Alcohol and Pick Up

twitch1982 · 2016-02-12T14:45:59+00:00

I had plenty of day game hookups while I was in college. No booze required, but things like riding busses, and milling about campus all day made it an opportune market. In my 30's I only go out a couple times a week, and I'm never out with the intention to run game, I'm out because it's my time to go out, if i talk to some women cool, if i fuck em, even better, but I'm out for me, so you can be damn sure I'm drinking.

TrueDevelopment · 2016-02-12T14:55:59+00:00

I think one question that you would need to ask yourself is can I have a good time without it?

If your answer is yes then you do not need it.

For me personally, I prefer without. This is because:

A) Doing night game sober helps with your day game.

B) You are completely yourself when sober, thoughts, emotions and etc.

C) Most importantly for me is that alcohol for me feels like a performance enhancing drug when gaming (For some people only). You feel less anxiety, braver and more confident and I am more interested in bettering myself without it rather than relying on it.

D) It's also pretty expensive in most places.

In regards to success rate I think it will increase yours, but I have not seen too much difference as to when I have drank than when I have "gotten in the zone" from being sober.

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singeblanc · 2016-02-12T17:04:45+00:00

Alcohol and pickup is like training wheels and bicycles - the only difference is that most people never make the effort to learn pickup with the training wheels off.

It's harder, and you'll probably fall off and scuff your knees a couple of times, so why bother?

ImJustAMan · 2016-02-12T15:11:10+00:00

I wish it was different, but my best game is after 3-4 drinks. The conversation just flows, my approach anxiety melts away and I know I'm the baddest motherfucker in the room.

I did an experiment a little awhile ago with going out and totally abstaining from alcohol. It took a little longer to get into state, and it was much harder to socialize in loud clubs, but overall not too much worse.

notafishtoday · 2016-02-12T14:19:41+00:00

I like to drink so I drink. My mate doesn't like to drink so he doesn't drink.

ksnyder1 · 2016-02-12T16:47:33+00:00

If you're fully confident than it shouldn't make a difference. I don't like to drink, maybe once a month at most. But there's no denying it helps loosen you up. If you're just looking to get laid, it may be more necessary. But if you're interested in a real relationship I would try to look elsewhere than bars/clubs.

The girl I'm seeing now I met at a concert. Right off the bat I casually mentioned that I don't drink. Boom. Done. No issues. If she continues to talk to me then she clearly doesn't care.

Another girl I went on a date with (old college acquaintances) was so obsessed with why I didn't drink and how I could have fun without it. Now watching her snapchats I realize drinking is such a big part of how she has fun that I'm so glad I'm not involved with her.

2016-02-12T15:38:02+00:00

Alcohol is absolutely unnecessary! I have a much clearer mind when I don't drink alcohol... Lot's of other factors that are important for attraction including your physique, overall looks, style, charisma, what you do for a living, general aura... You don't need alcohol to improve any of these...

You need to define what you're looking for in terms of success. What do you want? Bang a drunk chick or a serious girlfriend? The strategy required is completely different in both scenarios.

Good topic for discussion!

MrBr0 · 2016-02-12T17:13:30+00:00

As long as you're having fun, it's not a problem. Actually, even drunk people are not always happy/confident. Honestly, do you. Your ability to do that is much more important.

Not2original · 2016-02-12T18:44:43+00:00

I do better without alcohol I've come to realize. I'm more present, and aware of the chemistry and or lack there of.

I can be more genuine, and real about the situation. I may not get anything more than a name and conversation sometimes but I can walk away feeling good about the interaction.

I've noticed I tend to shoot my mouth off too much and I'm obnoxious in a short amount of time when I drink public. and I feel like I'm trying to restrain myself when I'm like that so I'm tense.

If I'm going to drink I'd rather stay home and be with friends or make it a more intimate/relaxing encounter with a partner.

Sarkorien · 2016-02-12T22:46:19+00:00

The general community consensus seems to be that you should be able to pickup sober. However, if you want more fun and you think that alcohol is the way to have more fun, go right ahead.

The problem is needing it.

suppermick · 2016-02-12T19:23:34+00:00

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Bigjohnthug · 2016-02-13T03:12:14+00:00

I go out sober most the time. Being sober definitely isn't necessary though. I'd say sober builds skills more but being drunk allows you to capitalize on those learnings without second guessing yourself as you adjust to new frames of reference and states of mind.

supermanshazam · 2016-02-13T13:11:11+00:00

Sounds like your looking to... 'Increase your chances to get the highest possible success rate!'. It's about enjoying yourself, buy a drink only if you like it. Experience all of the options, then you can follow your heart.

BudTrip · 2016-02-14T00:21:44+00:00

In my mind, i'm not doing game unless i'm sober. Sipmle as that, if i approach a girl even with a little buzz it doesn't count as game in my mind. So when i'm sober i'll do game and when i'm with friends i'll drink and have fun (talking to girls in included in that fun, however i don't call it game). Trust this method, it will take you in a trip of both discipline and letting go of alcohol anxiety. Simpy don't call it game when you drink, be wary of the lessons even when you talk drunk to girls tho.

BreadSpace · 2016-02-17T06:47:46+00:00

Go ahead and check out "Charisma on Command" on YouTube, he is a great social skills analyst and if you go to the bottom of the channel page, he has a play list of 3 videos that explains why he doesn't drink at social interactions. Very well done and a great channel over all!

Stefto · 2016-02-12T14:14:33+00:00

i do, i can't drink because i always have to drive to the nearest bar without allot of cowboys. I think not using alcohol allows you to be wittier when it comes down to it. i usually do best when i'm sober, and i get to offer the girl a ride home. (where i usually ask if i can use the bathroom to proceed further). so yeah, not drinking has its advantages as well as being cheaper.

silver_nuke13 · 2016-02-12T18:22:00+00:00

Major problem. If you need even to placebo yourself with a few sips before hitting on somebody, you got a drinking problem.

Title	Alcohol and Pick Up
Author	Overnight_Delivery
Upvotes	62
Comments	40
Date	February 12, 2016 1:37 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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