[Australia] Government-funded media says "8% of prisoners are women. That’s about 8% too many."

jacksleepshere · 2018-03-30T16:04:26+00:00

What a dire article that is. Justifying murder by speculating different motives between men and women. And failing to acknowledge the fact that women already don't get sentenced as often as men for the same crime. Just pure bullshit.

orcscorper · 2018-03-30T16:59:13+00:00

"fundamental differences between men and women" supposedly don't exist and your a bigot for thinking so when we're talking about working at Google, but when it comes to prison it's totally legit!

tenchineuro · 2018-03-30T16:10:24+00:00

Female incarceration numbers are at record highs and climbing. Dean and Head of School of Law at Deakin University, Dr Mirko Bagaric, thinks that the undeniable differences between men and women when it comes to committing crime should be reflected in a fundamentally different approach to the sentencing of women.

And so we see the start of the Australian Bench Book.

Isn’t it sexist to treat men and women differently?

There is a difference between treating male and female criminals equally and treating them equitably. Equally is when the same punishment is handed down. Equitably is when the punishment handed down impacts the two groups to the same extent. In short: equal means ‘exactly the same’ whereas equitable means ‘fair’. It is a misguided sense of equality to suggest that female offenders should be treated the same as males.

Yes, some women in the community commit acts that seriously damage others. And yes, they require harsh treatment. But this justifies Australia having one female jail – not a dozen.

So we have to treat women 'equitably' to treat them equally? WTF?

Finally, implementing changes to the sentencing system that will benefit women does not necessarily prejudice men. The opposite is the case. Reforms will prompt a reassessment of all sentencing principles for non-violent and non-sexual offenders – including men. This is the only tenable approach to dealing with Australia’s prison overcrowding crisis.

This is almost certainly a flat-out lie.

alclarkey · 2018-03-30T17:51:30+00:00

Translation: Blah, blah, special pleading, blah, blah, blah...

88stickup · 2018-03-30T21:20:23+00:00

Back in the 70's there used to be a "prison abolition" movement.

No one actually thought it would succeed; but the idea was that we could do better than punishment. Everyone recognized that there are indeed psychos; but people also recognized that most imprisoned men (especially those with drug convictions) were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Today, feminists demand prison abolishment -- BUT ONLY FOR WOMEN. This is obscene. This is the very definition of inequality.

Meyright · 2018-03-30T18:54:38+00:00

Don't forget Philip Davies speech about this topic in the UK in Westminster Hall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTJ2tlrPFlk&t=23m37s

This part of the speech is really good but it's really good in its entirety.

25russianbear25 · 2018-03-31T02:44:08+00:00

It would be funny to see if a female killed that authors loved one and still see them advocate this same bs that women are only angels.

rbrockway · 2018-03-31T01:19:36+00:00

Isn't Australia a prison?

maplemaximus · 2018-03-30T18:48:43+00:00

I don’t play this shit. Commit murder and your ass is in jail. Adult women get less time than male minors.

KingRobotPrince · 2018-03-30T20:54:39+00:00

I'm trying to will myself to believe that these people don't also hold the view that women can do anything men can do job wise. Otherwise they're essentially twisted individuals.

NathanRav · 2018-03-31T00:55:28+00:00

Just my opinion. If a woman is shitty enough to get a jail sentence society could do without them giving birth. God knows they are probably going to damage that child. It really really isn't that hard to stay out of prison, especially as a woman. If they are in jail they are more than likely fairly rotten women.

2018-03-31T01:07:26+00:00

Yeah cuz women that kill their children to spite their husband/boyfriend are totally not doing that for revenge. Naw, nothing to see here folks. Women are victimized angels that can do no wrong. Move along. /s

Title	[Australia] Government-funded media says "8% of prisoners are women. That’s about 8% too many."
Author	rbrockway
Upvotes	93
Comments	20
Date	March 30, 2018 3:32 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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