Models by Mark Manson

Captain_w00t · 2020-10-05T06:24:11+00:00

Having read several books about this topic, I think Models is one of the best resources out there.

It’s mainly focused on inner game, that it also is the core for having a decent lifestyle and a good approach to women in general.

PUA advices/techniques are mostly bullshit. Sure, you’ll find a lot of people that thinks they work, and they do to some extent, but reality is that they create more damage than benefits on the medium-long run.

Acting a plot like an idiot or a misogynist perhaps will get you laid soon or later, but at a price that you won’t appreciate too: broken girls/women that will leave you “empty” inside, usually not material for a decent relationship.

PUA stuff only helps those self-proclaimed “coaches” that are selling you something, they shot videos of doubtful reality (can you even spot if they’re paying actress to make it look like it works?). Also, playing the numbers game blindingly is exhausting, makes you a poor creep, and without proper inner game you’ll be probably fucked anyway, that’s why this sub is full of rants about flaky girls/women, especially after you got their number.

If you look carefully at this sub, the only ones pretending that PUA shit works are either:

self-proclaimed PUA coaches trying to sell their services/material
kids (25yo or less) without too much experience that got excited for some rare successful laid (maybe after hundreds of hours in attempts).

Quality girls/women are simply disgusted by those PUA attempts, because they’re ridiculous and goofy. And when it works, it only means you’ve been good at manipulating them (for a short time span, before you get inevitably busted). Do you know anything more misogynistic/narcissistic than this?

PayDrum · 2020-10-04T21:02:50+00:00

Good for inner game and that's it. Teaches you how to be honest and legit, instead of playing mind games, being fake and pulling manipulative shit. However, I firmly believe that there is more to game than this. You still need outer game.

On a side note, it bashes the PUA community really hard which I found pretty off putting. Perhaps there's a lot of bs in the PUA materials, but there's also a great deal of beneficial advice.

Novatonavila · 2020-10-10T21:13:07+00:00

It is a very good book. It is worth the read. Its different from everything those pickup artists teach.

Illustrious-Taste196 · 2020-10-04T18:40:54+00:00

I hear it's about being honest with yourself when it comes to relationships. I'm also planning to read it and get a few lessons

JimBeamAndCoke2016 · 2021-01-27T09:43:20+00:00

It's an overrated book. It could be half the length it is, and Manson skims over the importance of looks, like many others who write these books.

fr-ed_X · 2020-10-05T00:12:45+00:00

It is good for the absolute basics if you don't really know a thing about women or want someone to dispel your limiting beliefs. But I think it's a bit outdated and weak, and leaves a lot on the table.

The advice he gives is to find women who are very openly into you and you don't really have to game them. Which means if a girl is 'neutral' then you just give up and move on. Sure... that kind of saves time, but high quality hot girls will very rarely just jump into bed with you instantly, especially if you're the type to be reading beginner books, so it's basically relegating you to only average/easy girls to make yourself feel like you have a better success rate.

On the other hand it's good to just be told you need to approach girls and keep it simple. It's going to rely on you having some underlying personality, as if you're awkward with no hobbies or conversational skills, just going up and saying 'hi, I thought you were cute' is not going to go well when you freeze on the next sentence. Mark Manson seems like a guy who had the personality to start with, so he might not really understand that some readers aren't going to have the conversational skills that underpin getting anywhere with women.

There are learnable parts of game which aren't sleazy or manipulative, try reading/watching stuff by Todd V or RSDMax 'The Natural' if that material is still around somewhere (maybe torrents).

It really depends on where you're at right now.

tibles20 · 2020-10-04T18:18:49+00:00

No I haven't read it and I don't want to change my lifestyle

CenaSmackDown · 2020-10-04T22:33:33+00:00

I've seen several reviews of this book and would like to pick it up. I've read Mystery Method- How to Get Beautiful Women into Bed. Mystery was one of the best PUAs about a decade or two ago.

Title	Models by Mark Manson
Author	StrongMulberry5
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Date	October 4, 2020 6:16 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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