Taking too long to escalate?

FriendlyWrenChilling · 2025-03-09T04:53:30+00:00

The only way to escalate faster is to build more tension faster. Usually how we achieve this is to kino more and faster, use more sexual innuendoes, gunwitch and transfer state and logistically escalate.

Yes, women expect men to escalate. But, if you manage to set up the prizeability frame and make her chase, she will be the one escalating through the buy-in mechhanism, NOT tension. See my post on "how to make women chase"

Likely your issue is not cofidence, but your issue is not being ableto build tension properly. The begineers way to build tension is following and doing the kino ladder properly. See my post on escalation for that. You can also combine it with some of the things I said in the first paragraph.

CoachSlyDating · 2025-03-09T07:25:01+00:00

It’s not a question of fast or slow, but what is the highest success rate for F-closes, especially with girls that you REALLY like. There is nothing more devastating than running great game on a girl you truly like and then blowing it on the escalation.

Bottom line is that you can have a successful escalation either fast or slow. A lot of the escalation is done in advance by running good game over text or in person, generating a high-level of attraction. Realize that if you escalate too quickly and she is not receptive, you run the risk of blowing out the interaction entirely. There is often nothing more unattractive than an uncalibrated horny dude to the hotter girls.

I had a a girl I met online drive through a blizzard at 1am to see me and clothes started coming off within 5 minutes of meeting. I knew she was down and made strong eye contact right from the beginning. She was in hte entrance to my bedroom and we immediately started making out, because I held the tension and leaned into it. This can happen, but i had done a lot of pre-work with strong text game.

I have also dragged out the escalation over several hours. It is a constant two step forward one step back until the girl was into it. The hottest girls tend to require this level of investment, because they have so many guys try this shit and a weak escalation will not fly. You need to differentiate by being the one that is a little more aloof and even more calibrated. Really hot girls are hyper-sensitive to escalation because they are screening you to see if you have an ounce of neediness. If you over-escalate you run the risk of blowing it out entirely and it is difficult to recover.

To escalate faster, you need to gain comfort or attraction faster. If you invite the girl directly to your place, you should start escalating within 10 minutes. I usually give the girl a quick tour of my place - so she is comfortable with the layout and can see I’m not a weirdo. You need to set the vibe with the environment - it should be dimly lit and there should be light music when she enters. Then you start small and slowly work your way up. Touch her hands. Pull back. Touch her thigh. Pull back. At some point she might escalate further - in which case you tell her to slow down. Ironically, this will speed up the escalation because she will usually throw herself at you harder. These pushes and pulls are critical to a successful escalation.

If a girl is not receptive to two to three escalations in a row, I realize that I have not gained enough comfort and she is not ready for sex. When that happens, I change the location. I move her to the kitchen to grab a drink, I take her on the balcony, I take her outside, then I bring her back and try again. She needs to see that you are interested in her as a person and not just a piece of meat.

Cheers,

Coach Sly

RadiantTry9442 · 2025-03-09T07:44:55+00:00

Simple, yet a very effective tip.

Do not move yourself closer. You offer her a spot next to you. offering her a calm reassurances of you’re not gonna “bite” as the older folks would say. In my mind, you moving closer shows immediate interest and gives two vibes. Nervous and Needy.

Just offer her up a spot or let her sit first and then take your seat right next to her.

Dandys3107 · 2025-03-09T09:05:04+00:00

Not attracted enough, not warmed up, not comfortable enough, not connected with you, poor/mid circumstances or just not in the mood for whatever reason. And yes, you need to take initiative. Read the room and figure out how you can make it more intimate, don't pay too much attention to things that won't help you escalate or even exert some stranger/reserved vibe. Keep coming closer, look her in the eyes longer, become more direct and personal with conversation, trigger plenty of emotions, use any opportunity to make physical contact. After plenty of such small steps, when you are close to each other, having fun with conversation and looking each other in the eyes, kissing is already really close. And remember about constantly improving your sexually attractive traits, if we look at it straightforward women seek extraordinary pleasures from romantic contacts.

BatBottleBank · 2025-03-09T09:07:37+00:00

If you were chad you wouldnt need to ask these qs. Remember that, in the past, the girl you’re seeing put in 100x the effort for someone she met 5 mins ago.

That might change your perspective on how keen you want to be with them.

MineDesperate2920 · 2025-03-11T14:40:27+00:00

Sounds like you’re just a little off your game. Likely putting off subtle little cues you don’t know you are to not seems as comfortable as you could be. Just keep trying. It also sounds like even already the second ones going better than the first. So your on the right track

ThatDarnSmell · 2025-03-09T05:18:45+00:00

You can still have an enjoyable night without sex. Don't feel bad just because someone was over at your place and it didn't happen; there's no sense of entitlement in that regard. I had a lot of dates in the past where I'd have a woman over and we pretty much did everything but sex and yet still had a great time. Many women may even respect you more for not rushing towards sex on day one if you gel well. Don't just view it as a "failure to escalate" or that you're automatically friendzoned.

Title	Taking too long to escalate?
Author	heushsnshd
Upvotes	3
Comments	8
Date	March 9, 2025 3:45 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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