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[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It is your THOUGHTS that lead to your mindset. When you view things in the seduction scenery as negative ( a girl is too hot for you, you'll never lose weight, you'll always be unattractive, etc) it's because of your THOUGHTS. Learn to control your thoughts and stop viewing everything as negative, which in turn will help you accept yourself, which is a big start to improving yourself
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I'd have to say that my mindset has changed drastically when I started practicing a religion/philosophy. I had dreaded going to work 40 hours a week for something that felt pointless. In the end, I accepted two truths. 1) Life is suffering. 2) Modify your wants and desires to minimalize/eliminate said suffering.
Now, I look forward to practically everything. I'm in the moment and I just feel considerably better about everything, even "bad" things.
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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
Yeah my literature teacher and I were discussing it today :)
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Dr. David D. Burns is the fucking man. His other book, Intimate Connections, is even better.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I need to get reading Feeling Good. I'm in the chapter on criticism. What more can I expect?
[–]Toxicgrimace -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Guess he doesn't teach you grammar as well. (*"my literature teacher and I").
[–]L1AM 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey man you're completely right and it's always preferable to have correct grammar, but the correction doesn't add directly to the conversation about mindset improvement. Maybe send a message next time.
It's a literature class not a grammar class
[–]Toxicgrimace -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thats why I followed up with, "-as well."
[–]lonestandingone 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Since I am not an English language native, I appreciate these corrections. It would cost me 200 dollars per month to have a good English teacher around here.
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[–]puaCurveBall 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Good diagram, however the part about mood is false. It has been shown that you can experience panic and other emotions before the brain even has time to process the data.
True 99% of the time for most people... just small nitpick.
[–]a_simple_problem 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
That only occurs when the amygdala is stimulated (during period of extreme danger, fear etc.) leading to a fight or flee response. I doubt most sedditors experience that talking to girls.
[–]zach84 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
The diagram says that you consciously think these the thoughts that fuck you up. I think they are actually ingrained in your subconcious. In other words when you start feeling nervous, you don't think thoughts to get yourself nervous, you just have beliefs and assumptions based off of past experiences that cause that you automatically respond by feeling nervous.
I think using a positive affirmation or thinking on past reference experiences are conscious thoughts. Your automatic responses are not conscious. You can proactively think consciously about the nervousness and remind yourself that's bs, but it takes action to actually know these things. A belief is comforting, but knowledge is what actually gives you a paradigm shift - not just reading something on the internet.
What I'm saying is that having the proper beliefs BACKED UP by reference experiences (which requires you to take action) will later change your subconscious.
[–]a_simple_problem 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
All true, but I find that the subconscious irrelevant as I have no control over it. "Your auto response are not conscious" -- also true, burns gives ways to change these responses in that book, and working on that first (anxiety/irrational fear) is much easier than brute-force approach till i die ways to get practice and experience.
[–]zach84 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I don't fully understand, could you expand on your points?
How do you change your auto responses, according to him? And what are the brute-force approaches?
[–]a_simple_problem 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
He says that most of our emotional disturbances are caused by mental distortions - faulty ways of thinking that cause reality to be skewed in our minds. I 'm not sure if i can adequately explain this here but here is a pdf that might help - http://www.apsu.edu/sites/apsu.edu/files/counseling/COGNITIVE_0.pdf
[–]zach84 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow this is great. Thank you for sharing this. It's late not but tomorrow I'll take part in this activity. I've realized that I'm guilty of just about all of these distortions. What about you?
[–]a_simple_problem 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was..but one day at a time lol
[–]zach84 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How'd you go about whittling these down? One at a time?
[–]EternalOptimist829 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
For the sake of conversation How do you think Buddhist monks are able to transcend these feelings without instinctually acting on them before realization?
[–]puaCurveBall 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
First, you'd have to show that buddhist monk's are actually capable of overcoming the reptile brain (possibly, but I haven't seen evidence of this), and second, you'd have to show that monks are somehow better at it than the general population for me to theorize on why they are different.
[–]EternalOptimist829 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
http://worldsfamousphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/budist_monk_on_fire.jpg didn't scream, resist, anything.
Plus they've done things like put monks in sensory deprivation chambers. Most people will freak out within minutes of recieving absolutely zero outside stimulus but monks are able to last upwards of hours before panic. It seems like you can train your brain to instinctually resist fear, and even pain. If not, you can enter a state where these impulses are quieter.
[–]puaCurveBall 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not screaming / resisting is not evidence that his amygdala isn't creating these emotions, only that the monk is in control of them.
Controlling emotions and not having them are two different things.
Furthermore, that is one instance, and not something many monks could do.
I've spent a lot of time with buddhist monks, and I've spent a lot of time in a sensory dep tank.
Saying "Most people will freak out within minutes" is totally false and just tells me you don't have much experience with them.
I would say "Most People" could easily spend hours in a tank without worry, and will regard it as extremely relaxing. (heck a lot of people fall asleep in them)
I never said you can't train your brain to resist impulses, I'm only saying that those impulses can happen without interaction with the conscious mind / brain.
I think you are having an argument with yourself, because you seem to be wanting to talk about points I'm not making, and agree with you on.
[–]EternalOptimist829 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Depends. As a psychonaut I've heard of some interesting experiences in sensory deprivation (I was underwhelmed by my own sole experience). Then again the people I was talking to about it were people looking for a psychedelic experience so maybe they were exaggerating their experience. Nonetheless I think this only strengthens the idea that you will find whatever you are looking for in whatever is around you.
Also you said your brain can "experience panic and other emotions before the brain even has time to process the data." But how is this possible if your brain is in fact that which processes the other emotions? How can your brain process something before your brain processes something?
Am I misunderstanding? Are you referring to a subconscous reaction before you become conscious and aware of it? Or are you talking about reflexes that actually occur in your CNS? I just found this interesting and would like more info on it.
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