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[–]givenchyboy 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Personally, that’s a serious red flag for me dog. I always tell them I’ll text them the day we plan to meet, mostly because I don’t wanna invest time into a person I don’t even know. Also gives me the opportunity to see if she’ll do shit like this.
If the texting is like this already, and you haven’t even met, fucking run..
[–]Scorch6 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good point. But on the other hand, I know how quickly you can get the wrong impression over text, I personally have been on the other end of this many times. I'd like to give her another chance.
[–]DukeCanada 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think the response was fine. Just strike up a conversation and invite her over asap.
How to strike up convo when she refuses to reply to more than one message per day?
[–]Atriev 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You did pretty good tbh. I like the flirty reply you used.
I’d recommend getting her on the phone and talking with her if her texting sucks. The phone call can reawaken her.
Also, since you’re on the phone, you might as well try another closing sequence and try to iron out a date. (And even if things go good, just invite her over that same night as the phone call.)
[–]Scorch6 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She's pretty young though, 19. Not sure how that generation reacts to their phone suddenly making a ringing noise, I imagine that would remind them of their parents lol.
Anyway, I am pretty shitty with phonecalls myself (they make me uncomfortable), so I am not super familiar with how to approach this. Can you give a quick outline on phone game, if that's a thing? Would be much appreciated.
[–]Atriev 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
The secret to my phone game is the phone call. When I do cold-approach, my approach is going to be very solid. Usually I stay in set for 10 minutes on average. That's the standard length of my phone call as well. At around the 10 minute mark, I'm going to start seeding the pull to hint at plans. Remember, on average, it takes 3 attempts to close to make a sale. So if she rejects your plans, back off and flirt more, and then go for the close again, and again. Persistence pays off.
Remember the purpose of game: If a girl likes you, you can get her. GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED ON GIRLS THAT ARE ON THE FENCE WITH YOU. DO NOT GIVE UP. STICK IN THERE AND WIN HER.
If you're texting back and forth, you know she's holding her phone in her hand. Just call her and she'll pick up.
If a girl is flaky/unreceptive to me but she liked me when we exchanged contact info, I am going to do a call. I will structure the phone call the same way I structure a standard pick-up cold approach because I have a lot of confidence in a structured game cold-approach.
I text and we start texting back and forth, then at some point, I will respond and say, "Driving atm. I'll call you when I get home." Call her in 10-15 minutes.
Open: "Hey you.."
Premise: "I'm glad I got you on the phone. You sound as cute as I remembered/imagined." "Your laugh is so adorable."
Evaluate: "yeah, idk, I think I'm too crazy for you. You just seem too innocent."
Narrative: "You know what? It's good that we like each other. I don't usually open up to someone this quickly."
Close: Use the standard closing sequence. "We should totally hang out sometime." -she agrees- "Okay, what does your week look like?"
Suddenly, a girl who was very flaky will suddenly have her schedule magically open up.
This is Todd Valentine's "The System" structured game. I pledge and swear by this structure.
Best wishes.
Good info for anyone, kudos.
[–]TheHalfMonty 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Sounds shit testy
[–]Scorch6 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
It does, doesn't it. Can't really think of an obvious solution to that one.
[–]TheHalfMonty 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Well I tend to go for the usual routes: agree and exaggerate OR spin it to pretend that she's complimenting you.
But you're right, in this situation neither of those really apply haha. The second one is impossible and the first one would likely backfire.
[–]Scorch6 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I was thinking maybe turn it around now and say something like "Oh, so now you don't wanna text me anymore, isn't that something"? Maybe word it so it's more obvious that I'm joking, but you get the idea. Thoughts on that?
[–]TheHalfMonty 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well it depends, how good is your connection with this girl? If things are already rocky then she might turn you away with this.
[–]Scorch6 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We had a pretty good connection at first I think, but things got rocky now as I described. She is still texting though, even if it's just sporadic as fuck, so that's not bad, right?
[–]TheHalfMonty 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its not bad. We all have lives and things to do. You need to act like you don't even notice she is texting intermittently because your life is so busy and exciting for you to not notice.
[–]TheHalfMonty 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In retrospect, you could have turned it into a compliment to yourself in the tone of: 'I'm flattered you want to talk to me more. I agree i'm exciting'
Not in those words obviously
[–]Scorch6 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's pretty good. Kinda cocky and risky, but might have just been the thing to turn it around lol
[–]boodie_1961 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Girls are entitled nowadays: they expect you to grovel. You lose if you do, you lose if you don't. Don't lose your frame, no matter what.
So should I just wait?
[–]quinnmcd[M] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this post had to be taken down because it appears to be focused on a specific situation or person.
Any posts about a specific situational advice with a specific person should be directed to /r/askSeddit. (Note that is askSEDDIT, not askREDDIT.)
[–]PiperBigBell 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
She knows guys are sick of giving attention to women who will never meet up with them. You know why she's butthurt? Because she's one of those women who text you all day and either 1. Never have intention of meeting you 2. Want as much attention as possible, enough so she never has to meet 3. Just wants attention.
If she was really serious she'd look in her schedule and give you a day. You know why she didn't give you a day? She's waiting for reasons to be busy or something better to compare you against. You've never noticed women can never give you a definite answer when you pin them down for a time they specifically mentioned they weren't busy. It's always "Maybe. I'll let you know. I'll get back to you."
They leave you pursuing because you as the man are the initiate and also want it more. No matter what she gets what she wants. And no it's not PUA bullshit. It's about chicks not wasting your investment.
[–]Scorch6 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Are you okay bro? It's not that big a deal, I'll drop her if she keeps being difficult, I just would have liked to turn her around and needed advice for that. Honestly I just really like the idea of beer tasting as a date lol
[–]PiperBigBell 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What do you mean am I okay? I'm giving you the honest game about how women think and act. They will waste your time if you're not upfront, direct, and honest about what you want. Same thing you've been through I've seen and been through multiple times. Chicks that don't make you a priority, make you wait, will always leave you chasing and wanting
[–]Scorch6 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So in your opinion, what's the best course of action? I am not super wanting or chasing even, just would like to think of ways to turn her around. Honestly I just really like the idea of a beer tasting date lol. Anyway, if you have any advice on what to do, please, shoot
[–]PiperBigBell 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you really want it to.
Get her on the phone, because it's better for connecting. Flirt, build sexual tension, slowly seed and hype up how fun the beer date would be and how exactly things would go down (the conversation has to flow and seem like it has no agenda) tell her how she'll get to your house, what time, etc. Keep her out of the thinking process and into the fun this is so exciting, nothing is better than this frame. That's what I would do, have done. It works
[–]boodie_1961 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Move on. Find other girls. If this one comes back, fine. If not, next.
[–]Scorch6 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not really that huge a time invrstment to keep her texting though. I do have other leads as previously mentioned. I really don't think just "moving on" every time you have a bit of an issue is very efficient in terms of game.
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