Okay this is a little rant. I've recently started to read / write on this subreddit, and I am totally missing this "third wave" stuff here. Just honestly, if you are out for real high quality women, and you don't play on authenticity ("be the best version of yourself"), she will fucking shoot holes into your approach all over. Well if she's a sane high quality woman, and not halfways damaged. Girls learn to read and judge guys for such behavior in a kindergarten age, if you start acting on a basis that you don't own, they'll usually totally tear you apart and you'll go home thinking "ouch". The issue is not really solvable by turning into an approach machine or learning "how to act around women". Quality females will screen you for "hard to obtain human qualities", because they have choice all over. You need to have some stuff going on that sticks out, or they'll dump you right away. This is where the third wave comes into play. You need to look what you already have going for you, and improve on that, until you have enough to offer. Also, there are some shortcuts like meditation (which I also don't see discussed here), that give you a sort of peace of mind that would otherwise be hard to obtain, and some other techniques. Also, people usually ask for quick fixes for their weak spots, which won't help you much. The issue is that many guys come into the "scene" wanting "that women thing fixed", so they're in a problem-focused mindset anyway. So what you see is a lot of people offering those quick fixes, but that doesn't make people really improve much. The most thorough way to improve, is to look at what your strong sides are, what you are already good at, and majorly dig into how to get better with those, which is a lot more fun, will get you much more out of this "women problem" frame (which is deadly infield anyway), make you improve much faster and also in the long run, hammer out your little issues anyway. You are good at socializing? Work on your social skills. You are good with humor? Read and watch stuff from the "how to make women laugh" category. You can even scientifically prove that you'll develop much faster this way. Stop asking for quick fixes, and stop asking people for lines to text back to girls. If you are standing in front of the girl finally, and you can't live up to the expectations that you generated, you're in trouble, so the only way to actually also get the girl, is to be able to generate such stuff on demand, and from your own personality. That's why there are no quick fixes that really help, that's why other people won't pick up girls for you (heh), and just honestly: There is no really short route. You need to put in quite some amount of work, and although anyone will promise you that you just need this one product to get good, it's really a long learning curve, and you need to have the willingness to put that work in it. If you are not willing to put that work in it, it's better you leave the scene now. You'll just fail terribly and give us a bad mouth. If you are serious about it though, put in work to improve your strong sides (like i said), and also use that approach on all other areas of your life. And go find real quality material, and first and foremost, learn to do all this your personal way. Everything else will make you end up being another fake out there, getting destroyed infield like all the other fakes. Only thing you'll end up with, is damaged girls, sluts and whatnot. Play on your own strengths, not the strengths of other people. </rant>