The answer to almost every single question that you have is to have outcome independence.

etcomro · 2014-08-26T19:24:25+00:00

This should be required reading before posting in /r/askseddit

innitgrand · 2014-08-27T08:59:04+00:00

Is it OK to grab her boobs on the streets without talking to her?

This answer is only good for people who don't escalate enough. I was recently out with a friend and under the motto of outcome independence he made a LOT of girls VERY uncomfortable. There is a difference between outcome independence (what the outcome does for you) and reading the situation (what does she think about what you just did).

I realise that giving off a rapey vibe is not the problem of most people of seddit but if you routinely get a lot of girls and have a big "Fuck it" mentality then check if you might be blowing past another person's boundaries.

Cali_Val · 2014-08-26T23:50:44+00:00

While I agree be "outcome independent" with approaches, keep having it in mind that you're there to Close. If you continuously have pure "outcome independence" as your mental state of mind, you wont advanced into "fuck this, I want to be a closer". You'll keep getting the same results if you don't have a high enough goal.

duodan · 2014-08-26T23:10:04+00:00

Yo...mods, we should get this stickied or sidebarred or something.

Orbett · 2014-08-27T07:37:48+00:00

I agree with you, but let me play devil's advocate; the majority of people who need to ask questions like 'if she does x then should I think y?' or equivalent are asking because they're inexperienced. A lot of the time, if you have to ask for dating advice on the internet, you're actually probably doing something wrong and definitely having confidence issues. It's easy for those of us who are comfortable with women to say 'man up and stop caring so much'; but when you're not getting any, consistently, your confidence is low, your mindset spirals, and not caring about outcomes is actually pretty impossible.

2014-08-27T04:53:53+00:00

Getting to the point where you don't give a shit is the hard part, I guarantee that's where most of the posters/readers here struggle. None of us can just wake up tomorrow and 100% not care. I suppose your advice here would be to practice? I'd say overall, you're right. But getting to that sweet level of confidence takes time.

Indianbro · 2014-08-26T23:05:38+00:00

Epic. Needed this.

1vibe · 2014-08-27T15:16:47+00:00

Great advice for life in general

eggsncheese · 2014-08-27T16:21:24+00:00

I think there comes a point where you have to START caring though....like ok let's say you're not caring and whatever, and then you hook up with a girl, and you keep hooking up with teh same one, and thenyou start going on dates, and then she wants to define the relationship and you're into it, because, why not, fuck it...then you eventually become outcome dependent...there's got to be some point when you let your guard down...

solo_han · 2014-08-28T06:11:23+00:00

Just curious, how old are you OP? I'm 23 and really getting over the final parts of AA myself

little_banjo · 2014-08-27T15:45:02+00:00

Being outcome independent never did anything for me.

In10sity · 2014-08-27T16:14:25+00:00

Terrible advice that makes sense to only people that have overcome this problem. There are plenty of clueless guys out there that are helped by asking those questions, just because you don't suffer from it doesn't mean it isn't important.

Title	The answer to almost every single question that you have is to have outcome independence.
Author	Endoss
Upvotes	124
Comments	25
Date	August 26, 2014 7:23 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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