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That won't get me in bed with them though...
/r/seduction20/10/15 10:40 AM
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I definitely am vulnerable and share myself after the sex, however, the girls are not like this. Any idea why this could be? Maybe because it differs with the view they had of me while I was seducing them, thus resulting in incongruence and making me appear as a liar / player?
/r/seduction19/10/15 08:16 PM
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What's different between the approach to a relationship and the approach to a fling? I'd say my current approach targets FWBs but it's not perfect; hence the ONS. I currently aim for confidentiality, rapid escalation and quick next's.
/r/seduction19/10/15 08:14 PM
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I've actually done this, however I kept my cocky / funny attitude while also sharing more about me with her. The problem is, most of the time, that they do not want to share more about themselves with me. Any ideas why this might be? What am I doing wrong?
/r/seduction19/10/15 08:11 PM
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About 50% through social circle which I've built up and 50% cold approaches at clubs/parties.
/r/seduction19/10/15 01:42 PM
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I want to add that the thing that helped me the most in getting F-Closes is one thing and one thing only: Screening. There's only so many hours when you're at a party and there's only so many hours before most women go home, you need to approach those who are more likely to respond the way you want them to. Plus you'll look like a clown if you hop from set to set. It saves you from wasting time with girls you won't get you anywhere and gives you more time with the girls you want to talk to. This…
/r/seduction19/10/15 11:18 AM
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See, that's why you shouldn't react to an insult like a shit test. Agreeing & ampliyfing to an insult will NOT end well... The other parts: I didn't say how ("taking it seriously") you should react, I only said that you shouldn't treat it like a shit test!
/r/seduction24/08/13 03:45 AM
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No, I don't think you can/should react to a straight up insult like a shit test. It's a thin line but you can feel if it's a shit test or not.
/r/seduction24/08/13 01:54 AM
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Don't. Why are you wasting time with girls that insult you when there is probably another girl 2 feet away that might be respectful? Do. Because only through dealing with such situations you will learn how to overcome them. Getting insulted straight away does (very rarely) happen and it WILL throw you off - hell, it can ruin your entire night - unless you faced and dealt with such things successfully in the past, so you can manage these bitches/douchebags.
/r/seduction24/08/13 01:47 AM
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She's a 8/10 on looks & status at the same time. She knows she can set high standards because of her looks, she knows she can command guys around (in fact I've met plenty of her orbiters) because of her looks, she's confident because of her looks ... I always assume good looking women also have a high status because that status follows naturally. In the case of my HB8 both, status / power & looks, apply.
/r/seduction13/08/13 01:32 AM
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If a girl thinks you're too touchy, you've probably lost her... I'm a promoter of "make the ho say no". However... Need to reset, make an effort to avoid her for a while. is exactly what I did. There must be better solutions for this problem though.
/r/seduction12/08/13 10:53 PM
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Walk away, smile, turn around and say "call me!" while doing the "telephone hand movement" near your ear. From Tyler, he explains it better than I do. Makes you look like a boss.
/r/seduction12/08/13 09:17 PM
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How do you change your game / kino when a girl thinks you're too touchy? How do you show desinterest without coming off as mean? [A girl I know thinks I am interested in her and thus acts unfriendly to me. I don't want to date her - she's a HB8 - I want to benefit from her social circles...)] *note that with HB8 I mean a HB8, most people on seddit would probably say she's a HB9 or something, lol. I follow this scale which is similar distributed as the IQ scale.
/r/seduction12/08/13 08:43 PM
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A little trick to avoid seeming beta is to demand something (little) in exchange for being nice.
/r/seduction12/08/13 08:26 PM
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The essential steps are these two: Do not escalate Do not kino That's it. The rest of the game stays the same. Have Fun!
/r/seduction12/08/13 08:25 PM
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HB5 is by definition average.
/r/seduction12/08/13 08:21 PM
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You never approach from behind. You either center on yourself and attract girls passively (this will work if you're attractive) or you do a research on how to approach girls on the dancefloor. Protip on the latter: YouTube videos are insanely helpful because it's all about the actions. Greetings, a guy who had a lot of club romances after discovering PUA. I'm also mostly focussing on night game because that's more congruent to my personality.
/r/seduction26/07/13 06:54 PM
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Amazing Post! Thanks so much OP.
/r/seduction09/07/13 12:38 AM
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Yeah, but the target of the book is precisely AFC Well then the author should definitely have written about those signals I've mentioned.
/r/seduction22/06/13 03:11 AM
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I can see the danger of what he is saying in inexperienced hands. True. It was a bad idea in case the author forgot to mention the things I have talked about. He hasn't thought it trough - he needs to know his audience (pros?, afcs?, feminists?, average guys?, ...?) and calibrate the content based on the audience. I haven't read the book though, so that's just based on your response.
/r/seduction22/06/13 03:00 AM
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I don't think advocating for the idea that IOIs don't matter and you shouldn't wait for an IOI to escalate physicality is a good idea. It actually is the way to go for advanced PUAs. It is not a good idea for beginners or people who cannot read the body language, decipher girl code or decode the vibe of the person you're gaming. If you take note of these three components you will not get into the danger of "raping" someone. Every good PUA will tell you that you don't need to wait for IOIs. It wo…
/r/seduction22/06/13 02:52 AM
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Can you deliver an example where Obama is on the other side of the handshake?
/r/seduction06/06/13 02:21 AM
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f I can learn how to apply this to "hotter" girls - 8/9/10s, and immediately determine if they're single. Any advice? Look up "Screening", that's what you need to learn now.
/r/seduction28/05/13 12:08 PM
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Nobody asks for Facebook where I live, lol. You're going to get humihilated in public if you do that here.
/r/seduction28/05/13 11:50 AM
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What have these routines "evolved" into? Is he still doing these "evolved" routines or is he all natural now?
/r/seduction28/05/13 02:54 AM
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So, is he?
/r/seduction28/05/13 12:29 AM
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If you ask her for her Facebook instead of her number you fucked up anyway.
/r/seduction27/05/13 11:57 PM
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Use it only to DHV. Always stay offline in chat. Rarely upload stuff. Very rarely "like" something. The idea is to make you look like you have better things to do than spend all your free time on Facebook. No need to delete it. It's pretty decent to show that you're a friendly, attractive, outgoing, [insert all positive traits you want to cover] guy. There's a few PUA Facebook Guides on Google. Read them. I've written the tl;dr version here but it doesn't hurt to know the details as well.
/r/seduction27/05/13 11:55 PM
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Makes me wish I live in NYC!
/r/seduction27/05/13 03:36 PM
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That's great! Is he still doing routines or natural game as well?
/r/seduction27/05/13 10:35 AM
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I do Cold Approaches and I usually walk away, turn around and say "Call me" with a smirk and a Call Me hand movement. Friends told me I look like a boss when doing that.
/r/seduction23/05/13 10:26 PM
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Holler. What's your age?
/r/seduction04/05/13 01:16 AM
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Some more Questions: What do you think about guys using canned routines / scripted conversations? How is game different for men and for women? What do you think about the HB scale? Do you find yourself timing your phone messages so you appear busy (when having a conversation with a potential partner)? What do you think would happen if a PUA would try to seduce you using classic PUA methods (scripted routines, canned material)? What do you think would happen if a natural style PUA would try to se…
/r/seduction25/04/13 08:46 PM
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So, since this is an "Ask me Anything"... How does the average man get that club princess that looks insanely good, treats all men like dirt and feels way superior than everybody around her? Which traits of a nice guy and which traits of an asshole should the ideal man possess? Can men and women be friends (without one part secretly wanting more from the other part)? What is the reason so many men nowadays are depressed because they can't find a female partner? (or are they just more being talke…
/r/seduction25/04/13 08:40 PM
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Sorry I worded that poorly. I meant get the fuck away.
/r/seduction25/04/13 04:37 PM
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This principal gets used a lot in sales, it's called "assuming the sale." Show someone the product, tell the customer the benefits and simply put it in their hands. Or you ask,"would you like the large one or the small one?" I've had that happen to me, told the guy I knew what he was doing and that he should get the fuck out. I think this technique fits much better into seduction than in sales. So it gets people pissed if they're somewhat dominant as well
/r/seduction25/04/13 07:47 AM
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Unicorn advice here. I've read hundreds of tips on reddit, none of them helped. What helped me was recognizing whenever I'm told a name and making a concious effort to remember it. I kept doing this for a while and my brain switched. I now remember 95% of the people's names. And yes, I used to be horrible bad at names. Like, one person introduces themselve in a 1on1 situation and 2 minutes later I already forgot the name.
/r/seduction18/04/13 11:17 PM
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There's a thing called "personality development" and it's a huge movement. Get into that.
/r/seduction16/04/13 05:52 PM
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There's a ton of reasons why women like "bad boys" or "players". For example, a woman will fuck a player purely because she knows that he's had plenty of other women (experience), isn't desperate / won't chase her (abundance) and won't judge her (slut-shaming). The trick is to internalize the appropriate traits of the "bad boy" / "player" and the appropriate traits of the "nice guy" / "best friend". This is what will you get far. Also, you should be aware of the various different traits between …
/r/seduction16/04/13 01:23 PM
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Are we upvoting jokes yet?
/r/seduction16/04/13 02:07 AM
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You know that this entire subreddit is based upon PUA material? also, check my name
/r/seduction16/04/13 02:06 AM
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They're common terms in the PUA lingo - I was so nice to write them out.
/r/seduction06/04/13 05:45 PM
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Can you find out if a person is HSE (High Self Esteem) or LSE (Low Self Esteem) only by cold reading her/him? I encounter a lot of fake personalities when I cold approach, that's why I am asking.
/r/seduction06/04/13 05:24 AM
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Hi Julien. If I recall correctly, you are Swiss (german speaking?). So I have a few questions about our country which you should be able to answer, as you have travelled the world. I also have a few other questions. What are some lines or topics you often find yourself talking about once people (or/and women) realize you're Swiss? How well known is the PUA scene in Switzerland? How do you screen your targets? This is a huge sticking point of mine. How can I end up wasting less time? What are you…
/r/seduction05/04/13 03:52 AM
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You can give a girl two or more options to give her the freedom of choice (it's just an illusion). The date ideas should be planned carefully and either be well deliberated or related to her liking.
/r/seduction04/04/13 01:12 AM
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Because you should always be improving yourself. I doubt, that you, random internet stranger, have more success with women than Julian or Tyler.
/r/seduction03/04/13 10:55 PM
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I don't see a problem in becoming exactly the same person (physically, mentally) as Julian. There are worse ideals.
/r/seduction03/04/13 10:12 PM
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Looking forward to this. He's Swiss so this will be especially interesting for me. 9pm ET equals 03:00 CET (Central European Time).** Well let's see :S.
/r/seduction03/04/13 09:51 PM
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OP, how do you manage to stay motivated when dealing with so many shit tests? I once did more or less the same with a, lets say, HB 8 and she was giving me so many shit tests during text game. There were less shit tests in real life, but oh god I hated texting with her. She started to go on my nerves so much I stopped talking to her and threw the chance. I decided she wasn't worth it. I had better things to do.
/r/seduction02/04/13 05:33 PM
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Haha! For sure we do, oh boy!
/r/seduction29/03/13 10:28 PM
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Thanks for the reply
/r/seduction25/03/13 01:57 AM
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/r/seduction25/03/13 01:04 AM
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Great FR, gives me quite some inspiration. There's only one part I'd like to talk about.... The girl smiles and starts talking when the two guys in the back start AMOGing from peanut gallery. "Come here little girl, I have candy in my van outside," they say mockingly. Now, most guys would be intimidated by such blatant attempts at AMOGing and either shirk away or strike back but I'm not most guys. I smile and completely ignore their comment and invite them into the conversation. "Seriously, did …
/r/seduction24/03/13 05:11 AM
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Welcome to this subreddit. The term you are looking for are IOIs. Google it, there's a ton of material.
/r/seduction22/03/13 12:22 AM
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Or you want to know the dynamics of "text game" just like OP asked.
/r/seduction21/03/13 03:52 AM
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6"11
/r/seduction04/03/13 02:15 AM
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Kino makes the difference between the friendzone and the fuckzone.
/r/seduction04/03/13 02:13 AM
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Great FR. Gives me quite some ideas how I should deal with chodes. Please write more!
/r/seduction02/03/13 05:20 PM
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This is really interesting. Thanks man. I love you, Internet.
/r/seduction28/02/13 03:54 AM
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Both because they go hand in hand (symbiosis).
/r/seduction26/02/13 03:08 AM
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Random Question: If you had the chance to become somewhat globally famous (in a good way), would you take it? Is this effect even noticeable when you're not appearing in a movie or a tv show?
/r/seduction26/02/13 01:38 AM
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I often find myself in situations where I am having a great conversation (= building rapport) with a woman I'm not interested in but I'd like to be friends with. Now sometimes the woman changes her behaviour... she's not as enthusiastic and friendly as before, shows negative body language and fires off a shit test or two. Is this mainly because... she recognizes I'm trying to win her over a test ("What will he do if I change my behaviour?", "Is he faking it?") she's becoming attracted to me it's…
/r/seduction26/02/13 01:33 AM
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These are probably some weak negs, depending on the tone. Anyway: just because they "seem very asshole-ish" they are not useless. Their usage is up to you. And yes, even today negs are highly effective. At least when used on the bitches who think they're club princesses (I encounter these from time to time in Zurich). I like OPs article. Thanks for linking.
/r/seduction25/02/13 11:03 PM
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I would see these girls at the resort club and we became friends through some Iranian guys from Canada that I met. It took me about 3 nights, but I did hook up with the one Swiss girl (only kissing). I noticed that she was incredibly hard to read though. They both also barely drank. We would eventually hang out the rest of the vacation as I had went with my parents, and she went with her one friend and parents. This sounds exactly like something a Swiss girl would do. Here's your confirmation, y…
/r/seduction22/02/13 03:48 PM
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But I guess it's great for shopping & clubs, right?
/r/seduction22/02/13 01:39 AM
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Sounds great to me :-) Thanks!!
/r/seduction22/02/13 01:26 AM
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Why?
/r/seduction22/02/13 01:17 AM
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AFC = Average Frustrated Chump, a guy that has very little success with women, has not been introduced to the seduction community and uses seduction techniques from romantic hollywood movies (like buying her roses for her birthday, confessing his love).
/r/seduction22/02/13 01:02 AM
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/r/seduction22/02/13 12:50 AM
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/r/seduction21/02/13 09:56 PM
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So what? Edit: I think I am a good guy, I view myself as one.
/r/seduction20/02/13 10:09 PM
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So what is a "good guy"? I may be one, so this would be relevant, but I don't know yet. Help me out OP!
/r/seduction20/02/13 09:37 PM
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Him being a PUA and you knowing this will probably ruin the relationship. Just saying. Source: a lot of popular PUAs after their girlfriends found out Also he only read the book by Neil Strauss I guess this is not true at all. Most guys get hooked to Pickup after reading that ;)
/r/seduction17/02/13 03:41 AM
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In the last few weeks I've done a lot of push-pull compliments: PUA: You are the cutest girl... Girl: drools PUA ... I've seen in the last 30 seconds. Girl: "PUA you asshole! ;)" I think there's a special term for those but I don't recall it. They seem like a good example of push-pull to me.
/r/seduction17/02/13 03:39 AM
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Wow loks like I digged up some real gold in here. You are absolutely correct and I will use this everytime from now on. Thanks mate!
/r/seduction17/02/13 03:37 AM
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This is fantastic! (Must Read) I 100% agree. Confirmed a lot of things I have already heard and introduced me to new ways of kino.
/r/seduction15/02/13 04:23 AM
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/r/seduction15/02/13 01:15 AM
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You have to admit; you are part of society as well so you expect a better situation for yourself.
/r/seduction15/02/13 01:00 AM
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I'm not interested in "helping the situation". You are not going to change society's current dating system by making some posts on reddit my friend. OP asked for my advice, there it is. You are just being selfish. Stop wishing girls will ask you out, it will never happen. Even just believing it will happen will damage your dating life! You have a dick, so it's your job to do all the work.
/r/seduction14/02/13 10:49 PM
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I completely disagree. The vast majority of guys are clueless and racked with approach anxiety. Going out and appearing available only attracts the few guys who actually can manage a pick up. That's what I am talking about. OP is female and in her 20s. I don't think she wants a guy who hasn't even the balls to pick her up. Otherwise she would have plenty of those. There's nothing wrong with a girl approaching guys. Except that most of the time this ends in a huge disaster for girls (especially t…
/r/seduction14/02/13 10:47 PM
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Each time that I've tried to approach a guy I might get his number but he never calls This made me smile. Here's the reason why studying Pickup is a big, big advantage for guys. Thank god I found out about it! As a girl, how do I meet guys? Don't approach them, it is not as easy as it looks (why would there be a huge fucking community about it otherwise?). The most simple way for a woman to get a man is by exposing yourself more to the field (clubs, park, local pickup lair...) and wait for a man…
/r/seduction14/02/13 08:03 PM
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Except when they're not stupid? My first try with the 5 questions game ended with her winning it. From then on I only used it on more or less drunk / stupid girls. It isn't that hard to see through the game.
/r/seduction10/02/13 06:22 PM
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If you cant be real, whats the point of "Sarging"? Discover, create and/or observe theories about social dynamics. Trial & Error Validation of methods you have found out on your own or found from someone else. Internalize methods that have shown to be successful multiple times. Become a better self. I don't see the problem here as long as the point of sarging is working on your social dynamics (in opposition to get laid, but that is usually a harmonious relationship).
/r/seduction01/02/13 05:20 AM
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If you can get laid in Toronto, you can get laid ANYWHERE. What's so special about Toronto?
/r/seduction31/01/13 02:22 AM
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The Claw is fucking fantastic. Fieldtested it the last weekend. Met a girl I've known for a while, used the claw on her and now she's spamming me via Whatsapp. She did all the opening, etc. I love it. I wasn't even sarging that night, just socializing. But I guess you're always in the field.
/r/seduction28/01/13 11:19 PM
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I don't think "being a Gentleman" (or anything similar to it) is relevant for seduction anymore. I've closed that case under "no longer works".
/r/seduction28/01/13 11:17 PM
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/r/seduction28/01/13 11:13 PM
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Are you Japanese / Chinese?
/r/seduction19/01/13 02:38 AM
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Good to see I am not the only person who thinks like this.
/r/seduction19/01/13 02:20 AM
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What a huge wall of text... I read it but I can tell you right away that I won't make effort in a detailed response because we both have different focus points, a single user like me won't make a difference, I am not in position of power and I don't know English good enough to get the right point across. I don't care about whether something is a repost or not, whether its my submission or not, I only care about quality content distributed according to its value (same reason why I don't like a ge…
/r/seduction14/01/13 06:41 AM
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If you are dominant, people will accept you as a leader, some things I have observed: You are the first to change the venue, people expect you to lead, they will follow you A group accepts a decision of yours without questioning, even though they might prefer a different decision In moments of confusion, their eyes are on you and they wait for your action(s) They are imitating your behaviour (you look behind them, they will turn around and look behind themselves)
/r/seduction14/01/13 06:20 AM
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Questions which you always have a follow-up questions upon answering (and it doesnt matter what kind of answer you get) so the conversation doesn't die right there. Example: "What is your favorite color?" Distinction of Cases: A: "Blue" --> "Ah, I though so! Don't you think it is interesting nearly everyone says 'blue'?" B: "Red" --> "Oh, that is unusal. Usually people say blue. What makes you like red more than blue?"
/r/seduction14/01/13 05:38 AM
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Ah now I see your point, that's what it is all about. Well good luck bringing that mindset into an internet community (you can see this everywhere, moderators naturally care about the community while users care about content). At least you have convinced one more guy with a lot of text.
/r/seduction14/01/13 05:33 AM
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Obviously, yes. I don't care about whether something is a repost or not, I only care about quality content distributed according to its value.
/r/seduction14/01/13 05:31 AM
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Verbally repeat their name shortly after. "Nice to meet you, Stephanie." Repeat their name in your head. "Stephanie,Stephanie,Stephanie". Associate their name with an attribute "Stephanie - obsessed with golf". Write their name down in your smartphone (yep used to do this). Or, what helped me the most: PRACTICE. I used to had problems with remembering people's names (it's actually very common, OP) and I met a ton of new people. I now don't have the problem anymore and don't need to use a tip or …
/r/seduction13/01/13 07:10 AM
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15, 12 and 8. That is the amount of upvotes the Claw has. In between those posts are 6(?) months. Only a tiny percentage of /r/seduction knows about it.
/r/seduction13/01/13 07:02 AM
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I don't know why you are posting so much shit in seddit lately, maybe you can tell me. I did "threadshit" because I don't think voting a submission down and hiding does enough. Does it? Should I leave it at that in the future? Okay. It's what I have been doing for weeks. Continue reading for insight on my "threadshitting". the reason there isn't enough good content in seddit is because you aren't writing any. No (I'll skip the false claims and menace)... As you can see I am very concious about t…
/r/seduction13/01/13 07:00 AM
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I apologize. I should use the hide button more. Maybe even switch to RES but I don't want to do that. You can't complain about how the seddit community is falling apart, while simultaneously behaving in exactly the way that draws out the worst elements of seddit. What do you mean? I read that as "the hostile tone is destroying seddit". IMO the lack of useful content being shown on the front page is destroying seddit.
/r/seduction13/01/13 06:16 AM
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But we can always invent new openers / routines / techniques / mindsets ;) For example, I have never heard about the Claw before. Until a while ago.
/r/seduction13/01/13 06:09 AM
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I live in a major city. If a guy I've never seen before asks me what time it is, I'm assuming he's trying to steal my phone as I don't wear a watch and neither do many women my age. Again that's why I advised to ask for directions. Well, you shouldn't advice anyone against using that opener purely because of your opinion alone. When guys fighting AA, they are not focussing on closing the set. They are focussing on fighting their AA and they achieve this by asking the time. I've personally tried …
/r/seduction13/01/13 06:08 AM
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You need to invent your own. I don't really do direct daygame, but here are a few Openers: "Listen, I have these $20 and need to find a good present for a female friend of mine [DHV / Social Proof]. Today is her birthday. Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything in the last 30 minutes. You look like you are a shopping expert, could you help me find something?" (INDIRECT OPENER) "Excuse me, do you know where Starbucks is" (she answers) "Actually, I just thought you were cute I’m not even looking f…
/r/seduction13/01/13 06:01 AM
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"What's your name" Then use conversation threading (--> search on reddit), talk in statements, talk about observations, cold read, ...
/r/seduction12/01/13 07:24 PM
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Okay, I have a question: why is there so much shit being posted on Seddit nowadays? More importantly: why is it being upvoted? We have had the Eternal September for quite a while, but are the new beginners just too lazy to read the sidebar? It keeps getting worse and worse.
/r/seduction12/01/13 06:14 PM
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I try to do the same but I still end up fucking them afterwards
/r/seduction11/01/13 05:55 PM
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Who the fuck does this? There's a million reasons not to do that
/r/seduction11/01/13 05:51 PM
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Get rid of your fuckin' phone Huh? What the fuck should this mean? It can't be that hard to be aware of your phone usage, can it...
/r/seduction10/01/13 11:32 PM
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"You're such an AFC, get away from me creep and read 'The Game'."
/r/seduction10/01/13 06:50 PM
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When a girl gives me an IOI (that's not even an opener), then yes, I always assume you are propositioning sex. It's part of the Game skilled guys should have.
/r/seduction10/01/13 06:48 PM
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$2.5k Damn, this makes me wanna open a PUA company, approach 1000 women while being filmed, put the 100 success videos online and pretend to be the best PUA ever. Fuck you Owen (Tyler from RSD), why were you born before me? I could be the one swimming in money right now.
/r/seduction09/01/13 04:55 PM
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MM is a very good foundation, even today. Just make sure you don't follow it like a strict motherfucker. It is different everytime, the phases vary. I recommend this to newbies.
/r/seduction09/01/13 04:51 PM
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OH I WILL DO IT AND THERE IS NO WAY YOU ARE GOING TO STOP ME!! ... (I was actually talking about the Claw)
/r/seduction08/01/13 04:13 AM
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Let me comment about a scene that takes place at about 3:50 in the video. JULIEN talks to a girl: DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? "no" FOCUS "uuhhh" YOU SHOULD BE BEGGING BEGGING TO LICK THE SHIT OFF MY DICK [... EXPLAINS THE ANALOGY ...] "uhh okay" This is as creepy as it can get and the girl still stays in the set. That's mainly because (1) he's Julien, so he has a high attraction going on and (2) he's using the claw (check my post here: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/163fcx/opener_the_claw_…
/r/seduction08/01/13 03:15 AM
6

I see this is being downvoted. I am constantly looking for more Outer Game Routines on Seddit - I guess this is why I don't find them. Well fuck.
/r/seduction07/01/13 06:56 PM
3

It's really useful, but if you got a really beta AFC guy to do this, it comes off as extremely creepy. Good thing I posted this in /r/seduction
/r/seduction07/01/13 06:10 AM
14

"I like that." and continue building attraction + rapport. Ask again later.
/r/seduction07/01/13 04:52 AM
5

In-Field example #1 - Opener In-Field example #2 - Opener In-Field example #3 - Opener In-Field example #4 - Kino. In my own city - Zürich. See the claw at around 3:00 In-Field example #5 - Opener (complete pull) More about The Claw: Anyway, my conclusion is that it does work but you have to have a Certain frame to pull it off: You have to be overly sexual Overly dominant Overly physical Deal with major shit tests etc. http://www.theattractionforums.com/general-discussion/152542-claw-hand-god-op…
/r/seduction07/01/13 02:23 AM
1

"How do you get a guy's number" I don't think she is talking about cold approaching a 10/10 guy in a nightclub, my friend.
/r/seduction06/01/13 06:30 PM
13

Yeah there is too much InnerGame shit on Seddit. Read through the sidebar and you got most Inner Game you need. Inner Game alone also won't give you anything. Vote for more Outer Game on Seddit!
/r/seduction06/01/13 03:36 AM
4

I am getting sick of Cold Approaches in my Club Game (note that I am talking about Clubs only, not bars / Night Game in general). How do your successful Cold Approaches in Clubs look like? Where do you do them (dance floor, at the bar, smoker lounge, outside...)? I mix a 50% Cold Approach, 50% Hot Approach in my Club Game and I get nearly all of my success out of a Hot Approach. I am never drunk when approaching. I use multiple kinds of openers (most of them are direct - maybe I should go indire…
/r/seduction05/01/13 04:50 AM
1

16 fucking minutes? Can you give me a tl;dr? I have the feeling he talks around way too much whereas you can just give a list with arguments / counterarguments.
/r/seduction04/01/13 01:26 AM
2

Show her through your body language.
/r/seduction01/01/13 05:04 PM
1

I hope so my friend. I'll do a bit of daygame in Zurich over the next few weekends.
/r/seduction31/12/12 06:24 PM
1

Nice to hear you like my country! Where are you from and what was your age back then, when I might ask? And yes, Bern is full with old people... haha! I personally find it a lot easier to pull girls when visiting other countrys. Swiss women are harder to seduce (because swiss people are naturally not open to strangers... you don't just greet other people on the street). Polls show the same, Zurich just got voted one of the most beautiful cities but with the unfriendliest people.
/r/seduction30/12/12 07:37 PM
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I have overheard a couple of 14 year old boys in the train a while ago. First you have to befriend her, then you poke her until she messages you.
/r/seduction30/12/12 04:21 AM
1

Is OG (Online Game) really worth doing? OKCupid isn't even use in my country (though I have heard of other services). What speaks against OG IMHO: Hot Chicks don't need to use OG in order to get laid because they can easily get hot guys in real life. The competition is much harder. Women have to dig through hundreds of messages and pick a few ones they will reply to. I am pretty sure a lot of guys copy paste the same line to 5-50 women day for day. They don't have the PUA balls to approach them …
/r/seduction30/12/12 04:19 AM
1

Do what ThrowawayPUA said. Or, if you are lazy, don't do anything at all. It's not suprising: most women don't have the balls to initiate / actively seduce / push the relationship to the next level.
/r/seduction29/12/12 03:26 AM
2

You are right, there's a lot of amiguity about this in PUA. It's about being an OPEN PERSON (= focus on comfort) vs being a MYSTERIOUS PERSON (= focus on attraction). Experiment and do whatever works best for you. For myself, I have found that being an OPEN PERSON works best. Of course I use PUSH & PULL all the time to take care of the missing attraction. Sometimes my PUSH & PULL is one-way (physical + stimulation | physical - stimulation) or two-way ( physical - stimulation & verbal + stimulati…
/r/seduction24/12/12 10:38 PM
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What a stupid question. Of course it is. Do whatever you want, man. Your brain is looking for excuses.
/r/seduction24/12/12 10:35 PM
2

OP, the first thing you need to learn is that LIFE IS NOT A FUCKING MOVIE. Are all girls my age (early 20s) just looking for sex? That's a question noone can answer, except if you take it literally: ALL? NO. But a lot of them are. And I love it.
/r/seduction24/12/12 10:32 PM
1

Yes, everyone is shit testing. Most people (especially women when it comes to Game) don't even realize it. Passing / Not passing a shit test decides whether you gain / lose respect (social life) or attraction (Game). Looks like you need to read up on shit tests, OP. I recommend a quick google search, read all articles on the first page. Once you know how to pass shit tests, you are going to love them: In a social setting, you will be able to stand out and get more value In a Game setting, you wi…
/r/seduction24/12/12 10:31 PM
1

le creepy pickup face
/r/seduction22/12/12 04:24 PM
11

Good thread OP. No way this could backfire.
/r/seduction22/12/12 04:22 PM
1

That's why I added "try" to that sentence. It doesn't suit everyone, but most :)
/r/seduction22/12/12 04:20 PM
0

What a useless advice. My advice: do a research on how to take better pictures / become photogenic, practice how to smile in front of mirror, watch how actors with similar face structure to yours do it, practice by yourself, try and error, succeed. Protip: try as much as you can to show your teeth when smiling.
/r/seduction21/12/12 08:49 PM
4

Good post, OP. Shows it doesn't take much effort to change a lot. except for: I had also read and watched some PUA stuff and personally I never liked the whole PUA thing where you are "gaming" the girl by using openers, negging her and all that stuff even though I know it works. Why do I need to keep reading this - on this subreddit? Why? Your post is full of Pickup material and you prove it yourself (yet you don't realize it). For example, here's the PUA term for what you did on Facebook: SOCIA…
/r/seduction21/12/12 08:47 PM
3

Looks like /r/seduction has less and less to do with actual seduction (pickup) advice and becomes a second /r/selfimprovement. Unfortunately, you cant change the url /r/seduction my friend.
/r/seduction21/12/12 04:11 PM
2

1 in Seddit Today I approached a woman Needless to say, afterwards I felt like a god. Thank you Simple Pick-up. You really rustled my jimmies with this one, 7/10 troll. (WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?)
/r/seduction16/12/12 03:48 PM
3

see, its that easy...
/r/seduction14/12/12 10:52 PM
3

Yes its a shit test. And if it isn't it is best treated like one.
/r/seduction14/12/12 10:52 PM
1

Read up on shit tests. These are classic shit tests and it's not a bad thing at all, being called a player.
/r/seduction14/12/12 02:38 PM
0

Le funny post.
/r/seduction04/12/12 06:32 PM
3

My example was for when she is lying about having a boyfriend. My point was a girl isn't going to lie to you about having a boyfriend if she is in fact interested in you, as some sort of elaborate chick mind game. Oooh, they will. As I said in my previous post: Relationships = High Value Demonstration. They do this to show increase their value. When does a girl increase her value? When she wants to impress you. When does a girl want to impress you? For example, when she wants to make sure you un…
/r/seduction04/12/12 12:46 AM
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Note that you are telling OP and other people in here that if she mentions her boyfriend, she wants you to GTFO in 99% of cases. And that's not true. So she has a boyfriend, who gives a shit? Some girls stay in relationships with assholes (and they hate their SO) simply because they want to be in a relationship, not because of their SO. Relationships = High Value Demonstration. If she is reacting positive to your game, then you should not let that stop you. Shit-Tests are positive reactions. You…
/r/seduction03/12/12 11:35 PM
1

I agree. When it comes to opening, your energy level, your reality and how you say it is much more important. This doesn't mean that a good opener is worthless. It's just not that important that you should not approach her. The worst opener in the world is better than no opener.
/r/seduction02/12/12 06:48 PM
1

I don't like lists like these. They tend to be filled with errors (especially bigger lists) and they lack an information that is absolutely critical: THE EXPLANATION. If you don't understand why you are doing it, then you will come off as uncongruent => liar,wanna-be, trying to impress others. Oh and it's full of contradictions if you haven't noticed yet. TL;DR: This list will only hurt you in multiple aspects. In fact, disregard this list and do your fucking research. Read SOLID PICKUP MATERIAL…
/r/seduction28/11/12 06:39 PM
3

You are a living inspiration, my friend.
/r/seduction26/11/12 01:07 PM
7

introvert I wonder how many fucking introverts we have here on /r/seduction. Maybe we should create a /r/seductionforintroverts or something. Man, in the very first post I've read about AA there was a person crying that he's an introvert. I've gone through his history and realized that he went out, approached and wrote quite some FRs and had some success. tl;dr: If you believe you are an introvert, you very likely aren't. You're simply looking for excuses (which is a very bad thing) and you are …
/r/seduction26/11/12 01:05 PM
2

This. Most of people who cry "I am le introvert I have it much harder than the amputee when it comes to seducing women!" just need to discover their fucking balls (get courage if you don't like sexism). So what if you believe that you're an introvert? Go big or go home. Stop looking for excuses. Get rid of those Limited Beliefs.
/r/seduction26/11/12 12:59 PM
1

Relax more = shower hot Dry skin = ? More testorene = shower hot Less testosterone = shower cold Are there more differences, what benefits do you get when choosing the water temperature? Sorry I go all aspie about this right now but it is really interesting since it is always being talked about.
/r/seduction26/11/12 03:17 AM
1

for the overall benefit including all possible aspects
/r/seduction26/11/12 02:08 AM
3

Self-deprecating humor and seduction doesn't mix very good IMHO. Don't do it.
/r/seduction26/11/12 01:19 AM
3

So now what's better, showering cold or hot?
/r/seduction26/11/12 01:18 AM
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How about you actually start reading Pickup Material. Edit: Seriously OP, my advice is currently the best one in this thread. Trust me.
/r/seduction25/11/12 09:10 PM
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7/10 Troll Job, you reached #1 of /r/seduction I see it because you used PUA slang on purpose where it doesn't really make sense. Gives me the hint that you don't actually know much about PUA, however since you insist on writing in PUA slang it makes it obvious that you're trolling. Some parts that really made you shine: Dressing well is key Kept eye contact and smiles with waitresses as I walk by with shoulders up. In their mind, they are probably wondering who this guy is a horny troll She was…
/r/seduction25/11/12 04:52 PM
4

The standard method (à la Mystery) is befriend the friend. However, new PUAs (inlcluding Tyler) show that this is not necessary. You don't have to "befriend the fucking friends", he says. Instead he does the opposite - he makes her go away by saying "NO SHE'S MINE!" It is up to your calibration what to use. I'd say you are more the guy for the old method (befriend). DON'T ignore the friend! Oh and yes a wingman is the easiest solution for bigger sets.
/r/seduction24/11/12 10:32 PM
2

Repost this in /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction24/11/12 10:14 PM
1

What the fuck man.
/r/seduction24/11/12 10:14 PM
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By using the super secret trick women use so they can remain passive and guys will automatically give them their numbers. No but seriously, your post is wrong on so many levels and you don't even realize it. Seduction does not work that way unless you want an answer you probably don't like: be more attractive.
/r/seduction24/11/12 10:09 PM
5

Looks like the Eternal September of /r/seduction is rearing its head again.
/r/seduction24/11/12 10:07 PM
4

THIS. DOES. NOT MATTER. Read: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/13oqr3/the_defensive_attitude_women_have_when_out_is/c75tuer Read: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/13oqr3/the_defensive_attitude_women_have_when_out_is/c75x1aj Why do you guys keep saying this.
/r/seduction24/11/12 07:06 PM
1

This is what I am talking about. I don't know why some people in here (including OP) don't get this.
/r/seduction24/11/12 07:04 PM
3

"reason to feel bad." Sorry that was a meme: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/x-is-bad-and-you-should-feel-bad (and doesn't actually mean anything. I should have left it out for the sake of discussion.) I agree with the next paragraphs of your post. Though I have that feeling that if I compliment strangers (women) on the obvious I will get more than 1% bitchy answers... simply because they get annoyed of hearing it everytime.
/r/seduction24/11/12 01:50 AM
2

I wouldn't delete it after one try. Why ruin your chances? There are several things you can do: Text again Use her for 'Pings' Call her Use her to experiment with this kind of stuff and you will learn from it.
/r/seduction24/11/12 01:47 AM
6

Need to share this: There are people in this world who go out and AMOG other people in order to feel better about themselves. An acquaintance that invited me to go out with him did this. He was always looking for a smaller, weaker dude standing somewhere alone and would do dickish things to that total stranger simply because it boosted his ego. Needless to say, I don't talk much with that acquaintance anymore and I don't ever want to hang out with him again. I remember reading a controversial po…
/r/seduction24/11/12 01:33 AM
1

I'd say, talk slower and think before you talk. It makes you appear more sexy. Take a look at how Richard La Ruina talks, I'm currently observing his body language as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-unuqF4uklE Oh and the video is great as well if you want to learn more about Pickup! 2 things in 1!
/r/seduction24/11/12 01:28 AM
2

Your friend is an absolute boss for admitting this. Just wanted to say that. Really rare - most guys will always find some sort of excuse.
/r/seduction24/11/12 01:26 AM
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I delivered the explanation why girls will be rude to you and will continue to be rude due to your philosophy: "if I feel something, say it" fits perfectly well with case a.). It doesn't matter what your philosophy is, whether you being honest or whatever. You're just another guy to her and she doesn't give a flying fuck, that's why people will be rude to you if you annoy them in the first interaction. What you need to see is that you will run into these reactions all the time. In order to get a…
/r/seduction24/11/12 01:22 AM
2

Interesting passions anyone can learn and will be attractive to the typical kind of girl a PUA wants to attract: dancing, cooking, mixing cocktails, speaking multiple languages, ...
/r/seduction24/11/12 01:12 AM
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You don't know if you have a passion? Fix that immediately. At least one strong passion is an absolute MUST! You like reading and sports? Sports sound like an awesome passion for me in order to socialize with other guys and reading... to be honest, it doesn't sound that FUN (=important). You can also ask yourself: what type of girl do I want? Then look at the guys who are with these girls. Find out their passion. Adapt. Note that I am all about results and none of that Be-True-To-Yourself-Shit
/r/seduction24/11/12 01:02 AM
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No idea. At least I found out how I can swim in dat sweet sweet karma. I'll simply post the exact same reply everytime someone replies on Im_a_rapist's comment. Circlejerk anyone?
/r/seduction24/11/12 12:50 AM
2

NAY, YOU DON'T SLEEP WITH CO-WORKERS <- HOW THE FUCK DO PEOPLE STILL NOT KNOW THIS Unless she's that hot that she is worth losing your job.
/r/seduction24/11/12 12:44 AM
3

What is your passion?
/r/seduction24/11/12 12:44 AM
2

Don't run direct game at parties. Most guys have more success with indirect.
/r/seduction24/11/12 12:43 AM
37

Hey, I just wanted to say you have really beautiful eyes Your opener is bad and you should feel bad. That's the whole reason for all this bullshit. Explanation: 2 possible cases a) She has beautiful eyes --> She heard this a million times before. You will come off as boring (like all the other losers who used it on her) the second you say it, she will be annoyed and will instantly shut you down (Proof: your FR). b) She doesn't have beautiful eyes --> She heard this a hundred times before. It's a…
/r/seduction24/11/12 12:39 AM
2

I recommend doing this as a Hot Approach rather than a Cold Approach (the difference is that a Hot Approach requires a forced IOI (in the best case) or eye contact / whatever), will try it the next time I'm out! Thanks OP. Edit: One last question, where are you from (country, if you want to stay anonymous)? I do believe certain openers work better in certain countries, just like you have to adjust your game.
/r/seduction24/11/12 12:34 AM
1

Let the flaming begin... ;) Sentences like these make me auto-ignore most of the content surrounded by it.
/r/seduction24/11/12 12:31 AM
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How to get karma: Track Im_a_rapist comments page Immediately reply "Nice try, Im_a_rapist." once a new comment has been found ??? SWIM IN DAT SWEET SWEET KARMA
/r/seduction23/11/12 11:06 PM
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Don't make this mistake I expected a short, concentrated and quick read. Yet I still don't understand your text, OP. It is rather long, filled with some unnecessary personal stuff and other things I don't care about. I don't get the 'message' neither do I know what mistake you made. Am I a bad person for expecting this much?
/r/seduction23/11/12 06:11 PM
1

Probably a great watch! (If you are interested in the scene - I am sure this isn't something to learn PUA material from) EDIT: There are a lot of great tips in there! For example, he talks about forcing IOIs.
/r/seduction22/11/12 01:12 AM
1

True. You have to break some sort of shell first.
/r/seduction18/11/12 11:01 PM
5

200 approaches and no results? Either bullshit or the worst case I've ever seen. If it is the latter, get a wingman or join a lair. They will tell you WHAT you are doing wrong. WE CAN'T!
/r/seduction18/11/12 06:51 PM
25

THE FUCK WERE YOU DOING SON?
/r/seduction18/11/12 06:17 AM
2

Am I right that you suppose: Simply be funny and you will get from meeting the girl to having sex with her by being funny only. ? Cause it's not true. Being funny is a good bonus, but in order to get laid you have to ESCALATE. Again, so you and everyone else who believes this (there are a lot of guys who think like OP): BEING FUNNY WON'T GET YOU LAID.
/r/seduction17/11/12 07:07 PM
1

I'd say go for the one with more Outer Game. Maybe ask in the RSD Forum about the contents. (and if you can, get your money back, shit on the bootcamp and just go out man)
/r/seduction17/11/12 06:59 PM
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.
/r/seduction17/11/12 06:52 PM
2

hopeless optimist You probably are (or you are both desperate and lazy). I wouldn't waste my time. For me, Pickup clicked the instant I first read about it.
/r/seduction16/11/12 07:05 PM
3

A really innocent routine. I'll try it when it might come in handy.
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:52 PM
1

Then you're either an exception or just not that much interested in Pickup. I don't get why you would subscribe to a subreddit you know you will never get anything useful from it.
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:49 PM
2

Why is it that most people have such a negative view of this subreddit? It's simple: (1) Most people make a connection between /r/seduction and the term "PUA" (which is true). (2) "PUA" is a term most people think bad about (this is due to the media and people trash-talking it, when they really don't know much about what they are saying - this does not stop the word. Combine (1) and (2) and you have your answer.
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:47 PM
1

You're still here. You talk about it. You probably thought about it multiple times. I say it is working.
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:44 PM
2

Because he has some spare popcorn and he wants to eat it while reading the comments in here.
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:43 PM
-1

The PUA advice for getting past LMR is to back off / freeze her. This has nothing to with rape at all. If anything, she rapes the PUA (sarcasm end).
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:41 PM
3

The lingo is needed to get new members deeper in the community, hold the community together and create a sense of togetherness (Proof: my own case). Any more questions? I see this quite often when it's really simple to answer.
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:40 PM
3

Wait, can you please tell me how I can (psychologically) trick a super hot girl into having (and wanting) sex with me as fast as possible? Please tell! I need dat freaky advice! Hope this isn't frowned upon!!
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:38 PM
2

Screening and Escalation.
/r/seduction15/11/12 07:08 PM
1

You should use these examples when you're unsure about what to do in a certain situation. You should be smart enough to figure out when it's better to not do something and disregard the rule "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take" <-- you wouldn't take the shot and try to kill yourself, right? Makes sense. Don't take my examples as absurd absolute truth. No reason to turn your head off.
/r/seduction14/11/12 08:13 PM
2

Don't forget to make a ton of money out of this (just like the SimplePickup Guys).
/r/seduction14/11/12 05:39 PM
1

Most robust advice in the entire thread.
/r/seduction14/11/12 05:38 PM
8

hahaha, so funny! le funny answer belongs to the top, amirite? never change, reddit. never change.
/r/seduction14/11/12 05:37 PM
7

I'd say internalizing Inner Game Material has given me the best returns since it not only applies to the dating life. A few examples: You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. EVERYONE. You are a man. You must initiate. ALWAYS. Failure is better than regret. EVERYTIME.
/r/seduction13/11/12 06:20 PM
2

First of all, this is good because it shows that you have a high level of empathy. Means that you can relate to people better than others. Now, to your problem: I can't help but get anxious when other people who are anxious are around me. How do I keep frame? You keep frame by making the thought in your head: "they are anxious. I am not. I appear more secure than them, therefore I appear more alpha, therefore I appear more important, therefore I am of higher value". You are superior. However, I …
/r/seduction13/11/12 12:24 AM
1

Fuck your advice. If OP has no other chance than hitting her on her work place, then he should go for it. The most horrible spot for hitting on a girl is still better than not hitting on a girl at all! Check this: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/131v1g/how_do_you_guys_open_on_a_girl_in_the_checkstand/c70bi5d
/r/seduction13/11/12 12:21 AM
0

Confession: I've been lurking for over a year and still have not approached a girl. Dude, how is this even possible. If I were you I would visit a psychologist/professional help (NO BOOTCAMP) (I suppose you have done the research on your Sticking Point and still didn't manage to overcome it). So, give yourself a deadline: either do a babystep approach OR visit a psychologist OR give up on all this. You have 3 choices, good luck.
/r/seduction12/11/12 11:58 PM
23

Well, that's bullshit. In order to gain confidence you can simply fake confidence -> this will put you in new situations -> there is a chance you master these new situations -> you gain confidence. It's that easy.
/r/seduction11/11/12 07:55 PM
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Always fake it until you make it. There are multiple advantages in doing so. Who told you that it won't work? That person must be full of bullshit.
/r/seduction11/11/12 06:45 PM
1

I don't recommend this.
/r/seduction09/11/12 10:54 PM
1

Thanks for the reply. I've found an interesting text about Uni Game at a different Pickup forum and it helped me a lot. (tl;dr of what I've found: go indirect -> conversation -> get number -> meet again at uni -> conversation -> agree to meet up later outside of uni -> profit)
/r/seduction09/11/12 01:44 AM
1

I don't recall more since I usually befriend them. Works pretty good. But you can google "how to handle AMOG" for some more tips.
/r/seduction08/11/12 05:12 PM
1

You act like you're mastering chess or tennis or something. These are people. Human, emotional interactions. It's not a skill to be practiced. If I watch my progress then it totally seems like a skill that improved the more I practised... and I don't want to stop now! I will stop when I can relax and look back how far I came. I think the community shrinking is a good thing because PUA is ultimately not very effective. It's a crutch for people who are socially stunted. It's a form of therapy in d…
/r/seduction07/11/12 07:31 PM
1

Mini Freezes and increase the Freeze everytime.
/r/seduction07/11/12 06:58 PM
1

Thanks for the reply. Some more questions/answers from my side: Interesting. I agree. You shouldn't be proud of something you have not mastered yet. I am doing it because I want to master it. Same reason I don't tell people what Pickup actually is. People don't understand that in order to score you need to fail - they except you to be a 100%-scorer. You can never live up to their expectations which means they will always look down on you. That's why. Come and visit me! Thanks for the info. Am I …
/r/seduction07/11/12 06:52 PM
3

befriend them say something like "look [girls name], hes trying to impress you. is it working?" remain alpha, and don't become quiet and let him steer the conversation I usually make my presence known by putting the arm around the girl or something of the likes, while poking fun at them in some way say to the girl "do you want to talk to this guy?" and if she says yes, then fuck it let her talk to him. If she says no, then LEAD her away from the guy. Just a few. Note that none of these include p…
/r/seduction07/11/12 06:33 PM
1

AMOG him.
/r/seduction07/11/12 02:35 PM
2

Hi there. I am writing this from my phone so please excuse my autocorrect errors. Now, I have a few questions for you: Has the Pickup community affected the general dating scene in the US or and Europe? If so, what have the various techniques, routines and ideas of PUAs changed in our dating system (for example, is there an opener invented by a PUA that most men use without knowing what Pickup is)? I go out to sarge and have fun nearly every week. Until now, nobody has found out I am an aspiring…
/r/seduction07/11/12 02:33 PM
1

Perfect!
/r/seduction06/11/12 07:02 PM
5

I mostly use negging in order to show higher value (little sister neg = teasing). Then from time to time I use them as an IOD or as a way to tell a girl to fuck off. "Negs only work if you're funny" doesn't apply here.
/r/seduction06/11/12 06:24 PM
1

The question is, will he do the AMA in /r/iama where it is doomed or will the AMA be in /r/seduction ?
/r/seduction06/11/12 06:22 PM
1

I don't need to look out for that.
/r/seduction06/11/12 11:56 AM
1

You either focus on entertainment or seduction advice. They focus on entertainment. Ergo, they should not be taken as basis for seduction advice. It upsets me because I see so many people not getting this.
/r/seduction06/11/12 12:28 AM
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Don't do this. Atleast not in that way.
/r/seduction05/11/12 07:43 PM
2

Which is their second goal after making money, because that's what spreads their videos and keeps their subscribers.
/r/seduction05/11/12 02:35 PM
2

Yep. That's the "PUA's guide on how to keep girls around as your animate body pillow" routine.
/r/seduction05/11/12 01:57 PM
4

Good to know I am not alone in my fight against OP and her endless army of mercyless whiteknights.
/r/seduction05/11/12 01:55 PM
21

What is this shit doing in /r/seduction? Even worse, look at all the upvotes! Your post made me rage good. Here's some stuff I liked the most: girl I have pretty fucking good game without trying. Make sense. (No - you don't have any game. That's just standard female behaviour. Dropping suble hints, play the passive part (check how you didn't get what you want because you were passive), etc. You want to know what GAME is? Cold approaching a guy and properly seducing until you're in his bed and fu…
/r/seduction05/11/12 01:32 PM
5

and wish I had the gall to try some of these things out! Nearly everyone "has the gall" to do these things when there's a paycheck of multiple thousands of $ waiting for you. That's why I don't like them. Their main motivation is not YOU - it's their MONEY. If everyone used Adblock, they would be gone within the next video.
/r/seduction05/11/12 01:30 PM
0

upvot dis if u chill evertim
/r/seduction05/11/12 12:28 PM
2

From what I read your Sticking Point is Approach Anxiety. What I would do in your situation, google the shit out of that problem and try every single technique to overcome it. And by try I mean TRY. Some tips that helped me: Go to a new city Go alone Go at night Please don't waste money for a bootcamp/coaching. I'd help you out for free if you were in my country.
/r/seduction05/11/12 01:06 AM
2

Use it to set up meetings IRL. Read the PUA's guide to Facebook. Don't do online game on Facebook. Use it as DHV. Set profile visible to friends only. Profit.
/r/seduction05/11/12 01:03 AM
-3

Yeah, I am nearly shaking right now. This subreddit becomes shittier everyday. And I guess I won't be the first REAL PUA (= actually goes out and practices / develops / learns PUA techniques) that leaves it because it has become that shitty.
/r/seduction05/11/12 12:58 AM
1

I didn't use a trick. I couldn't remember a person's name for longer than one minute. I don't have this problem anymore, and yes, it's a huge advantage if you know a person's name. Here's what I did: I became aware of the issue (like you just did) and made effort to remember everyone's name (like you have to do). After a while, your brain will get used to remember people's names and you will not have this problem anymore.
/r/seduction04/11/12 11:15 PM
2

Reading this subreddit makes me angry in the last few days. We don't want to read about your personal problems - a hundred other guys have had the same problem and saved it using the SIDEBAR. What we want to read is NEW AND USEFUL PICKUP CONTENT.
/r/seduction04/11/12 09:17 PM
2

Why is this in /r/seduction WHY WHY!!
/r/seduction03/11/12 07:52 PM
1

I hate seeing questions like these because they imply that you haven't read the sidebar. The sidebar answers your question and a whole bunch of other questions you will ask yourself while learning Pickup. It's really worth reading! The moderators suggest something like 1 hour material : 3 hour sarging. I suggest 1 hour material, 1 hour sarging for beginners. Increase over time, start with basic principles and focus on one at a time.
/r/seduction01/11/12 11:50 PM
2

I suggest you do a quick google search for "Pickup Cats". These are forums dedicated to women practicing Pickup. I don't really know why women are studying Pickup just as hard as most men, but there definitely are some who are just as educated as some PUAs (women tend to be more educated, actually). Most women don't need / see the need for Pickup. I wonder what reasons they have.
/r/seduction01/11/12 11:40 PM
0

To the top with you. Yes it really isn't.
/r/seduction01/11/12 11:34 PM
0

Just go out goddamned. What are you afraid of?
/r/seduction01/11/12 11:33 PM
3

Rule Number #1 on this Planet: Don't take everything you see in the media as the absolute truth.
/r/seduction30/10/12 10:58 PM
6

Implying Seddit isn't being flooded by content that has less and less to do with actual Pickup. It's an unstoppable process and it will get worse over time. Seddit and Askseddit keeps growing - Eternal September - More people want "average dating advice" (= /r/relationship_advice + /r/dating_advice) will join - More people post "average dating advice" - /r/seduction will have less actual pickup content - repeat ad infitum Enjoy it while it last(s)(ed).
/r/seduction30/10/12 10:54 PM
13

I guess it's a good thing then, that this subreddit has less and less to do with real pickup. Really, this has become a second /r/dating_advice combined with /r/relationship_advice
/r/seduction30/10/12 10:47 PM
2

Haha, that is what I do when I have an AMOG in a set. I befriend and belittle them using exactly the same words you've used. That usually shuts them up pretty good. Just wanted to give you a hint to use what OP mentioned the next time there's an AMOG in your set.
/r/seduction30/10/12 09:49 PM
0

What does it mean when women tell you their friend is single in a club? How clueless (or innocent if you want to be nice) can you be? Men nowadys, tss...
/r/seduction30/10/12 09:47 PM
4

How about you read the sidebar.
/r/seduction29/10/12 12:35 AM
-6

Do Roof Blasts from time to time to keep the attraction high and make yourself seem unpredictable. Edit: Downvotes? Yeah, I guess it's too hard to do a quick google search on "PUA Roof Blast" and find the most awesome techqniue ever for keeping your girlfriend.
/r/seduction28/10/12 04:19 PM
9

Night game --> Indirect Day game --> Direct In night game they know you're interested sexually, whereas in day game you must open direct. Problem solved in both cases.
/r/seduction20/10/12 12:06 AM
1

Much, much better
/r/seduction13/10/12 12:07 AM
4

Personally I find this a better rule: "If you don't take the initiative, you will lose" I find it sends a stronger message than "Who Dares Wins".
/r/seduction09/10/12 01:02 PM
2

wow... some stuff makes sense, some doesn't. I guess there is an explanation to each point in the book? And I guess the point of following the Rules in finding Mr. Right? Well, that can take a while because most of these points teach the girls to reduce communication to a minimum and remain passive from start to the end. That's the same they have been doing all the time and it seems like they haven't found Mr. Right yet with that method.
/r/seduction09/10/12 12:56 PM
1

That sounds very interesting. Can you tell us more about that, please?
/r/seduction09/10/12 12:01 PM
1

I don't have an exact number, but yes I was talking about nervous / uncomfortable gazing. My tip is, everytime you have the desire to turn around how likely it is that something important happened. If it isn't important enough, don't even turn your head. If you do, at least turn your head slowly. Unless it someone calling your name or a bomb exploded behind you. You should definitely do a little experiment the next time you are a leader of a group in a bar. When there's no one talking, turn your…
/r/seduction07/10/12 11:57 PM
2

It particularly applies to Club Game because it is an extraordinary environment. The flashing lights, dark setting, extremely loud music, random people dancing, people getting drunk, occasional fog, lasers, drugs, people making out ... you gotta agree that it is NOT a "normal" environment. Unless you're a PUA who goes clubbing every week or even everyday. And because of that, there is a connection to: people not used to the environment of a club <--> high responsiveness <--> high awareness radiu…
/r/seduction07/10/12 11:48 PM
5

So did she buy you a drink?
/r/seduction07/10/12 11:43 PM
1

The ARV is just a guide/help, use it if you want to. The main message is that in order to increase your attraction - especially in club environments - it is important to have a low Awareness Radius and show Unresponsiveness. You are in a club, talking to a group of people. Somebody walks in. You turn around to see if that's your buddy or maybe a hot girl. You hear a banging sound behind the bar. You are curious to see what kind of odd cocktail they are making. You turn to the left. Somebody shou…
/r/seduction07/10/12 05:57 PM
5

I agree that the analogy isn't very fitting here, but the main message is that in order to increase your attraction - especially in club environments - it is important to have a low Awareness Radius and show Unresponsiveness.
/r/seduction07/10/12 05:48 PM
2

Because it gives you the "I am unresponsive / I am cool / I am comfortable in this situation"-look. Look out for this kind of behaviour the next time you are in a club, a lot of people do it. It makes them appear more confident and thus raises their value.
/r/seduction07/10/12 05:45 PM
1

Is there a script or a video of this?
/r/seduction06/10/12 03:27 PM
4

I didn't close though, the girl did all the moves! Congrats man! You just got lucky. Now why don't you start doing Pickup and take control over your dating life! Protip: Start going to places and something might happen. I don't like this. I recommend going to places and take the active part instead of just waiting and hoping to get lucky - it's gonna take a while...
/r/seduction01/10/12 08:25 PM
1

I think the best way to kill your AA is doing cold approaches. It worked for me. There is nothing more risky than doing cold approaches for me so everything below it is harmless when you compare it to the cold approaches. Protip: do cold approaches somewhere you don't know anyone and you're alone in order to fight your AA.
/r/seduction30/09/12 03:50 PM
5

Stop caring what other people think about /r/seduction. If you don't like a post, downvote it. But yeah, sometimes I shake my head when I see what gets upvoted to the top in this sub. At least now it is properly tagged Inner Game so I can skim through the OP so I don't waste too much of my time.
/r/seduction30/09/12 03:43 PM
1

Condoms, always. Exchange all 2 weeks.
/r/seduction24/09/12 08:38 PM
7

You can totally get laid even if you're miserable.
/r/seduction21/09/12 06:03 PM
1

Awesome. Thanks for all your work, frogma!
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:51 PM
0

I had quite a bit of success with my Shotgun technique AFTER/WHILE the partys. I open big groups by more or less shouting something (not necessarily in their direction) and I instantly screen for receptive girls. I then approach receptive ones. You may recognize the technique from Richard La Ruina's Formula for Night Game. I combine "Forcing IOIs" with "Shotgun Technique".
/r/seduction18/09/12 10:43 PM
3

OP is speaking what has been bothering me for the last few months. I don't think there is anything to add. 10/10 Post
/r/seduction18/09/12 10:33 PM
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