Negative Pre-selection

opiumden · 2011-01-10T08:18:55+00:00

Um, why did dancing with the "low value girl" lower Delightful_White's value? White's mistake was kissing low value girl with the hot friend there. It didn't lower his value, but just made the situation socially unworkable for White to get to the hotter one. Putting yourself in hot girls shoes, imagine if you saw a chick making out with your good buddy and suddenly she bails him to come over and hit on you. Awkward. Hot girl was left with little choice but to steer clear.

White went WAY beyond disarming the obstacle, to say the least.

Here's the bottom line though. You can not lower your value by having women of any beauty level attracted to you. Period.

I have a buddy who purposely goes out of his way to be super nice to fat chicks. He has lots and lots of fat chick friends. And he always ends up sleeping with hot women... and the occasional fat chick too, hehe :P

frogma · 2011-01-10T13:25:10+00:00

That's not really what the situation was, but your idea is interesting nonetheless. It's certainly true in almost any scenario where you're with a really ugly/slutty girl, ugly/nerdy guys, basically if you're with anybody who's a turn-off to a lot of girls, there's a chance it'll lower your value with other women until you prove otherwise. However, if you're clearly cooler/more valuable than the people you're with, it makes you look that much better. It's an interesting topic, and I think everyone's had different experiences with it.

As a side note, I can tell you for sure, if you're with a couple of guys who are clearly more alpha, your relative value goes down automatically, while their's goes up.

ArMcK · 2011-01-10T15:16:44+00:00

I think the company of lower value girls is fine, especially if they're obviously fawning over you. However, don't make out with them in front of your target. It makes you look so eager for affection that your value dissipates. In fact, letting your target witness you making out with someone other than her has the distinct possibility of making you look like a loser (as stated) or a player, and if she's not into players. . .well then you just blew it. You may find some girls don't care. The one time I can think of this working to your advantage is once you've got a physical relationship established and you want to take it to a level of commitment she may not realize she's ready for. Then the jealousy may work to your advantage to push her into a committed relationship . Still, you'll probably get it wrong a few times until you've got enough experience to discern who and what you're dealing with.

scottsutherland · 2011-01-10T08:02:06+00:00

What do you mean by "negative pre-selection"?

Being pre-selected simply means that girls see other girls interested in you and realize that you have your choice in women, not the other way around. She realizes that you're alpha and that she will have to pursue you and earn the right to sleep with you, because you could easily sleep with any other woman.

It'll be interesting to read the responses to your other questions, because these delve from self-improvement seduction to some pretty deep social psychology.

cheddarchexmix · 2011-01-10T19:39:46+00:00

I can tell you unequivocally that just being in the company of people perceived as very low value will DEFINITELY lower your value, and your chances of picking up.

I often go out and find myself talking to strangers, often in a 1:1 setting. Sometimes these people are weirdos, very unattractive, and/or very socially awkward. I don't mind these things, because I like meeting people off my beaten path. But when I'm talking to someone (male or female) and someone else (of "high value") I just met comes up and re-opens me, and I introduce them to that low value person, they often immediately and perceivably lower their perception of me. It's guilt by association.

That said, if you are seen talking to lots of different people, and your target doesn't associate you as "attached" to those people, it pretty much doesn't matter who those people are.

Title	Negative Pre-selection
Author	Enthusizer
Upvotes	6
Comments	5
Date	January 10, 2011 7:15 AM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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