Stop emotionally manipulating and be yourself

yoshua- · 2019-10-07T07:12:28+00:00

You're a girl right?

hale326 · 2019-10-07T08:27:25+00:00

I agree with you. I believe most tactics are either a way to fake confidence or to get things going even without it. I see lots of men here who really just care about getting laid, which is fine, except when they manipulate a woman in to thinking it's something else. But if she knows, well, everyone has free will and free choice to do what they please and I won't be judging.

What you say takes knowing one self and having love for one self, which is definitely harder than manipulating people. What you say leads to deeper human interaction, which is something everyone craves for but that not everyone values.

When you know yourself you know people, because at our core we are all the same. At that moment you can seduce with empathy, which is at the other side of the spectrum from manipulation, and it is something that fills with meaning those whom you seduce and yourself.

So yeah, you are right. But what you say isn't easy, so don't be surprised to be scoffed at. Most people (men and women alike) hate themselves and have a cynical, stereotyped view of the opposite sex, which together lead to manipulation to get what they want. Which is funny, because they are not only manipulating who is in front of them: they are also manipulating themselves in to thinking it's what they want.

smoothmax · 2019-10-07T13:01:19+00:00

The tricks don't work unless deep down you are being yourself and it's the genuine "you" who's acting that way. Women see right through to the real person.

The real advice should be, stop bothering women and wasting their time by approaching them and running routines on them until you're a relaxed, confident and happy guy.

There is no such thing ss a manipulation that works. Much as a lot of lazy and maladjusted guys would like there to be.

TheXXL · 2019-10-07T07:58:29+00:00

Save the tactics and be authentically you. You are enough as you are, wherever you are. The right person will see it and the relationship will feel easy.

That's exactly what incels do... Oh the irony...

Imperator_Pyra · 2019-10-07T08:16:58+00:00

These sort of posts are something of a weekly occurence now, it's just the same mainstream view reiterated and there's no real value to be gained from this, and these posts make me feel that r/seduction should impose similar rules as the ones r/femaledatingstrategy has - they don't allow male posters. Maybe we should not allow female posters and keep this as a safe space for men who want to learn seduction. Just a thought...

WIA20XX · 2019-10-07T09:55:26+00:00

Do you wear makeup or nah?

bleezses-is-dead · 2019-10-07T10:02:32+00:00

inner game does help those who are really shy and awkward though

MGTOWFORLIFE1828 · 2019-10-07T11:20:56+00:00

I would be honest with you. Some guys do not care , we just want sex. Some of us will do anything to get laid specially manipulate them into our bed.

axe122 · 2019-10-07T11:26:32+00:00

This is not a very good argument. Most of the stuff in seduction is taken negatively because the person chooses to read it that way. It’s a tool to get you positive results so you see your self confidence build. So because a guy didn’t get dates in high school or college and never built any seduction or social skills with women he should never learn to seduce a woman and because he wasn’t considered cool in high school he’s not cool or deserving of women ever? This stuff helps you become it and it just becomes who you are which is probly who you wanted to be. I personally don’t sleep with every girl I can sleep with but I don’t judge anyone wants that. I personally know first hand it wasn’t my personality the girls didn’t like it was my behaviors. My weak behaviors what were turning them off running for the hills or if I would get one have them bored within 6 months. Once I altered them bad behaviors I started getting the girls I wanted and keeping them instead of getting thrown away when they got bored of me and wanted a new dog with new tricks -and new toys. So by altering my bad behaviors and learning a few pickup techniques I’m not able I comfortably be myself in social situations and on dates with girls.

Title	Stop emotionally manipulating and be yourself
Author	teresa102692
Upvotes	2
Comments	38
Date	October 7, 2019 7:08 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/defzhu/stop_emotionally_manipulating_and_be_yourself/
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