[FR] Beginner. Got called a creep?

redpillschool · 2016-02-10T18:30:28+00:00

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curious97 · 2016-02-10T03:16:53+00:00

dude I mean no offense but wow this was wild, I definitely see she what she means by creepy

also you filmed your interactions? that shit would trip me up big time and I'm not a beginner. I feel like you would be better just talking without the added pressure of knowing you're being filmed for review later.

flaws: yes you do project a creep vibe (this is objective criticism, you change it). Unnatural approach, unnatural conversation. I can't see your body but I can only imagine it is as awkward as your conversation, work on that (plenty of guides on the internet). Lift if you don't already. I can't offer you more precise advice but there is much to be improved.

your text game is way too verbose, and she is not that into you from the way the texts read. remember 2/3 rule, text her about 2 times for each 3 times she texts you: in this case you were waaaay overtexting. Don't be afraid to let her wait or ignore a few of her texts. Don't apologize when jokes fall flat. Most of all stop using text to conversate: use it for logistics and short, short conversations.

my advice? next this one. it was a draft, a try, and you messed up but can learn a lot from it. courage bro keep working

WrensPens · 2016-02-10T05:02:25+00:00

Holy shit! You are creepy! Wtf! Why are you filming and recording shit!?

Tharberg · 2016-02-10T05:49:46+00:00

Fuck this post alone creeped me out. My spine needs corrective surgery.

Apexk9 · 2016-02-10T11:40:13+00:00

Yeah this is 100% creepy.

1 If you're gonna approach fake confidence if you don't have it. Go take acting classes then become a character when you pick up chicks. I did a lot of acting when I was younger it helps.

2 You never double text. and if you do it you dont text all pathetic.

"I approached 100 girls today. Ur the most interesting" Translation: You gave me your number so now im going to pester you.

Ding 3 mins later. DW everybody learns BLAH BLAH BLAh translation: I have nothing better to do please respond to me.

She is ignoring you in texts then when you go up to her you mention how your texts failed and you came up weak.

Hey yeah so ugh our texts suck so like I thought id corner you here even though i should have figured out you dont want anything to do with me.

COMMON MAN FUCKING THINK you cant be this dumb?

And in person DUDE really. The things you said. She knows you have never been with a women. She can smell the virgin on you its like an animal with fear.

I dont even know what you did at lunch

Number one dont say what you are going to do.

Like wtf Hey yeah so ill walk you to class {This girl you dont know and has given you many signals that she isnt interested}

Seriously dude your whole form of communication is terrible. I like girls, You look like a nerd who reads books, You have to go? I guess ill walk you to class,

but the most important rule for beginners.

DO NOT FUCKING GAME PEOPLE IN YOUR HIGHSCHOOL.

Practice with people you dont know not people who would see you every day if you're in a small town you're fucked. That shit is gonna follow you worse and worse bro.

Ugh common omg people

alphakari · 2016-02-10T04:07:26+00:00

There is a lot to dissect here, but more than anything else:

You talk too much. Both in text, and in person.

Like I could not imagine you saying more things than you do. You come off deeply terrified of either the pain she will feel if she fails to keep up her half of the conversation, or if she feels you're too awkward as a result of silence.

you need to be natural. not just her, but people need to feel like you're behaving the way you are, even when you're faking it till you make it.

but before you fake it till you make it, you need to get closer to actually BEING an alpha in ways you actually can. TRP isn't just about game, and I'm hearing NOTHING about gymming, killing it in the more career related aspects of your life, building interesting hobbies.

I strongly suspect you completely flop these conversations, both in text, and in your video because you are just tossing these caricatures of gaming advice, but you have to be able to do some small talk. Small talk is how people determine if you're autistic.

But small talk can also reveal you to be deeply boring and uninteresting. Become more interesting. Before you can get women you need to have a life interesting enough where it's clear to them you don't need to get with them.

go lift. enjoy your puberty gains, focus on your studies, learn to play pool, join a club, make some friends.

if someone bothers you about the creep thing, don't act like you give a shit. i suspect you're still too young to be aware how people see the things you say, so what i specifically mean is just behaving like you're amused by it. like a 5 year old told her friends you're scary.

no do not tell them she's like a 5 year old. don't reveal your mind to people unless you absolutely have to. it will only hurt you, and you are deeply disconnected from how others will respond to you.

Boxterr · 2016-02-10T06:52:39+00:00

It's creepy af to record interactions like that. Quit it. Yes, advice could totally have been given from describing the conversation and screenshots of text. Don't be so nervous, and stop texting her so much. If she doesn't respond, dont double text

mr_nate_ · 2016-02-10T03:57:58+00:00

I hope someone in the comments rips this thread apart and tears you a new asshole. We need to overhaul your texting game.

Howlgram · 2016-02-10T05:06:01+00:00

You come off as a try-hard and the other dudes already explained why, so i'll just give you props for approaching her so boldly because that's hard to do.

spurdosparade · 2016-02-10T03:13:35+00:00

You're overtrying it OP, you fucked up in the texting, you over invested and tried to have some kind of convo through it, you just use text for logistics. You should have tried to set a date after she confirmed it was her number. If she gave it to you, she was possible interested. But then, you overtexted and it was beta as fuck, after that things just went south: you don't talk with confidence and you confronted her in a passive aggressive way about the slow text. Also, you approached her so many times that probably she thinks you don't have sex for years. Combine all this mess and she probably sees you as fucking omega, that's why you're creep.

Anyway, next her and try other girl, this one you can't even orbit.

EDIT: and read the fucking sidebar

EDIT2: fixed typos

thepitman · 2016-02-10T05:54:30+00:00

You text too much and too fast, don't apologize for the joke (she didn't even get it...maybe she is special). You said it, what's done is done.

Also, don't bring up the instagram/social media stuff, I don't see how it adds value since she probably adds everyone for the follows.

I, personally, am not a fan of the "I guess" stuff. I judge anyone who keeps using it as insecure, like they are afraid to take their stance. Maybe I'm 'special' on this one (hehe).

Lastly, in my experience, everyone who gives you these shitty 2 word answers doesn't care about you and you should ignore, not tease her about slow/shit texting.

In conclusion, when you get her number, you will want to ask her out, logistics only, no convos over text. If she give 1-2 word answers to your texts and declines your date invitation (without rescheduling) you should ignore her. If they like you, they will text more than 2 words. Anyways, you can use this as a learning experience. Reflect on your mistakes.

PS: You might wanna be careful on how you're doing this. Gossip is rampant in schools.

medik13 · 2016-02-10T13:55:21+00:00

OP i hope you read this, it's really fundamental to game.

what your suffering from is "the illusion of action" where you believe you have to actively engage a chick to get her attention. it's a newbie mistake but you have to give her a chance to think about you, wonder what your about or what your doing. less is more brother.

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grostotons · 2016-02-10T13:24:50+00:00

I can tell you what i see here

First of all, the approach was good. I don't see any problem with that. Good on you for asking for her number because that's the most intimidating part usually. She gave you her number, which usually means shes interested and so i don't think you were wrong in texting her first and all that.

Here's the first problem. I know it's easy to text and less scary. But it's really not the best way to get to know someone. Texts should be used to set up a date to meet irl. Also, you texted waaay too much and you tried to sound like you were way smarter than you actually are (or at least thats how it comes off to me as a female.) I saw someone mention the 2/3 ratio and thats an excellent rule to go by. Never text more than 2 messages in a row, and never messages that sound so desperate (you talked to her once, she barely texted you back but you say shes the best converser youve ever met? Youre trying too hard.)

Second of all, which i think is by far the worst, is the conversations. Honestly i didn't even watch them. If you feel the need to record conversations of this poor girl without her knowing to get strangers online to analyze them, that's probably your biggest problem. Work on your self confidence so that you do not need to try so hard to please everyone. Be yourself, chill out and dont be so creepy.

For the record, if i ever found recordings that someone had taken of a conversation with me posting all over reddit, id be embarrassed, pissed off, and seriously wondering what the fuck is your problem. Thats very disrespectful.

Good luck in the future but seriously you just need to chill. I had a friend in high school who reminds me a lot of you (social awkwardness, anxiety, felt like he couldnt get girls) who found out that you just need to chill and be yourself and youll eventually meet someone for you (hes currently in a 1.5 year relationship with a really cute, very sweet girl).

Momo_dollar · 2016-02-10T15:32:16+00:00

I get why you recorded stuff for you own analysis etc but that's the creepiest thing in the whole thing. Anyways didn't listen to the video, but your texting the attempted neggs have no context, are out of place and come across as desperate. Also you've invested so much in just a few exchanges compared to what little she has said so when you do negg it does seem like a puppy looking for attention.

Try and let your negs be honest, something that's always worked with me without realising what a negg or push and pull is, and also let the girl set up the neg if possible or at least do something to demand it. E.g from before i had a clue what negging and pull /push were I once saw a girl I knew and wolfed whistled her, she came up to me and asked me if I liked her shoes, I looked down at them looked up and replied "no". Would she have looked around as she l walked off and asked me if she could come to mine later, if I had told a white lie and said woow their beautiful Cinderella, or if she hadnt had asked and I said BTW your shoes are shit!

kingmikeRM · 2016-02-10T03:50:52+00:00

You're forcing it wayyy to much. Also the way speak is kinda weird. Its like kinda fast with like a little bit of a speech impediment. Im gonna assume you're a sophmore/junior in HS so you got plenty of time to fix that.

Another thing, just because a girl follows you on instagram doesn't mean anything. Girls do that just so you'll follow them back and like their pictures.

Good job trying, but this is a lost cause.

throw_em_all · 2016-02-10T15:25:49+00:00

Your texts only reflect that you're creeping the shit out of her.

First screencap is not only pure validation but she's not even in the conversation.

Second screencap is even more validation, plus the 100 approaches is cringeworthy.

If your 1v1 interactions are half as bad as your text game, then yes, you didn't come off as a creep, you are a creep.

I don't feel like writing a wall of text, but seriously, stop looking for "IOIs", "hooks", etc, because seems that you lack calibration to do so. Just walk up to a girl, say "Hey, you're cute, had to stop to say hi", introduce yourself and have a conversation, once you can maintain a regular conversation, then think about game.

UntraceableRP · 2016-02-10T04:42:45+00:00

PM me if you want to go over how to improve your game.

Yogotron · 2016-02-10T04:29:45+00:00

Not seeing the faults in your game is mistake 1.

Trying to pickup (as a beginner) a girl you cant help but to like is mistake 2.

Like a dog that can smell fear people can sense neediness/lack of abundance. If I were you I would work on myself and forget women for a while. Work out, make friends, find a hobby that raises your SMV. Every mis-step holds a lesson to be learned, but you have to have the right state of mind to see it.

Title	[FR] Beginner. Got called a creep?
Author	-Xenon-
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Comments	45
Date	February 10, 2016 2:56 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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