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[–]obviousyak 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It will definitely help your confidence by asking her. To be fair, I wouldn't say dinner that is a lot for the first time hanging out outside of school shit. Grab some coffee or ice cream or some shit. "Hey, x I enjoyed talking to you last class or whatever, we should grab some coffee and continue our conversation." You'll know by her reaction if shes digging it or not, then get the number.
[–]chronic_couchlock 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Thanks man, that's a good idea. That was actually my main worry, that I'd be coming on too strong going from acquaintances to asking her to dinner. I'll probabaly try asking her to grab coffee like you said and I'll see what happens.
In the future, if I have just met someone in class do you think that's still an appropriate thing to ask? I always feel like I want to further my relationships with people I meet in these classes (even if it's just a good friendship) but I always wonder if it sounds abrasive asking someone for coffee right off the bat. Sorry if it's a stupid question, I dont have the most natural feel for social situations if you couldn't tell.
[–]obviousyak 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
First, don't apologize over something like that. I know you're 18, but try and work on your inner game mate. It gets thrown around a lot but read Models by Mark Manson, build that inner confidence. Fuck if people think its abrasive, guess what bold people get laid. If she laughs at you, or tells you to fuck off, cool you know she's someone you won't be interested in. She did you the favor in that interaction.
To directly answer your question there is no harm in asking for a phone number from someone. If she doesn't want to give it to you she won't, no harm no foul.
[–]Jouissance_juice 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, adding to this, everybody your age is completely racked by the same insecurities that you experience. There are people who lack introspection, and that seems like confidence but it isn't. Real confidence is knowing yourself which comes at a price, especially when you are young and still figuring these things out. The price is this constant second guessing of your own desires and intentions and the way that your actions will be perceived.
There is nothing wrong with this. that "natural feel" for social interactions I think is mostly an illusion. It's like the talented guitarist or athlete, and everyone praises their inherent talent. Which is preposterous, because what you don't see is the hours spent practicing and training, often experiencing spirals of self doubt that regular folks ignore. No, embracing that doubt and recognizing it as drive is what will build these skills, and being social is a skill.
So be friendly, make jokes, tell stories. Don't put too much into it. Ask this girl out, sure! But don't worry about how much you are getting laid when you do it. Read up on kino and eye contact and flirting on here, ask her out, and learn how to weave those techniques into your regular social routine.
What you perceive as lack of confidence in yourself is actually what you need to become confident. Confidence is something that you do for yourself, it isn't something that you become or something that you are. It's a project of self improvement and self knowledge. Just relax, figure out what you want, be bold. We are here to help
[–]chronic_couchlock 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I just want to say thank you for writing this. It's exactly what I needed to hear. My constant struggle is that i have a great personality and i am accepting of who i am, but I'm in constant fear of being judged by others. As I've gone through high school my anxiety has gotten worse and I see it as my largest obstacle for success (in any part of life). You're 100% right. I need to start putting myself out there without a fear of being judged. I need to start exercising my "social muscles" and get practice at putting myself out there and get practice at getting rejected.
Obviously this is easy for me to preach online, but I am really hoping I'll be able to make a difference for myself in the future. Thanks.
[–]Jouissance_juice 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your welcome. I just want to reiterate that it is okay to be afraid. The reason why I want to clarify is it's easy to beat yourself up over it. There will be some days that you will be too anxious to approach or if you do you might freeze up or something, and I don't want you to read into that as like a personal flaw. Accept your fear, learn to love your fear, understand that it will protect you if you nurture it into a healthy mature fear.
If you find yourself in a social situation gripped with anxiety, excuse yourself, go get a liter of water, have a small healthy meal, call a friend or a family member, take a nap. Recharge your batteries and get back out there. And forgive yourself for it. I was so fucking anxious at your age. I still am. But that anxiety I've learned is an energy source. learn to harness it. I promise you, the things that you think are your biggest weaknesses are actually your strengths. Lean into it, and have fun!
[–]dailymanup 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
If you see her regularly, which it sounds like you do, a direct approach can lead to awkwardness if it doesn't work out. To avoid that, add her to your social circle. Here's an article on the College Approach which demonstrates.
[–]rmmjnh 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Like others have mentioned, don't treat this as a cold approach as it is not a cold approach. This is much more social circle. Just invite her out to a party, escalate, isolate and close :)
Just have fun with her, do not come on and say will you come for dinner or something crazy like that when you are more or less considered social circle comrades (same studies makes you fall into that category.)
[–]blockfuture 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't ask her to dinner off the bat. You can definitely get her to do dinner for a first date but you have to put the idea out there across multiple messages. You'd be better off talking to her after class and during the convo casually ask her to come with you to get a coffee then and there. Say something like "if you are not in a hurry right now, you should come with me to starbucks. There is a starbucks (or whatever is close) just around the corner (or wherever it is), I was just about to get a quick coffee" This makes it casual and doesn't hang pressure on her answering yes. If it goes well at coffee, you can ask her for her number and suggest hanging out again.
[–]Uraveragefanboi77 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just approach her after class and say: “Hey, do you want to do(insert something specific) at (specific time and date)”
The more specific you are, the less chance nothing will turn out happening.
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebanthas 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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I'm an 18 year old guy currently at college. I've developed a great social life here, meeting many great people, joining clubs, and joining a fraternity.
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My only gripe, however, is I have zero interaction with girls. It's not on purpose, I've just realized that all of my friends are guys and I've only hooked up with 1 girl this entire year.
You say, zero, but you did hook up with one girl. That's not zero, that's you erasing history in your own mind.
Sure you'd like more action NOW, but realize that there's a reason you only JUST realized the current situation; apparently you were fine with things the way they were all year.
It's only now that your needs have shifted a bit, that you're discontent and realizing the lack of female interaction. So now you'll figure this out.
No worries.
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This has just become apparent to me and so I am doing my best to change it. There is a cute girl in one of my classes. I've sat next to her and we've chatted here and there and been partner on some in class assignments, so we're not total strangers but obviously not very close. My question is would it be a good idea to approach her after class and blatantly ask her out to dinner?
Dinner is a bit formal as a first time one on one thing.
You talk with her and work on things for class with her, right? It's easy to pull a lunch out of that, even if you're both busy. If she wants to hang outside of class, that is.
It's also an easy matter to invite her to join you for a drink. If you have social circles beyond the frat, you could also invite her to join up when you're meeting those people. (If you mainly have the frat though, this would be a poor idea, because frats are notoriously not the best places to bring someone you're in the early phases of trying to date.)
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My initial thought was to talk to her after class and basically just outright say that I think she's pretty and i was wondering if she would like to grab dinner. This may seem like nothing to many of the guys on r/seduction who do cold approaches all the time, but this would be the most bold approach I have tried.
This would be bold, but it would also be pretty much tone deaf and shooting yourself in the foot because you'd be basically giving up on some basic foundational things. Here are the issues with it:
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My question is, is this a good way to approach her and get her number? I am very new to this and so It feels awkward in my head, but at the same time it could work.
You're overcomplicating this.
If anyone has better advice for how to go about this.....
You've chatted enough with her that you ought to be able to:
[–]SuitableFisherman 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
OP, avoid making comments about her looks as you ask her out, as it will get her guard up immediately and may make her distrustful of you (insofar as she interprets your looks-based compliment as an indication that all you are really interested in is sex, rather than being interested in her as a person). Since you have informally hung out, its a great opportunity to emphasize how cool you think she is, and how much of a good impression you have of her from what you know of her. And yeah, like everyone else said, don't ever do dinner on the first date. Like, for her sake and yours (I did dinner a couple times and learned its a terrible idea for first dates because if you don't like the girl you are stuck there for a long ass time and also its $$).
Honestly, I wonder what other people think about the "asking out someone in your class" thing, because it is a risk to the extent that, upon rejection, you will have to see that person X amount of times a week. My initial thoughts are that the approach must be super super light and friendly (as all asks should be, really).
[–]chronic_couchlock 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the help. I hadn't even thought about how commenting on her looks could make her think I'm already in it for the hookup. That's a really good point.
Also, I just want to clarify because everyone keeps criticizing the dinner date idea. I'm a freshman so I live on campus and eat 3 meals a day at the dinning halls. At my college it's far less formal to grab lunch or dinner than to go out for coffee, I've seen this firsthand. I totally see what you guys are saying If I was taking her out somewhere nice, but I would never do that on the first date. "Going out to dinner" at my college means let's go grab food from the dinning hall. It's a 20 minute ordeal start to finish. Not criticizing you for the comment, I think it's great advice. I just wanted to clear that up for everyone saying it would be crazy to do on the first date.
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