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Female Guards at Juvenile Detention Center Used Male Inmates As "Sex Slaves"

GrammerNatziHypacrit

August 31, 2017
178 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://nypost.com/2017/08/30/teen-says-juvenile-detention-center-used-inmates-as-sex-slaves/
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Title Female Guards at Juvenile Detention Center Used Male Inmates As "Sex Slaves"
Author

GrammerNatziHypacrit

Upvotes 178
Comments 37
Date August 31, 2017 12:49 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6x6n64/female_guards_at_juvenile_detention_center_used/
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[–]HeForeverBleeds 34 points35 points36 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Everyone already knows prison rape is a thing, but society still has a hard time recognizing that much of that abuse is perpetrated by women, at least when the victims are boy juveniles

[–]xNOM 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sexual Victimization in Juvenile Facilities Reported by Youth 2008-09, USDOJ Bureau of Justice Statistics (mensrightslinks)

[–]andejoh 26 points27 points28 points 8 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

So much for not releasing an alleged rape victim's name.

[–]NebulousASK 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

I think that's usually the case for criminal investigations/trails, not so much when a person sues under their real name in a civil case.

If the plaintiff/victim wanted anonymity he could have sued as "John Doe" as some have. He didn't choose to do that.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

It's been the case forever. Even when she sues. They have no respect nor care for men who are rape victims.

[–]NebulousASK 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

It's been the case forever. Even when she sues.

Can you provide an example where the female plaintiff gives her name, but the media coverage withholds it?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Really? And exactly how would I google that?

[–]NebulousASK 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

If you have no examples of this, why do you believe it has "been the case forever"?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

If you have no examples of this, why do you believe it has "been the case forever"?

Because I've been reading the news for decades.

[–]NebulousASK 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And you remember cases where women who sued using their names were protected by the media... but you can't find any of those cases anymore?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Amazingly, I don't remember the names of the women to google from articles where their names are excluded... kinda surprising huh?

[–]NebulousASK 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fair enough, but I don't think anyone's going to take your word on it.

As far as I've been able to find, if a plaintiff sues in his or her own name and the media reports on it, they use the name. But maybe we'll find a counter-example at some point.

[–]Imnotmrabut -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Anecdote Alert!

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you've got data, be my guest. Otherwise, all we have is our own experiences. Yes?

[–]Imnotmrabut -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6x6n64/female_guards_at_juvenile_detention_center_used/dme77n1/

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[–]Glass_wall -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The reason I don't believe that is that I normally see a disclaimer. We don't normally release the name of a person who alleged they were raped, but they've either given permission or came out publicly, etc. Even in civil suits where they don't file under their own name I see we're not naming the victim. Maybe I can find an example.

"While The Post doesn’t normally identify alleged victims of sexual assaults, Kinsman went public last year when she told her story in the controversial documentary “The Hunting Ground"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/12/15/jameis-winston-settles-civil-lawsuit-with-accuser-in-sexual-assault-case/?utm_term=.77b5511fc4d7

Her lawsuit was filed as jane doe or maybe not, but that wasn't sufficient for them to reveal her identity. She had to go public with it.

[–]NebulousASK 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

As far as I can tell, her name was reported by the Tampa newspaper in the very first article after she filed her lawsuit under her own name.

So in this case, as in every case I've seen, when a person files a lawsuit under their own name, the newspapers report the name. Unless you have a counterexample, it doesn't look like they're treating the plaintiff any differently here than they've treated other plaintiffs before.

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There is Derrick Rose's case. He won his suit. The judge ruled that she couldn't proceed as Jane Doe, but I don't know of any except for some non-main stream media outlets that identified her by name.

[–]NebulousASK 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wasn't familiar with the case, but a little Googling indicates Jane Doe won her motion and was allowed to stay anonymous in both trials. Did I miss something?

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://digitaledition.chicagotribune.com/tribune/article_popover.aspx?guid=24fdf60b-9f0d-435a-9523-375b8c7542c7

"A federal judge ruled Tuesday that a woman accusing NBA star Derrick Rose of rape cannot remain anonymous at her upcoming civil trial. "

http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/21/derrick-rose-accuser-to-be-stripped-of-anonymity-at-trial/

"U.S. District Judge Michael W. Fitzgerald said Tuesday that the law was very clear on the issue and he wouldn’t close his courtroom to protect her identity. He said any decision by the news media about whether to name her is a journalistic decision."

I didn't see where she won her motion. The judge was also clear (and he's correct) that there is no rape shield law as far as reporting goes (that includes criminal cases as well in the U.S. The U.K. is different.) The MSM tends to have a policy not to report a name unless the person agrees or makes themselves known evem when their identity has already been leaked. It's not clear in the above case that the victim agreed to allow his identity to be known. What we know is that the media outlet chose to release his identity.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, SJW feminist types are always hollering that they just believe in fairness and equality. I’m skeptical, but this case is their chance to prove it. They should:

  • Support fair media coverage of judicial proceedings and social reaction to the case. That includes objective discussion of any broader relevant male issues this case may raise. No hiding away from evidence demonstrating that women commit more child abuse than men in domestic settings, and that there have been worryingly numerous cases involving females in authority abusing boys in the workplace.

  • If the perpetrators are found guilty in court, SJW’s should support that the women receive the same sentence a male perpetrator would, for the same crime. If the earnings gap…..uh wage gap is a crime, so is unequal sentencing.

I don’t actually enjoy hating on people. If SJW’s want to do the right thing, or at least even be willing to civilly discuss it, I’ll be the first in line to shake and make up.

[–]Halafax 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If SJW’s want to do the right thing, or at least even be willing to civilly discuss it

They won't have to. The press will minimize the issue on their behalf, and most people will never know.

[–]Glass_wall 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

An operator at Horizon said he could not locate a worker there named Medford

The alleged abuser is no longer working there and has been working with mentally disabled children for 2 years.

Also the article is wrong her name is Nathalie not Natalie.

Hardly surprising they failed to find her with a misspelled name at the job she left 3 years ago. . .

[–]ISOanexplanation 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great. Mentally disabled children are no doubt even easier to rape.

[–]Koalachan 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But it says it couldn't find anyone named "Medford," not "Natalie."

[–]Glass_wall 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not gonna find her regardless. She hasn't worked there since 2014 according to her linkedin profile.

[–]AnotherDAM 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are JUVENILES therefore the headline is utterly desensitizing.

They aren't "male inmates" they are BOYS or TEENS.

[–]Imnotmrabut 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sexual victimization in juvenile facilities - U.S. Department of Justice
Approximately 95% of all youth reporting staff sexual misconduct said they had been victimized by female staff. In 2008, 42% of staff in state juvenile facilities were female.
Beck, Allen J. Sexual victimization in juvenile facilities reported by youth, 2008-2009. DIANE , U.S. Department of Justice Publishing, 2010. NCJ 228416

[–]DougDante 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Join me in tweeting:

.@CivilRights @TheJusticeDept @realDonaldTrump Teen says juvenile detention used inmates as sex slaves #mensrights http://nypost.com/2017/08/30/teen-says-juvenile-detention-center-used-inmates-as-sex-slaves/

We remember: you have know about #rape of inmate boys and failure to enforce #VAWA for 3+ years #mensrights https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1vlght/action_opportunity_usdoj_please_stop_protecting/

We remember: #Michigan boy #inmates raped and denied #VAWA protection. #genderequity #mensrights https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism/comments/1sz6o9/action_opportunity_all_some_michigan_boys_want/

We Remember: #WashingtonState still discriminates against raped and abused boys and men inmates #mensrights https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1q9xk7/women_behind_bars_state_takes_a_new_approach/cdasu2a/

We remember: @EricHolder foot dragged his sacred duty to protect boys and men equally under #VAWA #mensrights https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/19wmky/vawa_protects_men_update_statement_by_attorney/c8ryj60/

We remember: boys and men raped in strict discipline academies, and denied equality under the law #VAWA #mensrights https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism/comments/1qj7d6/action_opportunity_protect_innocent_boys_from/

[–]contractor808 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe the department of Justice Statistics keeps a record of such cases in annual reports. In those records, female staff were 90% of alleged staff sexual misconduct offenders while being 40% of total staff.

[–]BernieSandersgirl101 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hit them, hard. Break their legs. I hate people who use people as slaves.

[–]BernieSandersgirl101 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know that I might get reported for this, but I don't care.

I hope that they get assigned to Gen Pop.

[–]Mythandros -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I am a firm believer that the punishment should fit the crime. Those female guards should be carted away in chains as sex slaves. A fitting punishment.

[–]Historybuffman 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No one else is gonna say it?

Dude, rape is wrong. It doesn't matter what you did, if you are male or female or an Apache helicopter.

We have laws against cruel and unusual punishment because people get vindictive like this. Let her serve her time and pay her debt, and maybe her victims can move on.

[–]Mythandros 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know rape is wrong, but there are some people that exist who deserve to be treated like the monsters they are. Raping kids, ANY kids is WRONG.

You honestly think sending these morons to jail is going to resolve anything? Don't fool yourself.

What's worse.. they will not get the same sentence that a man would have got for the same crime, assuming they get any jail time in the first place.

I am okay with using cruel and unusual punishment in situations like this as a deterrent. Some people deserve it, such as these evil bitches.

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