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chocolateegg1233 · 2021-02-22T23:23:35+00:00

showing vulnerability is good for someone like brad pitt, that have so much people reacting to him that he have to show vulnerability to humanize himself, remember, girls need high value behavior and confort

For us mere mortals showing vulnerability does nothing but dry her panties to you

vulnerability is a gift that you show to people closer to you, your family, for your girl that you date for years, friends, not some random girl that you meet in the bar

Prestigious-Data-908 · 2021-02-22T20:12:55+00:00

So in the natural state of things you seduce someone unknowingly. That’s not what one wants to do. One wants to aimmmmm to seduce. If you aim at something you work towards it idk

Linkinsuave · 2021-02-23T04:21:41+00:00

Showing vulnerability for intimacy and romance sure. But to be vulnerable to solely seduce is not the optimal way. That’s some nice guy bs and there are much better ways.

Seduction is the complete psychological surrender of the opposite party you are trying to seduce, and showing them your vulnerability is most often like showing them your cards. When they know what to expect, your sense/aura of mystery is gone and there is no tension left in that regard that makes her want to pursue you. You are feeding out of her hands at best if you choose to be vulnerable at the forefront and you are losing the capacity to influence her the more you give yourself away.

2021-02-23T05:41:43+00:00

This info only works when they're already interested in you. It doesn't make them interested.

NaturalConnect · 2021-02-23T00:53:06+00:00

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Grand-Opportunity945 · 2021-02-23T06:56:44+00:00

From woman perspective I partly disagree. In my opinion you should show vulnerability only after creating the image of a strong man. In these circumstances vulnerability is seen as something beautiful and innocent. At the beginning it is perceived as insecurity and despair. The main point of seduction is to be unpredictable in a natural way, you need to balance between kindness and violence

TheOffice_Account · 2021-02-23T00:07:46+00:00

Another Mark Manson bullshit right there.

Visualize_ · 2021-02-23T05:42:27+00:00

I don't really see where vunerability truly comes into play with the post. Like if sounds like honesty if anything, to both yourself and others. You have to be honest with yourself instead of deluding into a trap of lowering standards just to fill a void that comes from scarcity. And then you should be honest with others with your intentions. Like the friendzone exists is because people try to become friends as a way to sneak into potentially transitioning that into a relationship. And while that sometimes is how romantic relationships are formed, the difference is the people who are getting friendzoned are hiding their true intentions the whole time.

In terms of vunerability itself, I do think it is important is does play a role somewhere with honesty, but I wouldn't say that is the ONE thing most important about seduction

StanDando · 2021-02-23T13:31:29+00:00

This outcome-independent stuff... needs more qualification. It's bandied about a lot online, but has anyone called out the emperor's new clothes? I wonder what you'd make of the following. Lets take it right back to the simplest foundations.

To come across as sexually outcome-independent, is one thing. Here there are skillsets - tactics, self-checks, and communication techniques to present that you are not bothered about having sex with her.

To actually be sexually outcome-independent, is quite another claim. In this scenario, you are actually not interested in having sex with her.

If that is the case, what would be the point in chatting her up and trying to learn pickup in the first place?? If you are somehow genuinely not bothered if you have sex or not, why are you paying for products, or investing time and energy into learning game?
If this effect is genuinely instilled, I believe that is through a background 'abundance mentality'. This mentality is created, as the term implies, through having an abundance of sexual options. Again - if this were the case for the student, why would they be reading about how toget women in the first place? Surely they would spend their precious breaks between all the harem girls and orgies, pursuing other interests. Also, for most males, a lucky abundance of sexual options is typically not permanent.
If you are indeed 'outcome-independent' when it comes to sex, then that is a scientific anomaly. Males need sex. A lot of the commercialised 'inner game' products, like RSD, somehow manage to operate in a parallel world where scientific findings don't apply. Men need and want sex. Those who are genuinely outcome-independent, must be so because of a deficiency in their sex drive. If they are so, congratulations to them, they are very lucky. But I for one don't think so highly of myself that I am above my evolutionary and endocrinal biology. If I am very thirsty, I am not outcome-independent when I see a glass of water. It is a biological instinct. Whether I can hide that for long enough to get close to the water source, is the subject of the second paragraph of this post.

If a commercial seduction business can convince their customers that they should be independent of results, or any measurable improvement with women, then they have the perfect formula for financial success with zero accountability.

2021-02-26T05:01:06+00:00

this is bad advice

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