So I have toyed around with the Mystery Method to some success, but finding that it is hard to continue after first date/ close and it always feels like I am faking it. Where as Ross Jeffries Neuro Linguistic Programming methods work better for actually forming a connection with the woman, but are harder to open with. So what i have been thinking is the following.

1) Use a standard mystery method opener to approach a target/ group, then try to have a legitimate conversation where i can learn something about the target, while using minor amounts of negging and

2) Isolate, by either having a friend come bale or finding a break in conversation, offer a drink, etc., where I can get the target away from the group.

3) Ease into NLP by bringing up past conversation topics and trying to form a bond.

Only thing is, I know some people have an issue with NLP, seeing as it is possible to use it to manipulate someone. I do not intend to do this, but is it really that bad? Because I feel like with Mystery Method I could just not give two shits about what the chic is saying, but with NLP I feel like I am manipulating her slightly.