How to Adopt Outcome Independence?

CocoBabeNYC · 2022-04-19T03:13:28+00:00

Focus on the process and let go of the outcome. Focus on being charming, outgoing, sexy and sexual but be okay with it going nowhere.

I will give you an example. Go out and pretend you are married or have a girlfriend. Humor me for shits and giggles. Image that although you are in a committed serious relationship, you are still a connoisseur of female beauty.

So let's say you go out for a drink and you see a beautiful girl, just your type. Now remember, you are supposed to be married. So just go up to her and say, "Hi, I'm totally not hitting on you, I'm married, but I think you look gorgeous." Introduce yourself shoot the shit a little bit. Remember, this will not go anywhere because the outcome is already predetermined for you. You are married so you are not going to try and get her in bed. You have even disqualified yourself already.

Notice the difference in interaction. Notice how relaxed you feel now that you don't have to achieve a specific outcome. Notice how women respond much better to you because you are not some horny thirsty motherfucker. That's outcome independence. To you it doesn't matter if she likes you or not. The outcome has no difference either way.

hagakurejunkie · 2022-04-19T20:18:15+00:00

I used to care but now I'm literally just out to amuse myself at this point.

I have dated women who have fallen madly in love with me and have been the most incredible females I've ever met.

If a chick I meet is not interested, I'm thankful.

Because what if that girl faked her interest in me, we went out, we hooked up, she faked the relationship and 4 years later told me she never loved me?

The girl who just rejected you just SAVED YOU 4 YEARS OF YOUR LIFE.

Look at it that way.

There are 109,000,000 women age 20-34 in the US. You simply do not have time to waste worrying about women who don't like you.

CompetitionFair7686 · 2022-04-19T00:33:45+00:00

You change your priorities about what outcome you seek, rather than seeking an outcome that depends on her, you seek an outcome that depends on you.

For example:

“My outcome is to be able to approach a girl and tell her a compliment”

This outcome depends on you, you are not focused on getting her number or anything, you just want to get that done, regardless of how she takes it.

Another example:

“My goal is to have fun with this interaction regardless of how the girl reacts, responds or behaves”

This outcome depends on you because you are the one choosing to make the situation fun for yourself no matter what the girl throws at you, she plays your games? Great. She rejects you, then you turn it into a joke just to amuse yourself. You are not there to amuse her but to amuse yourself, you don’t care if she laughs with your jokes because you do the jokes to laugh yourself and have a good time, even if she doesn’t.

Another example:

“My goal is to learn from this interaction”

This outcome depends on you because regardless of how the interaction goes, if you get rejected you can analyse it and learn from it, you can think of what you said and how you could have said it differently. Her rejection cannot stop you from learning as she isn’t in control of what you learn or not.

jsbach123 · 2022-04-19T00:19:08+00:00

You can't.

A lot of PUAs talk about being "outcome independent" which I think is a bullshit concept. It's a way to lie to yourself so you wouldn't feel so bad about rejection. It's like not being invited to a party and you say "I didn't wanna go anyways".

When a guy does an approach, he has an objective. The objective is to get a phone number, go on a date or even just getting her to talk.

The problem is, anytime you have an objective, you're not outcome independent.

What you have is just approach anxiety that everybody has. I don't have an insight on how to make it less. But I think it's important that you accept the fact you want a good outcome and that being outcome independent is impossible.

Title	How to Adopt Outcome Independence?
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Date	April 19, 2022 12:01 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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