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Navy Seal Lesson...

RedPillDad · 2014-11-15T02:08:13+00:00

This guy Rorke Denver is the sort of mentor every young man needs, and he offers a lesson that translates directly to TRP: Constantly Improve Your Position....

RedPillDad

November 15, 2014

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Title	Navy Seal Lesson...
Author	RedPillDad
Upvotes	60
Comments	30
Date	November 15, 2014 2:08 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2mcdnm/navy_seal_lesson/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/navy-seal-lesson.24891 https://theredarchive.com/post/24891

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They don't get why we do what we do, and my experience with these who say those of us who enlist have something wrong with us has been they are afraid, too timid, and unwilling to step up. They would prefer to be the armchair quarterback than actually on the field. It brings to mind my favorite quote from Teddy Roosevelt.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

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[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Every think that politicians set the policy, and the people who elected them are the same ones batching about where and why we went to fight?

The motives of war are nearly irrelevant to us, why we go isn't up to us, what we do there can be. I didn't decide Iraq should invade Kuwait, and I saw first hand the atrocities committed there after we kicked them out.

Do I like war? Only those who haven't been like it. Do I think we should have invaded Afghanistan and Iraq? Fuck no, but it wasn't up to me. Congress and the president decide when and where. We join to keep the country safe, not to go fight for oil profits. We do something others who bitch about us going are afraid to do, that's why they bitch. They don't want to, and are afraid they might be sent too. They don't give a shit about us, the people involved on either side, only that they are afraid to go themselves..

Did I sign up to protect oil interests? No. I signed up to defend the Constitution and follow the lawful orders given to me. Was it lawful to invade? Not up to me to decide, Congress says go, I go. If asked to shoot unarmed civilians, that is an unlawful order.

Your bitch is with congress and the asshole in the Oval Office.

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[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is why they make shit up and justify it however they can. It's in hindsight that most now know Iraq was unjust. Some will call the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as unjust, but that is what it took to motivate the military leaders of Japan to surrender. The bombing of Dresden was a punitive measure because the Third Reich was all but finished and it had no military value. The men whonflew those missions were not privy to the political motivation behind the bombing until much later.

Similarly it was after we were committed that it came out Bush was lying to get us in Iraq, but at that point we had a duty and responsibility not to let Iraq devolve into a civil war as the different religious factions fought for control. It's still very fucked up, but it could have been far worse.

We remain and do our jobs not because some politicians say so. We stay and do our jobs because of the people serving with us, fighting along side, supporting, feeding, getting them the equipment they need, etc. The vast majority of military jobs are support and logistics, the combat jobs are smaller and require fewer people, but if the logistics people don't show up, the combat guys die. We stay because we have to for those serving with us.

It's not a civilian job you can simply walk away from, you make a commitment and you trust the citizens to elect honorable politicians. When shit heads are elected, the military pays the price.

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