Numbers vs Same Day Lays

xxxmoneypower · 2012-01-29T02:35:57+00:00

2/3

DBABDGAF: "Hey do you know what kind of material this is?" point to my jacket

DERPINA:"UHHH I DUNNOOOO POLYESTER?"

DBABDGAF:"BOYFRIEND MATERIAL. BURNNNN."

DERPINA:"OMGG IVE NEVER HEARD THAT ONE BEFOREEE!"

DBABDGAF:"But seriously, you're a looker. You're not from around here, are you?"

15m.

Nights.

Call.

Full closing girls you've just met, in any situation other than a bar scene/club scene/social event, is a whole motherfucking other black art. If you really want consistent results like this in the field, brush up on your covert hypnosis, conversational belief change, and microexpression projection. It is viable to avoid all that and just go super natural, but you have to have the nerve to truly and utterly be yourself and convey desire in an easily digestible, nonthreatening, and genuine format. Which is the kind of skill set most people forget they have.

indigObstacle · 2012-01-29T03:33:44+00:00

I really feel you should be finding some of this out on your own, I understand why one would want statistics but any statistic you get is going to be unreliable due to the many variables involved.

But because I am a nerd, I will tell you anyway :P. I approach indirect, I can do direct but it's not my preference, talk in between 10 minutes to 45 minutes, day game, text. I suppose my "lay rate" is 1 out of 20 or 1 out of 25. I've never pulled a same day lay, but that's my goal this year, as well as ironing some of the other leaks out of my game.

frogma · 2012-01-29T17:36:20+00:00

I don't usually go for numbers unless it'll help with logistics later on. If it's day game and I can't immediately bring the girl somewhere, I'll just invite her to a party (and if it's Friday/Saturday, the party will usually be that same night). I won't try for a number unless it naturally gets brought up- instead I'll just invite her, then go find 10 other girls to invite. The conversations can last any amount of time- I don't have a schedule or anything. Sometimes I'd sit down with girls at the caf and just chat with em for a bit before inviting all of them. So anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour I guess.

I've only been able to "instantly" fuck girls during the day a few times. A couple times in my dorm room, a couple times at my townhouse, and a number of times at my house (especially in high school). Probably half of those times were with girls I had talked to before, so it wasn't a cold approach. But then there have been a few times (especially at school) where I met the girl in the caf or outside the dorm, then basically just brought her back to my room. What I'm saying is, same day lays are harder to pull unless you live in a good area for it (places to go up and down the street, your/her place is nearby, shit like that).

Same night lays are real easy. Go to a decent bar, talk to 5-10 girls, or up to 20-30 if it's a big place, then basically make some headway with the ones you like, and push it further with the few you really like (especially if they're making it easy or whatever). Then pick one or two and try to make something happen with at least one of them. That's usually how I do it. It's "safer" in a lot of ways- you can build up decent attraction/comfort with every girl, not get blown off by any, constantly bail and reinitiate with them (helps build attraction and shit), make out with a few (and then if sex doesn't work, at least you had some fun), then be escalating more with the ones you want. By the time you've gone through all that, your options should be pretty good (like all these girls are technically still available unless they left the place or have boyfriends or whatever), and you can try to bail with a few of the girls (you should only need to try with one, and she should be the best option). Works the same way with parties/clubs or any decent-sized venue like that.

Title	Numbers vs Same Day Lays
Author	indigObstacle
Upvotes	2
Comments	24
Date	January 29, 2012 1:37 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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