to each other. It almost ALWAYS turns into a competition. Girls rarely let themselves be out alone so you have to have lightening fast reflexes to engage a girl by herself. I dunno when I talk to girls it's more about maintaining a feeling, what is said doesn't matter that much.
/r/seduction27/11/16 05:35 AM
1

with my first girlfriend I remember being blown away that we were naked within 3 meets. she was willing but I didn't have a condom atm, then she turned it in to some awkward one month wait count down. my second girlfriend was very slow to progress, I almost dropped her many times but we escalated right at my breaking point each time (1 to 2 weeks after first date?). It always sounds so awesome as a story but shit was just chaotically unfolding then. I approached literally 2-3 girls per day for 6…
/r/seduction26/11/16 06:14 AM
1

Probably just the basic framework that you should just be touching her, have to get your intent out there etc.
/r/seduction26/11/16 06:00 AM
1

imo most people are building small relationships and calling them hook ups. so they don't have sex until their 2nd / 3rd meet. to me a real hook up is when had sex etc before you had the chance to get to know each other. I think that kind of hook up is rare unless money is involved.
/r/seduction25/11/16 07:28 PM
1

I don't have any shame with hooking up with cam / phone / escort girls etc so it doesn't bother me if I don't succeed for the night.
/r/seduction25/11/16 01:33 AM
1

lol the girls I dream of don't talk much and fuck within a few minutes
/r/seduction25/11/16 01:24 AM
1

Whining only works if she's made it clear she wants to "make it better", then you can use it to pull her in. Otherwise it's almost always negative points. Be human, but pretty much never whine (or be negative / angry etc).
/r/seduction24/11/16 11:13 PM
1

looks like you could easily cam sex a lot of these girls
/r/seduction24/11/16 10:59 PM
2

If you're going to take a break then take the time to do something significant like begin taking dancing classes, mma, or acting classes (improv / standup etc). You should take the stance that no excuse is legitimate unless you are physically incapable of going out.
/r/seduction23/11/16 04:16 PM
1

tosca - suzuki https://youtu.be/mNk9cbJqtjs?t=27s
/r/seduction22/11/16 09:39 PM
5

music is important. allows for silent points with no problem.
/r/seduction22/11/16 09:37 PM
1

the problem isn't that you can't get laid, it's that you want it to happen in a very specific way.
/r/seduction22/11/16 04:40 PM
1

makes you wonder if being too attractive fucks up your game development
/r/seduction21/11/16 06:01 PM
1

ya but you'll start polarizing everyone
/r/seduction21/11/16 05:39 PM
4

If people are having polarized reactions from you then you are doing it right.
/r/seduction21/11/16 05:32 PM
2

the fundamental approach is to just go out, make honest attempts and then come back write it out and then review what went right and wrong and what you should try next time. I recommend going out and making 10 good attempts before reading anything so you can see where you're currently at and develop your own style first. The last girls I approached at a bar were just a group of two. I just walked up in between both and asked if they knew about the dance club that was nearby. The one girl was rea…
/r/seduction18/11/16 05:18 AM
2

go to a strip club if you want to shatter a whole shit load of rules really fast. but make sure you treat them individually and "exactly" like you would any other girl and don't engage with any of the other guys there (or look to act like they are acting).
/r/seduction18/11/16 04:34 AM
3

It's more about momentum than exact words. By the time you make your third serious attempt on a girl for the night everything is different.
/r/seduction18/11/16 04:32 AM
1

I recommend ya'll go to a bar first and just chat up random girls to get your talk game going first. Then just ask them if they want to go to the club. If you just go to club it's easy to fall in to the idea that it's all dance and physical game. The foundation is still talk game (even though you might use barely any). If you want to understand why your dance / physical game might fail you need to understand what these girls would be like to strictly talk to at a bar instead.
/r/seduction18/11/16 04:29 AM
1

this whole sub is literally psychology.
/r/seduction18/11/16 04:23 AM
1

I don't think this would work under the benjamin franklin effect because the premise is she has to be left wondering why she did the act, subconsciously determine it's something she'd only do for friends therefor subconsciously decides he's a friend.
/r/seduction18/11/16 04:20 AM
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it's not strictly about favors, favors are what people do for friends. you need to convince / have her do something she only does for people she has sex with etc. therefor subconsciously she'll justify it because you're someone she'd have sex with. Ultimately this is the whole premise of confidence. Just show up doing things only her boyfriend / guy she has sex could get away with and if she reciprocates then she'll (subconsciously) justify her reciprocation. IE: asking a girl to simply change l…
/r/seduction18/11/16 04:17 AM
1

you need to figure out what prep works for you before you go out, otherwise you have to gain momentum on the spot which is extra difficult if it's also new. I'd recommend yoga or chatting up cashiers before hand.
/r/seduction18/11/16 04:02 AM
6

In the book No More Mr Nice Guy it says you have to surrender control of the outcome. Just surrender control of the outcome and then just commit to going for it.
/r/seduction18/11/16 03:58 AM
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I'm just trying to say you don't need to do any of that. It helps a lot but you don't need to do it. Also it is not the core issue, if you address the core issue then you definitely don't need to do any of that. Also I'm only trying to see what I can do in a single meet. If I was even willing to call back a phone number I'd probably girlfriend a lot of girls, even if I'm often a feeble idiot with most of them.
/r/seduction17/11/16 05:03 PM
1

as far as I can tell a fwb has all the same infrastructure as a girlfriend. It's questionably just the modern term for a girlfriend. I think only guys who can frequently do one night stands have true fwb's and those are pretty rare. Every guy I've ever known who had that skill did therapy, drank a lot and frequented the pros at some point.
/r/seduction17/11/16 03:39 AM
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Ya because of the nature of the hoops girls make guys go through a guy has to have a bunch of girls running at once. For looks I'd say just eliminate sugar and preprocessed foods, go to the gym once a week (do all muscle groups, infrequently going to the gym cuts fat better than regularly, go every 4-7 days) and yoga. The main attraction feature is actually happiness (in both guys and girls) so you need to eliminate anger and be happy / smile. I recommend the headspace app and just being happy w…
/r/seduction17/11/16 03:32 AM
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I've actually done mma, improv, street performing, karaoke, tango, hip hop, traveled the world, learned a second language, sky dived, owned a sports bike, physically a 8.5-9, very successful and I am still often a feeble idiot when trying to deal with women. The only thing I haven't done yet is a therapist and I am assuming that is the one thing that will actually matter.
/r/seduction17/11/16 03:11 AM
1

I'm trying to figure out how to keep work from causing so much momentum loss.
/r/seduction15/11/16 04:09 PM
1

I'm just saying what's needed for a relationship and hooking up are different and that a relationship is going to be way easier. You'll be able to get a relationship long before you'll be able to convince a girl just for the night. Imo if it's not a single meet / day interaction then she's basically building a mini relationship framework and calling it a hook up / fwb. You don't have a car? A job? Your own place? I think some cash flow so you can at least drive to her is kind of minimal just for…
/r/seduction15/11/16 04:19 AM
1

ya, seduce through touch
/r/seduction15/11/16 04:05 AM
1

a very good way to kino, very effective. I use it on girls and it works pretty awesome.
/r/seduction14/11/16 04:17 PM
1

most girls are looking for a relationship. I think if you just commit and then show love a lot of girls will stay with you even if you're boring and fundamentally unhappy or even unliked.
/r/seduction12/11/16 06:18 AM
2

needs and needy are different things. needy is when you think you are entitled to your needs instead of earning them.
/r/seduction12/11/16 05:39 AM
2

you shouldn't shame others for being open sexually. that is the reason hooking up is so damn difficult in this country.
/r/seduction12/11/16 05:34 AM
1

not being "that guy" and going out alone are different things. also be that guy who cares.
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:06 PM
1

Blonde women are by far the most savage. I rarely even bother with white women. On the rare occasion that I do I always get a nasty rejection and about 5 minutes later of wtf it hits me... oh ya white women. I've noticed especially from minorities and foreigners mainstream american white women are a waste of time. Minorities also include non main stream white guys like nerds, aspies etc.
/r/seduction11/11/16 08:53 PM
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All I know about online is that paying a photographer who knows how to take dating pics helps. My impression on mastering online was you had to make fake woman and guy profiles to see what kind of openers guys actually use and what kind of guy profiles actually work. Then you can adjust. I wouldn't recommend online. I would say just get some hobbies like yoga, dance, hiking, mma, meetups, etc and then just always be closing. Always be chatting up the women around you everywhere and if a conversa…
/r/seduction11/11/16 05:46 PM
1

I recommend intelligent women, women with aspergers and foreign women.
/r/seduction10/11/16 09:16 PM
2

I think with guidance one can get good results pretty quick.
/r/seduction10/11/16 05:59 PM
2

better chances are it's because you haven't actually made before the certain kinds of approaches you know you should be making. just admit that and punch through (not literally) about 3 and after that it'll be pretty easy to just go out and do it.
/r/seduction09/11/16 10:28 PM
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Would you guys know of any way to get back into it after a long time not doing it? Any advice is greatly appreciated. I deal with this regularly because I have to keep starting / stopping because of a super loaded schedule. You just have to force yourself, go as you are, just focusing on showing up and after a day or two you'll have momentum back. Might help to practice in Philly instead. I find NYC INSANELY! easy compared to philly. Might just be because it's not the city I live in.
/r/seduction08/11/16 09:19 PM
1

in my experience all women want at least at the bare minimum some semblance of a running friendship if they are going to sleep with you. So you at least need to go in to it with the honesty that you'll be available to keep in touch etc. otherwise everyone has different places they are best at. you may do best at bars, or coffee shops, or online, or at tourist locations etc, or possibly connect really well with pros.
/r/seduction08/11/16 07:04 PM
1

only for the night or fwb?
/r/seduction07/11/16 07:04 PM
1

you don't have the energy to over analyze anymore
/r/seduction07/11/16 07:00 PM
2

small town dynamics are completely different. there is no "how it should work" there, only how they decide it works. I recommend moving out. Fuck. It's like middle school all over again. exactly
/r/seduction07/11/16 01:01 AM
2

practice at many different venues with many different girl types
/r/seduction07/11/16 12:55 AM
4

I don't think I would like clubbing if I didn't take dance classes
/r/seduction05/11/16 09:33 PM
1

You're surrounded by horny hot women then you do weird poses with them. Then the instructor instills her vibe and has her hands on you making corrections all class. Then you chat her up after class.
/r/seduction04/11/16 10:20 PM
1

yoga, strip club, mediating, hitting heavily on cashiers, dance class. so far I've actually found yoga to be the best. getting a 10-20 minute massage might work too.
/r/seduction04/11/16 09:30 PM
1

I think part of the problem is I think I HAVE to do rapport building and I HAVE to convince her that she likes me. So I feel like this process has to happen. Actually I can't really envision how that would transition to short term hook up without her doing a lot of major work. before saying the the first thing I say in to her ear I should probably mmm in to her ear.
/r/seduction04/11/16 07:36 PM
1

Don't set exactly where or what type of girls. Try different venues etc. Everyone's got different venues / girl types they end up being best with.
/r/seduction04/11/16 03:03 PM
1

actually the costume question was a joke lol, she wasn't wearing any costume. Then she said "something" and I said "it looks really hot". I think my conversation is boring (compared to grinding) and slightly long term oriented though. I think I need to keep in mind my intention and where the conversation is leading to. Should probably try to talk intimately and then when she says but I don't even know you then switch over to rapport, then when she realizes that is boring then go back to intimate…
/r/seduction03/11/16 08:24 PM
1

You should never make a girl feel like a piece of shit. just let her know what she did wrong and you didn't deserve it. then it might actually work out or find it was a misunderstanding. then just leave
/r/seduction03/11/16 04:56 PM
1

I dunno care more about what you can do with her right then (in the conversation in particular). IE: when I go to the club I could careless if I get her number etc, I only care about what we can do there. If I think we have unfinished business then I'll get her number.
/r/seduction03/11/16 04:49 PM
1

imo you should ask some women about this situation. maybe go to a bar or just the street etc strike up a conversation (with some older women) then ask her what you should do. you probably just have to do something basic.
/r/seduction03/11/16 03:45 PM
1

I think I asked her what her costume was, if she lived in the city and how long she had been there already. I don't think just simply continuing the conversation would have worked. I had a lot of pressure to want to ask her if I could buy her a drink however I've never done that before and I didn't want her to think I was "buying" her. However I think instead of conversation on the floor I probably should have grabbed her hand and led her somewhere else etc. Maybe off the floor more get to know …
/r/seduction03/11/16 01:17 AM
1

Thanks!! do you have any advice / framework you would give for the clubs?
/r/seduction02/11/16 08:49 PM
1

where do you normally pick up from and what material helped the most
/r/seduction02/11/16 08:16 PM
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don't fully agree with 2 and 3. she doesn't have to be nice to you, but she does have to deal with the repercussions of being a bitch. In How to Win Friends and Influence People it mentions that people inherently want to do the good thing and help which contradicts 3.
/r/seduction02/11/16 07:37 PM
1

Anyone know what I did wrong with the dance floor girl? Also I think my conversation is too structured but I don't know how to fix that.
/r/seduction02/11/16 12:53 PM
3

in my hip hop class asain girls are the only girls who are ever told to stop thinking and get out of your head. if you're a typical white dude who is in his head then you pretty much just need to show up with an asian girl. last night I was talking with an asian girl who was clearly a pick up artist. probably the only culture where the women see getting sex as the same as guys.
/r/seduction31/10/16 07:44 PM
3

this is like a perfect example of how to go out casual
/r/seduction31/10/16 06:15 PM
4

A girl asking a guy out is never "breaking gender roles". A guy never thinks she is "breaking her role". Approaching just means all the hard work is on you, and she's able to do the hard work and that's a big deal. I would feel a lot more loyal to a HB6 I'm already having sex with who is super aggressive and defensive than a shy HB8 who is a little shallow and thinks lowly of me for my lack of skill. Seems like there is no punch through between you two. If you're acting really hot and constantly…
/r/seduction30/10/16 03:42 PM
1

eat a high meat diet. 2 meals of mostly meat a day, maybe double portions.
/r/seduction30/10/16 03:12 PM
1

medium / long term momentum (going out daily etc) and not letting ANYTHING fuck with your confidence.
/r/seduction30/10/16 06:25 AM
1

If guys truly wanted only sex then they'd have no problem getting it.
/r/seduction30/10/16 05:43 AM
3

approach because you don't care and just want to make it better for them. To lose weight and get fit super fast all you have to do is eliminate sugar and preprocessed food, take one aerobics style class (yoga, dance, cross fit, spin? etc) per week and go to the gym once a week (all muscle groups).
/r/seduction30/10/16 05:35 AM
1

Thanks going to use this
/r/seduction30/10/16 03:58 AM
2

thanks I used the put her hand behind your neck trick last night it worked awesome
/r/seduction28/10/16 07:12 PM
1

probably try to connect, get touchy, go make out and then possibly go home. at the club dance close, make out, connect go home. I'm more in to the club scene because I like getting physical more and talking less so to me I see the bar scene as prep.
/r/seduction28/10/16 04:24 PM
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then what should you ask. I disagree that it doesn't raise tension at all as these are personal questions, they are exactly what the book models suggests. Also good rapport is not a wrong / bad strategy before getting sexual (or kino escalation while doing it). definitely important to know them if you need them.
/r/seduction28/10/16 04:13 PM
1

where do you normally meet them?
/r/seduction27/10/16 06:22 PM
1

no it's ripped
/r/seduction26/10/16 09:42 PM
1

the old version of headspace can be downloaded with a torrent
/r/seduction26/10/16 08:04 PM
3

my guess is you are looking for validation in the approach. you should instead be comfortable with the approach and ok if it works out or not. focus on giving good vibes / energy, going with the flow and not really trying to control the outcome. main goals are establishing a connection and making bold moves.
/r/seduction26/10/16 04:55 PM
2

this is like saying what's the point of improv classes when you just throw yourself out there and do it anyways. Most people without the classes would just throw themselves out and do nothing. they don't know to make sure to build and identify characters, add things to the scene, help the scene flow, how long to play out a current topic, add a catalyst etc.
/r/seduction26/10/16 02:14 PM
9

go to your city's reddit and practice making witty / funny comments on random shit
/r/seduction26/10/16 02:09 PM
1

you're not going to be able to get the guy YOU want unless you take the initiative. otherwise you're going to have to just go out and make work whatever approaches you get. Guys who take the crazy amount of effort to learn "what to do and what to say" and make it seem natural normally don't go for girls who couldn't help themselves unless it's just random. They are like 10-20%, they can pick any girl, why not pick a hot girl who they connect with who can also do the work too.
/r/seduction26/10/16 01:41 PM
1

go to a dance club instead
/r/seduction25/10/16 09:05 PM
3

exactly a 10 has nothing to prove and doesn't care what people think, they just do. They just show up and be a 10.
/r/seduction25/10/16 03:59 PM
1

You want to make a dancer your girlfriend? My suggestion is actually pay to be with her and go all out, make a connection in the first 20 minutes then afterwards ask her out or just continue hanging out. Definitely don't try to be her white knight.
/r/seduction25/10/16 03:46 PM
2

lol but you're asking where you can practice. random webcam is perfect for practice. also you get to interact with girls from all over the world so you can practice outside of the indian culture limitations. there's also no excuse either, it's literally less than a minute's click RIGHT NOW to do it and if it's a bad interaction then click it's over, 100% no way period you'll ever be able to know who each other were or get in contact again. They are effectively so close to non existent questionab…
/r/seduction24/10/16 01:46 AM
1

try to get them naked
/r/seduction21/10/16 06:08 PM
10

sounds like you haven't made a single bold move so far but she's made a few. why can't you make overt moves but she can? why does she have to invite herself to do stuff with you but you can't with her? She was in the middle of a shopping trip with you and you were looking for the IOIs? The whole thing was an IOI. You just needed to start smashing through her defenses. so I continued to play it cool as if I'm not interested why would you ever do this? The way you find out if you can escalate with…
/r/seduction21/10/16 02:02 PM
1

mainly one girl that I stopped talking to who I should call again
/r/seduction21/10/16 04:07 AM
1

omegle and omeglepervy can be good practice especially if you are in 11th grade
/r/seduction20/10/16 07:52 PM
1

there are a few other women I should probably call before trying to get her number.
/r/seduction20/10/16 07:39 PM
1

Imo it's impossible for us to give you a useful answer unless we know why and what you think it means. I can only assume you're trying to get with him otherwise how'd it become awkward and why would you care.
/r/seduction20/10/16 05:08 PM
2

You need to be able to make fun of yourself if you want to succeed in pick up.
/r/seduction20/10/16 04:07 PM
2

right now I am only interested in what is possible in a single interaction. I don't think I could have got her number. logistically a lot of people both in the line and behind her.
/r/seduction19/10/16 05:52 PM
1

for a girlfriend or hook up?
/r/seduction19/10/16 02:46 PM
1

a unique situation
/r/seduction18/10/16 08:49 PM
1

I'd recommend first go out and make 10-100 attempts at parties, bars, the street, coffee shops, the library, online etc to see where you are at THEN consider reading up. You want to develop your own personal style before trying someone elses style. You won't understand what you are reading anyways unless you've gone out and tried. It might as well be poison.
/r/seduction18/10/16 07:51 PM
1

in my experience the girls who will talk the what classes you're taking bullshit and nothing else are actually girls who have a lot going on outside of class. you need to break in to their social group if you want to get with them. the reason they are not receptive to a lukewarm approach is because they are already on the ground running with another group.
/r/seduction18/10/16 05:10 PM
1

I just kind of even want to talk to someone, but not on topics about football and doing shit, but something deeper, like how to find happiness, what does that certain person value in his life. Getting something deeper isn't about the topic you choose to talk about but how you connect while talking. Any banter is a chance to get excited and touch her, give her a shit eaters grin, etc. Keep in mind there is very little substance in life anyways. you might not care about the ways others choose to w…
/r/seduction18/10/16 02:27 PM
2

you could probably negotiate a few successful wingmen to wing for you for the night for much less. Why a short period of time though? You should at least go out on your own at least 5-10 times first. Why pay for help if you don't even know where you're at yet?
/r/seduction17/10/16 08:52 PM
3

street game is the most difficult. you should try places where girls actually go to get picked up. when learning you have to try all different types of venues / girl types until you find what works for you. obviously if you knew what works for you you'd be doing it so whereever / whatever will end up working has to be something you wouldn't have imagined would work.
/r/seduction17/10/16 02:33 PM
1

The only way she could ever assume she found out everything about you is if you start acting like she learned everything about you. It's how you change after you told her stuff not what she knows.
/r/seduction17/10/16 02:18 PM
1

I'm opening around just to try and meet everyone. In the first 10 minutes I started making out with this girl and she slid my hand under her dress. She wanted to go home with me. It was too early and she wasn't in the right mindset. I turned her down (hadn't made out w a girl before this in 2 years). You had it then threw it away and continued to "try for it" for the rest of the night. You cover over this like an awkward blip. However if evidence proves if given the real chance you give it up an…
/r/seduction17/10/16 01:54 PM
1

if you LOOK creepy then always be in motion and have your actions not be creepy.
/r/seduction14/10/16 07:42 PM
2

If I am assertive right away and express interest in dating, then I am moving things too fast, too soon How do you know you are moving too fast too soon? They tell you this? Normally if they are telling you or making that clear then they are letting you know that they like you and this is what you need to adjust with them individually. However if you are just concluding this then quit concluding shit, it's not your place to decide when, if and how they like you. From what I can tell normally you…
/r/seduction14/10/16 07:12 PM
1

I agree with recyclablebanthas. Try focusing on instead classes that help with seduction like mma, improv, and dance. From what I've heard from an indian guy who was successful in india you have to date through friend circles. So take a few classes like mma / improv / dance, join a social group, expand your character, make sure you are focusing on making female friends and ask for dates within friend circles.
/r/seduction14/10/16 02:24 PM
1

my take on it is when you start thinking you're a perfect match you start using "that you're a perfect match" as the reason you should both get together instead of going through the normal process of "making her attracted" etc. Therefor you begin just skipping some of the attraction / vulnerability and essentially just start demanding you get together. To her it's still the same, you're just another guy but now you're overwhelming her and not even trying to get her to like you. So after a few at…
/r/seduction14/10/16 02:06 PM
1

you're worried about how you can guarantee it will work out. even the best can only take their best shot and maybe it works maybe it doesn't. Just go all out and try to get a number / in person asap so you can start communicating in a way where you get real feedback. Also to keep calm is to recognize that you'll probably need to attempt seriously but (probably) fail the first 2 to get back. Make sure you go all out on the first two to make sure you get back in the game as much as possible.
/r/seduction14/10/16 12:52 PM
1

you can actually make it more romantic than 10 times of what normal relationships get to so long as it's unspokenly understood that it's just for tonight.
/r/seduction13/10/16 08:32 PM
4

my opinion at the moment is, if you were to get involved with a girl who is already with someone you should actually support them staying together not breaking apart.
/r/seduction13/10/16 06:42 PM
1

even the best have to overcome anxiety every single time they go out and a huge array of bullshit excuses. That's why they say to just do it.
/r/seduction13/10/16 04:34 PM
1

make her head over heels for you.
/r/seduction13/10/16 02:23 PM
3

just do it. don't put pressure on just one girl, just go for it and some reciprocate and some don't.
/r/seduction13/10/16 02:16 PM
1

I've always found girls with headphones actually easier to interrupt.
/r/seduction13/10/16 02:13 PM
13

you have to approach even the perfect match girls as if they are just some girl who could or could not work out.
/r/seduction13/10/16 02:06 PM
1

Thanks for reading, any tips on what I could improve on? Do the exact same thing 3 to 5 more times
/r/seduction13/10/16 01:10 PM
1

you weren't being creepy it was just a shit test. you should have just said she's creepy.
/r/seduction12/10/16 08:58 PM
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having anxiety about having anxiety actually isn't a legitimate excuse. being social is half a skill and half just doing it. if you open your mouth and just start talking then you're socializing. If you just ask her out and then take her out then you're dating. If you go in for a kiss and you both kiss then your kissing. If you're having anxiety about anxiety then you need to recognize that that isn't a legitimate excuse and actually identify exactly what you are having anxiety about and address…
/r/seduction12/10/16 06:57 PM
2

it's always up to them to decide why and if they like you. Never question it.
/r/seduction12/10/16 03:58 PM
1

the fast track is to practice seduction with the pros (cam/phone/escorts) while you are practicing online / street / clubs.
/r/seduction12/10/16 03:29 PM
1

I think in order to master online you have to clone and bunch of girls and guys profiles to see which guy profiles work and to see what openers work for girls. Then you can fix your profile and openers.
/r/seduction12/10/16 03:00 PM
1

might be good somewhere early on to say something like "I think you're attractive" instead of waiting to the point where if you continue any further with what's currently going then it's obviously just friends. It's best to always do the escalation you want about half way from the point you want to do it.
/r/seduction12/10/16 02:53 PM
1

elaborate
/r/seduction12/10/16 02:42 PM
7

"we'll be right there" fucking genius
/r/seduction11/10/16 11:47 PM
1

Is the US and Europe actually the best place for pick up? You're going to need a lot more than just posture in the US / Europe.
/r/seduction11/10/16 09:06 PM
1

I think using pick up to pick up was genius because it got her to commit to that this is a PICK UP. Also it put the honesty to the absolute max. It also provides a lot to talk about because it's exactly what's on their mind, it's exactly what's happening and they know a shit ton about it.
/r/seduction11/10/16 12:14 PM
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that's because he geniusly asked. He interrupted her making it what he was saying really important and then said it with a strong emotional hook. then he said it really fast so she had to respond fast (emotionally, mirroring the emotion he put in to it). also she responded fast / emotionally because he had strong connection / confidence when he said it.
/r/seduction11/10/16 12:00 PM
1

which regional rail stop do you live closest too?
/r/seduction11/10/16 01:46 AM
4

lol it's like an example of pick up can be done saying literally anything. "have a good one OK, hey I'll text you, ok cya" I don't think is going to get a date later. Probably went one step too far with the honesty with "not giving a fuck". For me one trick to better endings is to imagine I'm going to see her at least two more times and in my mind I envision the future version of her and not the current version. This makes my good bye 90% of time one that is of two people who are going to see ea…
/r/seduction11/10/16 01:25 AM
1

seems like she got bummed when you mentioned you'd take her out after she got the job instead of I'm guessing that night.
/r/seduction11/10/16 01:18 AM
1

what time did you start talking to the last girl?
/r/seduction10/10/16 08:37 PM
1

I think this is a lot like improv. When you are starting off in improv you have no idea what to do and the easiest solution is to "just have fun" and if you're having enough fun you can actually be as entertaining as someone who is advanced. Normally though to be that fun you have to show up having just done some sort of prep. However in improv you don't just play "fun" characters on stage, you can play sad, depressed, bored, angry etc and it be just as good. Improv is very similar because you a…
/r/seduction10/10/16 04:26 PM
1

everyone can get a girlfriend I am certain of this. hooking up is a lot more difficult, at least true hooking up where it's under 24 hours.
/r/seduction10/10/16 02:59 AM
1

Bars and Clubs are kind of advanced, it's meant for people mainly looking to hook up as if it was a brothel. Mainly it's about just going for it / taking her with the vibe that you actually just came back from the future were you both fucked. Therefor you already have that comfort with her. Take that bravery and hit on girls in places like the library etc and you will blow them away. Also you might be self sabotaging and not even know it because you don't want your first time to be a hook up. I …
/r/seduction09/10/16 02:35 PM
1

Where all do you do approaches? Coffee shops? Yoga classes? Libraries? Clubs? Bars? Tinder? What are the accomplishments you've had? Have you touched girls you just met within <1 <5 <10 minutes (not handshake)? Have you got a girl to dance with you? Have you held a conversation with a girl 10+ minutes? Have you gotten a number and had a conversation with her on the phone? Have you gotten and gone on a date? What are some of the best attempts you've made? What are some of the craziest? My guess i…
/r/seduction09/10/16 03:33 AM
2

thanks this was awesome. the kiss where she said maybe someday was genius
/r/seduction08/10/16 03:26 AM
1

flank the whole game and make her adore you
/r/seduction07/10/16 08:04 PM
1

you get a lot of pussy from day game in china or where you came from? Seems like as a foreigner you could nearly just go out on the floor and they'll come to you.
/r/seduction07/10/16 07:03 PM
4

start out at the first pub or two easy. remember the women are there to meet people, who ever for whatever. If you show up to introduce yourself then you're who they are here for. If you are worried about conversations then for the first two women only focus on just having a conversation.
/r/seduction07/10/16 06:48 PM
1

give some dating advice to some women
/r/seduction07/10/16 06:46 PM
1

I'd say try to make more out of your first date and also begin mentioning / figuring out ideas where she likes to go and what she likes to do on the first date. Also I'd say try some more venues for trying to find girls who might like to go on a date with you. It might help to keep dating momentum up so the previous date is more fresh.
/r/seduction07/10/16 06:34 PM
3

If she hasn't seen event horizon yet expect to get a whole lotta pussy
/r/seduction07/10/16 06:15 PM
4

go all out on girls at a different venue before the one you are planning to go to.
/r/seduction07/10/16 03:39 PM
2

once I got my offline character better I was able to use that blindly online and then online went a lot better. I guess the two major things are knowing what you said was legit / good and deserving of a response and then holding out for it. texting is a lot about just letting it be if she stops responding, and then eventually she responds.
/r/seduction06/10/16 09:25 PM
1

I am not desperate for kisses or anything When you are first learning you have to care / try.
/r/seduction06/10/16 07:41 PM
1

actually this is a great technique used in improv. To pick the vibe you are going to have before going out.
/r/seduction06/10/16 07:07 PM
1

If this is true it's probably for the better. Now all the girls are in one place who want to hook up and you don't have to waste time trying for complete random girls. Pretty sure everyone in dance clubs are looking to hook up that night though. You just need to frame your cold approaches as insta-tinder dates.
/r/seduction06/10/16 05:23 PM
3

You meet girls with fake photos and they don't care? Seems like it would be awesome to practice phone / text game before meeting.
/r/seduction06/10/16 05:06 PM
2

You should keep in mind what you're asking for is a pretty big thing and not something that you want to rush in to.
/r/seduction06/10/16 02:23 PM
0

you need to consider that you are manipulating if you think any one thing can or can not work. girls are intelligent creatures, they can handle one being direct if one can handle it themselves. obviously if they like you they'd prefer it just like guys would.
/r/seduction06/10/16 02:48 AM
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You either need game or you have to click. Best not to start online, online game is learned offline (because online is really just offline with less stimulation and feedback). Also you should worry less about being needy and more about getting it, which is mostly about giving it.
/r/seduction05/10/16 08:57 PM
2

approach a few other girls for practice
/r/seduction05/10/16 08:40 PM
2

I have, and had girls just start dancing with me.
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:55 PM
0

hitting on a girl should never make you "look like a douche bag". In this day in age of guys playing so many mind games being straight forward actually is original and interesting.
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:54 PM
1

Come with me to the barbary on monday I need a wingman
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:10 PM
2

What do you do if you end up showing up for whatever reason with so little energy / momentum you can barely say hey what's up and you have no intention of drinking (and everyone else is drunk). I know what to do if I already have momentum but not sure how to build it on the scene.
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:01 PM
1

seems like you waited a little late to setup something casual. having sex on the first date would have more easily secured that. also are you already seeing another guy? that would help make sure you are actually in the casual mindset. Tell him you like him and you want to fuck a whole lot and you're not ready for a relationship right now. Get that hot sex relationship excitement going. Also you might want to consider helping him get some casual friends too. Or maybe a better time to break the n…
/r/seduction05/10/16 06:32 PM
1

The things which restore my confidence are calling up a girl that likes me and cam girls. Cam girls are super sweet hearts, just start with telling them how you were rejected and they'll go straight to making you feel better, then ask you if you wanna f* Group meditation, yoga and hip hop class also works but that is more like restoring momentum. I think a partnered dance could restore confidence like tango.
/r/seduction05/10/16 06:10 PM
1

Then you're already awesome and begin being masochistic loving life on hard mode.
/r/seduction04/10/16 09:32 PM
1

$$$
/r/seduction04/10/16 08:23 PM
2

everyone has their own bar set. you know what you need to do to consider yourself awesome.
/r/seduction04/10/16 07:19 PM
1

seduction on pros - yes seduction on regular women - no
/r/seduction04/10/16 07:16 PM
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I swear I would approach her without hesitation if I had a second chance. This is completely normal for building up momentum. You don't act on the first but then act on the second. It fails then you try on the third and goes fairly far. Now you try on the fourth with all the momentum of the third and it succeeds. It takes a lot of success before you can start taking your first for the day and it go somewhere. If "what's your name" is all you can muster then that's what you have to use with your …
/r/seduction04/10/16 04:13 PM
2

go to r/askwomen and ask them what they want when they are in a club. the whole thread will turn in to learn yourself loser etc. it's women's fault men don't know their point of view. they lie for control reasons.
/r/seduction04/10/16 03:31 PM
1

Hip Hop dancing, mma and improv. However Improv isn't exactly 100% a pro. It teaches you to be extremely honest and a little mean / asshole because that's funny.
/r/seduction04/10/16 03:16 PM
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it works yet people downvote it here. says a lot about the sub. they only want to hear about how the way they want it to work works.
/r/seduction04/10/16 02:47 PM
1

I think asking who she was here with was the bad point because you got her to verbally say "not you" immediately. Also then you followed it up by saying "where you off to" instead of a topic that focused on her staying here with you.
/r/seduction03/10/16 08:01 PM
1

The reason they want to know why is because your conversation / effort is saying one thing but your body language / emotion / amount of yourself you are putting in to it / on the line is different.
/r/seduction03/10/16 06:46 PM
1

In my experience if you're not 100% in to her she'll sense it and drop it.
/r/seduction02/10/16 02:47 PM
1

Just take her, spin her around then converse back and forth in her ear while you dance sexy with her. Pull her against you and grind and some where in between talking into each other's ears, having your cheeks pressed together when you do it, just grab her and kiss her. Just have her but also take the responsibility of just having her. A dance club is like a mix between a dance club and an open air orgy. The talk can be very basic, just about the club, the music, etc. Most girls don't know what …
/r/seduction01/10/16 05:06 PM
1

"do you want to have sex?" right out of the blue. I don't want to come across as creepy. You don't want to come off as creepy yet you don't actually know if this would come off as creepy. See how this is fundamentally stopping you from everything? Also you are worried women can't handle it. If you are a guy who is worried about being creepy I can guarantee you 100% whatever you think would be too much for even the most innocent of girls she's experienced 10 times "worse" probably multiple times …
/r/seduction30/09/16 04:37 PM
1

one way is to put yourself on a pedestal and see her as an equal
/r/seduction29/09/16 09:37 PM
1

go to another country improv classes dance classes mma classes coach I think paying for tinder pics is basic and nyc would definitely work. If you're taking improv and you're going after the improv girls your chances are through the roof.
/r/seduction29/09/16 06:25 PM
1

go up to her and ask her what do you think of this then show her a video of you flashing your dick
/r/seduction29/09/16 06:16 PM
1

this is mostly done with body language, demeanor and intention. I don't care if I have to say or do shit that doesn't make sense to get it across to her. IE: I might drag out an already obviously finished conversation topic because I obviously just love talking to her. Then change my voice and give her the killer smile and she reciprocates then we've made it clear to each other.
/r/seduction29/09/16 04:31 PM
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my guess is this is what works with white women which is why i virtually fail with all white women but am fine with all the rest.
/r/seduction29/09/16 03:51 PM
6

make that therapist a she
/r/seduction29/09/16 03:47 PM
1

try different venues and girl types. also start throwing everything and the kitchen sink at it. No more just "hey ... it's ...", try "hey sexy" if that's what you want to do. And when the sink doesn't work throw the tub, then the tiling and the door.
/r/seduction28/09/16 09:02 PM
1

beginning to talk to a girl is one of the few points where her opinion can completely change about you and the rest get thrown away.
/r/seduction28/09/16 08:54 PM
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you made the joke about sex and she started playing with hair. You had her right there. You should have broke the touch barrier by trying to steal her phone from her then laying right beside her touching (shoulder to shoulder etc) while you prove that it is working. Then it get heated and take it from there. By asking for the number you were trying to structure it in to something else when it was right in front of you. She is she, why would she need you to restructure it to make it work with her…
/r/seduction28/09/16 08:31 PM
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ye awkward is perfectly fine if the intentions were right and clear and there were no major issues.
/r/seduction28/09/16 07:14 PM
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I think at that point going for the kill wasn't getting the number but doing something right there.
/r/seduction28/09/16 07:00 PM
2

get or give a text with your name to be sure
/r/seduction28/09/16 03:07 PM
2

say and do things that make her feel you're wanting a sexual relationship with her and not platonic.
/r/seduction28/09/16 02:44 PM
1

you're likely to try and force it if it's at a planned location. Also you're likely to save it to the end, putting a lot of pressure on it, also the stress of trying to make it lead to that. It's better to have a few running story possibilities that could play out and get a kiss somewhere in the middle of the date to prep for that planned one.
/r/seduction26/09/16 06:04 PM
2

Prepare mentally for the kiss by thinking of when, where and after what kind of moment you will kiss her. Think in advance where you want to take her. This is how you guarantee last minute regret
/r/seduction26/09/16 03:34 PM
2

If you are looking for a shy girl because you think you are shy I don't recommend this. I'd say you are better off looking for a lonely girl.
/r/seduction26/09/16 03:25 PM
1

beginner tango classes
/r/seduction26/09/16 02:36 PM
1

In my experience girls with headphones in tend to actually be more friendly.
/r/seduction23/09/16 06:18 PM
2

Normally these lists are dumb but this one is good
/r/seduction21/09/16 06:30 PM
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These kinds of girls like your type but they will shit test you once to see if you are confident. Just be stupid before you would be boring.
/r/seduction21/09/16 03:43 PM
1

requires all the same exact work
/r/seduction21/09/16 01:52 PM
1

I just found out medical / nurse students tend to be over worked, depressed and socially recluse (despite being heavy partiers).
/r/seduction21/09/16 01:48 PM
1

18 and 21 were my first serious girlfriends.
/r/seduction21/09/16 01:41 PM
1

All the engineering minded girls go in to chemistry. Indian girls are some of the only girls who go in to engineering with the exact same mind set as guys who go in to it. In india engineering / programming is just seen as something that makes a lot of money, there are no prejudices or stigmas to it there.
/r/seduction21/09/16 01:40 PM
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I would recommend getting a girlfriend. It took me 6 months of approaching 1-3 girls a day in college before I got a girlfriend. Every girl that was a serious prospect had some significant similarity. What degree are you getting? If engineering I would recommend indian or chemistry girls.
/r/seduction20/09/16 09:08 PM
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Are you trying to just lose it or do you want a girlfriend?
/r/seduction20/09/16 08:35 PM
1

I have fucked hookers You need to change this attitude. It carrys over to all women, because they are all women.
/r/seduction19/09/16 01:55 PM
1

ALL!!!!!! excuses are just rationalizations for a feeling (for both guys and girls), which in your case is probably just fear because you've never technically gone past that point before.
/r/seduction16/09/16 02:21 PM
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try approaching non white women
/r/seduction14/09/16 06:31 PM
2

step in to the bar
/r/seduction13/09/16 05:59 PM
2

there is never a scripted ok time to approach
/r/seduction08/09/16 01:48 PM
1

what type of threesome do you want, both of them on you? them on each other and you joining? If you want them on each other you gotta narrate some sexual interest in between both of them. Otherwise if just on you then overload them on you all for broke.
/r/seduction07/09/16 09:03 PM
1

think of it like singing. you can't sing a love song without being vulnerable.
/r/seduction07/09/16 08:54 PM
1

hip hop classes
/r/seduction07/09/16 07:34 PM
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by knowing you're not going to do it.
/r/seduction06/09/16 10:42 PM
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I'd say go 300% like you were going to die after the trip was over. what do you care, you don't live in india anymore and going to be gone in 1 month.
/r/seduction06/09/16 09:12 PM
3

why stay away from indian girls?
/r/seduction06/09/16 08:44 PM
1

There was an FR on here where the guy met her I think on the street and did her that night and she was basically showing no interest the entire time (but not denying anything either).
/r/seduction06/09/16 08:41 PM
1

make honest approaches with all demographics / venues. then come back and write in detail what happened, list successes / failures / what should have been done differently then commit to changes.
/r/seduction06/09/16 07:20 PM
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hard to regret things in the past. can only regret things in the present and future.
/r/seduction06/09/16 07:06 PM
2

well known in the country? you are a celebrity? you can just get a second girlfriend or visit the pros. that's pretty much how that always starts, the other won't let the other leave (but turns it all to shit) so they stay and leave. You're liable to also get a shit ton of respect from her for doing it.
/r/seduction06/09/16 03:56 PM
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First started approaching when I was in college and lost my first girlfriend. Probably about 3 months of 1 to 3 girls approached per day. 3 major prospects, invited to a few parties, a lot of missed opportunities because I was looking for a serious girlfriend and not friends / hookups. Also didn't know to take dance classes etc which would have changed everything.
/r/seduction06/09/16 03:29 PM
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a girlfriend is a 1 to 1 contract, doesn't matter how either of you are to the rest of the world. just go find a loser girl and be the one to tell her she ain't a loser.
/r/seduction06/09/16 12:26 PM
1

I don't think you have to have a social circle. I would recommend you go to a few of these meetups - https://www.meetup.com/NYShynessandSA/ I went to one of those and I promise you that group is the key. A lot of girls and guys end up going out with each other from there too. A LOT!!!! of aspergers people there. All you need to find is a girl that's like you and it's done. Just need to go to the right places. I started talking to a girl at the drexel library (who was studying silently, I just to…
/r/seduction05/09/16 06:58 PM
1

If any of those could guarantee you women I'd say the closest is improv. I have lined up two hot psychologists who specialize in autism so I'm expecting I'm going to figure out what the "core" issue is with her. My guess is ultimately what mark manson mentioned, get a psychologist to help iron out some issues, be apart of some social group then just go out and make honest attempts.
/r/seduction05/09/16 04:00 AM
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try to get back in the mindset you were in last night. almost sounds like you just got born in to someone else's life and your next step is to "text something romantic". you probably knew what that romantic thing was right after you said that. also have fun with it.
/r/seduction02/09/16 07:49 PM
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pretend it didn't happen and it will naturally be forgotten. You make it real by acknowledging it perpetuating it. mistakes are natural to playing. that is the difference of having fun, when you are having fun light is made of the mistakes so you can fiddle around with high risk stuff.
/r/seduction02/09/16 07:04 PM
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Girls on average prefer guys on average, because they feel like they already know how to handle that kind of guy to get what they want. If you are coming off as different then you have to prove that you are worth their time to learn your unique self. Therefor dressing and some minor behavior tweaks to seem more average can have a lot of good results even though it seems you are stepping down.
/r/seduction02/09/16 04:51 PM
3

Me:"Well, do you wanna know mine?" Gril:"wait why?" At this point she was smiling Me:"so I can know if you're interested" nice
/r/seduction02/09/16 04:44 PM
1

Take mma or dance classes. Improv is a good way to be able to just start talking to any girl anywhere.
/r/seduction02/09/16 04:09 PM
1

I've done mma, sky diving, hip hop classes, tango classes, street pranks / performances, improv, karaoke, meetups (also running one), language exchanges, couch surfing, working out, trying better clothes. despite all that I actually feel like I'm in the same place. All of that helps A LOT for different reasons however I think the core issue is still there. I think most guys could do great if they could just address that core issue. I think no matter what though if you are going for it you'll get…
/r/seduction02/09/16 12:52 PM
1

because it's asshole and unemphatic to just say "you don't know how to answer"
/r/seduction01/09/16 06:27 PM
1

no I just scratch it off the list of things that were needed so I can get closer to figuring out the things that are needed. also add it to the list of things I know aren't holding me back. Unless you are at the point of what is psychologically called "supernormal releaser" ( read page 24 of http://stuckathomemom.com/downloads/NotSoSmart.pdf ) then small improvements will only help subtly. You should try making bolder moves to see what you are now more able to get away with.
/r/seduction01/09/16 04:24 PM
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don't say you don't know how to answer it. I'd be more inclined to say "pretend" (to yourself) you're not going back then let it fade naturally when you do go back.
/r/seduction01/09/16 03:43 PM
1

might say they are sneaky at some point
/r/seduction01/09/16 12:16 PM
2

TWENTY!
/r/seduction31/08/16 06:33 PM
1

hitting the gym is like taking a shower, it's really more like just the basics. You should commit to something like improv or mma if you are actually going to take time off. Even then you should commit one night for going out karaoke or a dance club etc.
/r/seduction31/08/16 04:37 PM
1

don't bate for at least 36 hours, then just play it out like your favorite porno.
/r/seduction31/08/16 03:38 PM
1

In improv whoever says the first line normally knows a lot about how they want it to play out already. You should be able to tell quickly what's on their mind, and if it's what you want then support them playing it out. Otherwise you gotta seed the ideas of what you want then take the lead instead.
/r/seduction31/08/16 03:13 PM
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a lot of women require a certain amount of dates etc before they commit etc. therefor it's only fair that you are dating multiple girls at once so you are not wasting your time. they understand the setup they are requiring and most are doing the same at some degree.
/r/seduction31/08/16 03:03 PM
1

you should try to do the most that you can just over skype
/r/seduction31/08/16 02:09 AM
1

You should probably build it up to the point where you could have kissed without asking first. I akin asking for it to two players on stage deciding to step off stage and evaluate where it is going. If you thought you had to ask, maybe you should first ask if she'd ever want to go out with you / be a couple / date etc, if you're already in the middle of a date then maybe you should be holding her hand etc.
/r/seduction30/08/16 09:10 PM
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In game theory each player has a next possible move for whatever state they are in, and each choice pair that each make will take them to a different state, and different states can only transition to a certain set of other states. Each possible state holds a different value for each player, and if both understand the field very well and the other player then they both can navigate the states to get to where they want. It is known in game theory if both players are cooperating together they can …
/r/seduction30/08/16 08:21 PM
3

don't blame her. sounds like she went through a bad childhood and doesn't have a good family backing. then she went through an open relationship and it messed with her head.
/r/seduction30/08/16 05:05 PM
1

did your friends see that there was clearly chemistry to go for it or were they saying go for it just because there was some girl there?
/r/seduction30/08/16 04:32 PM
1

true success will start happening when you don't see just approaching as success anymore.
/r/seduction30/08/16 04:11 PM
0

take it chill with work girls and only run game you consider safe for your level.
/r/seduction30/08/16 03:34 PM
3

ye
/r/seduction30/08/16 03:25 PM
1

just do it and be fun about it
/r/seduction30/08/16 02:42 PM
1

make bold moves
/r/seduction29/08/16 08:08 PM
1

good / quality plain shirts are hard to find, took me about 4 or 5 stores. most have some stupid design, are a sport shirt or are low quality.
/r/seduction29/08/16 05:20 PM
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collared shirts will never fit tightly to your body. they are also typical office worker / chode. If there's one thing I learned with karaoke and improv there is nothing more boring, uninteresting, and giving the exact opposite effect than typical / expected.
/r/seduction29/08/16 05:16 PM
1

I think I could only agree with the virgin one because she is essentially denying him sex.
/r/seduction29/08/16 03:27 PM
1

Jim Morrison
/r/seduction28/08/16 05:03 PM
2

Is this normally at bars or dance clubs?
/r/seduction28/08/16 12:44 PM
1

I have my own scale that I don't try to relate to others. It is almost entirely based off of compatibility, energy level. Being physically healthy / "fit" is just a basic cut off. I will definitely flirt and have fun with girls who are physically unattractive though. As far as drugs go it certainly would never be long term or really even medium. She'll end up cutting it off though (and she did....).
/r/seduction28/08/16 04:17 AM
1

It would depend on my mood / momentum at the time so I would assume I'd be in either one of four states (because I was there to practice / pick up), either I already approached some girls and was in good momentum, I couldn't manage to approach any and was starting to get into creeper / predator mode, I approached some but at least the last one was scathing, or I hadn't really started yet. I don't think she'd ever approach if I was already in creeper / predator mode. If the previous approach was …
/r/seduction27/08/16 05:06 AM
2

This is in the USA?
/r/seduction26/08/16 06:55 PM
3

manage to forget she said she doesn't want to and go for it when she comes over.
/r/seduction26/08/16 04:57 PM
2

give a highly detailed FR of each of the approaches
/r/seduction26/08/16 02:35 PM
1

to either wipe out the toxic waste that is a day of work, or synchronize with an environment on the spot.
/r/seduction26/08/16 02:30 PM
1

I was actually thinking if I started a pua school I would include infrequent mma, hip hop, and probably improv classes (at least integrate some of the improv games). Probably start each session off with a group meditation and send them to infiltrate speed dating events and send them to a strip club / masseuse a few times and only if they had an almost religious reason not to then not not let them go. I would call it fight club and the first rule would be to not talk about it.
/r/seduction26/08/16 02:20 PM
1

take a seat at some table and set your phone for 5 minutes and then follow through with what would be a short headspace.com style guided meditation. It's not not meant to not look like crazy, that's half the thing to get out of yourself and have a self of humor. The other half super synchronizes you with the environment.
/r/seduction26/08/16 01:01 PM
1

I'm pretty sure I have some aspergers and this is exactly how I do it. I just operate like I'm on a self riot. Some girls go for it some don't like for anyone else. I'm pretty honest and my intentions are clear so I think most girls always end up liking me too much for something short which is normally where I cut them off. Unless I really like her I don't want anything past the single interaction. I need to figure out how to explain I'm not wanting marriage, I really don't care to try and call …
/r/seduction26/08/16 12:39 PM
1

you don't know officially if she was or not though. you should avoid making any conclusions above 80%.
/r/seduction26/08/16 12:35 PM
2

welcome to suburban america
/r/seduction25/08/16 06:23 PM
2

Awesome effort. They weren't wanting you to be their assistant though. I'm a convenient target for this kind of thing due to looking like some timid shy guy who won't get in the way. not true, they probably liked you Then she opens her mouth to her (presumed parents) and talks a mile-a-minute about going out with friends, college, blah blah blah. It just seems to underline how I can't find any way to connect with anyone.. I've nothing in common, am not a social person (through little choice of m…
/r/seduction25/08/16 04:37 PM
1

I'd recommend clubs or classes on campus, particularly ones that focus on activities first like rock wall climbing, mma, yoga, partnered or non partnered dance etc first and then maybe social type groups to boost your confidence. The most skilled guy or girl seductionists will never keep people around who lower their confidence / ego / make them feel like crap.
/r/seduction24/08/16 04:24 PM
1

I'm like the jester of the group. Have to make the most of your pro's. You should take an improv class. Finally, I'm not obese, but I have quite a bit of belly fat. I've been going to the gym for 2 months, so hopefully ill be able to get that under control. The gym without diet changes won't do much. I only go to the gym ONCE a week and take a hip hop class once a week and I'm essentially cut. It's mainly diet, get rid of 100% of anything with sugar in it. After that then stop eating fast food c…
/r/seduction24/08/16 04:01 PM
1

I've had foot issues and stomach issues and normally I stop when they flare up bad.
/r/seduction24/08/16 02:59 PM
0

genius
/r/seduction24/08/16 02:13 PM
2

just the same thing without touching. obviously you have to touch her at some point. also you can touch on parts still clothed, thighs / waist, hug etc.
/r/seduction23/08/16 10:19 PM
1

sounds like she's been with a lot of guys and continues to be with other guys. Only solution for you seems to do the same.
/r/seduction23/08/16 07:56 PM
1

have you been with another girl before?
/r/seduction23/08/16 07:21 PM
2

it's not impossible to seduce without touching
/r/seduction23/08/16 06:51 PM
1

this was a cold approach and you didn't know her at all before hand? I wouldn't push a cold approach on the street. Did she linger after saying no thank you?
/r/seduction23/08/16 06:35 PM
1

I take the strategy of text is either used to setup a date or a call. Trying to have conversations over text will inevitably lead to miscommunication, otherwise it's a boring medium. Just wait until you can call or meet in person.
/r/seduction23/08/16 06:21 PM
1

were you not able to hang out with her right then?
/r/seduction23/08/16 04:41 PM
1

otherwise practice doing some all out approaches and then when the time comes naturally that you should approach then you will.
/r/seduction23/08/16 04:03 PM
3

do other girls too
/r/seduction23/08/16 02:35 PM
2

You can't really determine any real interest until you talk to a girl. You should never get hung up on JUST looks.
/r/seduction23/08/16 02:04 PM
6

5'8" is closer to average than it is short. I'm 5'8" and I never consider myself short. however that definitely depends on where you are at. In germany I won't find a single german who is the same height or shorter.
/r/seduction23/08/16 01:56 PM
2

It barely matters, you can't really determine anything until you talk to her.
/r/seduction22/08/16 08:49 PM
2

don't save anything for the last minute. If you are wanting to kiss her do it during the date. if you feel like you couldn't during the date then do the touching / vibe building etc that would make it so you could do it.
/r/seduction22/08/16 07:19 PM
1

hip hop class
/r/seduction22/08/16 07:11 PM
1

I'd say if you are using strategies like that as a method to get her then you are shooting yourself in the foot. If you don't actually have other options or know you will relatively soon enough then you should be sticking to putting the energy / attraction in to keep from even hitting a point like that even if it's not the behavior you'll end up having end game when you do have abundance.
/r/seduction22/08/16 06:59 PM
1

are you still living with your parents? If you are out on your own you are in full control of making your situation better. Go to college and move far away from where ever the fuck you grew up. Preferably move to a big city or one with a very cohesive social culture (new york etc). Maybe also consider moving to another country for awhile where everyone will want to be friends with you / hook up simply because you're not from there, it's like being social on easy mode. Also people in almost every…
/r/seduction22/08/16 02:02 PM
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What city do you live in? Also what things / material do you think contributed? Seems that you kicked ass at many stages all in a row.
/r/seduction21/08/16 05:03 PM
2

my latest one is just "don't fear". others have been "trust" and confirm what you want to do then stop thinking and just do it.
/r/seduction21/08/16 03:40 AM
3

In fact I don't really have any fears when it comes to conversation itself. I was at a party not long back and before the alcohol got flowing I was the most social person in the room, literally making everyone laugh. I have social skills, sure, but it just never seems to lead anywhere. Excuses. What are the other fears? That's what you need to work on. If you read models have you addressed what kind of person you are and what type of girl would be a good match, and then where you'd actually find…
/r/seduction20/08/16 03:11 PM
4

The last thing one wants to do is misread a situation and go from pleasant customer to harassing a woman at her job. Why, I was heavily flirting up the karaoke door girl yesterday and I could careless if she was being professional. I do the same with the dentist girls, they just let me know when I cross the bounds with a wink. Do the same with my pharmacist girls and they give me extra care, and the same with the girls who run the cash register where I eat and they routinely give me stuff for fr…
/r/seduction19/08/16 11:18 PM
1

learned helpless can be overcome with a win. Depression will continue whether you are winning or not. Also learned helplessness is primarily about getting a bunch of bad results that should have been successes, that then ultimately keep you from trying later when that good approach would have worked like it should have. learned helplessness will happen no matter what whether you're skilled etc so long as you have too many failures in a row but the solution is always a win (even if $$$ was involv…
/r/seduction19/08/16 09:19 PM
1

Put simply just DON'T FEAR! You don't have to be bold or crazy, or a maintain a bajillion random theories etc. Just go about saying what you want to say and interacting with girls the way you want to without fear. Don't overcome fear because that makes your interaction this big scary thing that you're overcoming and it becomes the same for her. Just tell fear no and just say what you wanted to say. Ultimately there is actually nothing what so ever to be feared about talking or going after a girl…
/r/seduction19/08/16 09:04 PM
1

in person raise the tension to a breaking point then make the make or break hit. first come to the understanding that if it's not a fuck-yes then you want a fuck-no from her or you don't want to continue with her, otherwise you'll choke when the break point hits.
/r/seduction19/08/16 07:57 PM
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I agree the OP should polarize her in to a fuck no or fuck yes if it's been dragging for awhile. Either a fuck-yes, fuck-no, or fuck-grey. If a fuck-no then say good bye, if fuck-grey and you want a girl as a friend then keep her but find another to pursue romantically, or if a fuck-yes then fuck her.
/r/seduction19/08/16 04:33 PM
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That's because they can have literally any guy on that app. Literally. Not true So they are EXTREMELY selective. Probably true
/r/seduction19/08/16 04:00 PM
1

how many girls have you tried let me see your tits on before. also what city do you live in
/r/seduction18/08/16 04:36 PM
1

headspace.com download the first version from the pirate bay
/r/seduction17/08/16 07:42 PM
1

I saw a study on drudge that said girls tend to think guys with less than 3 had too little.
/r/seduction17/08/16 07:23 PM
2

I actually tell this to friends. Pick girls out on the street and list 3 things you would tease them about.
/r/seduction17/08/16 06:25 PM
1

I think what women think is confidence is really just skill and experience. However you can have skill and experience and then temporarily lose your confidence and then women complete annihilate you for it.
/r/seduction17/08/16 06:22 PM
1

New York is a very culturally social people who are all basically living their lives like a story playing out. Also they love uniqueness and plainly accept that people are stupid creatures, they don't try to pretend that anyone isn't and act like they aren't. If it logistically makes sense (like they are standing instead of walking) and you make any honest attempt pretty much any girl there is going to hope that it works. Just play the numbers until you get one of those 10% girls who will essent…
/r/seduction16/08/16 10:45 PM
2

NYC might be the only city in the US where the girls truly have a pick up culture mentality. I was doing a funny exercise where I simply just sang the abc's seductively (nothing else) to girls anywhere (including victoria's secret) and I am 100% certain a little short of half of them wanted me and didn't give a shit what opener I used. I actually had to continue singing the abc's to some because they wanted more.
/r/seduction16/08/16 03:59 PM
-1

What's better than putting her on a pedestal is putting both of you on a pedestal
/r/seduction16/08/16 03:39 PM
3

It's about fixing and being your true self and then finding girls that are perfect matches.
/r/seduction16/08/16 03:21 PM
1

Decide what you want to clearly in one statement "Fuck her", "Make out with her", "Take her home", "Chat her up", "Walk up and be a chode" and be dead fucking honest. If you wish and hope it would end up in fucking but intend to walk up and be a chode then make your statement clearly "Walk up and be a chode". Get out of your head, stop thinking and just go do it. You will NEVER think your way out of it and the very best thinking can do is to get you to just go do it. There is nothing fucking els…
/r/seduction16/08/16 03:13 PM
3

Don't take anyones advice here that hasn't been to an escort.
/r/seduction16/08/16 01:59 PM
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make a list of all the shit nerds don't tend to do then do them all. One thing I've learned from improv so far is you're not going to magically be able to not be yourself. Go watch a movie at the theater and find one that is about to start then recite the brave heart speech to everyone there then leave.
/r/seduction15/08/16 08:41 PM
2

why would anyone even ask?
/r/seduction15/08/16 08:10 PM
22

Normally I do these things depending on as needed - Chat with a hot cashier, ticket girl, etc Meditate (even at the bar or on the street) Do something crazy
/r/seduction15/08/16 08:08 PM
1

So long as you are in the right place to actually take it somewhere if it would go somewhere and you don't do anything to intentionally mess it up then I'd say about 5-10% of the girls you meet will basically say yes to anything. I'd say she is one of those yes girls. (10% will say no to anything, and 80% are grey zone)
/r/seduction15/08/16 06:15 PM
1

nofap to get to horny enough to forget about everything else, not to the point where you get angry horny though. for me I wouldn't waste my time going out anything less than 1.5 days since and past 3.5 days since.
/r/seduction15/08/16 03:26 PM
1

actually dancing is an awesome alternative to not being able to converse well. I by far prefer a dance club.
/r/seduction15/08/16 02:29 PM
1

one night stand / single night lay
/r/seduction13/08/16 12:15 AM
4

It's possible most guys won't be prepared to answer this and they might take it as a shit test. Also their answer could end up being self limiting. Might be a lot better just to say what you're looking for. (IE: sitting at work now, if the hot indian girl came over to me and asked "what are you looking for" I wouldn't know what to say but if she said "I'm just looking for casual sex but a little more, I'm in an open relationship" I'd say fuck ya.)
/r/seduction12/08/16 09:41 PM
0

ya I noticed that last time I was there every girl was virtually a perfect match.
/r/seduction12/08/16 08:18 PM
0

I was already in a bad place before I started, the whole night was forced going out because I need to practice for improv. I wasn't intending to talk to any women at the gym but she was a girl I had asked out before so I wanted to just be friendly and chat a bit since I saw her and she wouldn't look at me and spoke minimally. Normally I'd just go chat up some other girl to undo it (normally I'd make at least 2 solid attempts before even going to karaoke as a warm up, last week it was her and ano…
/r/seduction12/08/16 02:53 PM
1

Ya I think this was the issue actually. I was burnt out from a 3 day run.
/r/seduction12/08/16 01:56 PM
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a white girl at the gym treated me like shit and it totally fucked up my night going to karaoke afterwards.
/r/seduction12/08/16 04:47 AM
5

why 10 times? Just reskim through it and make a log of all the points then write a review on what the book is all about and how it is relevant to you. then go approach 10 girls. In the book itself it says to not get caught up constantly reading etc.
/r/seduction11/08/16 04:26 PM
1

from what I've seen the only way to improve internet game is to practice in the real world.
/r/seduction11/08/16 02:55 PM
7

it ain't going to work if the woman also doesn't have confidence. It's just a basic requirement for both sexes. it's just that women get confidence "for free" because culturally "all guys want to fuck them". If you go out with the same confidence women use, "I'm guy therefor all women want to fuck me", and you're willing and looking for any girl that is a good match personally like women do then you're going to be in the fast lane for a lot of pussy.
/r/seduction11/08/16 01:36 PM
1

"the city", philly, nyc, san fran?
/r/seduction11/08/16 01:33 PM
1

your approach is your date 0. make it good.
/r/seduction11/08/16 01:31 PM
1

So japanese girls suck and taiwanese girls are fucking awesome?
/r/seduction10/08/16 08:09 PM
1

lol
/r/seduction10/08/16 07:34 PM
1

text and "everything" or just text. texting is boring, just stick to some good calls / dates etc, she's busy. what to do next is take it to the next level.
/r/seduction10/08/16 07:29 PM
3

being a fool is better than not trying at all and works more often than it should
/r/seduction10/08/16 06:52 PM
9

understand that they aren't boring, shallow, ignorant and immature and the conversation is a lot more complicated than it seems, you have issues that you need to address to lighten up, and it's a skill that you haven't learned yet (to converse / seduce etc). IE: a lot of people stick to song / dance basic topics because they don't know you so they start off with common denominator conversation to get their character out there. It's up to you to figure out their unique interests / views on life e…
/r/seduction09/08/16 02:02 PM
1

actually I just had this issue on saturday. we were bullshit talking and someone called me on another phone and I looked it and she said "is that your secret admirer?" then I said "like you?" which was gay because it was slightly dismissive. Then I said "no it's james, I don't know a james I aint answering that" and all she responded with was "gay". Then I realized both fuck I'm being gay and that she just gave me the green light to totally fucking go for it. So I decided to switch gears go all …
/r/seduction08/08/16 09:35 PM
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downvotes are upvotes in this thread
/r/seduction08/08/16 08:01 PM
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you need to quit thinking of yourself as a scary creep.
/r/seduction08/08/16 07:55 PM
1

"extremely threatening". I assure you if I do it she'll quite enjoy it and anyone else planning to do it should have the same mentality.
/r/seduction08/08/16 06:35 PM
4

I've hit on a few girls girls on the subway / bus and some left with me. The enclosed space and commonality of the scene helps. There was actually a FR of one dude doing something similar and he even had his hand on her thigh. Supposedly he f'd her the next day.
/r/seduction08/08/16 06:31 PM
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it should be pretty clear if you're a crazy person after you start talking to her. saying hi to her etc is not crazy.
/r/seduction08/08/16 05:05 PM
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Unless you're touching her inner thigh and she can't really get away I'm pretty sure women can handle an honest attempt. Any commonality / getting stuck with a girl is an AWESOME time to lay it on her. She's bored shitless on a bus / subway fantasizing the same as you that instead of a boring bus / subway ride she'd hook up with that hot guy she's connecting with across the isle.
/r/seduction08/08/16 03:31 PM
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have to do something bold, get up and sit beside her or just stand in front of her and start talking to her. If you can't even be that bold then how can you have sex with her. don't think of it as boldly transitioning from one state to the other but instead boldly being in the state you want to be and managing then transition drama so it only creates a temporary bend instead of a break.
/r/seduction08/08/16 03:08 PM
2

If you are living in a dorm just the first few days can determine if you are going to be apart of the scene or a recluse. Immediately get out with others, invite yourself to their dorms etc and let them in to yours. That window exists for just a few weeks max.
/r/seduction08/08/16 01:57 PM
1

You're not past the bar and club scene, 32 is still a kind of prime for guys. Also indian girls are NOT a no no. I agree though you're square one. You need to go take some hip hop classes, mma and yoga etc. Where are you living now?
/r/seduction07/08/16 12:25 AM
2

I'm a white guy and (main stream) white women are boring, impossible, racist / prejudiced, entitled, proud to be dumb and look down on those who are smart and are rarely actually physically attractive. I'm almost always go for minorities.
/r/seduction07/08/16 12:14 AM
0

LTRs are started as polarized LTRs from the beginning. You'll get shit loads of rejections.
/r/seduction05/08/16 09:18 PM
1

Mine is based off of the general study of intelligence and how learning works in general. Not sure if that is similar.
/r/seduction05/08/16 09:17 PM
1

too complex of a conversation to have over text. however telling her what worked on her was being an ass.
/r/seduction05/08/16 09:12 PM
9

these are the things i've done to conquer fear - mma, dance classes, in public youtube style pranks / public performances, karaoke, improv, skydiving. At this point there's no point to focus on fear killing exercises anymore, just attempt practicing.
/r/seduction05/08/16 07:35 PM
1

live in her business. just touch when you want how you want. if a girl says you're giving gay vibes say you'd fuck her right here and right now. It's a matter of your confidence not being at the same level of what you want to do and what you know you're capable of. You need to go out to places and practice just touching girls you don't know, ask them to make out, w/e. Calibrate yourself so you're operating at your own level.
/r/seduction05/08/16 07:11 PM
1

should keep video watching to a minimal. They are good for ideas but they won't make any sense unless you are near the same level. Think of watching a match of any sport etc you are really good at. You start seeing all the micro plays that made it work.
/r/seduction05/08/16 06:18 PM
1

Manson's models book says to mainly focus on just stuff about you or her. particular passions, interests, hobbies and lots of detailed whys.
/r/seduction05/08/16 04:46 PM
2

the one thing you can count on with women is they will be a thousand times more friendly than you are expecting they will be.
/r/seduction05/08/16 04:24 PM
1

sky dive
/r/seduction05/08/16 03:39 PM
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then maybe she's actually perfect for you.
/r/seduction04/08/16 04:33 PM
2

I agree if you were thinking this was mutual it's not anymore, at least the seed has been planted that she likes the idea of doing other guys (and may do so in the future). I'd be thinking now maybe time to start working on the idea of threesomes or just dating some other girls at the same time. It's just for funsies now, read up on how to start anal with her.
/r/seduction04/08/16 04:23 PM
6

you don't HAVE to be so direct this early. If it's not working out for you just take it a little easier and focus a little more on getting a call or a meet up first. I mean what the fuck, I was just trying to be sexual, avoid platonic conversation and be playful and straight to the point. I think straight to the point was the main issue.
/r/seduction04/08/16 03:18 PM
1

where all were you approaching girls? approaching a girl at a bus stop shouldn't have much expectation to work out, you shouldn't think of it much.
/r/seduction04/08/16 02:15 PM
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at this point you need to get revenge m8.
/r/seduction04/08/16 02:08 PM
2

it's pretty common girls just bolt after a class. give them some chat but if they're still bolting don't think anything of it. normally i'll out come independent small talk / chat / banter them just to see where they're at before even making a formal approach.
/r/seduction03/08/16 09:41 PM
1

a girl with 9 / 10 looks but a normal personality? imo 3 points are just for compatibility alone.
/r/seduction03/08/16 09:26 PM
1

go the fuck back and run down the first girl you see. by run I mean run. what's more important than even approaching a girl is that you don't leave feeling like shit, go fix that right now.
/r/seduction03/08/16 09:02 PM
3

I always just approach them as a group / single entity, the one to isolate will make herself known. Groups of girls ALWAYS compete for you, they are easier than singles actually.
/r/seduction03/08/16 07:15 PM
1

my warm up no matter what state I'm in is pretty much always the same. Approach the first more less exactly how I feel but try. It's going to fail. Second girl go all out who cares. Use the frustration to get everything and the kitchen sink at it. Third girl gets laid and we bask in the destruction of the first two.
/r/seduction03/08/16 06:28 PM
2

they will at least be more clear and better understood, whether that requires speaking louder etc or not.
/r/seduction03/08/16 06:17 PM
1

make honest attempts and don't bail if it's working. Don't walk away if there is a silence. Think of a few places you can ask her to go right then, and a few places you could go a day or two later. Commit to at least 10 approaches.
/r/seduction03/08/16 06:01 PM
1

lots of rejection will happen for two reasons - you're not making honest attempts and bailing out at some point you're continually going after a particular type of girl (and / or in a particular environment) instead of trying all girl types.
/r/seduction03/08/16 04:19 PM
0

Philadelphia Center City
/r/seduction03/08/16 03:26 PM
1

I've only read models and still waiting to put together a review. His idea of perfecting yourself, learning who you are, learning who your demographic is, then finding / approaching that demographic and presenting yourself honestly with intention is unarguably the most complete honest approach to finding women who are your perfect match most efficiently with the least amount of game. I don't agree with his term of neediness though. Neediness is a symptom not a root cause. The root cause is lack …
/r/seduction02/08/16 09:12 PM
2

Getting a long term girlfriend and hooking up are different things but some things overlap. From what I've seen you're either built for one or the other and those really good at one are sometimes non existent in the other.
/r/seduction02/08/16 09:01 PM
1

ya fuck that
/r/seduction02/08/16 08:39 PM
2

this is an awesome idea. do you know if it is possible to take classes where you only practice on women?
/r/seduction02/08/16 07:52 PM
1

If you never try those things that you think will "come off as a serial rapist" then 100% they will always plague and bubble up. Try them once and they'll go away forever.
/r/seduction02/08/16 03:37 PM
1

never feel like a loser and remove whatever won't see you otherwise.
/r/seduction02/08/16 03:35 PM
1

You live in india? This seems like a lot of reading material. I would recommend lists of classes to take instead like salsa / swing, hip-hop / bollywood, mma, improv, yoga etc.
/r/seduction02/08/16 03:14 PM
2

I agree sounds like lack of experience. Possible might need to try different clubs too.
/r/seduction02/08/16 02:39 PM
2

couch surfing is fucking awesome. You have to be really smooth / skilled / experienced to hook up with a girl couch surfing your place though because if it spirals out she has to still feel safe sleeping there etc. Elaborate on how you did not do anything about it.
/r/seduction02/08/16 02:33 PM
0

I dunno hire an escort but tell her you want to take her to eat first and have it play out exactly like a date where you can do all the touching etc you were holding back before. Make her your tinder date and hook up with her.
/r/seduction02/08/16 03:14 AM
2

You have to try out a bunch of different venues / girl types before you find the one that works for you. Why does approaching girls in person scare you? Still women. If you were thinking girls on tinder were pro's then you should visit the pro's. I would honestly recommend practicing hooking up with the pro's first if you want the fastest path to being able to hook up.
/r/seduction01/08/16 09:21 PM
3

she's receptive. next time you meet or phone her completely overwhelm her, completely storm the fort. no mercy, no survivors. use text only to setup the date or phone call then surprise attack.
/r/seduction01/08/16 03:32 PM
1

be as needy as you want, just earn it
/r/seduction01/08/16 02:39 PM
0

Imo complimenting looks etc is not to make her feel good at some basic level but to actually boost her confidence because women also need confidence to make it work.
/r/seduction01/08/16 12:41 PM
1

Is this in text? If this is in text then there is nothing you can conclude from it. You can never conclude anything from a text conversation. Otherwise you made a bold move which is a serious hit, keep chatting her up as normal and let it turn her on long term.
/r/seduction01/08/16 12:38 PM
1

if you're coming off as gay it's because you're not going for it at the level you know you can go for it at. You're probably capable of fucking in two hours but you're pussy footing for days. Just fucking be bold and fuck her, get right in her fucking business.
/r/seduction01/08/16 12:30 PM
1

I actually came up with a similar quote. You have to be a little bit gay to be 100% heterosexual.
/r/seduction01/08/16 12:25 PM
1

I would go with mark mansons version of the kiss statement "if you think you could have had a relationship with her, you probably could have had it 10 minutes ago"
/r/seduction30/07/16 11:54 AM
3

The way to change who you are is to do things you wouldn't normally do.
/r/seduction29/07/16 07:09 PM
1

gimme the number I'll find out
/r/seduction29/07/16 06:09 PM
1

go to the strip club before visiting her to get the in right mindset. Sex starts long before the physical. You should have been fucking her right at the first meet. Sounds like you showed up as a chump who should be able to get it instead of a chump who just gets / has / does it.
/r/seduction29/07/16 02:47 PM
1

doesn't matter if she's in there that's the deal she signed up for. Go for the first girl with the approach you feel like starting with. Go for the second 100% all out. lay the third girl.
/r/seduction28/07/16 08:33 PM
7

yes
/r/seduction28/07/16 04:33 PM
3

just saying there is no reason to think of it as beta. just ask her out like in any scenario you would think it is "alpha".
/r/seduction27/07/16 09:12 PM
1

would have been impossible to get her alone. I bet it wouldn't be impossible to get her alone. One solution to not being able to show sexual interest is to follow a more typical approach. Ask her out, take her out, repeat max 3 times before you are at each other's place. Once you are at each other's place it's implied. This morning I had a girl essentially couch surfing my place who needed to go to a conference all day. I told mid way "so are you going to score today?" she looked at me like "did…
/r/seduction27/07/16 08:19 PM
2

I'm 30, as much as I wish I could have done then what I do now I can't. I did what I could then. The only thing I have to regret is what I don't do now.
/r/seduction27/07/16 06:17 PM
12

doesn't matter. you just got out of a relationship the day before class ended.
/r/seduction27/07/16 06:14 PM
1

I agree with ThrowawayPUA, music is best to avoid or tread carefully in. However if it really is a passion then just own it. You could start off the topic in a way that gauges whether or not she is going to want to hear it out.
/r/seduction26/07/16 06:08 PM
1

if you truly don't think women wanting and having sex with who ever they want whenever they want is wrong, then the word slut shouldn't bother you even if it's meant to be derogatory.
/r/seduction26/07/16 01:52 PM
1

After taking an improv class recently I realized that extremely simple and basic things to say or do often work out extremely well if you are creating and open and safe environment to say or do whatever is on your mind. Then I realized if you are judging what you are doing then it is impossible to not judge what others are doing so it is extremely difficult to maintain that safe environment. Being spontaneous is the easiest solution to not give yourself a chance to judge yourself, which forces y…
/r/seduction26/07/16 12:20 PM
1

no I would just explain the basic approach / idea. If you wanted to know the scientific theory behind it then I would explain it.
/r/seduction25/07/16 06:34 PM
1

Tinder is a hook up culture / demographic. So your unique traits are actually attraction points. To get in the right mindset and repair your ego I would recommend the pros. Also the best way to fix your state of mind for approaching etc is to approach. Getting in the right state of mind will be forced. Also you should not be basing your ego off your successes but instead on your genuine honest attempts. Your demographic always exists out there some where. There is always a girl who will go for i…
/r/seduction25/07/16 05:40 PM
1

try different demographics
/r/seduction25/07/16 03:49 PM
0

sounds like she has the shit personality
/r/seduction25/07/16 03:44 PM
1

I remember my friend telling me like 8 years ago that he chatted up a cashier and ended up f'ing her that night. I think he said he hung out with her for like 2 hours, they met up after she got out of work and like 4-6 hours later they were at his house.
/r/seduction25/07/16 02:58 PM
2

I like mark manson's idea of hell yes or hell no. When she comes over and you're mostly interested in sex then go all out and get a hell yes or hell no.
/r/seduction25/07/16 01:55 PM
0

In my experience she is already kissing other guys or it's coming soon.
/r/seduction25/07/16 01:47 PM
1

girls know when you are new you need to get out asap
/r/seduction25/07/16 01:34 PM
8

I'm the mike yes I'm the real mike all you other afc mikes are just imitating so won't the real mike please stand up please stand up
/r/seduction24/07/16 05:19 PM
1

you should have been straight up honest with that girl that asked about pulling. you probably could have had her. That's actually what was on your mind It would have turned her on She was in to you
/r/seduction22/07/16 07:50 PM
1

take mma classes. nobody fights any one that trains, they get the issue resolved.
/r/seduction22/07/16 07:02 PM
1

no excuses. if something ain't new and it ain't working you're wasting you're time.
/r/seduction22/07/16 06:45 PM
0

what's sexy is a girl that has a lust for sex that controls / overwhelms her and a confidence of that she gets it (sex). Normally only fit girls get this but you can tell the girls who used to be thin and had it but then gained some weight but still have it. Those over weight girls are hot. But over weight is a crazy hurdle to get over for a lot of guys.
/r/seduction22/07/16 04:33 PM
1

I would recommend instead of running do a yoga, hip hop or zumba class at least once a week.
/r/seduction22/07/16 04:27 PM
1

ya definitely at least for many girls. the fundamental approach is like learning how to drive. There are pointers / laws / rules / decencies / expectations but otherwise you are just going out and calibrating. Also all the laws / rules etc are frequently broken. The issue is every guy is different and wants different things different ways so everyone needs to calibrate themselves. My approach is actually based off of the science of intelligence and already known knowledge of how learning works a…
/r/seduction22/07/16 03:57 PM
1

you can't control what women will end up doing. best approach is to just be ok that they are going to end up cheating and all the attention you get from them you earned. failure is only good if it was an honest attempt. most guys are not good at seduction, most women are impossible.
/r/seduction22/07/16 03:27 PM
1

I don't tend to care about eye contact. I'd rather brush arms against each other while walking past. If you want them to just look then you walk with swagger. Like some girl you don't even know just called you up and you're on your way to go fuck her brains out right now.
/r/seduction22/07/16 03:16 PM
2

wasn't salvageable bro. the next pussy is going to get crushed. just ask veronica. next girl that puts her hands on your waist is gonna get the taste. and when she's done, she'll be going home with you to celebrate her own little funeral.
/r/seduction22/07/16 02:05 PM
2

omg you are awesome can we hook up
/r/seduction22/07/16 04:11 AM
1

millions of redheads, redheads for me
/r/seduction21/07/16 07:59 PM
1

street walking doesn't mean anything anyways, you can't determine anything from it. I sometimes don't look at girls intentionally while walking because I don't want them to mess with me before I get to where I'm going. Statistically your mood is only going to go down looking at girls at random while walking.
/r/seduction21/07/16 07:48 PM
1

for Jesus haha. ya that was my problem in the beginning, I was out dancing the girls (I take hip hop classes). I would recommend relearning club dancing on the spot by watching others etc, then your styles with merge.
/r/seduction21/07/16 07:12 PM
1

her being your girlfriend is chatting so it begins there. You kind of rejected her by not talking to her there but it'll be worse if you don't talk to her again. I would recommend you do a full blow out talk whatever you can just ask her out and she never returns to that gym again. Have fun with it being a disaster, say what ever's on your mind. Don't prep it, don't wait for the perfect time, imperfect times are the perfect time. Plow through it first sight, no excuses NONE! NONE! Jog right up. …
/r/seduction21/07/16 06:42 PM
4

try with sunglasses first, or even just pictures / movies
/r/seduction21/07/16 06:12 PM
1

The dance itself is not what attracts the girl it is the interaction. You need to interact with them individually, ask them to dance etc. It's also possible to out dance a girl.
/r/seduction21/07/16 06:08 PM
2

If it's too loud put your hand on her and talk in her ear.
/r/seduction21/07/16 05:59 PM
1

do your normal girly way of doing it then let it slip out to him through friends that you like him. then start getting a little touchy and around him more often. Isolate.
/r/seduction21/07/16 04:15 PM
1

flings are more difficult because things have to move fast and that requires skill. Also they tend to be with girls that aren't as good of matches so you need more social dexterity. Long term girlfriends you just eventually find a girl who is a good match who wants to keep going out with you and the pace doesn't have to be very fast and a lot of each other's short comings are forgiven. It's possible to get a long term girlfriend and have zero fling / pick up / etc skills and be 100% clueless abo…
/r/seduction21/07/16 02:19 PM
1

When I was taking tango classes I'd talk to her the entire time we were dancing. Then in between sitting etc we'd talk, then I might leave with one (basically we both leave and then continue with each other. We didn't commit to leaving together, I live in a city where every walks home). I would say since you have to leave early I'd just say (probably with my hand somewhere on her, shoulder, arm, side, maybe hand?) "I have to go home early because of work. You want to go out with me sometime?", m…
/r/seduction21/07/16 01:55 PM
1

Imo the class itself is kind of date. Is there something else you've been wanting to do? Just invite her to that. Pull her aside during the dancing and do some deal closing / rapport building / intention clearing.
/r/seduction20/07/16 09:05 PM
2

call if you can
/r/seduction20/07/16 07:31 PM
1

everyone's got key openers, things they say at certain points etc. Normally they switch it up slightly each time. eventually you find the pattern in what makes openers good etc so you don't pull out the true and tried often.
/r/seduction20/07/16 07:23 PM
1

Girls are very subtle, she was probably literally opening you. Ironic considering, a lot of guys just starting open with the exact same lines and probably give off the same exact impression of uncertain intention.
/r/seduction20/07/16 06:07 PM
1

Most important - there is no perfect time, less than perfect times ARE the perfect time. Warm her up a tiny bit, let her feel it then ask it like you own it.
/r/seduction20/07/16 06:01 PM
1

the advanced classes are older girls / women but the intro classes have younger women. Definitely for learning a partnered dance salsa and swing are a lot better.
/r/seduction20/07/16 03:46 PM
1

ya
/r/seduction20/07/16 03:28 PM
1

Flings are a lot more difficult. If you are interested I could coach for free.
/r/seduction20/07/16 03:16 PM
1

do one of those 95 degree yoga's where everyone is barely wearing anything.
/r/seduction20/07/16 02:40 PM
1

I tried to get the reason out of my first girlfriend and never could. I'd settle for just having a call with her every once in a grand while.
/r/seduction20/07/16 02:28 PM
2

she was bumping in to you on the way to the car and then put her arms around your waist. She'd have probably gone home with you even though you think you did poorly. She might have just said the funeral line to skip the quizo. You shouldn't question if or why a girl likes you and don't let bad logistics trip you up, try to keep the vibe that there are good logistics even though there aren't and then normally opportunities will be figured out.
/r/seduction20/07/16 01:58 PM
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she wanted to kiss at the end but you didn't go for it. You should just say sorry I should have kissed you at the end, I haven't been on a date in 3 years and then just leave it. This doesn't sound salvageable and it wasn't really anyone's fault.
/r/seduction20/07/16 11:34 AM
1

no let her know where it screwed up for her too.
/r/seduction19/07/16 11:42 PM
1

you met in person outside your house? I'd recommend meeting in a place where there are lounge couches / chairs and alcohol so you can sandwich her. Almost it might be a good idea to meet in a strip club. Also you three already wanted to have sex with each other, you should have kept pulling the conversation back to sexual related topics if she was going business. Ask her if she wants to f her boss, or ever tinders on her trips, or if she's ever had all three holes filled in at once, if she was w…
/r/seduction19/07/16 08:39 PM
2

always try to get whatever you can. consider letting her know some too.
/r/seduction19/07/16 07:18 PM
6

I was about to say partnered dance classes like tango are actually virtually just nerdy shy girls who are looking hook up even if just for the duration of the class / dancing.
/r/seduction19/07/16 07:12 PM
2

Glorifying the company of women as being some sacred, pure thing (i.e. "don't let it be the company of a PAID STRIPPER!!") is half his mental block. I agree anyone who thinks the pros aren't women has just identified a serious issue. They are some of the biggest sweethearts on the planet and have more of the right mindset for pick up than anyone.
/r/seduction19/07/16 06:42 PM
2

I've lived in india for over a year but I was not trying then, but visited recently. From what I can tell some do hook up but it has to be in the context of potential for long term. However I do know that truly all kinds of indians exist. Their culture is very suppressive regarding hooking up and the nuclear family lifestyle leaves most women without a choice. On the flip side they are very good at hiding it, but their attraction for a white foreigner is completely off the fucking charts. A whit…
/r/seduction19/07/16 06:29 PM
2

Imo this is already in the rejection bin. And like every opportunity that is falling apart you should do one last bold blow out for an official yes or no, something new you can learn off of. If yes then do it otherwise find another girl where you basically start off the bat with a sexual type relationship.
/r/seduction19/07/16 01:43 PM
1

shit picking up in india would be a dream
/r/seduction19/07/16 12:39 PM
1

for real man you just have to follow the basic approach of getting a girlfriend. ask her out, take her out, keep asking and taking her out. Seducing women is crazy difficult but just getting a girlfriend is pretty basic. My first two girlfriends had aspergers too and it took me a year of effort before the first one and 6 months of effort before the second one. My second girlfriend literally spoke less often than I did. I recommend removing sugar from your diet, go to the gym and do every muscle …
/r/seduction19/07/16 12:27 PM
1

I used the dimple one when I was hitting on the sun tanning girl before. She told me about moving her butt around to make sure it got tanned. I already know the tan one could work because I stepped through an offshoot on the phone. If you think the context is good use it.
/r/seduction18/07/16 06:40 PM
1

just go do phone and practice making her cum. talktome.com actually has a thing where you hook up with random girls based on a short intro message. If you can't seduce her in that short message she will not call up with you. Most of the girls who do it there do it not for the money but because they enjoy it. Some admit they're willing to pay but that's just not how it works.
/r/seduction18/07/16 04:22 PM
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Not everything about aspergers is a con, there are at least as many equal or better pros. If you read models then you know about being polarizing. You know what your pro's are, capitalize and develop those to the max and just polarize. If you have aspergers and you know it then that is only to your advantage. Otherwise the things you have to overcome and accomplish are exactly the same. You think not having aspergers would guarantee you women? I'm pretty sure I have at least some aspergers and a…
/r/seduction18/07/16 02:20 PM
1

it's crazy no matter how skilled and experienced you are if you temporarily lose your confidence girls will treat you like the most vile deplorable trash there is, complete square zero. It's the #1 thing you have to maintain / build up / protect at all times.
/r/seduction18/07/16 01:51 PM
1

mma, sky diving, bungee jumping, extreme traveling like a trip to india, dance classes, yoga, doing youtube style pranks out in public, karaoke, improv / stand up comedy / acting classes, move to an urban no car lifestyle city philly / nyc / san fran, start business, get a good degree / job, learn a second language, live in the country of that second language for awhile, etc.
/r/seduction18/07/16 12:57 PM
0

I would recommend you practice dirty talk with a phone sex girl. I get the suspicion you've never spoke real dirty talk in your life.
/r/seduction18/07/16 12:37 PM
2

having sexual subtext in casual chat doesn't complete knowing if a jump to just straight up talking about it will work. Innuendos or sexual 3rd party topics can let you see / play around with exactly where she's at but innuendos are more difficult to invent than just having some sexual type "neutral" topics to bring up. This isn't intended for a night scene where the girls either are looking for it or not. It's meant for day scene where you're trying to get a gauge of where she's at quickly and …
/r/seduction18/07/16 04:28 AM
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lol it's virtually genius. Do you go to the beach? - 100% legit question to ask in the summer. Asking about getting rid of tan lines - 100% legit question to follow up with, building tension. So you have cute little tan lines running around you? BAM straight up good dirty talk that gets you talking about, complimenting, and getting the conversation straight into her pussy and tits area. Then a full follow up sexual banter about tanning salons (if her response was good).
/r/seduction18/07/16 04:13 AM
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Thought of this one - You go to the beach? So you ever do tanning to get rid of the tan lines? So you have cute little tan lines running around you? If you get talking about tanning salons mention how sweaty and naked you get in there. And that you heard you have to shift around your butt cheeks or they won't get any blood flow. And if they don't get blood flow then they don't get tanned. The care of her butt cheeks is very important to you. (or then she'll have very cute no tan butt cheek dimpl…
/r/seduction18/07/16 12:46 AM
0

This is from personal experience. I originally tried to make friends with girls based on hobbies / common interests and really never had one my entire life. Then after I had a mild sexual under tone I can probably friend almost any girl.
/r/seduction18/07/16 12:44 AM
2

Your success rate for "do you want to dance" will go up significantly with a just few sentences before it.
/r/seduction17/07/16 08:26 PM
2

you have to chat her up a little bit before asking her to dance.
/r/seduction17/07/16 05:26 PM
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You called her mam and touched her thigh when meeting her on a train? damn. I'm surprised so many logical type statements worked. "Nothing is going to happen ..." is a bad word phrasing because inside that sentence is the sentence "nothing is going to happen". I would honestly go with "everything is going to happen unless you don't want it to" instead of that if it was my only choice. "What's the worst that could happen? Everything? Unless you don't want it to"
/r/seduction17/07/16 05:15 PM
1

her being sexual is a vibe that you instill. But her taking risks will happen if you are also taking risks. however if you aren't nurturing her risks and getting knee jerky because you can't open yourself up (because you don't trust) then she will retract instead of opening up and building on with that subtle flow of the moment.
/r/seduction17/07/16 03:37 AM
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The last time I was in the club I finally figured out the approach you should take. Basically just run around to all the women opening up a little to get to know them a little, be a friend and escalate and eventually (if not quickly) you stumble on to one of many girls who are just responsive and a good match. Then try to make it happen. You don't even have to work that much on conversation flow and confidence etc. you just have to run around to all the girls, get to know them a tiny bit and you…
/r/seduction17/07/16 03:18 AM
1

Women have different hang ups than men. I don't know how a gay dude who never seduced women would know how to get through those.
/r/seduction17/07/16 03:13 AM
1

moments pass less often than you think
/r/seduction17/07/16 02:48 AM
1

that's what my brother did.
/r/seduction17/07/16 02:46 AM
1

every time it's basically falling apart always use this opportunity to try something new, some high risk attempt etc. Sounds like she is moving on because you didn't f her, she thinks you're long term material and she wants short term material.
/r/seduction16/07/16 03:18 PM
1

become friends with your sister and have her help you f her friends. imagine if your sister came up to you and said I want to fuck your friend, you'd probably say OK let me help this happen.
/r/seduction16/07/16 03:07 PM
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start just having fun doing whatever you want. Bring a sex novel with you and ask her about a sex scene you are about to read to her.
/r/seduction16/07/16 03:01 PM
0

I wouldn't call high school a class environment, it's a high school environment.
/r/seduction16/07/16 02:59 PM
1

you can go there with the confidence that girls are looking to hook up, so you can just go for it.
/r/seduction16/07/16 02:55 PM
1

pay more attention during the night out
/r/seduction16/07/16 02:53 PM
2

They both actually try for women. From what I've seen even lesbians can't believe how difficult women are.
/r/seduction16/07/16 12:17 PM
3

I'm not sure I recently figured out when girls talk to me I have random knee jerk reactions where I essentially retract and I never knew it was actually a micro shoot down. Then I realized it is actually because of a sub level tension / anxiety and I found if I commit to trusting her when this happens I lighten up, and when I lighten up she begins talking more. Literally all I say in my head is just "trust", I don't attach it to anything particular.
/r/seduction15/07/16 11:58 PM
3

I'm beginning to get better at giving the vibe that girls can say what's on their mind, say what they are thinking next. So I figure if you master that completely you could have her straight up leading it entirely. It definitely helps a thousand times to have her run the conversation and interaction too.
/r/seduction15/07/16 11:22 PM
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basic but complete. would be interested in the foreplay before the making out.
/r/seduction15/07/16 10:13 PM
1

I found her on linked in and sent her this - so we'll see Hey Shuhua I thought about it and we shouldn't have shook hands when we left, we should have hugged. Even friends hug, that was kind of cruel. I didn't notice at the time that you were probably asking me out on a date, i would love to date if you still want to. However please be honest with me, no more sorry if I was misleading you or you have a boyfriend ;p I don't know what I'm supposed to do if your not honest. Games are only fun if we…
/r/seduction15/07/16 05:06 PM
1

lol I'm just kidding I've never tried those before. The second one is an off shoot of preemptively killing LMR long before you get to it. An offshoot of the first might actually work really good though. I would recommend any observation that struck you about the room / what's going on. Just don't open with "Hey", "How's it going", or "my name is".
/r/seduction15/07/16 01:40 PM
2

Hey, I'm kind of introverted and don't have a lot of social energy so, you wanna go fuck? Can't you stop thinking about getting married and having kids for one single night?
/r/seduction15/07/16 12:43 PM
1

actually I've done it before and they really like it. they don't tend to be good at giving advice but you can get a good sense of things from their general reactions. Also I think it could possibly be a good opener for asking them if you word things right. She'd already know you're successful, how your mind works regarding women and that you're willing to (and already started a relationship with her of) be able to talk things through, you already made the context with her sexual / relational, an…
/r/seduction15/07/16 12:37 PM
1

Yes however when you are outcome independent basically when you make a proposal you fully formally hand the reigns over to her. This is why she is more likely to do it, or at least be willing to do it later, because she is leading it. By that point you already legitimately escalated with her so when she decides no she knows it's not because she didn't want to. But you're letting her make the decision / take the lead. And if you do everything in the spirit of outcome independent essentially you h…
/r/seduction15/07/16 12:32 PM
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In my experience they are actually more difficult to get with than typical hot girls and are more likely to take very wild turns etc. They seem like they should be easier because they are "more like you" but from what I've seen the best route is always to just fix and improve yourself and then go for women who fixed and improved themselves. I don't even see one ounce of compatibility with extroverted women No matter how good you get or how much of a rock star you are you can't know your capabili…
/r/seduction15/07/16 12:19 PM
1

congrats
/r/seduction15/07/16 02:10 AM
2

ya I was about to say, need to cut down on the emojis. I'm the same way. after every message see if you think it would still be acceptable without and if so take it out, it's almost guaranteed better without it. It actually implies sincerity, assertiveness, and getting in her business to take them out which is actually more attractive. You'll see after you hit send. don't remove them all since that is who you are, but even with girls who use a lot of emoji's it's still more attractive to use les…
/r/seduction14/07/16 07:13 PM
1

sometimes I wonder even if you are 100% straight, by being a true pick up artist you are essentially more apart of the LGBT crowd than the regular crowd. I could recommend bi or lesbian but not gay.
/r/seduction14/07/16 06:56 PM
1

you verbalized everything I am currently trying to fight. LMR is a social conditioning. I actually just noticed reading this all of seduction might boil down to simply just getting her turned on and essentially either killing or meeting social conditioning / LMR constraints. Some of these constraints are virtually if not literally impossible to meet. You have to be able to line them up and shoot them dead. Made me think I should put together a lot of LMR killing conversations and run around havi…
/r/seduction14/07/16 06:30 PM
1

one important thing about making a girl comfortable is when she is in a moment of not feeling it you don't want to impress yourself on her. It's okay if she's not feeling it or feeling rejecty for a moment but you need to just back off at that moment, let it pass. It's not intentionally a test but you'll pass it big time if you just take a step back. If you impose yourself at this moment, then she'll feel like you are being a monster.
/r/seduction14/07/16 04:25 PM
1

I could only suggest just start taking your clothes off shirt first.
/r/seduction14/07/16 04:01 PM
1

maybe watching it on tv is main stream however those going out and doing real pick up, or going out and doing real getting picked up are still pretty few. There is no way to spin it, it's an extreme sport and only a small % of any population do extreme sports.
/r/seduction14/07/16 03:57 PM
1

One thing I thought that is if she wasn't ready to "just kiss" then she wasn't ready to "just be asked" and I need to focus on prepping it to a point where we could just kiss. I noticed afterwards she was actually leading everything until the end. Actually she even led it at the end, she asked me to go back out again. So it made me think she would have essentially initiated or at least got the iron super hot to strike I just would have needed to stick around long enough. I thought about when she…
/r/seduction14/07/16 02:55 PM
1

honestly man thank god someone responded this event was going to kill me. I actually have what I think are a lot of good things I could have said and after reading I think the turning point was actually at the car back, and that we didn't go to my place, not at the end. but a lot of classic mistakes like putting all the pressure on the very last moment. I'm thinking I should have tried to maybe sit on a bench before going up or a bench afterwards. ... Some things I could have said afterwards - I…
/r/seduction14/07/16 02:34 PM
2

more less never say sorry, just stop doing whatever it was
/r/seduction13/07/16 03:24 PM
2

Anyone know how I fucked this up?
/r/seduction13/07/16 01:51 PM
2

I saw signs in the bus etc that would say like "PLEASE exit here." etc but I could only read the word "PLEASE"
/r/seduction13/07/16 05:24 AM
2

trust me m8 it can be a lot worse. You should be happy you had a great time with her on the trip. Consider her dead m8, you had an amazing time with a girl who is now dead.
/r/seduction12/07/16 07:54 PM
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The first time can be literally impossible but ONLY the first time. Literally just the second one can happen almost immediately after. The best thing is to make a list of all the literal micro steps IE: get up from bench one foot in front of other until your standing in front of her say line After you made a list of the steps, then check out which one's you can technically simplify or rehearse. If you know girls always stand around a certain corner then rehearse walking up to that corner when no…
/r/seduction12/07/16 06:35 PM
1

in some ways it doesn't matter.
/r/seduction12/07/16 06:25 PM
1

Yes lol false positives would be girls who sleep with you when you did things that shouldn't have led to them sleeping with you. Exactly lol then you would not know that you can't do the same thing in a general setting. Another thing in game theory is the idea of always trying would be a dominant strategy. No matter what state you and her are in, with the list of actions you can take and the list she can take, the action you can take which will always result in the best outcome (no matter what s…
/r/seduction12/07/16 06:15 PM
1

I think people are naturally attracted those who are actually simpler
/r/seduction12/07/16 06:05 PM
1

I don't have time to set up anything with her or even meet. If I knew how to tell her I don't have time to really do anything, and she still wanted to make it work then I'd be willing to get her number.
/r/seduction12/07/16 04:45 PM
1

I noticed the same issue with lesser attractive women. I think they're lack of confidence means they take your compliment as an insult or that you must be obviously trying to just manipulate them.
/r/seduction12/07/16 04:22 PM
1

You should have talked up some of "unattractive" girls up to get your game rolling and get some momentum.
/r/seduction12/07/16 04:05 PM
1

you shouldn't have ended there. what is callback humor? This is the disaster of texting, you can never really know why it went wrong.
/r/seduction12/07/16 04:00 PM
1

Do you think projecting a vibe of "you're a keeper" as well as "it's going to happen tonight and possibly just tonight" and getting accepted for both might make her reject tonight in an attempt to try and get to keep you even though she would have gone for just tonight?
/r/seduction12/07/16 03:44 PM
0

my opinion is girls of other races are genuine but white girls are all f'ed up with infrastructure and expectations etc. You just happened to stumble on one of the things that just work with them that would "otherwise make no sense" and isn't really natural. All girls like to be teased though. I wouldn't be surprised if white women actually enjoy / prefer straight up being treated poorly. I won't treat a girl poorly so I will never know. Also this is american white women, european / australian e…
/r/seduction12/07/16 02:00 PM
0

In my experience so far, build your skill with girls walking because they are virtually impossible but then use that same mindset for "approaching" girls in more casual common scenarios like while you're both waiting in a lobby for the same thing etc. From what I can tell the best you can get is a number from a girl walking which isn't unreasonable, but even just a date on the spot is very difficult.
/r/seduction12/07/16 03:28 AM
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This fills in a lot of major gaps in my understanding. I knew how to be platonic and I knew how to escalate but I did not know when and how I could / should jump between them. Also the double meaning lines are awesome. Those are hard to come up with. I feel like I should have paid to read this because it's questionably the final pieces I needed to put in place and I wasn't seeing how I was going to figure it out. Thanks already helped just tonight
/r/seduction12/07/16 03:23 AM
3

strange that telling them you work in IT makes them more interested. For me it's a guaranteed conversation killer.
/r/seduction11/07/16 07:54 PM
2

you're a photographer. you're job is almost literally to get girls fired up then take pictures of them. it's actually your job to be hitting on them. quit making excuses, get professional
/r/seduction11/07/16 04:14 PM
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Imo this is why hooking up with girls of different cultures is vastly more natural and simple and healthy.
/r/seduction11/07/16 01:43 PM
1

Basically it assumes we are learning machines therefor the problem becomes a learning machine problem. So if it was a learning machine problem we would want to collect a lot of data of a lot of different attempts towards the goal. Then we would want to identify features (time of day, her age, her ethnicity, her attraction level, how we met etc). Then we would want to iterate over the data. So basically all you simply have to do is make a list of all the different venues and ways you can interact…
/r/seduction10/07/16 03:16 AM
5

ya but you asked her out and took her on a date despite being jittering wreck and got to hug her at the end. sounds like you completely steam rolled where you are at right now. also sounds like nothing really went wrong it just wasn't as good as you were hoping. it sounds like you're both on the same page. you should call her and chat her up, undo that bad feeling with a good chat.
/r/seduction10/07/16 02:50 AM
1

When I was in college I started just approaching essentially all the hot girls at the gym. Half obviously never came back. One I totally fucking blew it (hot chick who I just straight up asked for her number, I called her and she invited me to her sorority and I was too scared to not go out with just her alone. A year later I called again just to apologize and found out she was really fucking in to me and it was meant to work, but now she had moved). Another I chatted up and asked if she knew of…
/r/seduction09/07/16 11:39 PM
4

sounds like you did pretty awesome tbh. keep it up
/r/seduction09/07/16 11:29 PM
1

erm so basically after every rise must come a fall? and every fall a rise?
/r/seduction09/07/16 08:33 PM
1

I was about to say if he chooses to do it get ready to be family.
/r/seduction09/07/16 07:03 PM
1

2 years ago is a long time. Unless something half particular was between them seems like it COULD be ok, especially if its not serious. It depends on your mindset really. One could easily do a friend's (very) old girlfriend and it be cool.
/r/seduction09/07/16 07:02 PM
1

You teach AI? My approach to learning how to pick up is actually based entirely off of AI. It may very well be the most fullest and complete guaranteed approach to learning pick up that is possible. I am planning to write about it once I hit a few milestones.
/r/seduction09/07/16 06:48 PM
1

In high school I remember your reputation is the main driving force. You don't get to just turn everything around. I would recommend he get a car and just start going for girls from other nearby schools of all ages. Also omegle and omeglepervy should be incredible places to practice if you are still in high school.
/r/seduction09/07/16 06:40 PM
1

I already did imagine now I want to do it
/r/seduction09/07/16 12:52 PM
1

haha it's confident, legit, and will make her wet. I don't know how you could suggest any conventional approach with no experience. A shit ton will be learned either way, almost want to try it myself.
/r/seduction08/07/16 08:11 PM
3

9-1 girls prefer to be the pet I'm a overweight 24 year old male. Decent looks, muscle under the fat, but no real sexual experience. I'm a chef. I could make a fancy dinner for her then fuck her brains out. I want to suggest going up and just telling her this
/r/seduction08/07/16 07:32 PM
1

I am trying to master single interactions and just what is possible. i want to be able to hook up while away, or if I just have a few hours some where etc.
/r/seduction08/07/16 07:28 PM
1

How do you take a single meet on the street to a kiss or making out within two hours? What type of drills / exercises would you recommend to improve your ability to do that?
/r/seduction08/07/16 06:09 PM
1

aww yisssss
/r/seduction08/07/16 06:02 PM
4

I assume she gets hit on a lot and figures I'd do the same if she makes eye contact. Know when you are making a wild ass assumption. You don't have to have an answer for everything. Also never assume anything with 100% certainty, 80% at max. Approach her.
/r/seduction08/07/16 04:14 PM
10

like guys who text too much, girls who expect to be texted a lot are going to have a lot of trouble. texting just doesn't work, it doesn't have enough feedback and there is too much assumption. yes you'll miss some girls who you could have texted a lot but they need to learn too
/r/seduction08/07/16 03:30 PM
8

I didn't mean you I was just saying
/r/seduction08/07/16 03:26 PM
1

Can i get the girl's number?
/r/seduction08/07/16 02:34 PM
166

12 . Stop any contact if you realize you are frienzoned Know when she isn't what you're here for. But be a friend before you leave ffs unless she's rude she didn't do anything wrong.
/r/seduction08/07/16 02:23 PM
1

thanks been looking for more single meet street kiss etc breakdowns
/r/seduction08/07/16 01:57 PM
1

if online isn't working go out in person and improve your game. everyone has their venue that they do best in.
/r/seduction08/07/16 01:48 PM
2

more important than remembering names - know when to even get the name and know how to ask / get it again. IE: when getting the number give her your phone and have her fill in the details / name etc. And when you text her first say "hey it's Eshrak" to possibly get her to do something similar.
/r/seduction08/07/16 01:45 PM
1

do you at least have privacy with the air mattress? or is he ever out? you have her place.
/r/seduction07/07/16 08:29 PM
31

never conclude anything from a movie
/r/seduction07/07/16 08:24 PM
2

hell ya friday night is awesome. Might be good to ask first if she wants to meet up "some night" to get a yes, then suggest friday night, saturday etc.
/r/seduction07/07/16 03:42 PM
3

call, text if she doesn't answer. call tonight not saturday. jump on it.
/r/seduction07/07/16 03:30 PM
1

do something like lead it to the couch first. hug when you first meet etc, escalate. remember that she plans to f so break through some barriers.
/r/seduction07/07/16 03:23 PM
2

dump in her your mind. she was a loser, that's the only reason you couldn't impress her.
/r/seduction07/07/16 03:04 PM
1

crash through a few interactions genuinely trying without thinking and being spontaneous.
/r/seduction07/07/16 01:48 PM
1

You need to go out and have fun trying to pick up. Just going out to have just fun won't work. I almost had a super shitty night that probably would have fucked up my whole week but I doubled back to her and we made better ending to leave with. I think the issue is probably exactly the same, you probably started the night off with a bad mental state. You can't get told you're going to be fired then expect it to play out great when you go out. My suggestion is write the night off and know you're …
/r/seduction07/07/16 03:07 AM
1

you're pretty much just going to have to make creepy touches. it's learned fast though so long as you're trying.
/r/seduction07/07/16 02:55 AM
1

I've never used tinder. I'd probably just try to get her on the phone because I'm good on the phone.
/r/seduction06/07/16 09:04 PM
1

I'm afraid that might come off as too thirsty Girls are a lot dirtier than you think. Try some stuff.
/r/seduction06/07/16 08:09 PM
1

Do you have a break down on why you think it ended up in sex and not just a good night / kiss / make out etc?
/r/seduction06/07/16 07:55 PM
1

What's possible in less than 5 minutes, 30 minutes, 2 hours, and what you need to do to master that.
/r/seduction06/07/16 06:35 PM
1

haha I have no clue how I wrote answer. seems I meant to write call.
/r/seduction06/07/16 06:01 PM
2

probably looking for long term girls in the wrong place
/r/seduction06/07/16 04:37 PM
1

I think no matter what age you are hooking up girls your age are more difficult because there is the added complexity that you might be good long term partners. Also girls tend to always have experience with older guys. If it's a 30 yr old with a 20 yr old it's highly likely it's just for sex and that simplifies it. Even if it's simplified though the shear experience helps you hook up with girls your own age.
/r/seduction06/07/16 04:32 PM
1

I'm in a kind of similar situation. I asked for the number and was ignored. I was thinking to offer mine to be given to her instead. If you answer and get a girl schmooze her up too to the point she'd essentially recommend you to the apprentice, then tell her that you thought the apprentice was really cute and you'd love to take her out. DON'T mention that "you forgot to ask" before. Just elaborate more about the apprentice if you have to. Either way call and try. I would ask when you could call…
/r/seduction06/07/16 03:15 PM
1

This. Most times just roll as if you didn't and given a little bit of time it's completely forgotten. Might be a good idea to provide some sort of up / complement / joke etc and definitely hope you don't make another mistake at least in the very near future. Mistakes happen, both parties are trying to make it work. Don't be the one who makes your mistake be the reason YOU tank it.
/r/seduction06/07/16 02:58 PM
1

never look back, the future is all you have to potentially regret. Lay that girl when you go to drink and chat up a girl on the way to the bar. Get the girl's number on the flight's seat back and kino the flight attendant while you have to go around her for the bathroom.
/r/seduction06/07/16 02:46 PM
19

fucking hero
/r/seduction06/07/16 02:40 PM
7

what women don't like about "neediness" is that men approach with demands essentially, which is awesome, but then they don't earn them, still ok, but then they NEED them anyways and present their need as the reason the girl has to give it anyways. That's what will get you chucked out of the window by most girls. Be patient, open minded, trusting, and earn (normally not much more difficult than just genuinely attempting / showing intention) it.
/r/seduction06/07/16 02:29 PM
1

make friendships and pursue it and eventually one will pursue it back then you both end up on the same team and it just happens. Maybe only independent movies can be close to how it is in real life but they always skip huge portions of the interactions which are always the most important.
/r/seduction06/07/16 02:23 PM
7

Imo you don't need to be less needy. You can be just as needy as you want. The issue is you have to earn what you want and make it as good for her too.
/r/seduction06/07/16 02:08 PM
2

I do kind of micro street performances. Definitely important
/r/seduction06/07/16 02:03 PM
1

seduction is needed for hooking up fast, social skills are for things more long term. If you are wanting an amazing time with a pro or a super fast hook up at the club then you need mostly pure seduction skills. Otherwise for most other girls you need a conversation mainly as a fuel while you seduce in her in the car. If the car stops, everyone gets out. It doesn't have to be a deep conversation, it can be (and probably should be) more less bullshit.
/r/seduction06/07/16 01:50 PM
1

so long as the food you are eating is preservative free non processed garbage it doesn't matter. I eat 2 meals for lunch and 2 for dinner and I'm essentially cut. And I eat whatever I want (I eat nothing boxed), if there is a lot of fat on the meat I tell them to keep it. The only time I was ever fat was when I drank a lot of soda.
/r/seduction06/07/16 01:40 PM
2

If she is a girl that is willing to wait for you through text then it won't matter too much what you say. However there really is no text "game", so much is lost in texting that break down is inevitable. You should call her.
/r/seduction05/07/16 08:32 PM
15

Make one but don't use it. Everyone else will add and use it for you. To use facebook instead of just getting a number and calling is to make it clear to her you aren't bold enough.
/r/seduction05/07/16 08:12 PM
2

I wouldn't assess too much from women you see on the street etc. They have agenda's / places to go etc and you are literally sampling women randomly from the entire woman base. It's very complicated their state in life / day etc and how you can do something with that as a stranger interrupting them while walking to somewhere. Unless you're like walking around campus, or a mall etc where there are expectations of getting approached etc. Also how women are looking at you while walking around is no…
/r/seduction05/07/16 07:47 PM
0

talk to her just a little bit more to show both of you that you are a good person and then say good bye
/r/seduction05/07/16 06:06 PM
0

Work within the truth that you only have a short window to ask her out. She gets it, she'll give you the number so you can call later. Also remember, fuck the line you two are hooking up, they can wait. Call her. Imo if she picks up you're already going out. Have (steal) a good chat with her and ask her out.
/r/seduction05/07/16 04:59 PM
1

If you are looking more less to just hook up then being unique and yourself is the goal. People are looking to hook up with new and unique people even if that uniqueness is another league, so long as they have the confidence and kept'ness to follow through.
/r/seduction05/07/16 04:50 PM
1

you don't have to work out more than once a week if you don't want to but you have to eat a high protein diet (preferably real meat). From what I can tell yes overly skinny is the least of the three preferred. Being slightly fat is actually questionably most preferred.
/r/seduction05/07/16 04:47 PM
1

ask them for favors. if you can get them to give a favor, even if trivial, you got them committed.
/r/seduction05/07/16 03:59 PM
1

the street is by far the hardest place. I would recommend hip hop classes then watch some videos on what to do at the clubs then just go do it. Girls there are actually there to meet guys so you can do everything with full confidence.
/r/seduction05/07/16 03:55 PM
2

to my understanding using online only will never work. Using online requires your developed offline game because you are basically using your offline game but with limited feedback. Also you shouldn't be trying to game in text. Text is a major communication break down and always detriments a connection, use it only to setup meets or calls.
/r/seduction05/07/16 03:48 PM
1

You should take a work out class (yoga / zumba / hip hop / mma etc) and work out every muscle at least once a week. Also eliminate all sugar from your diet. Sounds like you have a confidence issue and this should be your starting point.
/r/seduction05/07/16 03:41 PM
2

If you're talking with everyone and being funny then you pretty much already made it. Just make some goals (girlfriend / SNL / FWB / etc) and then just go get it.
/r/seduction05/07/16 03:25 PM
3

sounds like it's written by a dude
/r/seduction03/07/16 03:10 AM
1

practice with the pros with cam / phone
/r/seduction03/07/16 03:02 AM
1

Thanks, The complication is a lot of comfort game and expanding on who you are seems boring and hard to keep / make a high escalation with. Normally when I approach it is high escalation super quick and keeping it there. Maybe a good response would just be to answer it as honestly and fully as possible almost as a joke. Just totally go down the list of trying to describe who you are, what you do, etc real quick and then give her puppy dog eyes that you don't know what else to do help me out. The…
/r/seduction02/07/16 03:13 PM
1

If it was a shit test what would be the response?
/r/seduction02/07/16 02:53 PM
1

This girl was in my arms and our time together was really short (possibly less than 30 minutes). And she eventually kissed me shortly afterwards. I really think she was just being honest. Also it's pretty rare anyone genuinely doesn't like the other person. Normally it's either something they are doing at the time or the other person is doing at the time and the conditions just need to change a little. Also kind of technically impossible to not like something you don't know yet.
/r/seduction02/07/16 02:52 PM
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If you're already in the right mindset etc then you don't need to meditate.
/r/seduction01/07/16 05:56 PM
1

Kuala Lumpur sounds amazing
/r/seduction01/07/16 03:10 PM
2

no lol it does not mean "I don't like you". It would mean not yet, I am liking you so far but I need more. I just wondering what, more time of the same thing? Something that makes it clear you're invested enough so you won't disappear after getting "what you want"? Meeting again in a different environment? Seeing how you act around her friends? A lot of that can certainly be jumped to quicker if you know what helps a girl "know you".
/r/seduction01/07/16 02:47 PM
3

Sounds like you'd be stuck at her place.
/r/seduction01/07/16 03:33 AM
1

They don't know and they don't care. They do know and they do care. You don't have to manipulate them, get on the same page and be nice, make them feel good etc.
/r/seduction01/07/16 02:54 AM
1

Imo genuine pickup is probably the most extreme sport. It in fact normally implies you do other extreme sports. Everyone can definitely get a girlfriend but I don't think everyone is capable of taking a girl from 2 hours on the street to bed. Not that it is strictly impossible, but from where they are starting from and the energy / time they have to work it's not logistically / statistically possible. It's like saying everyone is capable of being a brown / black belt. Most will do the work to ge…
/r/seduction30/06/16 08:55 PM
1

seems slightly red pillish It’s good news for men, however, because THERE ARE VERY FEW MEN THAT SUCCEED IN ALL OF THESE AREAS. Only for the guys who can manage. I'm not convinced all guys can be true pick up artists, it's like saying everyone can be black / brown belts. Definitely all guys should be able to get a girlfriend though. Some guys are physically attractive but they are fucking idiots and losers in life. I know guys who are idiots / losers and are some of the biggest pick up artists, c…
/r/seduction30/06/16 08:20 PM
25

mind bogglingly simpler.
/r/seduction30/06/16 08:04 PM
2

sounds like you have every reason to be able to go out and assume they will like / want you. you just need to stick to / practice on the very specific goal, keep assessing what went wrong and try again. All the inner game will fall into place in the process.
/r/seduction30/06/16 06:48 PM
1

I'm 5'8", just go for girls shorter than you, there are a shit ton.
/r/seduction30/06/16 04:23 PM
2

best not to try and solve everything with approaches alone. You could for instance just focus on conquering fears. Try rock climbing / MMA / sky diving etc depending on where you are at. I would highly recommend headspace 's guided meditation. It helps you separate yourself from anxieties etc.
/r/seduction30/06/16 04:09 PM
1

smart
/r/seduction30/06/16 02:18 PM
2

I agree it's ironic but the pro's are essentially the best teacher money has anything to do with. If you think it's creepy to "pay for" then you just don't understand what it really is. You pay for them making themselves available all day on YOUR TIME, and to skip 90% of the courting. You're not paying for the last 10%, that's you and her as if you had met anywhere else.
/r/seduction30/06/16 02:03 PM
1

If you want to lose weight eliminate sugar in your diet PERIOD. Then take either work out yoga classes or hip hop / zumba type dance classes. It's less about your "drunk self" than just being spontaneous. You got to start listing fears and just smash through them. Literally just go down the list of just asking a girl to kiss, make out, fuck. Blurt out stupid shit. Don't be angry though. You'll find people are actually tolerant of WAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more than you'd expect and shit often works. …
/r/seduction30/06/16 12:54 PM
2

You can say almost anything you want whenever you want so long as you say it right.
/r/seduction30/06/16 12:45 PM
1

In the boring regular places. College isn't a super awesome place to find a LTR. Honestly as someone who had only LTR's through college etc you are making a big mistake, if you go the LTR route you are going to end up broken up and having no clue how to hook up in a world of girls who have been doing it for a decade.
/r/seduction30/06/16 12:41 PM
1

So far I've found day game is much better when it's unexpected not sought after. IE: you're just waiting for the subway and you just so happened to end up sitting beside a hot girl so you said something and then it barrel rolled. Or you're at the gym with the intention of actually cooling down and not approaching, but then some girl is giving you the look and you decide to walk up. However you will not really be able to game when you're not intending to game unless you've tried gaming when you w…
/r/seduction30/06/16 12:36 PM
2

not 100% true, "learned helplessness" does exist - https://youarenotsosmart.com/2009/11/11/learned-helplessness/
/r/seduction30/06/16 12:32 PM
1

I already tried to just kiss her like 3 or 4 times but she backed off each time.
/r/seduction30/06/16 11:48 AM
1

Thanks, I think two of the major reasons are because I am already on a high from something totally different (mediating and singing in the street) so I don't need a high from them. Also although I am doing this with the intention of going the whole way I am also doing this just to see how they really react to different things. So any kind of response is exactly what I am hoping for. The third is probably because when they make it clear they want to split I immediately stop in my head and let the…
/r/seduction29/06/16 06:55 PM
2

I use headspace. You can download the old version for free. The new version is better though. I also go to free group meditations sometimes.
/r/seduction29/06/16 04:22 PM
1

Street approaching is the most difficult. Go to a place where girls are looking to meet guys. Take some dance classes and yogas classes etc.
/r/seduction29/06/16 04:15 PM
1

If you were killing it essentially your social circle would be your girls and here and there friends relating to it all. I think the social circle you are thinking of could actually be an inhibitor. One good friend to wing / help you figure shit out though is pretty important.
/r/seduction29/06/16 02:54 PM
1

do whatever you want or don't.
/r/seduction29/06/16 12:38 PM
2

Sounds like you are looking for a LTR in the wrong place in the wrong country lol. American women are world renown for being terrible LTR choices.
/r/seduction28/06/16 08:03 PM
2

Yes mediation and yoga are key.
/r/seduction28/06/16 07:20 PM
1

I'm assuming you want girls to sleep with you who don't think you are a perfect match though? If you want to join the club you need to give too. Best way to get in to the right mentality too.
/r/seduction28/06/16 04:54 PM
1

don't wait more than a day for a first contact. If contacting by text no more than 2 at once and just wait. Call and if she doesn't pick up then just give a text (which hopefully provokes getting when you can call), maybe try again a little later that day. Then progressively call with longer periods of time in between (whole day?). If no responses after 3 days then ask for some more numbers.
/r/seduction28/06/16 02:31 PM
1

Some other tricks I use are when it is about to end essentially keep telling yourself that the reason you are parting is because you are friends / enamored / lovers etc. (IE: Me and and this girl are in love with each other and THAT! is the reason we are parting) Also say you'll meet again even if you aren't thinking you might be able to and master telling her that you enjoyed meeting etc. Have a wonderful day etc, something endearing, a hug etc.
/r/seduction28/06/16 02:20 PM
0

Also just DO what you want to do. If you see the girl just sit right beside her. Make a top hat thinking pose and then blurt out an astute observation on the bus that is funny. You can also synthetically recreate second / third spontaneous opportunities.
/r/seduction28/06/16 01:54 PM
2

average attractive girls are the hardest to game. relating to age, physically etc. If anything is off, either too good or slightly unpreferred they become easier.
/r/seduction28/06/16 05:45 AM
2

also from the flip side, imagining her perspective through the entire interaction, what do you think she could have done differently when to make a SNL? What could have you done (and when) to provoke what she needed to do.
/r/seduction27/06/16 10:49 PM
2

Have you done SNL before? Do you have a visualization of how each of those interactions instead should have led to a SNL? What didn't you do that could have made that happen.
/r/seduction27/06/16 08:59 PM
1

lots of experience, serious attempts and evaluating what went wrong and making changes. It's like asking what was your game changer when learning a new language.
/r/seduction27/06/16 08:52 PM
1

Call her and chat her up. Minimize being a stranger asap.
/r/seduction27/06/16 07:11 PM
3

holy shit
/r/seduction27/06/16 06:05 PM
1

Just become ok with approaching 27 yr old women and then younger women will be even easier.
/r/seduction27/06/16 05:08 PM
1

This is smart thanks
/r/seduction27/06/16 01:34 PM
2

wut lol
/r/seduction26/06/16 05:07 PM
1

Thanks ya I think I have some ability to notice if she's a ho or not so definitely going to lean towards the ho's. So far just planning to try approaches to the best of my ability of girls of at least one of every ethnicity, age, attractive factor, and location / venue. Main goal is just to practice opening / conversing but I wouldn't considering it counting if I thought it could go farther and I didn't try to take it farther. Also planning to ask in some way "do you want to make out?" at the en…
/r/seduction26/06/16 05:04 PM
1

This is awesome thanks. I don't think he realizes why he is attracting her though. He could have replaced all those pushes instead with teases and not spent that time with her teetering being miserable. I think the idea of a kind of push after the kiss to create unsolved tension to prolong the night could be genius though. Looked like alcohol played a huge role. Imo negg'ing only has one purpose - to destroy a girls bloated ego that isn't doing either of you any good IF she has it.
/r/seduction26/06/16 02:25 AM
1

lol physically I am at least a 9
/r/seduction26/06/16 01:31 AM
1

have you seen her before? honestly any girl I met over text only I would not officially believe is a girl until we spoke in voice at minimal.
/r/seduction25/06/16 03:45 AM
1

you think it is fake?
/r/seduction25/06/16 02:59 AM
2

If this is the definition of an alpha window sounds like bs - https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2s1coz/what_is_an_alpha_widow_and_why_does_it_matter/ IMO main stream white american female culture actually is not promiscuous by nature. If they are, their courting / vetting processes on not based on natural sexual methods. This alpha / beta crap doesn't really exist in minorities and other cultures.
/r/seduction24/06/16 08:43 PM
7

soon my man soon. it has begun
/r/seduction24/06/16 08:38 PM
1

the likeliness you will get burned trying to converse over text is high enough that you should probably move on if they won't talk over the phone.
/r/seduction24/06/16 08:31 PM
1

gta?
/r/seduction24/06/16 07:27 PM
1

I was told by the best player I knew that once you get good enough girls literally recommend you to each other and you get passed around. He did nothing but play starcraft, smoke weed and smile too much. You'd have thought he was just a smiling dork who went out.
/r/seduction24/06/16 07:22 PM
1

Supposedly in practice there are more women than guys and is designed for rotation.
/r/seduction24/06/16 07:16 PM
1

sharing the same pose is definitely empathy, you need to be able to pick up on that. You should have chatted more then but awesome that you chatted afterwards and to her car. You needed to make this an insta-date with phone number fall back.
/r/seduction24/06/16 06:09 PM
1

#2 should needs to repent. Sounds like you needed to keep up regularly with her after the date.
/r/seduction24/06/16 05:31 PM
1

If you only go after beautiful women then you'll never find out that all women are the same. Then you'll eventually always see the unbeautiful in beautiful women and keep rejecting them. Women aren't dumb, they know if you'd treat / think of them poorly if they fell from grace. Just like going to the gym doesn't change who you are, it doesn't change who they are either. A lot of them are losers in hot bodies who don't know what the f they are doing but trying to aggress and get what they want to…
/r/seduction24/06/16 02:38 PM
1

Some quick background, I'm a huge pussy, bitch, wimp when it comes to seduction. What I read in models stop using I'm not ready as an excuse etc. Everything is about making vulnerable moves with confidence. Actually not knowing what you are doing is an AWESOME place to come from. All the best successes come from this point. Girls know it, they don't thrive on anything more.
/r/seduction23/06/16 07:05 PM
1

It feels exponential probably because we have a bad sense of memory. It is like learning a language, you keep learning a few words a day then eventually you can start putting together sentences. Then you can start talking. Then eventually you are having conversations.
/r/seduction23/06/16 06:49 PM
1

Ya but not all girls need to be seduced to make them your girlfriend. Some just need you to commit and just keep asking them out. On the opposite spectrum nobody is taking any girl, even a pro, to good sex within 24 hours without seduction skills. Some medium-long term only girls are actually turned off by seduction skills.
/r/seduction23/06/16 01:57 PM
1

30
/r/seduction22/06/16 09:10 PM
2

Yes
/r/seduction22/06/16 08:02 PM
3

lol put my photo on there that I have on facebook. 2% attractive
/r/seduction22/06/16 07:19 PM
2

seducing and getting a girlfriend are different things.
/r/seduction22/06/16 07:07 PM
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This is mostly about career successful women as a medium / long term girlfriend. It's not really about seduction. The millionaire 30 yr nerd is not going to seduce any girl if he didn't go through the steps to learn seduction.
/r/seduction22/06/16 07:02 PM
1

not without paying for no but I'm working on bridging the gap
/r/seduction21/06/16 12:12 PM
1

adult friend finder is a waste of time I only got one girl to respond and all she did was tell me honestly that any actual girl on there literally has a choice of 10 to 1 dudes.
/r/seduction21/06/16 12:10 PM
1

is it a walking city where you have to cram in with people on the subway etc often though?
/r/seduction21/06/16 12:05 PM
1

it's virtually the same thing but cheaper
/r/seduction21/06/16 12:04 PM
12

Being social is a skill. You should move to an urban city like philly etc. The sheer amount of people every where make it easy to practice.
/r/seduction21/06/16 02:25 AM
4

In my experience women rarely give thought through honest answers on the net. They are more likely to give knee jerk responses based on how you asked the question. Your best chance is to ask questions where what you really want to know is a side product of the question your asking. IE: If you want to know if girls like to be approached then ask a question that already assumes they like to be approached. If they answer the question then it is implied that they like being approached, if they flood…
/r/seduction21/06/16 02:19 AM
1

Even if money was involved a girl wouldn't do it with you with that few words involved. A pro, bare minimal, would need 3-8 warm up back and forth sentences. If that gives you a sense of what is technically even possible.
/r/seduction20/06/16 09:10 PM
2

We kissed a few times over that period but I didn't let myself get into making out with her. I don't really enjoy that part unless I'm really interested in the person. However, she kept trying and I kept backing off, smiling at her, and continuing conversation like nothing happened. You need to have more compassion. This is cruel and very likely the reason she didn't spark interest in her with you was your fault not hers. Otherwise it sounds like you know exactly what to do etc but there is some…
/r/seduction20/06/16 08:42 PM
1

grab it
/r/seduction20/06/16 07:38 PM
24

You're only getting the opinions of the type of women who go on the internet and answer these type of questions.
/r/seduction20/06/16 06:59 PM
2

You might not have built the moment up correctly. You need to come on to the scene as the provider of the BFE (guy's version of GFE / girlfriend effect). Don't let her convince you otherwise and don't bring anything else. You are NOT the provider of logic, sound thinking, and expected structure etc. Also sounds like you never made the jump before. Just establish trust and the right connection then just make some grabs for it. Grab a hand, pull yourself in, whatever etc be silly she's yours.
/r/seduction20/06/16 04:55 PM
0

just focus on teasing, weird tangents and theoretical comparisons etc. bs possibilities Ask her if she likes the bar. Then say ya this bar is like a library mated with a dank cellar. and by mated I mean the rent-a-center aint taking the furniture back anymore
/r/seduction17/06/16 08:33 PM
2

Jump on it fast while the area still seems new. Girls can always sense if you are "not from there". I got hit on at the gym after just a few days of moving to philly. after that never again. Makes me think that prejudice is the biggest killer of hooking up. When both parties don't know how to prejudge then hooking up happens fast... Approach all women as if you were new to the town.
/r/seduction17/06/16 08:27 PM
1

Why do you want an abundance mindset with a soul mate? If you think you "choose" who you're going to spend the rest of your life with then seduction has already done it's damage.
/r/seduction17/06/16 05:16 PM
2

ask her to take you out on a date
/r/seduction17/06/16 03:39 PM
1

there is a lot to learn from the gimmes if you have no experience.
/r/seduction17/06/16 03:03 PM
1

seduction really isn't about long term relationships.
/r/seduction17/06/16 02:39 PM
1

Gotta try different venues / styles / types of girls and keep trust in yourself and them even if the last 10 "rejected" you. There are good women out there, just don't reject them. Ask them out and keep asking them out.
/r/seduction17/06/16 02:15 PM
1

Your primary choices are either swinging or paying for it. As far as I can tell right now almost all girls want some kind of running friendship that can depend on your availability AT LEAST a tiny bit.
/r/seduction17/06/16 02:05 PM
1

You still have to go through all the same self improvements if you want college to work for you.
/r/seduction17/06/16 01:44 PM
1

sounds like you're just at square zero. no worries, we're all at square zero really. just begin approaching, reading, figuring out what went wrong and what to do differently next time...
/r/seduction16/06/16 08:43 PM
2

imo mainly just return the same sincerity + at these moments.
/r/seduction16/06/16 04:56 PM
2

you could over elaborate their complement. say oh yes I have the sexiest hair, I use only the best product. It's a cross between justin beiber and brad pitt but with my own sexier twist. My barber can barely contain herself when she cuts it. but you can touch it if you want.
/r/seduction16/06/16 04:30 PM
0

Will be honest - pay for it every once in awhile if you have to to break the rejection cycle. But do your absolute best to make it as if you weren't paying for it.
/r/seduction16/06/16 04:07 PM
1

thanks this is smart
/r/seduction16/06/16 02:56 PM
1

obviously we at least don't want anything to feel canned or scripted but bf / gf stuff is what it is all about. You can't really just pick and choose which is ok. And if you do silently then you're going to have trouble. The best way (and maybe only real way) for it to not be formally bf / gf is to have more than one person you are dating at the time.
/r/seduction15/06/16 07:22 PM
2

it's an awesome first contact because it's "explainable". Another two I use is either have her look something up on the phone and press against her to see over to it or / and take the phone from her to see it but completely hold her hand to make the transaction.
/r/seduction15/06/16 07:03 PM
1

you should not only trust yourself but the women you are approaching etc too.
/r/seduction15/06/16 03:58 PM
1

What is the shortest you've known a guy before anything sexual happening (kiss etc) and what are some of the stories?
/r/seduction15/06/16 12:54 PM
1

I agree the theme seems to be "be awesome". That's not possible for everyone.
/r/seduction15/06/16 12:52 PM
1

men actually don't compartmentalize. A 10 physically will get 100% ignored if she comes off bad / wrong, has an ugly personality etc.
/r/seduction15/06/16 12:46 PM
1

tons of swag etc I don't think is possible for every guy.
/r/seduction15/06/16 12:41 PM
1

where do you go to pick up guys
/r/seduction14/06/16 11:05 PM
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4) Don't change who you ARE 9) Learn one thing from every failure 10) Stop reading PUA shit.
/r/seduction14/06/16 10:59 PM
12

if you are walking down the street with her bump in to her half regularly. works 100 times better than you'd think
/r/seduction14/06/16 09:52 PM
1

you need to find a few 9 or 10 s that you can declare you are going to use strictly for practice to the point of complete failure or success.
/r/seduction14/06/16 08:46 PM
1

no in both guys and girls. I guess emphasized for girls.
/r/seduction14/06/16 06:45 PM
1

I don't really not like anyone and if I did I would not keep them around. anything that is negative has to be extremely dampened if it can't be avoided / removed.
/r/seduction13/06/16 07:42 PM
1

only time you're going to come off creepy is the first few times you are practicing.
/r/seduction13/06/16 07:39 PM
6

Went to a onetaste meetup recently and they mentioned the idea of avoidance addiction.
/r/seduction13/06/16 07:22 PM
3

use her to improve your ego / confidence, expand your social network and answer questions about how to get other girls. If she is damaging your ego, not providing her network or not available / willing etc to answer questions then she is bringing you down and wasting not only your time but the girl's time you should be with instead.
/r/seduction13/06/16 04:08 PM
2

never use absolutes in your mind. Always replace them with sometimes etc.
/r/seduction10/06/16 08:31 PM
1

I am thinking to start this soon. Just random approaches for the sole purpose of improving only conversation.
/r/seduction10/06/16 03:25 PM
1

imo eating healthy and working out are the basics. basically it is just the equivalent of taking a shower every day. If you are working out the same muscle groups more than 2 times a week then you are wasting your time because girls don't really care. You shouldn't even need to work the same muscle group even more than one time per week.
/r/seduction10/06/16 02:10 PM
2

instead of saying programming / programmer say engineer or in tech. In america I have yet to find a girl who doesn't find you being a programmer a negative. The best you can hope for is neutral.
/r/seduction29/05/16 06:42 AM
1

was going to post 1. stop hating, 2. manipulation isn't what you think it is
/r/seduction12/04/16 07:27 PM
1

Sorry my roommates got in the way of our fun, but you can drop by during the weekend when they aren't there and we can share a bottle of wine or something.. Never say sorry for not doing something, just do it. Don't text either. Also landing a score is never going to be on time etc. If the situation calls for yelling while your roommate is trying to sleep, you're going to have to yell. Or I just invite her for drinks at a bar nearby and I invite her home later Exactly
/r/seduction08/04/16 08:37 PM
1

What's actually most important is a combo being on the same page as the girl and elevating the situation. If you are already at an elevated state to bring her to, you don't mediate to kill it. Mediating kind of steam rolls whatever state you are currently in by putting x amount of time between you and it. One thing I am noticing is absolute confidence is not a good thing, you end will end up steam rolling the girl. Some anxiety is good, you don't build a relationship with a girl without some bol…
/r/seduction08/04/16 02:52 PM
1

Ya that's what I was thinking, these exercises are great for pushing boundaries and killing anxiety etc but ultimately they train you do extreme single purpose things. I'm starting to notice the same in my hindi learning, I should probably be practicing speaking hindi with people more than trying to learn it all first. Actually hitting on the instructor was going pretty well and was probably making things better. My inability to get some tango stuff right was what was probably burning things out…
/r/seduction07/04/16 07:22 PM
7

mediate if you are not in the right mood before going. If you are in the right mood before going then mediating will kill it.
/r/seduction07/04/16 05:32 PM
1

The SNS / PSNS I / My trick is extremely smart.
/r/seduction07/04/16 04:51 PM
2

lol I actually ran out of things to say to a girl yesterday and decided to try to speak like christopher walken. I ended up sounding italian lol. Seems I desperately need some things to ask that simply stir stuff up. Also need to work on not letting panic shortlist thinking about what I could say next etc.
/r/seduction06/04/16 02:02 PM
1

I have ulcerative colitis but I used to be able to control it pretty good... Even hit or miss just asking for a kiss would be pretty awesome, I asked only three times and particularly the last response was nasty. The first was prepped with about 15 minutes of casual / flirt talk first. At the moment in martial arts terms I consider myself to be "in training" so I'm just building different scenarios to execute. So I'm trying to figure out what is technically possible. I'll end up going back to hi…
/r/seduction05/04/16 05:06 PM
1

running around beating people up is not what happens in the adult world.
/r/seduction05/04/16 04:45 PM
3

so far to my understanding women / girls are not really "capable" of out right saying they want you etc. Everything has to be restructured so that essentially their next chess piece move does not make it obvious that they want you. If you got a girl that is making obvious outright in the open moves then you should not take that for granted.
/r/seduction05/04/16 03:55 PM
2

I feel like this is an extremely important point most people miss. When the "relationship" is clearly foundering this is the point you can legitimately try high risk things for the sake of seeing what would really happen. Actually what you can end up learning can make the whole failed relationship attempt worth it.
/r/seduction05/04/16 02:48 PM
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What's fucked up? That one wouldn't think anything of it and keep it to themselves? It's not leprosy, if anyone is worried about getting it they should literally be staying at home. Like he said, most people don't even know they have it to let someone else know in the first place. Whoever you are, once your game gets going, you're eventually going to get something.
/r/seduction04/04/16 08:45 PM
1

honestly the guy should just come to understand he has no idea why she didn't text back, it could really be anything. I've not followed up with girls for days simply because I over slept the morning I was first wanting to get back to her. especially when it is easy come easy go... bars etc are basically the women's version of a brothel.
/r/seduction04/04/16 08:08 PM
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just ask all the boring questions in a Christopher Walken way. - "So. ... like, .. your day? how was it."
/r/seduction04/04/16 07:56 PM
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Honestly it's par for playing the game, you could / should actually think of it as a badge of honor. Until it is illegal, unless you are planning to be long term with this girl, you shouldn't even tell her imo. Just be very responsible about making she her chances of getting are minimized. This is the country we live in, you wouldn't have got it if it was illegal and you bowing out of the game even in the slightest mentally is not how this problem should go about being solved.
/r/seduction04/04/16 07:51 PM
1

Because of family, work and taking a night class it's not really possible for me to be dependably available. I'm only just this week becoming healthy enough to go back out. I left off a month ago just asking girls for a kiss at a busy tourist market in the city lol. At the moment I would just try different stuff at different locations just to get a sense of how girls respond at all at them. I probably won't seriously start though until another week or two after I started going to the gym, yoga a…
/r/seduction04/04/16 07:16 PM
2

Although girls don't tend to build the skill of approaching, they do build a skill of being approached / approachable and then the skill of "following" as it would be called it tango etc terms. It's actually not impossible for guys also to learn this skill and start being approached by women and it ultimately going somewhere.
/r/seduction01/04/16 06:29 PM
1

I think the biggest failure of this "guys do the approaching" system is that in order for getting together to work BOTH parties need skills. However once you do build up the skill to approach you're in a pretty awesome position, you actually get to choose.
/r/seduction01/04/16 03:38 PM
6

most guys would never approach if they never had to. they'd just settle for who ever approached them.
/r/seduction01/04/16 03:30 PM
1

you could maybe use a language exchange site to find a girl who would help you practice / learn sexy english talk. www.italki.com
/r/seduction30/03/16 03:01 PM
0

Philly
/r/seduction30/03/16 02:44 PM
1

developed with martial arts, dance classes, acting crazy on random webcam chats, and doing youtube type pranks in public on the streets.
/r/seduction30/03/16 12:18 PM
1

I don't use conversational banter that I know of. Just wit, tone of voice and body language. Conversationally whatever struck me on the way there, what I just stubbed my toe on, philosophical stuff I've been thinking about for years... If she would shame me for not having banter ready I would essentially laugh at her and if she was still serious I wouldn't let anyone shake my confidence. Maybe I could just make some up or have her tell me some.
/r/seduction29/03/16 08:29 PM
1

never question why a woman likes you. that is for them to decide not you.
/r/seduction29/03/16 08:23 PM
2

If you want a long term relationship go for the quieter ones in irl and be honest, sincere and persistant.
/r/seduction29/03/16 05:12 PM
1

Neither weed, alcohol, or any mind altering drug will be good for you with constant use. I think weed used correctly at the right times for the right reasons at max a couple times a month is good. For me it seems to work as a good check to see where I am at the moment and I almost always figure one or two things out. Was actually planning to try at least a few "approaches" while high. virtually everyone I know who used to smoke a lot eventually ended up quitting for the same reasons.
/r/seduction29/03/16 01:30 PM
1

Normally the biggest attractors are happiness, health (being fit etc), and intelligence (normally comes with being healthy). For me so long as she is fit / healthy I'm fascinated in the fun of it. I haven't really been able to pinpoint exactly what I find attractive but I'm pretty sure I've pinpointed that her not liking me guarantees killing my attraction for her. Wit and reciprocation.
/r/seduction28/03/16 09:09 PM
7

Damn this post is good Lower her standards. Be perfectly fine with yourself
/r/seduction28/03/16 07:36 PM
1

when I was 17 or 18 I was just walking down the hall to leave school and just snapped and walked up to her and just asked if she wanted to go to the dance with me.
/r/seduction28/03/16 07:24 PM
0

Practice a bunch of crazy ideas with a bunch of other cashier girls first
/r/seduction28/03/16 07:15 PM
1

My availability to follow up with a girl is really bad. I'm probably best suited for mid game, 2-3 dates but I'm kind of forced to make single encounters work if they are possible. I could also figure out how to logistic follow up setups if that is the only realistic option.
/r/seduction28/03/16 04:59 PM
2

Where was this?
/r/seduction28/03/16 03:25 PM
2

I think one reason is because girls prefer guys that externally match how they feel internally.
/r/seduction10/03/16 03:29 PM
2

Quite often some of the best places are where guys would least expect. Almost all places guys expect they should go looking turns into a 3 to 1 guy to girl ratio.
/r/seduction09/03/16 04:58 PM
1

When focusing on exercises to improve your social skills or game you need to make sure everything you do only makes you feel uncomfortable or embarrassed (at least if in a bad way). Otherwise you'll inevitably just end up becoming an asshole.
/r/seduction09/03/16 03:24 PM
1

Move to any of the US's major urban style cities like Philly or NYC. It's like college for adults.
/r/seduction07/03/16 02:45 PM
1

It follows is awesome however it is kind of about getting stds. The veil and the visit are good recent ones. Not sure what scary movie I would recommend for a date though, Oculus?
/r/seduction03/03/16 08:26 PM
1

yup absolutely like your current self. just always make a real honest attempt. tone down whatever you need to do to get just the first three attempts / approaches of any exercise done though. Then just come back and evaluate. stuff will happen quicker than you think and girls will be unbelievably more friendly than you would have imagined. keep faith and trust in women.
/r/seduction02/03/16 04:54 PM
1

make a list of all the ways you can interact with women and then just go out and do them. Commit to at least 10 but not more than 20 of any exercise. You are essentially trying to learn women in the context of getting what you want from them. So always be trying to get what you want from them and just come back, evaluate what / why was successful and what wasn't, commit to improvements you came up with and go back out and try again. If you want to be a pick up artist it's going to take bare mini…
/r/seduction02/03/16 04:31 PM
1

Don't try to find a girlfriend in college, they are all basically pro wannabe's where the currency they accept is a little bit of entertainment. Practice with the real pro's to get the mindset, cam / phone and in person. Take a dance, improv or martial arts class. Jump in to the scene day one. Be a "yes" person.
/r/seduction02/03/16 04:04 PM
1

I got the same issue. Been sick for over a year, only felt good for literally about 5 or 6 collective weeks the entire time. Did manage to get out those weeks though... Thinking about starting a more serious treatment.
/r/seduction02/03/16 03:21 PM
1

the conclusion that I came up with is that it's draining because us introverts are not actually our base selves when we are socializing. We are analyzing and maintaining etc, basically putting together an elaborate piece of art. We're kind of painting how we see ourselves instead of just being the painter.
/r/seduction01/03/16 07:20 PM
1

move to downtown philly or nyc etc and then just walk around. they're everywhere.
/r/seduction01/03/16 05:18 PM
1

I'm pretty sure I'm actually an introvert extrovert hybrid and the more I've routed out and improved my social skills the less draining it was and the more I began socializing by default instead of not.
/r/seduction01/03/16 04:28 PM
1

I disagree this isn't the only cause of this. When she starts showing interest in you the shared narrative is actually now changing from does like she like me to do I like her. She is becoming the pursuer, so the underlying direction of the interaction is her now trying to get validation from you. Essentially she is bombarding you with interactions that are in a sense a bunch of yes no questions "hey I just said this in an entertaining way, do you like me?". So if you are interacting with her wi…
/r/seduction01/03/16 03:05 PM
2

imo facebook in general is just a bad idea lol. glorified text messenger / photo album life tracker system to let people pretend they're living a celebrity's life.
/r/seduction29/02/16 07:27 PM
1

lol i wish
/r/seduction29/02/16 05:43 PM
2

dude get yourself a "teach yourself spanish" book, download rosetta stone for free and get a tutor and just learn spanish (I got 20 lessons with a hindi teacher over skype for $300 and I am probably over paying). You are never in a better position to learn a language super fast than while you are living in the country. Within three weeks you'll be able to use potential girls as your learning partner.
/r/seduction29/02/16 04:31 PM
2

Honestly I'm not convinced about conservative girls, it's almost a sexual orientation. You might find some in a conservative scene who aren't conservative or some conservative girls who are sex curious though.
/r/seduction29/02/16 03:28 PM
2

my experience with germany too. For how small germany is the way people are small town minded in the small towns is shocking.
/r/seduction29/02/16 03:17 PM
1

I would mention to your friend now that in the future if a certain scenario happens you'd have to leave without him.
/r/seduction29/02/16 01:49 PM
2

Normally I always opt for making an ass out myself with good intent than doing nothing. As far as I can tell the intent goes way farther than how it came off. So far in each hindsight it always seems for me and the girl that it was preferred I just went for it if even the first few times were strikingly not how she was expecting.
/r/seduction29/02/16 01:45 PM
3

I can't count the amount of times things were taking to the boiling point or past it then just watched it unbelievably and painfully just slowly fall straight to the floor. Normally it's for logistical reasons though... They have to take some of the blame though. She built her rapport with you so it's her lose also that she just ended up with some other guy she actually had nothing real going with. One thing I would make sure of though is if you know a path is going down a road of regret then sw…
/r/seduction28/02/16 05:06 PM
1

The Boy Friend Effect. Essentially the guy's version of the GFE. Basically you're going to be like a boyfriend to her right off the bat.
/r/seduction26/02/16 08:51 PM
1

That's because men who are taken display lower levels of neediness and single men have more unmet needs, which results in doing and saying things to get a positive reaction from them. I think it's because guys who already have a girlfriend already have "BFE momentum" and girls see you as quick catch for getting it themselves.
/r/seduction26/02/16 08:34 PM
1

Your friend has more game than it seems. We had a friend like this in college and I used to think the same thing "wtf I was such a better match for her, she was wanting him the whole time? that's a waste of her time..." Now that I have a better understanding / experience / etc I know how he could be the chosen one so subtly.
/r/seduction26/02/16 07:30 PM
1

In my experience the first 3 of any new exercise will be essentially mostly failure and probably completely annihilating. After that 4-10 are going to see turbulent success and after 10 you'll at least be on two feet. It's guaranteed if you are taking every attempt seriously, reviewing what went wrong / right and committing to improvements that you discovered you should have done.
/r/seduction25/02/16 08:38 PM
1

Congrats Imo don't say that she is cute and then shake her hand, sounds like a business transaction and the value of the goods had just been confirmed. Do one or the other. Her learning english could have been a good opportunity to tease her and play around with her english. You asked about the boyfriend way too early, you should at least make sure interest is established before asking something like that. That and the intro got the yes lie / irrelevant answer. It was kind of rude to then just l…
/r/seduction25/02/16 07:56 PM
1

Anyone know of a good scientific style psychology book on conversation?
/r/seduction25/02/16 05:37 PM
1

I know I should've said go out on a date, but I figured, "Hey it gets the message across." You didn't need to mention date, it got the message across and that's good. I probably flirted with her more strongly, and made jokes, and probably should've smiled more. A lot of should'ves. Not really, some interactions don't allow for doing everything all at once. I texted back "Sure. Wednesday morning is cool at 11." Mistake number 2 I feel like I made myself too available to Amy. This was an asshole r…
/r/seduction25/02/16 05:08 PM
1

Do you guys go out and approach if you feel shit emotionally? yes, I would never "go out" without doing some techniques to undo my current state. Like singing in public or heavily hit on some cashiers etc to get my mood up etc. So ultimately I always start off in a shitty state.
/r/seduction25/02/16 04:33 PM
2

I really don't think it's supposed to be alcohol seddit vs non alcohol seddit. Probably more like I live with my parents vs I don't seddit. Also a lot of those high schoolers have more guts and game than a lot of adults.
/r/seduction24/02/16 07:34 PM
1

I wouldn't actually ever recommend movies, it instills / establishes that you both don't talk in each other's presence. Even if you're having an awesome conversation just before going in it's going to be a slight uphill battle coming out of being silent with each other. So you better have some convo lined up for right after leaving the movie and a few things about the movie to talk about. Or even though you both know you shouldn't you might / will associate wrong things to the silence / difficul…
/r/seduction24/02/16 07:26 PM
1

gym everyday, focusing on my studies, cold showers, etc. Try throwing a more high level activity like a dance, martial art, or improv class in the mix. The gym is more like taking a shower, it's just a bare essential for daily function imo. Even any group type class is better for you than just the gym, take a yoga class... Also focusing on book work etc actually undoes social momentum. Just something to keep in mind if you spent all week just studying then you'll need to spend a few hours to und…
/r/seduction24/02/16 06:07 PM
0

then use texting to ask when is a good time to call. Busy or something? You shouldn't succumb yourself to literally anything they could possibly be doing. You're trying to make you be the thing they are busy or something with. Take the confidence that probably if not likely you are the something they'd rather be busy with.
/r/seduction23/02/16 04:50 PM
0

"Hello, how are you?" is trying to start a conversation over text. You shouldn't use texting to converse. You should have just called. How you left them off and how long you waited etc will dictate if they pick up. You have to show them that you're seriously going to do it if given the chance. By texting instead of calling you're showing that when giving the chance to call instead of text, you won't do it. So what about the chance to take them out instead of call or text? The chance to kiss or f…
/r/seduction23/02/16 04:43 PM
3

"hey can I talk to you for a minute?" "no, I am not interested sorry!" Was this literally the entire interaction? Does she even know what she wasn't interested in? She may have thought you were going to talk to her about our lord and savoir jesus christ. To my understanding parking lots are not women's favorite places to be approached. I think if you got real, warmed her up at the counter, didn't ask permission for anything and then asked her out you'd have a real chance. That interaction was ab…
/r/seduction23/02/16 04:19 PM
0

the girls who blocked you did it not because of what exactly you texted them but how you left the interaction when you got their number. Texting almost never builds momentum, it almost always kills it.
/r/seduction23/02/16 03:12 PM
1

quit using you being attracted to them, as a reason for them to be attracted to you. sounds like you are using material to attract them that they don't find attractive and then are trying to run with it. there are entire sections of conversation you should completely avoid ie anything in the realm which would give you feeling of asking "so how was your day today hunny?" to your wife of 10 years. Mainly stick to being a witty goof who teases alot and who puts themselves out there for consumption.
/r/seduction22/02/16 07:36 PM
1

"that's not my preferred way to exchange spit if that's what your asking."
/r/seduction22/02/16 06:00 PM
1

The first few attempts are mainly to build up momentum. Once the first few attempts are done the rest will be easy, this is guaranteed. The main goal is just to make sure they happen, care enough about if they will succeed or if your approach idea is dumb ONLY until the point you wouldn't approach anymore. So if you can't think of something good or you care too much to make the first three attempts then lower your give a shit or just go for particularly dumb approaches anyways. The main goal is …
/r/seduction19/02/16 10:01 PM
1

You would definitely know if he was a PUA. He would be direct and more less get to the point. You'd be feeling it and probably be wanting it instead. There wouldn't (shouldn't) be bad awkwardness and definitely not lingering. A PUA would have moved on simply from his own lingering by this point. I think you are confusing PUAs with players. PUAs work to be the guys women want, players just disdainfully manipulate women. I don't think he is either.
/r/seduction19/02/16 06:07 PM
0

Headphones in doesn't make it harder. It probably makes it easier. If a girl is on her phone or has headphones in I see this as more of a green light than without.
/r/seduction19/02/16 03:26 PM
7

I get rejected by most white girls and i'm white.
/r/seduction19/02/16 01:35 PM
1

This is my favorite art of war quote - “If you know the enemy and know yourself, your victory will not stand in doubt; if you know Heaven and know Earth, you may make your victory complete.”
/r/seduction18/02/16 05:41 PM
1

You can never get an honest (if you can get one at all) why something didn't work out. Otherwise my lack of time and health, having a mild case of aspergers? Also texting.
/r/seduction18/02/16 05:33 PM
3

I agree with recourting. One could want to fuck like a rabbit even with someone who was their complete enemy (hoping ya'll are just bored). Might want to improve your diet, cut out any sugars etc and start going to some work out level yoga classes then introduce pure lust (might want to mix in some fantasys like doing it in the changing room at some mall or getting tickets to a low attendance movie).
/r/seduction17/02/16 07:04 PM
0

I went for my older female professor once. She shit tested my age / maturity and I didn't pass but she liked me. She gave me an A+ and wanted me to work as her teaching assistant.
/r/seduction17/02/16 05:35 PM
1

do enough stupid shit on omegle until you can secretly think of all girls as someone who is a million miles away who could disappear in a click forever if you needed them to.
/r/seduction16/02/16 10:22 PM
1

honestly you should work on your voice more. Keeping the right tone at the right speed can make any girl melt and otherwise the right delivery can let you say anything. Obviously don't keep a monotone face... at least give a stink eye eyebrow or shit eaters grin. exaggerate and humor at least yourself
/r/seduction16/02/16 10:02 PM
2

it could be better but at least you aren't one of the guys who's first cheated on them etc and they're stuck thinking about her for the rest of their lives.
/r/seduction16/02/16 09:18 PM
3

true but the quiet types don't tend to cross paths with each other as often.
/r/seduction16/02/16 09:08 PM
4

"Ya well in some things, retarded in others"
/r/seduction16/02/16 07:36 PM
1

forgot a period.
/r/seduction16/02/16 04:35 PM
1

I dunno I disagree. How you're dressed etc matters. However who you are can over come being badly dressed etc.
/r/seduction16/02/16 04:07 PM
1

I agree finding what works is better than trying to make what doesn't work work instead. However you never know what works for you and what you'll learn from it..
/r/seduction16/02/16 03:52 PM
1

I agree I'm happy for the op however most people's cold approach experience is somewhat around the ballpark of their experience in general.
/r/seduction16/02/16 03:39 PM
2

No more "sorry." I took the word "sorry" out of my vocab. Went from saying things like, "Sorry to bother you but what time is it?" to "What time is it?" Taking sorry out of my vocab really boosted my confidence- made me feel like I wasn't bugging people anymore. I was saying it all of the time before I really thought about it. Never say sorry, just stop doing whatever it is. Also never do or extremely avoid the "I will" type scenarios, just do it instead. (I'm sorry is really just a "I will stop…
/r/seduction15/02/16 04:57 PM
3

Imagine if you hadn't interacted at all. You kicked ass here today op, now recoup how you could have done more / differently and try again.
/r/seduction15/02/16 04:35 PM
1

Gotta make your own style work for you op, maybe you'll be back here telling everyone a whole new approach / philosophy you invented. Sounds more like a language issue and she just didn't find it cute.
/r/seduction15/02/16 03:19 PM
1

Hip hop classes worked for me...
/r/seduction15/02/16 01:39 PM
1

Since I'd rather not start drinking at all, and would rather she not even drink, I'm wondering how much more difficult I am making this on myself. So I can start getting a better sense of why failures are happening and where changes need to happen.
/r/seduction13/02/16 04:29 PM
1

ya this is what I mean. I think different versions of this can last different lengths of time. I'm just saying pay attention and don't kill it or unmaintain it for any excuse like you'll be able to just get it again later. You got it now.
/r/seduction13/02/16 04:20 PM
6

ask another girl what state she is from cuz ya jus' dun givva fuk. Ask every girl on the way out of the building.
/r/seduction12/02/16 09:10 PM
1

He shouldn't be an ass to her just because he one-itis'ed her.
/r/seduction12/02/16 08:00 PM
1

For me drinking is something I only want to do maybe once or twice a month. However the rate in which I'd want to try and do pick up I'd be an alcoholic. But it sounds like most of the game is geared towards bars and clubs. That or some part a long the way there is a "going out for drinks".
/r/seduction12/02/16 05:20 PM
1

A good meal right before hand of your favorite meal works.
/r/seduction12/02/16 04:28 PM
1

learning women takes a long time. it's a lot like learning a language or martial art etc. it takes a lot of genuine attempts / experience and since everyone is unique everyone has to learn their own style. That is of course if you want to be able to get "any" woman. You will always be able to get women you easily relate to however it's possible you don't relate to many.
/r/seduction12/02/16 04:24 PM
1

Ok but what do we do while the oven preheats? Can we program the oven to just give us a text when it's ready?
/r/seduction12/02/16 02:58 PM
1

In the book "Irrationally Predictable" it says that it is a known psychological trick that bringing someone less attractive with you as a wingman increases your chances of getting picked vs going alone. The reason is that the mind is more likely to make a choice at all when it has something to compare with, and therefor choose the "better" ( / largest utility with least resistance (as put in AI terms)) choice.
/r/seduction12/02/16 01:40 PM
1

EXACTLY! OP, you are never going to see these people again. WHO CARES go for it w/e the f you want!
/r/seduction11/02/16 07:59 PM
1

I think the most mature thing to do is approach her first at the gym. However this seems a lot like going for a girl at work, the dynamics are going to be pretty wild so I would make sure not to let it get to you if it screws up. I would keep in mind though that matching up on tinder means almost literally nothing, I'd use it as a joke to open up for a date proposal etc.
/r/seduction11/02/16 07:36 PM
1

I'd be interested if you are interested. My learning approach is kind of unique though, it's based off of Artificial Intelligence.
/r/seduction11/02/16 03:16 PM
2

Don't keep girls (or anyone really) in your life who treat you poorly or otherwise make you feel like shit. It lowers your confidence and self esteem which is unfair to the people / girls who do like you (which there guaranteed is). It's actually selfish to keep them around.
/r/seduction11/02/16 12:52 AM
1

https://www.headspace.com/ learn how to control emotions etc from completely taking over (The old version can be downloaded for free on torrent)
/r/seduction10/02/16 09:57 PM
1

sub is too jelly to respond Second, Just because a girl turns down your offer to go to your place doesn't mean its game over. She might need some more convincing or you might just have to make it easier for her to say yes. Sometimes they just want it to happen with out them having to say anything at all. In general, the lower the pressure the better. Without having first asked though you might not have set the stage for it to happen naturally afterwards. By asking, getting a no, and then her con…
/r/seduction10/02/16 04:08 PM
4

worry less about the key moment and more about all the game you're going to put in to her for the entire party.
/r/seduction10/02/16 01:36 PM
2

My impression was the fundamental approach was the same however you can expect different limits. You might need straight up way more game with different types of girls though ie: older women.
/r/seduction10/02/16 12:57 AM
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To be fair "they" are really just manipulating themselves, you can't manipulate someone else unless you are lying to them. By giving you ladies what you want is manipulating you? That's a messed up way of thinking.
/r/seduction10/02/16 12:52 AM
1

Do you plan to actually be with her on valentines day? You could just get her a big bouquet of roses, a box of the very best chocolates you know of in town with some of them being chocolate covered strawberries. Also you could take her out somewhere really nice before valentines day?
/r/seduction09/02/16 11:38 PM
16

There's gotta be better kino than grabbing our balls and busting them. We should go out to the field together, exchange guru tricks and wing each other.
/r/seduction09/02/16 10:09 PM
33

Can you tell us where the lady's den is where they strategize on how to get guys so we can crash it?
/r/seduction09/02/16 09:59 PM
83

Are you calculating how you're going to lure us in for the lay?
/r/seduction09/02/16 09:47 PM
1

She's your girlfriend now, don't limit yourself.
/r/seduction09/02/16 09:45 PM
1

just take her out on a date lol. you never had the straight to sex deal she made it seem like you did. be a friend, friend's who f
/r/seduction09/02/16 06:48 PM
4

all negativity should be suppressed actually. you should even avoid negative words etc, even in your own mind. the idea is a psychological one. they don't know you so all impressions are amplified. imo you should let them know if they just straight up did something wrong, just choose the best way to do it. I've actually turned around more than one disaster by essentially saying "I'm sorry for whatever I did, I'm not sure what it is, but you just ignoring / cold shouldering me at ... was cold / h…
/r/seduction09/02/16 06:02 PM
1

omeglepervy.com forces the guys to pay a one time if they want to be able to talk / text back. Honestly I'd say just charge the guys. You should be able to get a cheap VPS that'll handle a lot on bandwidth for cheap... Make sure you advertise the hell out of this though, that's the only way it'll get off the ground. You can change the pay model later. I'd say no to an ads approach but an eventual limited feature trial / up sell model would probably be best. Maybe girls can get all the base featu…
/r/seduction09/02/16 05:38 PM
2

Imo you should also allow some sort of rating, rejection rate statistics, hit statistics, response statistics, and usage statistics on profiles too so guys know if they should bother with a girl or have a sense of why it just fell off the face of the earth. This would encourage girls to actually be active, nice and respond etc. The rating system could be like a list of adjectives "was nice" "was mean" "quiet" "friendly" etc and then can do down the list after a call etc. A 1-5 would probably be …
/r/seduction09/02/16 05:26 PM
1

make a version of the site where you can't have a long text profile. The whole idea is to force a more natural kind of first impression / meeting each other. Kind of like a tinder that easily promotes phone / cam as the first contact / impression.
/r/seduction09/02/16 05:19 PM
1

Just don't let it kill the relationship early.
/r/seduction09/02/16 05:14 PM
1

can you make a cam site that only matches guys and girls? Or something like this but you can't text each other you can only initiate phone / cam calls with each other. That kind of site would make ungodly $. Also make a profile / no profile version of the site. Text profiles are horrible for match making.
/r/seduction09/02/16 03:30 PM
1

I ramble about something relevant to what's currently going on.
/r/seduction09/02/16 03:27 PM
1

This is the greatest fucking post I've ever read.
/r/seduction09/02/16 03:18 PM
2

have you called her after the bad text? wtf. this is why YOU DON'T TEXT! It destroys ANY early relationship. Fear texting with your life, THIS IS WHAT IT DOES! Texting is for logistics only, if you find yourself starting to converse then CALL.
/r/seduction09/02/16 02:58 PM
1

If you're an adult then this may be a reason for in the past, or why you're starting off dispositioned, but it's not the reason now. The reason now is because you're not going out and doing what you need to do to understand women. Once it's done it's done.
/r/seduction09/02/16 02:48 PM
1

I'm known as one of the most consistently serious persons people I know have met. I guess if a particular girl lightens you up and makes you happy then just make sure to keep it up with her and stay persistent. Happiness is the biggest attraction feature in any gender, so just do your best to keep that up (and it's appearance) at least with just the girl you are going for. Ultimately serious and unhappy seeming people are at a MAJOR disadvantage. Also always being serious has it's advantages. It…
/r/seduction09/02/16 01:56 PM
2

Ultimately even if it's not cold approaching that scares you some part of the whole process will. You need to become someone who fundamentally over comes over extreme fears whether or not they are related to getting a girl because the switch point happens subconsciously. If you have a history of over coming extreme fears then you are more likely to go for anything. My suggestions would be: MMA, hip hop classes, improv classes, karoke / singing in public, youtube style public pranks or other emba…
/r/seduction09/02/16 01:41 PM
1

How much game you put in to her before you ask will dictate what you need to do to get her there. If you put enough game in to her before hand she might take you there instead. Otherwise literally anything, some collection you got, some bit of homework etc it hardly matters b/c it's probably going to be in a wink wink fashion anyways. Then when she's there just say I was lieing I just wanted to get you in here etc. You could literally just whisper in her ear, hey you want to go to my room? It to…
/r/seduction08/02/16 11:59 PM
2

imo no matter how long you wait you still have to go through the same exact process to improve yourself. It doesn't become easier the longer you wait and there isn't any less reason to start now if you did wait.
/r/seduction08/02/16 11:47 PM
3

I'm not really an expert in "abundance". From the sounds of it is it actually an effect not a cause. However I think you need to find a good balance of targeting broadly vs only on a few. You can target broadly and treat each of them individually as if they are one of the few... However if you don't target broadly then you will never being able to make high risk chances and build real skill / understanding. By targeting only a few you really just become an expert in those individuals and not gir…
/r/seduction08/02/16 10:48 PM
2

either way the fact that either of them are there means he shouldn't worry about home wrecking anything.
/r/seduction08/02/16 10:28 PM
1

This is what I was going to say. Come to a full understanding of your short comings and then you can side with her when they come out. You can separate yourself from any physical type issues like crazy anxieties, shaking etc. Just keep in mind they are not actually you, they are just something that happens along side of you. IE: If I had hand shaking with a girl I could nearly put it out and say "look at this, witty comment here".
/r/seduction08/02/16 09:47 PM
1

I actually intentionally throw a dur in the mix just to get her to open up.
/r/seduction08/02/16 09:09 PM
1

I've noticed that when girls are high they are for some reason "super horny"
/r/seduction08/02/16 08:02 PM
1

I agree with this, I think this is a kind of issue I have. With my increased confidence I might have lost my ability to get with girls I would have been a better match with before hand. It makes me suspect that no matter what point of skill / confidence etc you are at it ultimately requires you to be out of your comfort zone for it to work.
/r/seduction08/02/16 07:50 PM
2

Try different venues, times of the day, races etc. When you fail actually come back and assess why that particular case failed and where / what you should have done differently and actually commit to doing it differently next time. It might be good to expand what activities you do other than just approach girls too. Get a wingman to help assess what went wrong and suggest different approaches etc. From the sounds of it currently you're trying to climb a 89 degree mountain face when you should be…
/r/seduction08/02/16 07:18 PM
1

I was going for a girl who had a remote boyfriend and we'd be going pretty good but once I slipped up (in the conversation etc) she would almost immediately mention her boyfriend. I already knew she was actually already with and went for a lot of guys, so the boyfriend topic was just kind of a knee jerk of hers to make a bail. Essentially her talking to me had boyfriend on her mind but when I slipped up "boyfriend" turned to "ex/current remote boyfriend" and since that was what was on her mind n…
/r/seduction08/02/16 07:01 PM
3

Just go all out shamelessly on the first girl right her in girlfriends face. If the friend likes it ask her to join in.
/r/seduction08/02/16 05:54 PM
0

Imo sadly something went in the wrong direction when she first mentioned her boyfriend in the beginning. After that it kept essentially getting doubled down that she was key momenting on an out with the boyfriend track when it should have got DTF. Imo it seems like this has become an established routine... I dunno give it one more round and just fucking get it on when she mentions the boyfriend? By this rate you should actually have a sense right before she would say, just make it happen then. D…
/r/seduction08/02/16 05:40 PM
0

Imo she's "out of your league" and you shouldn't be getting involved with girls at work anyways. I see it all kind of like martial arts. You can never guarantee that you can be good enough to "beat" any particular person, however you can guarantee with practice that you can be better than your previous self.
/r/seduction08/02/16 04:46 PM
0

I would definitely do it once just for the educational side of it however I'm not sure how you'd prep it so you'd get truthful answers. Also once you do it you're definitely killing the chance of her being a GF. However it's certainly not impossible to get the same information in a legitimate divergent way. Maybe say something like (when alluding to some way in which you are hitting on her) "Ya I'm really weird that way", then when she responds "not really!" you say "oh how so, elaborate yo self…
/r/seduction08/02/16 04:24 PM
1

But you are not connecting with a woman at all. This is a serious mistake. If you treat them like a girl / woman 90% of them will respond in kind and if you make it just as good for them a lot of them will do it for free or extremely cheap. It is VERY IMPORTANT to know if you think pro's "aren't real girls" then this is a sign of one of your core issues with women. Sex is WITH a women, it's not something that can be sold, what they are selling is their availability / time and that they will make…
/r/seduction08/02/16 03:10 PM
1

It can kind of be no different if you don't interact with them. Under your impression I'd say then just watch amateur porn where it's very clearly just regular people.
/r/seduction08/02/16 02:53 PM
1

How I normally do it is I escalate to only calling asap. If she doesn't pick up I normally give a text essentially saying what I was calling about. I give at least an hour or two before trying another call if she didn't respond in text. After this I'll try again the next day (probably with no following text). If she doesn't pick up then, I might try again after a day or two. If no response then I might craft a kind of welcoming but was nice to meet her text (one she could easily respond to and u…
/r/seduction08/02/16 01:41 PM
0

Never watch porn. Watch live webcam's instead. This trains you to be attracted to real women instead. Watching porn is like teaching yourself to think only the best of the best is how it should be which will fuck you up big time when you go out in to the real world. It's one of the most vile damages you can do to yourself. While instead watching cams, talking to the girls or even caming with the girls is literally the exact opposite. It will actually HELP you in the real world.
/r/seduction08/02/16 01:28 PM
2

You went from a 21 year old virgin to (about?) 10 girls in the same year. The story sounds whimsical and interesting kind of of detail from memory. It's not unbelievable though, it's got some weird details you'd think one couldn't make up (switching tred mills and yoga mats?). Also asians can be super easy and just roll with A LOT.
/r/seduction08/02/16 01:21 PM
1

never text always call. if you do text, you relinquish the right to make any conclusions from it.
/r/seduction08/02/16 03:53 AM
0

I dunno, asian girls are awesome though, very easy. I think it depends Japanese might be conservative but I think chinese and koreans are actually the female version of the american male.
/r/seduction08/02/16 02:29 AM
1

another thing to consider is it's OK to accidentally be an asshole. Girls would rather you be confident etc and accidentally be an asshole every once and awhile than be vanilla. The main thing really is to just throw your real self out there and stir it up, it's YOU they want and will dump you for if you're not delivering.
/r/seduction08/02/16 02:25 AM
1

I've noticed that nice guys tend to match better with either girls of different races or minorities. IE: white girl nerds, white fat girls, (white lesbian girls?), decent or sexy black / asian / spanish girls etc. Main stream white girls seem to see nice as a reason to panic for the eject button.
/r/seduction08/02/16 02:20 AM
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