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[POLL] Is Male Circumcision Child Abuse? | Immodest proposal

Thinkmoreaboutit

May 31, 2017
41 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.ozy.com/immodest-proposal/is-male-circumcision-child-abuse/77320
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Title [POLL] Is Male Circumcision Child Abuse? | Immodest proposal
Author

Thinkmoreaboutit

Upvotes 41
Comments 33
Date May 31, 2017 5:05 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6egc2a/poll_is_male_circumcision_child_abuse_immodest/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/poll-is-male-circumcision-child-abuse-immodest.921506
https://theredarchive.com/post/921506
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Comments

[–]jimbobrosso 20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

YES (drop mic walks away)

[+][deleted] -20 points-19 points-18 points 9 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

(Picks up mic) Actually it's not...

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit[S] 20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

Forced infant circumcision is rape, mutilation, child abuse, and a human rights violation.

[–]Korinthe -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

is rape

If everything is rape, nothing is.

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit[S] 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Stimulating an infants genitals an inserting tools is definitely rape.

[–]Korinthe 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree that its rape.

Rape is rape, and to preserve the severity attached to it, it needs to stay that way.

Appropriating the word into situations outside of rape is something we condemn feminists for doing; "he looked at me for too long I was raped" sort of thing.

Its gross medical misconduct and shouldn't be happening, but its not rape.

[–]Elkubik 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

From Oxford dictionary

1 The crime, typically committed by a man, of forcing another person to have sexual intercourse with the offender against their will.

I shall remain impartial

Edit: it is abuse however

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit[S] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Fuck that definition. That's absolute shit.

Here's a much better one:

unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.

an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation

[–]Gamogi 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

According to that, shoving a bottle of milk into a baby's mouth is rape...

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit[S] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you attempting to equate nourishing a child with flaying their penis?

Get fucked.

[–]Elkubik 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. But Oxford thinks otherwise. And Oxford dictionaries are the most popular (at least here in south UK).

[–]Korinthe 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Totally agree with you.

It is abuse and it must stop, calling it rape as a way of hyperbole won't aid us in that goal, however.

[–]probably_a_squid 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

What essential characteristic does it lack that makes it not rape?

[–]Korinthe 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It is not sexual in nature.

It is performed, with intent, to enact changes which are sexual in nature.

But the act itself is not sexual.

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not hyperbole. How is it not rape? What do you call it?

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit[S] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Then sexual assault? Why be pedantic?

[–]Korinthe -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because we need to be as accurate as possible when talking about issues we want to be changed.

We are already the black sheep, don't give them anything to drag your argument down with. Incorrect wording will weaken your message.

As will your apparent overly aggressive tone, you want to fix that if you can - it doesn't bother me so much, but for someone already resistant to your side of the argument all you do is make them even more defensive.

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit[S] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rape is accurate.

Sexual assault is accurate.

What do YOU call it?

[–]splodgenessabounds 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Obvious troll is obvious.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because no one could have a different opinion right?

[–]splodgenessabounds 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Having a "different" opinion doesn't necessarily make it worthy.

[–]the_unseen_one 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh great, it's this jackass again...

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So jackass must mean "guy who disagrees with you" in stupid

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

no, by jackass we mean "guy who is pro genital mutilation of children"

[–]rg57 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not only is it child abuse, it's child sex abuse.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Go to the comments. See the first man (Brother K) he is making a real difference.

He is one of the biggest reasons that MGM has gone down in frequency.

As MRAs we need to do protests and stage events like he does.

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit[S] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I love Brother K. If you follow him, you may know me :P

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Im friends with him on facebook.

[–]AssAssIn46 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The comment section gives me hope. Nice to see that for a change.

[+][deleted] -15 points-14 points-13 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit[S] 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is talking about forced infant circumcision.

Care to revise your statement?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh...forced circumcision yeah that shit is fucked up

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what other kind of infant circumcision is there? lol

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