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I totally get what you are saying but at the same time I don't know... I don't really view people as beta / provider. I think people are misguided. So I want to help them. I mentioner in another comment it's probably my fault and it's just self qualification. I don't know.
/r/seduction08/09/17 01:44 PM
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I think this is due to naturals. If you are really good in game you don't think too much, you act. Or rather feel what is right. This is kind of great, as it shows how girls just want you to be the best version of yourself.
/r/seduction08/09/17 01:15 PM
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I think your comment very eerily resembles of how I feel as well about doing pick up honestly, and I always praise Models being a great first book to read anyone trying to get into this area. It's just hard not to sound like a bad car salesman if you take my meaning, as upon opening the main page of /r/seduction you see: Hidden camera footage Ass touching 5 clickbaity rules about ... Maybe trying to convince people so hard is just self-validation on my part. Perhaps I am just trying too hard to …
/r/seduction08/09/17 01:05 PM
2

Great insight. What do you mean by premeditation? I sorta understand pre-planning an approach. Can you give an example?
/r/seduction08/09/17 12:54 PM
2

I'm in College at the moment and I find it extremely difficult. I got to know a lot of girls over the last year, and it feels like something prevents me from getting what I want. My buddies say I shouldn't overthink things, and that maybe I'm just unlucky with girls. Sometimes I feel that I would have a higher success rate without knowing game which is a crazy thought.
/r/seduction09/02/16 02:04 AM
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I'm going to give you my opinion and also take the opportunity to say, that even if you have the perfect text, it's not guaranteed that you will get with any girl. I'm saying this because you had bad responses in the past, you might be frustrated by the lack of results. In any case, my advice to you is not to worry about it too much. A simple text such as "Hey Tammy, it was nice talking to you :)) [insert inside joke such as Birdperson]. Let's meet up [place] and [time], are you in?" So the poin…
/r/seduction06/02/16 09:31 AM
2

Does anyone know if his new book about Relationship is worth getting? There are very few reviews but I'm pretty sure it's not as good as let's say "The way of the superior man"?
/r/seduction04/02/16 09:03 PM
1

Yeah but dude you realize that it's the reverse for left-handed people?
/r/seduction03/02/16 10:48 PM
5

This reminds me of Mark Manson's teachings. Anyways I think the biggest counter-argument to that is "what if he just wants to fuck her?"
/r/seduction01/02/16 10:28 PM
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All I have to say that your style is f@ckin viscious man, and I love it!
/r/seduction27/01/16 03:37 PM
5

I am more afraid of Ravens myself. Though crows can get crazy too.
/r/seduction22/01/16 09:01 PM
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Depends where you do it. If you do it on campus where you know a lot of people it comes across as tryhard. Night clubs are normal, day-game is like the inbetween.
/r/seduction21/01/16 01:32 AM
1

I normally would just go to a coffee place, take a stroll in a park, and have some lunch. I haven't done dating in a while though. Experiment what works for You.
/r/seduction20/01/16 11:29 AM
1

Hello Bears85, apologies for the late reply. If you want get a better result than me, just learn from my mistakes. But instead of giving a man a fish, I am on the opinion of teaching him how to fish. Ultimately no matter how hard you try or how cool you are, there will be girls who will just leave you. I'd say communicate your feelings, visit her, make contact. If all else fails (like it did in my case), JUST SAY "Okay." Don't try to fix things, don't let your SELF-VALUE decrease. What I'm tryin…
/r/seduction20/01/16 11:25 AM
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I like to think of liquor as steroids in the gym. When you have it, it helps, but it would be so much better if you learnt how to lift without steroids.
/r/seduction16/01/16 09:58 AM
2

Basically there was a video posted by this semi-famous pick up guy here a week ago Literally about the same topic. I spent like half an hour trying to find it with no avail. In the video he said when he explained it honestly and properly to his "girlfriends" that he is in a part of his life where he doesn't feel like being in a monogamous relationship they all were fine with it (except maybe one). But I don't want to write something silly, if someone could find the video it would be mint.
/r/seduction13/01/16 07:31 PM
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I can't tell you what you want to / have to do. I can only tell you my experience. And in my case whenever I get to an emotional low, I get more motivation to do great things. You said you don't believe you are sad. Then why this post? Do what you must.
/r/seduction06/01/16 02:54 AM
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I don't know in what book I've read this was in, but another one is : "I am the type of guy I want to hang out with, right FUCKING now!"
/r/seduction05/01/16 01:37 AM
3

Man, I could say don't fret about it, it will pass; or do this and that to take your mind off of the pain. But I won't. Partially because it has been said before. But mainly because this pain that you are feeling, this agony that is eating you alive, is a catalyst to your destiny. Don't numb the pain, feel it with all your guts and let it push you! Are you fed up with how your life is? If you truly were fed up, you wouldn't be here, reading this comment. Maybe you like being in pain and getting …
/r/seduction05/01/16 01:28 AM
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I used to have low confidence and what helped is getting to know people. Especially when you can create meaningful relationships. I don't just mean with girls but rather strong bonds with your friends. I recently watched a video on what is true happiness, and research shows that meaningful relationships are much more instrumental in one's fulfillment than money and objects. This sounds cheesy I know. But for a less theoretical, more practical aspect: find like-minded people. For that you need to…
/r/seduction25/12/15 03:53 PM
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I can't really answer your question, however I thought I'd give you this insight. If you want to be loved, some people will also hate whatever you're into. Great leaders are always controversial. Sometimes people will dislike you because you like the color blue. You get the idea. You might as well do what you want to do and be controversial; that way you know you've chosen the right path.
/r/seduction22/12/15 01:28 AM
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This made me realize one thing. You know how our lives are, and this sounds depressing but, meaningless? That means you can do whatever the fuck you want in life. <<Just go out>> and experience it. The money, failures won't mean anything on your death bed. The experiences you had will.
/r/seduction16/12/15 09:07 PM
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I remember almost Exactly a year ago I was scared af to join kickboxing class. What helped me? Breakup. I'm not sure of most people are like this, but personally when I'm at my lowest, I always have the motivation to reach a new peak.
/r/seduction16/12/15 07:57 PM
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Basically what TornadoPuppies and OP said. This also reminds me of RSDJulien's way for asking logistics. You don't just go up to a girl and ask her "Where do you live? Who are you here with? Do you have room mates?" Personalize the questions and try not to make it an interrogation.
/r/seduction15/12/15 11:57 PM
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Good comment, but please use commas.
/r/seduction10/12/15 05:03 PM
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I can give you the main differences. I recommend reading "Conquer your campus" if you are interested in college/campus approach. Going up to random people (not just women) is quite creepy on campus. You see it's already pretty easy meeting people through various activities like clubs, classes and sport. In the real world, approaching girls on the street or on clubs is totally fine and acceptable. Whilst you have to be a leader, what wins most people over is very high energy and a fun vibe. You g…
/r/seduction04/12/15 05:38 PM
2

Regarding grooming, different types of haircuts look good for different face types. On the phone, here's a link to check what your face type is. After that it's easier to Google. http://thebeautydepartment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/TBDfaceshapes1.jpg
/r/seduction04/12/15 05:28 PM
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Just game as in pickup in general.
/r/seduction04/12/15 05:20 PM
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Campus game is completely different from normal game. If you cold approach girls it comes across as needy. Try building social circles and approach there. Knowing a common friend is a very strong point. Organize gatherings, and just generally bring value to the interactions.
/r/seduction04/12/15 05:14 PM
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I am a "gamer" nature as well. However yesterday I decided to delete all of my local files, I mean including saves and data. Bye bye Witcher 3! They are really fun games are, however they also make me depressed because on another level I'm unhappy since they stop me from reaching my true potential. If you haven't read it already I (and 90% of this sub) warmly recommend you the book "Models" by Mark Manson. Manson also has a blog where he writes self-dev stuff. In one of his articles about "7 poi…
/r/seduction01/12/15 09:26 AM
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I saw you recommend some nice books. Maybe you could recommend more in your next post?
/r/seduction01/12/15 08:07 AM
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I don't know what phone you are using, but you can get these external portable chargers (Anker PowerCore) on Amazon. It was like £10 2 days ago on Black Friday
/r/seduction29/11/15 11:39 AM
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You are right. My comment might be misleading in terms of the book. It is vital for anyone practising game.
/r/seduction23/11/15 03:55 PM
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The guy in the article was not an underdog. He was 25 and good looking. Probably knew a few things about pickup before he transferred. Furthermore the whole article/website looks scammy in my opinion.
/r/seduction23/11/15 03:54 PM
1

When you approach girls in your friend circle. (instead of complete strangers)
/r/seduction23/11/15 03:51 PM
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I've read the other comments about reading Pickup material such as "Models" by Mark Manson and meeting new people / doing daygame, however I have to disagree with them. I was / am in the same shoes as you OP, and I have to say game works differently in College or University. You can't really blame the others for posting general pickup advice though, but again, you can't really 'game' on campus. I'd recommend reading "Conquer your campus". You can find some interesting books in the book such as: …
/r/seduction23/11/15 03:09 AM
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This is a very interesting comment, thanks for the insight. I do agree with the statement of being narcissistic is outright better than being a beta. I'm not amazing in game myself but when I think back the times of being outright rude to people for my own amusement, it did work. Also you have sources such as RSD who tell you to be very very confident and outcome independent and a baller, and it becomes really easy to go too far.
/r/seduction11/11/15 09:06 PM
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This is gonna sound really anti-social and retarded, but do you keep looking at a person as they walk by you even if they don't look you in the eye?
/r/seduction01/11/15 12:55 PM
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Could someone explain to me the bit about "Ask yourself if you're the one calling all the time? Am I okay with this"? Does it mean dropping your contacts and friends who never call/message you even if you do? I'm not sure if I'm alone in this, but 99% of my acquaintances very rarely reach out to me. I'm normally the organizer.
/r/seduction15/07/15 01:46 PM
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Sorry man couldn't find it. Might be in this very long video: http://youtu.be/0UCnCkR-pk4
/r/seduction01/07/15 09:35 AM
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RSDTyler was talking about this not long ago. He said that often times we want our new relationships to be as least as good from the beginning as our last one was. But this is often not possible as it takes time to build chemistry and get to know the other person.
/r/seduction29/06/15 09:35 AM
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My experience is people won't even read your bio until you get matched or get interested in you.
/r/seduction12/06/15 10:32 AM
1

Is that a book?
/r/seduction21/05/15 10:17 PM
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I don't think that's what he meant.
/r/seduction19/05/15 07:01 PM
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I see, so you would recommend it.
/r/seduction14/05/15 09:04 PM
2

And remember not to use cocky funny lines unless you have internalized building tension with push and releasing it with pull. Otherwise it sounds mean-spirited. Release is what's magic. Could you elaborate? I'm new to this :)
/r/seduction10/05/15 09:14 PM
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If you think about it from their perspective, if for instance a rough looking dude went my way I wouldn't wanna look at them to not to get into trouble. I think you just need to be more approachable. As you said smiling helps.
/r/seduction10/05/15 08:30 PM
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Some nice comments, I would also like to add that if you don't get invited to parties, be the organizer. Set something up and invite people yourself. You'd be surprised how little people care to do these sort of things.
/r/seduction10/05/15 02:57 PM
2

I'm not sure if I'm talking bullshit here, but I think people will 'sense' if you are looking at them and look back at you?
/r/seduction10/05/15 02:54 PM
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I went through a really rough breakup which happened back in December. Ever since I've been in a self-improvement journey of some sort. The way I feel about it, is you need to transform yourself into a different person. A much better version of yourself. Experience is the catalyst for that. Keep going out, try new things (I've been doing martial arts), and I promise the pain will ease. It won't even disappear, you'll literally grow stronger so you won't feel it as much, which is awesome. EDIT: I…
/r/seduction07/05/15 09:24 PM
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I feel like there are 2 types of girls in the clubs and events I attend. The nice girls and the 'club bitches'. If I'm not aggressive enough with the club bitches wouldn't they get bored of the interaction?
/r/seduction01/05/15 09:09 PM
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This is also a major concern for me as well. Not that I have a reputation (yet), but the problem I see is this: if you were successful with girls and got a reputation, all power to ya. If you weren't you'll get chastised. But of course I could be wrong and I hope I am.
/r/seduction01/05/15 07:43 PM
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Haha thanks, but it's easier with people on campus, foreigners are nice 😊 Basically this group consisted of 2 couples and this girl. So getting with her friend would have resulted in a punchline (by her bf)
/r/seduction01/05/15 03:04 PM
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This is very practical, I love you man. I was thinking of just approaching on the dancefloor, but you are right, most PUAs I've seen just stand in choke points and approach.
/r/seduction01/05/15 11:05 AM
1

Hmm I think I just need to talk less and be more patient. I'm so worried about them leaving, I know I shouldn't be though.
/r/seduction30/04/15 02:19 PM
1

I see, may I ask what your general opener is in a really loud environment?
/r/seduction30/04/15 10:56 AM
1

Yeah but people never look you in the eye. They just dance around, plus as I mentioned you can't see anything from the lights coming from all directions. It's blinding. Can't expect people to make eye contact. EDIT: Tyler has this video about pick up in chaotic environments such as really loud night clubs, but he just says "have more fun than anyone else, as fun is the currency, and it will kinda happen."
/r/seduction29/04/15 11:48 PM
1

My mentality and this is what I tell girls as well is: I'm not looking for anything serious atm, but if I found the right girl I would be a fool not to get into a relationship. I just don't understand how it's so hard to find sex on campus without committing yourself to an almost marriage.
/r/seduction25/04/15 09:31 PM
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My true intentions is just literally I want to have sex. And even though I like to consider myself as a bold and very honest guy, saying that straight out would just undermine my interaction. But you might have different experiences idk.
/r/seduction25/04/15 06:43 PM
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Thanks, I did the Energy Training and I'll try to practice meditation more in the future. Whilst writing this I was thinking. Even if I'm unable to create a deep connection initially, if I get the number and get the girl out for a coffee I can create that connection then I think. So I shouldn't reveal my true intentions until I'm there in person and have created a mutual attraction?
/r/seduction24/04/15 02:32 PM
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I never understood properly how I'm supposed to do a quick approach and convey that I'm attracted to the girl to not establish a friendly sort of vibe, but more of a man-to-woman kind of thing. When it comes to online game and texting, I can be witty and convey value and attraction properly, but that isn't a quick interaction. It's almost like I just had revelation. Don't compliment until you built mutual attraction. I know I'm a nooby, sorry.
/r/seduction24/04/15 02:13 PM
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I see, so I'm on the right track at the moment. I do both working out and meditation. Though I suck at meditation as you can imagine. Since you've been there and done it Catch11, could you tell me your methods of creating a special connection? You know how on campus everybody asks the same questions? "What course/year/nationality..." I suppose that is NOT the way of making the convo interesting and creating a connection.
/r/seduction24/04/15 02:00 PM
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Meet up with her. You don't game over text.
/r/seduction23/04/15 12:58 AM
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"You are not boring, you are just comparing yourself to other's definitions." Talk about your life like it's really interesting. But more importantly, you have to kinda 'open the taps' on your mouth and not filter what you say. What I mean by this is, when you talk to hot girls you don't say everything that comes to your mind, because you are afraid of them judging you. So just open up the taps, don't filter what you say, and you'll never run out of things to say.
/r/seduction18/04/15 06:29 PM
1

This is a good saying. Imma write that down
/r/seduction17/04/15 11:01 AM
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3 second rule. I know your comment sounds nice and cool, but personally if I wait I'll just start making excuses the more I wait.
/r/seduction16/04/15 09:32 PM
1

It's hard to escalate things on Tinder in my opinion. BUT, you can use it as a minor cure against oneitis.
/r/seduction16/04/15 12:05 AM
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If you think you're boring it's only because you're comparing yourself to others' definition of what's exciting. I will write that down into my pickup notebook.
/r/seduction16/04/15 12:01 AM
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I normally answer my phone as soon as possible because quite simply I would forget to message people back. I don't know if it really does, but it can come across as needy so I do the same thing. I know that Mark Manson advises against it though.
/r/seduction15/04/15 11:56 PM
1

I've started doing game midway through first year (this year). Just go out a lot, meet new people and do activities. The more people you know the better opportunities.
/r/seduction11/04/15 03:13 AM
1

I'm not saying down voting content that is literally the same is necessarily 'illegal', it's just not right. I feel bad for those guys, I've been in their shoes. That's why I try to help them but also explain why Seduction isn't really about that.
/r/seduction28/03/15 03:25 PM
2

Models by far the best option out there, though I've read "No more Mr. Nice guy" by Robert Glover and this is what I can say about it: Being a nice guy is actually a huge problem with guys nowadays. The book has a lot of examples, will show a lot of insight of why your past relationships might have ended and is generally better if you're currently in a relationship, but is also really useful for self-improvement in game. Start with Models though.
/r/seduction28/03/15 12:09 AM
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I don't mean to be crude, but a lot of people come here asking for the exact same advice. "There's this one girl I really like..." You have to understand that seduction is much better at teaching how to attract women in general. We can't give you an advice that will definitely work with this one girl. However, that doesn't mean you should do nothing. I know it's petrifying but you have to tell your feelings <soon>. Just tell her you find her attractive when it's not awkward for any of you. If yo…
/r/seduction28/03/15 12:01 AM
2

The way I've heard it is: "Confidence is not 'she will like me', it's 'I will be fine whether she likes me or not'".
/r/seduction26/03/15 04:32 PM
1

Well, I've only been in the game for a couple of months so take everything I say with a pinch of salt, but it's not just about picking up girls. To pick up girls you need to be funny, well-dressed, have a good enough job etc. There is a lot to it. Like a really good athlete won't just have to train, they might have to meditate daily to endure the pain, have enough knowledge about nutrition and other things. It might seem like a hobby, but it's more like a lifestyle. If you can pick up healthy gi…
/r/seduction25/03/15 11:41 PM
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I used to drink a lot when I went to clubs, and all I can say it doesn't really help that much with your skills, it lowers your approach-anxiety a bit, but what's more important is that eventually you WILL have to face your fears. There will be a time when you try to do it without alcohol and it will be awkward. But that's fine.
/r/seduction25/03/15 09:56 PM
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You will not wake up one day to your new completely different life. You might wake up one day with enough motivation to start things up though. If you were content with your life by just working and watching porn you wouldn't have written this post. If that isn't enough motivation I don't know what is. The thing is, until something really big happens in your life you won't get a surge of motivation. And that life-changing event is normally a really bad thing, so I'm not sure if I would want to w…
/r/seduction25/03/15 09:52 PM
1

Did you mean the more I approach the more of this blight will fade away?
/r/seduction25/03/15 09:43 PM
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Video summed up: There is a right amount of awkwardness. A small amount is always good, since when someone shows akwardness and remorse others perceive him as more trustworthy, their actions as more forgiveable. Such individuals tend to be more social. Even if you don't feel the awkwardness, people around you still can. Which is called vicarous embarassment. Feeling of awkwardness is actually really similar to physical pain. At least in the brain they happen in the cortexes connected to physical…
/r/seduction20/03/15 08:35 PM
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You ask her "Do you have a boyfriend" If she says yes you can either choose to ignore it by saying "U cud use 2 bfs ayy" or move on. If you are worried about girls lying about this, ask yourself the question: why would you want to be with a girl who lies about that to basically say no.
/r/seduction18/03/15 12:34 AM
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Thanks for the reply. I might join some extra martial arts classes next to kickboxing so I shouldn't really fear for my safety in the future.
/r/seduction09/03/15 02:49 PM
2

Nice post, I enjoyed it. Let me ask you a question: I'm kind if in the zone where you were, breaking up and trying out new things. Been doing it for 3 months basically, got to know a lot of people but there's noone I could go out with. No wingman or friend that would want to approach with me. How important do you think was your friend you went out with? Would you have gone on your own? I also have this story for anybody willing to read it. Yesterday I got really discouraged about going out at al…
/r/seduction08/03/15 11:57 PM
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In a way I don't feel like I'm ever going to 'find myself', to feel home in my body. There's always something to improve on. And I know people say just be content with what you have and girls will come, but it's hard to appreciate your life without much of a success. It's illogical to think even.
/r/seduction24/02/15 12:28 AM
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Thanks for the comment AlphaMan. Truth is I went out 4 times this week (which is a new record for me) and I've been trying really hard not to take advantage of liquid courage, but the unfortunate reality is that I am literally powerless otherwise. I don't even enjoy the setting without alcohol. I'm trying to become the best version of myself (as anyone here), I just feel like the best version would not tolerate disrespect the funny jokey way most RSD PUA guys teach. This might just be incongruen…
/r/seduction23/02/15 12:55 AM
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I will totally do that every time from now. Such a concise way to channel my anger and funniness. Stolen.
/r/seduction22/02/15 08:44 PM
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Sorry, for the silly question. What do you mean by "next 'em"? And that drink coding is hilarious
/r/seduction22/02/15 08:16 PM
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It totally answered my question. So basically in social meeting / everyday life kinda situations I should go about it much slower. Being friendly and a little bit flirtatious so she knows I have balls. And nice tip there with the insta-friend line. I have to try that one day.
/r/seduction22/02/15 08:06 PM
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I see Dorman; I think I made a post about it before, but it's hard to react to a shit test when there's noone there to react to. Sometimes girls just turn around / push me away. Should I just keep laughing about it and leave them there for good? Or Should I walk around their bitch-shield and pretend nothing happened?
/r/seduction22/02/15 08:03 PM
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Yes you are right about the shit test, I did feel like it was one though it was really weird. It wasn't the girl whom I approached but her friend who shit tested me. I never knew how to deal with that sort of stuff, when their friends gather into a herd and block you / push you away. Just boils my blood, but I just laughed about it.The ironic thing is, I genuinely liked the girl's dress, it was this reflective material but whatever. The reason I feel I'm being disrespected is well 1) the guy who…
/r/seduction22/02/15 07:40 PM
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I might just be me, but it feels wrong to ask girls out immediately in social clubs like that. For instance I joined meditation and if I went up to a girl I like and asked for her number, it would just be super awkward. It's a bit different doing it on complete strangers on the street, but it would be super awkward in a book club afterwards. Is that just another bullshit excuse I'm telling myself, or does it have any base do you reckon?
/r/seduction22/02/15 06:28 PM
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I wasn't going to stop going, but your comment reinforces my whole plan for the process. Keep going out as much as possible and improve. Thanks for the comment.
/r/seduction22/02/15 06:25 PM
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There might be a bit of a confusion in here. I didn't mean opening her, I mean making friends in a club when you go there alone. I wouldn't really start with a complement when opening girls in night clubs, they heard it enough.
/r/seduction07/02/15 05:30 PM
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I just read it for the 1st time - initially I'm trying to improve on my honest lifestyle and then worry about everything else in the book. That doesn't mean that I'm not approaching, it's just a lot to take in altogether at first.
/r/seduction31/01/15 06:54 PM
1

I see, but what do you say to her when you walk up? What is the reason for you to approach her? Can I still say "I know this is weird but I thought you were cute and wanted meet you" Cause otherwise she doesn't know why you did it, right?
/r/seduction30/01/15 10:45 AM
1

I'm new to game so correct me if I'm wrong - people say you shouldn't compliment a girl you just approached. Why? Because then you get rejected. It seems like these people are trying really hard not to get rejected. But isn't rejection good? Shows you are both incompatible and saves you time. I thought if you said to a girl "I'm 2Siders, I just wanted to say you are cute and wanna hangout etc. etc." it shows confidence. Again, if I'm talking nonsense please bite my head off so I can improve :-)
/r/seduction30/01/15 12:39 AM
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I'm not sure if you mean daygame, but RSDMax has a lot of daygame approaches scattered throughout his videos.
/r/seduction29/01/15 08:21 PM
1

Thank you for the guidance! I'm still trying to approach, however the main problem I identified is the fact I don't even know myself. I don't know what exactly would make me happy, what sort of person I want to become. A rockstar? An intellectual type? I need to find myself to work on mu inner game.
/r/seduction28/01/15 01:35 PM
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It's irrational and if it stops your pecker to be functional, buy Kamagra which is a cheaper form of Viagra for your first couple of encounters until you have no more fear.
/r/seduction27/01/15 01:40 PM
2

I'm new to game so take everything I say with a pinch of salt... The more girls you approach the more of an "abundance mentality" you have. I use Tinder for instance NOT to get matches, but whenever I feel like I'm falling for a girl I open it up, flick through the profiles and get that mentality back.
/r/seduction27/01/15 01:39 PM
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Thank you all for the replies! Expanding my social circle sounds like a vid path to tread (to do warm approach first) however I find that people in general are flaky. I also don't believe in having an opinion on something you haven't done before so I'll do one cold approach and see what happens. Worst case is I need to work on my inner game (inc. outcome independency and happy life), but I'll just fuckin man up and do it no matter how long it takes.
/r/seduction27/01/15 10:41 AM
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Just a side question: When I walk into the club everybody seems to be having fun and seems to know everybody else. Does everybody have it this easy?
/r/seduction26/01/15 11:06 PM
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I only watched a couple of his videos. So do you go up to a girl and say "Hi this is really random, but I'm a bit shy...etc." like he does?
/r/seduction22/01/15 07:25 PM
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This is what I'm really stuck on. I'm very new to game and the buddies that I usually go out clubbing with are busy all the time. Of course I'm trying to make new friends but it's like finding the perfect girl. Like-minded people are so hard to come by. Without people I have no social status though.
/r/seduction21/01/15 05:53 PM
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The main character is a nice guy, the ex-boyfriend is someone with False Confidence. Don't be either.
/r/seduction19/01/15 04:34 PM
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Interesting story, thank you for the insight!
/r/seduction16/01/15 02:34 AM
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Thank you for linking the article!
/r/seduction15/01/15 10:23 PM
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Did you mean if she says it in a friendly/giggling manner you can probably go for it?
/r/seduction15/01/15 08:43 PM
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This is great, thank you for sharing! It's like reverse psychology because they would except you to shit-talk about their boyfriends. I actually recall some RSD guy saying to a girl "Yeah, you bf must treat you really well and you love him so much". It might have been Tyler on one of the infield footage of his.
/r/seduction15/01/15 08:42 PM
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I feel like when they say "I have a boyfriend" it's like when they say something among the lines of "I need to go etc." I think if that happens to me next time, what I will do is treat it as a shit test and still pursue them, and after that if they STILL show signs of being unresponsive, just stop. I just don't want to be the nice guy who gets scared of the rustling of the leaves.
/r/seduction15/01/15 01:46 PM
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I'm currently practicing both, but I'm not looking for a relationship. Nonetheless Models is great, because it doesn't matter what you are looking for, strong inner game is vital. And that is something that the book explains really well I think. Being vulnerable and outcome independent. PUA and RSD stuff is great also, because through the videos you can gain a sliver of experience of how an interaction goes, what to say etc.
/r/seduction15/01/15 12:18 PM
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I am a noobie so correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like Manson's techniques are about making strong relationships not about casual sex. For instance he talks about how "If you were a University professor you wouldn't want to hang around with a high-school cocaine addict just because she has a nice ass." I think you would if you only wanted to fuck?
/r/seduction15/01/15 11:35 AM
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I'm reading the book "Models" and correct me if I'm wrong, but the self improvement part is for CONSISTENT seduction. Being a jerk and being a nice guy works on certain girls as a short term method. But by being confident and sorting your life out, you will attract all and it's only up to you who you will want to escalate with. This doesn't mean you won't get rejected, it means if you do you won't throw a tantrum and just get on with your life.
/r/seduction14/01/15 02:04 PM
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Would it solve the problem if they've written something in the title that said they're beginners? When I post a comment I usually say something like "i'm a noobie" so people don't get the wrong idea.
/r/seduction14/01/15 01:57 PM
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I don't know if it's just me, but what I got out of OP's post, is like that article I read the other day. Motivation comes in many shapes or forms and you should link motivation not to objects but to feelings. OP uses his anger to motivate himself.
/r/seduction14/01/15 12:53 PM
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So basically he says that motivation is a state, not on object like most people treat it. Instead of tying your motivation to an image, or music, tie to an emotional state. The writer in particular used his anger to motivate himself.
/r/seduction12/01/15 11:33 PM
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But if for instance you lower your expectations before going out FROM "I will get laid" TO "I will meet new people", apparently this is a good method. You will very rarely get disappointed and if you are just trying to have fun, girls will follow. I don't know if this was in your link or something else I read/listened to yesterday.
/r/seduction12/01/15 09:36 PM
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I will try this even though I'm really new. I don't know what I'm gonna do on Sundays but I'll figure something out.
/r/seduction12/01/15 09:16 PM
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I'm still waiting for a hottie to walk past when I'm throwing the medicine ball on the situp pad. "Sorry, maybe my sub-conscious is trying to hit on you."
/r/seduction12/01/15 09:10 PM
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Did you mean the lower the expectations?
/r/seduction12/01/15 03:43 PM
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I just don't always agree with the concept, but it might be because I view it wrongly. I always think outcome independence is about not caring at all about the result, but that's much different from not worrying about the result. When you don't care you don't enjoy the good results or bad ones. When you don't worry you DO enjoy the good results but don't let the bad ones bring you down.
/r/seduction11/01/15 11:01 PM
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I never knew how to not be outcome independent. Cause anyone can say a fancy word but what's important is the technique behind it. Reading the article below the podcast gave me a really good idea. Just go out with the mindset of meeting new people and not try to get laid. This is perfect for me as I'm trying to get more friends and acquaintances at my University. As I said I just never really knew how to not be outcome independent without having much of a success as a noobie.
/r/seduction11/01/15 10:00 PM
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tl;dr: Work on your inner game first, then on your game.
/r/seduction11/01/15 06:54 PM
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This doesn't work in a place with loud music I don't think. The alpha-female would automatically assume you are there to pick her up, and wouldn't even try to hear what you said.
/r/seduction11/01/15 03:28 PM
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Same as getting ready for an exam. Re-read it multiple times a day and it will just get stuck with you. Re-write it multiple times on your notebook so you have a visual memory of the words. I don't know how to apply the concepts in high pressure situations though.
/r/seduction10/01/15 09:43 PM
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If I spoke like Christopher Walken, I wouldn't even approach anybody. I'd just stand in the middle of the club and start talking; eventually everybody would just high five me and offer me blow jobs
/r/seduction10/01/15 09:35 PM
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Well, I'm normal height, definitely not a tall dude. I know girls like tall guys, but the same thing could be said about having an attractive face or abs. It's a bit pointless to worry about height when you can't change it.
/r/seduction10/01/15 09:32 PM
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I weigh about 170, even though I wasn't wearing a proper shirt, I had a t-shirt on and jeans, trainers etc. No punk hair, completely normal. That's why I just think that my face is ugly?? But then again the logistics were quite bad. 90% of the time there are a multiple of girls, usually dancing with their friends. I know I'm supposed to turn them facing away from their friends but as I said they literally blow me off right away. If it's not an appearance problem, might it be inner game?
/r/seduction10/01/15 11:17 AM
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Do you find clubs a bad place to pickup because of the loud music or because of dancing? Cause most places I go to still have pretty loud music, live Djs etc. It just feels so demoralizing to get blown off right away. Like I know I would fuck the set up at some point being a hardcore noobie, but that sudden death scenario is just brutal.
/r/seduction10/01/15 03:12 AM
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I have read about making eye contact and dancing nearby etc. but they wouldn't even notice me at all. I just don't want to wait for an eye contact, cause then I wouldn't ever initiate. I completely agree physical contact right off the bat sucks.
/r/seduction10/01/15 03:01 AM
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Thanks for the post!
/r/seduction13/12/14 11:49 AM
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Really interesting story. I hope people won't downvote you because they don't like the "cut the old cords" part.
/r/seduction09/11/14 12:31 AM
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Don't know if it's really off-topic, I tried looking for the proper response to the shit test "Do you love me" and I couldn't find anything.
/r/seduction07/05/14 03:17 PM
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I found this thread 2-3 weeks ago. Before: Full Approach Anxiety with women; No first kiss; No relationship; Socially awkward; Really bad crush problem; After: Starting to get my confidence and liking myself; Talked to a couple of girls on night out; Had my first kiss last night; I'm gonna start dating her and I don't care at all if it goes anywhere or not. If I could do it once, I can do it a million times.
/r/seduction05/05/14 05:46 PM
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I found out about game about 2 weeks ago and I came to the same conclusion; I have to find myself, I have to figure out what sort of person I am, what I like, what are my morals. I was thinking about doing deep meditation, but I always get carried away. Your post lit my way and confirmed that I'm on the right path.
/r/seduction30/04/14 05:43 PM
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That's a pretty well written and well laid out guide.
/r/seduction21/04/14 07:26 PM
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