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This is the sales equivalent of a sleazy pickup artist. You can tell he's trying to sell something just by the way he writes. Its just sad, but kind of informative to read. First we start with a opener: "Does this situation sound familiar at all?" Then try to evoke emotion: "Now, this woman is EXACTLY your type - her hair, her eyes, the way she dresses ". Trying to get you visualizing - turn on feelings, turn off rational thought. Evoke feelings of loss (withdrawal) "And as you close the door be…
/r/seduction30/06/20 02:19 AM
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If all the women you want are not interested, and all the women you don't want are interested in you, that tells you something. You need to work on treating the women you want in the way you treat the ones you don't. You are probably treating the ones you don't like as normal people, and treating the attractive ones differently. You are probably coming off as needy, or putting them on a pedestal, and cock blocking yourself. Next time you see someone you want, tell yourself you aren't interested,…
/r/seduction30/06/20 02:07 AM
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Confidence includes being confident enough to talk about your limitations. But not to make excuses for them!
/r/seduction27/06/20 08:25 AM
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The other point is that , if fractionation worked, you'd be a shitty person no one wants to be around. My two step pickup strategy: Make an interesting life that makes you happy and healthy. Talk to everyone.
/r/seduction24/04/20 08:02 PM
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I'm not telling you how to live our life. If video games are what make you happy, then play them. Most people here want to get better at social interaction, that's why they are reading /r/seduction. Socials skills are all about practice - and it's a lot of hours, not ten or a hundred. How much time did you put into CoD? The problem with games is they are easy. Comfortable. "I can really escape my thoughts". If you stay in your comfort zone, nothing will ever change. If you are ok with that, it's…
/r/seduction21/04/20 11:39 PM
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It did for me. I went from shy to confident. This didn't take weeks, it took years, but less time than you have spent on reddit! :-) The best way to have things to say is to do interesting things. Right now, my conversations are shit, as no one is going out, and I'm doing jack. "What have you been up to?" "Nothing. You?" "Nothing". Even my best friends an i have trouble maintaining a conversation under those conditions. When life returns to normal, do things! Go to a music festival, that will gi…
/r/seduction21/04/20 11:24 PM
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Fractionation is just a bullshit term to used to separate desperate people from their money. Google it and look at some of the results. Endless scrolling pages full of bullshit claims and ridiculous promises aimed at the desperate. BTW, I am a Nigerian prince, and would like to send you some money.
/r/seduction21/04/20 11:16 PM
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On reddit 9 years. Had no idea that was a thing. Thanks!
/r/seduction11/04/20 09:13 PM
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No. Why would you? You don't talk about self help books you are reading with women you are interested in dating. Talking about what you are doing to fix yourself is a losing strategy. It's pretty much only used by people saying "oh, pity me". Just don't. You should be talking about what you are doing in your life, not what's wrong with you.
/r/seduction11/04/20 09:09 PM
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The answer is very simple: Practice. Yes, that's hard right now, but that will pass. It's all about how you spend your time. If you sit at home all day, every day, you won't progress in social skills. Go out. Join groups, clubs, meetups, hikes, dances, sports. Talk to people when you are there. Google things to do in your area. The best ones for "getting started" activities are ones with many new people, and a social component (for example, going out to a lecture isn't as good for social skills …
/r/seduction11/04/20 09:02 PM
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Solid Advice. Commenting so I can find it again.
/r/seduction24/03/20 12:34 AM
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Don't follow! There are some women that you will see that are fantastic, but the logistics won't work. Let her go! Abundance mentality: She doesn't want to talk, move on, in a different direction! Lots of people to talk to. You can say something to someone standing near you, or going the other way, but never turn around and follow, if you don't want the weirdo vibe. If you are still learning, don't keep doing it in one place, like a mall. People hate obvious PUAs. Try doing something interesting…
/r/seduction20/03/20 09:16 PM
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Getting women won't fix your life, but fixing your life will get women.
/r/seduction20/03/20 09:11 PM
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Care to go into more detail on creating compliance? What do you do?
/r/seduction20/03/20 09:10 PM
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I think you are both right. It's easy to get stale, only trying the easy sets, and baling (this is a good way to fail at life, too!). Working to have a good vibe, and trying challenging sets is great. It's also hard to argue with "action always beats theory" and "importance of volume". You don't have to do one or the other. Pick how much you want to emphasize one or the other, and go with it. You should try some tough sets, and he should try more volume some nights. Both good.
/r/seduction20/03/20 09:08 PM
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And everyone’s reactions after? They fucking loved it lol. They gave me props for having the balls to holla, and were so happy for the good laugh. You are playing to your friends, and not the girl. I'm guessing your are in your teens. Most places would fire you for that, if she makes a complaint. No question.
/r/seduction20/03/20 09:03 PM
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This is a major step towards that, so should be celebrated. Only counting 100% successes leads to stagnation.
/r/seduction20/03/20 08:58 PM
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That is actually a great success! You've reached the point where you are looking for someone to be with, not someone to validate you. They don't fit, you can continue looking, it's not a personal rejection. And, because you weren't stressed about it, there's no issue with continuing to talk to the waitress. Female friends are great, they have insights, and suggestions and other friends! You can't sleep with everyone, making friends along the way is a win, too.
/r/seduction20/03/20 08:55 PM
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General response to the comments: This is /r/seduction, not /r/twoxchromosomes. If you have a problem with that, leave. If you have no idea what you are talking about, because you haven't gotten laid in a year, or a lifetime, don't post. This is getting ridiculous.
/r/seduction04/02/20 05:20 AM
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What's your schedule like Never. It says I'm wide open, and gives her no option to say "I'm busy". Sounds desperate. I'd like to take you out on a date I've never liked this. She's probably still deciding. The point of the date is to give you an opportunity to persuade. Have some specific plan. No "food or drink". "I'm going to go see Marcus Miller at the Blue Note on Thursday. You should come. It'll be fantastic. If she doesn't go, go anyway. You have a life, you are offering to share. You are …
/r/seduction04/02/20 05:07 AM
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You are still not there, you are thinking backwards. It's just like a guy who thinks "if only i got laid, I'd have a good life". It's the other way around, get the life get the girls. Same thing for you, build a social life, and the girls will come to it. The girls aren't the key, you are.
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:54 AM
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How to politely let her know that she is entitled for being rude without coming off as a butt hurt 'niceguy' or should anything be said at all? There is no way, because only butt hurt nice guys want to do this. If you can't keep your frame, you aren't ready to approach. how to deal with a terrible rejection Recognize that every interaction is practice on your way to getting good. Go back, see what the cues were that she wasn't approachable. (https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ey691m/100…
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:47 AM
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Can we just ban "poor me" posts? And askseddit is for starter questions. This sub is for posts like this.
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:28 AM
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The mindset of failure
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:23 AM
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No. Compliments that are comparisons are best avoided, both to men and women. Better: "You are wonderful" Even better: "You know what I really love about you? XXX" Where x is something they do. as /u/theytoldmeineedaname says "use specific compliments".
/r/seduction01/02/20 06:23 AM
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There's no weight limit for developing social skills. Get out there. Talk to everyone.
/r/seduction14/12/19 05:40 AM
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6: /r/restofthefuckingowl/
/r/seduction18/11/19 05:19 AM
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If you only talk to girls when you are needy and horny, that's how you will come across. Practice talking to everyone, not just people you are trying to pick up. That will give you the baseline skills to talk to anyone without being fucking awkward. Picking up girls in clubs is not the place to start.
/r/seduction16/11/19 10:41 PM
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Classic Netflix and chill, go for it. tell her Tell her what? Your feelings for her? Generally better to just make a move. But how do you see things continuing? If you just want to get laid, go for it. But if you are interested in relationship, you might want to start when she is back - otherwise, are you dating someone who isn't there for four months? Do you care if she sleeps with someone else while she is gone?
/r/seduction29/12/18 05:52 PM
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Yeah. Practice helps. I just started going out and doing things with people. Sitting at home is no way to meet women.
/r/seduction29/12/18 05:44 PM
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If you ever mention the word "incel", you are never, ever getting laid. Stop that shit. Stop thinking that way. Labeling yourself as a failure is how you stay a failure. Your a guy who is interested in women. Period. this might be my one chance Again, this will cause failure. There a lots of women, you'll meet tons of them. This kind of broken thinking leads to desperation, which leads to failure. Work on inner game, and self confidence. How you think determines your life. Work on it.
/r/seduction29/12/18 05:40 PM
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Best kind to take advantage of. Talk to some more people. You sound totally normal, and sane.
/r/seduction26/12/18 05:38 AM
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I think you care about him, and are trying to make excuses for his behavior. here's another question: would you ever treat someone the way he's treating you?
/r/seduction26/12/18 05:09 AM
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Invite him to something without the groups. Suggest watching something on netflix maybe :-) Also, just for fun, go read some of the "guys, what are the most obvious hints you've missed", so you understand what you are dealing with :-) Here's a start: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/8vi0mu/guys_what_is_the_most_obvious_hint_from_a_girl/
/r/seduction26/12/18 05:05 AM
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He's fucking with your head, and it's working. Maybe I’m just a crazy jealous gf. Yeah, it's working. Go read another article on gaslighting. Maybe also post on /r/relationship_advice. Seriously, read a couple more articles, and see how much you relate to them.
/r/seduction26/12/18 05:00 AM
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It's tinder. Dick around for days/weeks, and you'll burn out her interest. Stop fucking trying to have an online conversation with someone you should be meeting in person. Find something interesting to do, and ask her to go. Or just invite her over. "who’s way out of my league". There's your problem. Forget that crap. She's a person. She likes sex, or she wouldn't be on tinder. Make her happy, give her the opportunity to get laid.
/r/seduction26/12/18 04:56 AM
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Go read up on gaslighting, so you can understand what is happening. Seriously, do it now.
/r/seduction26/12/18 04:46 AM
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Women give out numbers all the time, for any reason from "fascinated" to "want him to go away". Probably didn't get her interested enough. You should behave like any guy who had gotten laid multiple times since you last talked. What do you care if she didn't respond? Abundance mentality. Smile, wave or say hello. Whatever seems right for an acquaintance.
/r/seduction30/11/18 02:27 AM
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Women love being complimented on their boobs - after they have introduced you to them. Talking about them before you've met them is just rude.
/r/seduction28/11/18 05:09 AM
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so I messaged her “what are you up to” followed by a call an hour later. Needy. Do one or the other. If you want to follow up, don't do it the same day. Or have a reason, like an activity to invite her to.
/r/seduction28/11/18 05:06 AM
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Make some female friends, and ask them. I hate that people think that pickup is something you can do when you don't have enough social skills to make friends. Go make friends - and not just women you want to fuck.
/r/seduction28/11/18 05:04 AM
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Totally normal. You will have to initiate.
/r/seduction25/11/18 08:42 AM
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"Hey do you wanna hang out after break" It's not bad, but that doesn't really show any value. But if she's already into you, that may be enough. I usually like to suggest something to do, and invite them along. "I'm going to see X. Want to come along?"
/r/seduction23/11/18 10:15 PM
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If 3/4 of the women head for the VIP tables, then that's what's valued at that club. If you aren't a VIP, you are probably going to have issues. Once they figure it out, they are going to drift away. Try a different venue, or make more money! :-)
/r/seduction23/11/18 10:09 PM
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... and now you understand sales :-)
/r/seduction23/11/18 10:07 PM
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I'd bet you are the 35-55 M, not the 20F, because the 20F wouldn't have to care about how to approach.
/r/seduction23/11/18 10:06 PM
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I would have thought "if I got a 2am text from a girl, she wants to get laid that night".
/r/seduction23/11/18 10:05 PM
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If you are even wasting your time thinking like this, you are never going to get laid.
/r/seduction23/11/18 10:02 PM
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I've paid for her dinner even though she insisted she should pay (because that's how her parents raised her). Well, you are certainly trying to be in a friend zone. Spending money on women does not impress them, it has the opposite effect. There's nothing less seductive than trying to impress a women. Unless you are trying to be a sugar daddy, and have a lot of money. Women take this as He believes he needs to spend money on me to be good enough for me, therefor he doesn't think he's good enough…
/r/seduction23/11/18 06:01 PM
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Try commenting on what's going around you. Have a conversation first.
/r/seduction09/11/18 05:21 AM
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How old will you be in a year and a half if you don't work on it?
/r/seduction09/11/18 05:19 AM
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They aren't likely to be honest. They don't want to deal with the hurt feelings or anger than might follow an honest answer.
/r/seduction09/11/18 05:16 AM
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You are thinking about it wrong, and that is why you fail. The goal is not to get laid, the goal is to interact. What you are doing now is like going to the gym. You don't go to the gym to win today, you go to develop and to grow. Some people literally go to the gym once, look around and say "I'm out of shape", and never come back. They don't know they difference between a contest and a work out. Some people go to the gym and have fun, and eventually get into shape. They develop. Every interacti…
/r/seduction09/11/18 05:10 AM
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LOL! Her> everything you do is according to plan You> But the plan always works I think you might be a bit to obvious that you are doing things the way you do them with lots of girls. That's not a win from the girl's point of view, it says she's replaceable, and not unique. (Worst case; she may also have talked to someone else you have run the routine on. That would make you look like a bit of a clown. That's the issue with routine). I don't think you've blown it. I'm assuming from your level of…
/r/seduction28/10/18 06:24 PM
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Let them know what you are looking for. Usually telling them they can't have a relationship makes them want it more. Don't apologize, don't sound depressed. Just be matter of fact.
/r/seduction01/10/18 01:45 AM
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They are not giving up on you because they want a relationship, they are friend zoning you, because they aren't feeling it. They are just being nice about it. I don't really feel like I'm in a good position to be in a relationship Your mindset is focused on your personal issues, and they can feel it. When you can go on a date where you genuinely want to have fun tonight, instead of "you're not ready for a relationship", you might get somewhere edit:typo, phrasing
/r/seduction30/09/18 11:44 PM
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Last time someone asked me that, I told her I was 12, I just looked mature for my age. It worked. Of course, if they thought I was younger than them, I'd reverse it "I'm 103, I just live well".
/r/seduction30/09/18 11:33 PM
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Stop worrying so much about your feelings. It's a failure mindset. Just do, don't waste time introspecting. I know that if I can somehow render rejection meaningless I know the warm fuzzy types encourage this kind of shit, but just don't. You are just inventing obstacles "If only this, then that". Just fucking do it, forget this crap.
/r/seduction30/09/18 11:32 PM
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Excellent! The one thing I'll suggest (not sure if you did it) is put the same energy into welcoming the guy. It makes you look better to the girl, and two friends can be an introduction to more. Congrats on the number & kiss! Keep up the good work.
/r/seduction30/09/18 11:26 PM
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Start with the easy things. These are events with some structure. Clubs, meetings, anything where they expect new people. Those are easy starters. Parties and such are great, but harder if you haven't developed the skills specific to them. Start easy. Look up things to do on your campus. I googled that for University of Houston, as an example. That led to student activities, which was the right phrase. Find the page like this for your campus: https://ssl.uh.edu/campus-life/student-activities/ind…
/r/seduction30/09/18 11:05 PM
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I've been going at it for two weeks now. Two weeks is nothing. Honestly, I think you are doing great. Reading is a good support, but there's nothing like time in the field. If I connect with a super gorgeous girl/girl I vibe with, I stop gaming Yeah, I have friends you get an interview for their dream job, and stop interviewing. Guess how well that works. Right, not at all. Stop putting them on a pedestal. They are all women. Everybody poops. Treat them like you would anyone else, and THINK abou…
/r/seduction18/09/18 02:31 AM
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We texted for a lil bit and then she stopped replying thats the last time I got a number. I used to do this. Drove me crazy, they'd always drop off. Texting is for logistics, not aimless chatter until she gets bored. Community college is harder; fewer events, more people live at home. Find any on campus events you can, and go to them. (I mean, anything mildly likely to have interesting women).
/r/seduction18/09/18 02:24 AM
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I've been going to conventions for years, and have picked up women there. I don't know that I would these days, it's so hypersensitive. But if you want to do it, the best way is to present value, and let them approach you. You want to meet cute women that cosplay, then bring your A-game, and your A-costume. Women generally hate guys that lurk around and try to get laid. Guys that have passion and have fun, on the other hand, are welcomed.
/r/seduction18/09/18 02:20 AM
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Depends on the college, but many have events that are open to the public (e.g. dances may or may not require student ID). Go the the social events that are open. People there are prequalified as being interested in socializing.
/r/seduction18/09/18 02:16 AM
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Good design? Question mark, because I suck at it, but women always seem to appreciate well decorated places (the kind you see in magazines, or as close as you can get). Clean! Good music. Something interesting for them to come up and see.
/r/seduction18/09/18 02:13 AM
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Go to every event/club/game you can (but not so much that you flunk) Talk to people. Don't worry about picking anyone up, you are laying groundwork, not getting laid tonight. Talk to everyone, men, women, ugly, cute, student, non-student. Women are attracted to men who have a fun, full life. Quit Facebook, skip the video games, hit the gym, the dances, the campus clubs. edit.
/r/seduction18/09/18 01:28 AM
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Ah, yes - the 'Job Interview' style of pickup. How's that working out? More seriously, give to get. You can't just ask a series of questions. You need to put some information out there as well. If she hasn't given you an engaged answer, one that you can build on, after a couple of questions, then you need to say something interesting.
/r/seduction13/09/18 05:13 AM
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This is a good post. This sub used to post a lot of practical, direct, "you need to hear this" advice. It was much better then. Too much "oh, pity me" now. Also a good example of how to promote your stuff properly. A page of solid advice, followed by a link. Add value, then suggest something.
/r/seduction11/09/18 04:02 PM
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No way to know. Ask her to something free - if she then has another excuse, move on. If she says yes, enjoy the date.
/r/seduction25/08/18 04:24 PM
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Escalate. Those are all signs of interest.
/r/seduction25/08/18 04:22 PM
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it has given me something to talk about with tons of women Yes! Go out and do fun stuff, and conversation becomes easy, because you have something to talk about. And it is stuff that is unique to you, not canned, or recycled.
/r/seduction25/08/18 04:20 PM
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There are tons of free dates. And if you take her on one, she'll appreciate your thoughtfulness, and be happy not to worry about money. Go hiking. Go to the beach, Window shop downtown. Google free things to do in your city. This is a great chance to shine. Go for it.
/r/seduction21/08/18 05:59 AM
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Bad post titles are a lot like bad pickup lines. You can tell who's selling something.
/r/seduction13/08/18 01:33 AM
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Sounds like she's interested in a second date. Have good logistics planned.
/r/seduction13/08/18 01:31 AM
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He's right, it sounds like you are paranoid. Paranoid people don't know they are paranoid. Go post a picture to a fashion advice subreddit. They'll tell you if something is off in your style. If your ego is made of stainless steel, go post to /r/roastme, they'll attack any weakness they can find like a pack of rabid honey badgers. that will let you know what people find odd about you.
/r/seduction13/08/18 01:27 AM
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You will never make progress, if the attention you get comes from trying to get pity. So just stop. Now. Nothing but failure comes from that.
/r/seduction13/08/18 01:21 AM
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It's tinder. They know.
/r/seduction13/08/18 01:20 AM
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She then sent me a long "fuck you! I never want to see you again" message about 10 hours later, because I read that text and didn't respond that day. Bullet dodged.
/r/seduction13/08/18 01:19 AM
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Nothing wrong with that.
/r/seduction13/08/18 01:18 AM
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Make friends and work on your life.
/r/seduction08/08/18 07:11 AM
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Now read this again, and try to spot how he's trying to make you feel emotion. Sales and seduction are related.
/r/seduction08/08/18 07:07 AM
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Read up on escalation.
/r/seduction08/08/18 06:56 AM
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Read up on escalation.
/r/seduction08/08/18 06:56 AM
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Hey, you probably made a friend, maybe you can work out again. And beautiful au pairs have beautiful friends.
/r/seduction08/08/18 06:55 AM
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Sidebar this one. (with the clarifications added below).
/r/seduction06/08/18 12:18 AM
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"Men are rational" Bullshit. We're just as emotionally driven, just with different drivers. But you are right about women.
/r/seduction06/08/18 12:13 AM
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I haven't used a therapist. Try it and see it it works for you. Personally, I found that more social interaction resulted in more comfort. So, with or without therapy, go out and do social things. It's a lot easier if you don't put the pressure of pickup on it to start with. Just go out and have fun. /u/coreyrude suggested toastmasters. That's a great, safe place, to practice social skills.
/r/seduction06/08/18 12:08 AM
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Toastmasters is a great way to get more comfortable in social situations. (not a good place for pickup directly, but great for developing basic social skills and comfort).
/r/seduction06/08/18 12:07 AM
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"join your local political party" Hey, that's a suggestion I haven't seen before! nice idea.
/r/seduction06/08/18 12:06 AM
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No. I wouldn't date myself. I don't have large breasts. (thank god). Very few people are looking to date some one with their own characteristics - most of us look for a complement, not a clone. Always good to look inward, and reflect, but this post has nothing to do with seduction.
/r/seduction05/08/18 11:59 PM
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Develop hobbies that involve people. Don't spend time at home, alone. (don't waste time on reddit, video games, etc). Don't waste your time starting with cold pickup, or crap like that. Baby steps. Practice social interaction. Organized group events are great for this. (clubs, meetups, hiking groups, running clubs, book groups). Go regularly. Avoid the standard pickup places (bars, clubs), where you will get immediately judged.
/r/seduction03/08/18 04:19 PM
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Not that that's a bad question, but, if you can't figure out one of 7 things, do the other six. Don't spend too much time thinking, start doing.
/r/seduction03/08/18 04:15 PM
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Then start reading this sub, and start doing.
/r/seduction03/08/18 04:07 PM
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Great stuff! I did some googling, I'd guess this is the "Social Butterfly post OP mentions: Part 1: https://archive.is/6TjKQ Part 2: https://archive.is/cnxZL
/r/seduction03/08/18 03:54 PM
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Like he said, she wants to fell safe, and that she's more than a lay. "I've already had a fantastic night, I don't need you to do anything you don't want to." You are gonna get laid, 90%.
/r/seduction03/08/18 03:44 PM
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If you do activities that involve women, you get to do warm approaches (there's a good post today about music festivals, for example). Way easier than complimenting random strangers. Hence "have an interesting life". Completely cold approaches are hard. I don't use the "walk up and compliment and get a number". Too high failure, too high ghosting on "success". I prefer situational openers, and trying to move into a longer conversation right away. (coffee, nearby bar, etc).
/r/seduction01/08/18 07:25 AM
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Yes, it's challenging with no information. That's why it starts small: weather, sports, current happenings. Generic topics that work for most people. As the conversation progresses you get more of a feel for the other person, you get more information that you can build on for a deeper conversation (or you back away slowly!)
/r/seduction01/08/18 07:14 AM
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It's not that information about texting isn't useful, it's that TEXT is well described in TEXT, putting it into a VIDEO seems makes the information harder to get to. Your video thumbnail is a video of a screenshot of text. Think about how silly that is. Text, converted to an image, then take a video of it. I'm not criticizing the content at all.
/r/seduction31/07/18 02:45 PM
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Why on earth would you do a video on texting? If there's anything that would make no sense as a video, it's text.
/r/seduction31/07/18 05:47 AM
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After you fix the problems.
/r/seduction31/07/18 05:46 AM
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This is why the Mystery Method crap fell out of favor. It's not that it doesn't work, it's that nobody likes a manipulator. Not women, not men. You have to keep finding new venues, because when people start recognizing your routines, you're out of there. Live well, have an interesting life, meet interesting people, and you'll never have to worry about being seen as a creep.
/r/seduction31/07/18 05:21 AM
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Really, your first sentence holds the answer to all of your questions. stop looking for approval and validation from women and man Also good: stopped fapping and deleted social medias and found a job with a hobby i love, And trying to learn a new language. Don't look for someone to make your life good; make your life good, and someone will find you.
/r/seduction31/07/18 05:14 AM
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Reviews are good, let us know what you think about the preview, and the product, if you buy it.
/r/seduction31/07/18 05:03 AM
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I just hate to speak to people about non sense You are confused. Small talk is not nonsense, small talk is about exchanging critical information, before going on to other communication. Conversation has multiple channels of information. (speech cadence, posture, tonality, word choice, topic choice, eye contact, listening skills, etc). The fact that the words are not carrying most of the information does not mean that there is not a LOT of information being exchanged. Missing this fact means you …
/r/seduction31/07/18 04:31 AM
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Rule violation: Commercial Advertisement Seddit is not an advertisement forum, and any information posted should be aimed at helping progress our member's abilities in the arts of seduction. A specific reason why the link is helpful to sedditors should be accompanied in the post or in a comment. Links should be made to actual content, rather than advertising a book or simple a website's homepage. Any blatant advertisement of products that cost money without prior approval from moderators can be …
/r/seduction20/07/18 06:05 AM
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Everyone is selling the "ultimate resource". 90% of them are crap, so that's your odds. I don't know anything about RSD Todd in particular. Find a preview/sample. If it's all "There's a secret", "imagine fucking beautiful women", "won't it be great", then it's crap. If he doesn't have enough information to put some good stuff in the same, he probably doesn't have much information.
/r/seduction20/07/18 06:04 AM
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Secret: Record yourself telling stories, and watch them. Followed by five minutes of unrelated motivational babbling. Then some content. start at 6:27 and miss nothing, get some information about how to make a good presentation, " Think about what you audience wants to see, and present that. Think about what your audience (and women) want other interaction. "
/r/seduction19/07/18 02:58 PM
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He doesn't get paid for a TLDR, he gets paid for views. I think this sub should ban any post that doesn't have value in the post itself.
/r/seduction19/07/18 02:43 AM
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Sorry, this belongs in askSeddit. Just read the rules!! Somebody read the fucking rules? Get this to the front page! :-) Nobody reads the rules. Friends tell me to lie and say i have one of those 6 figure salary jobs. Get better friends. You don't have to talk about you job. Talk about your passions. What would you love to do? Doesn't matter if paid or note. Paint a picture (not a real one, just describe it vividly).
/r/seduction18/07/18 06:32 AM
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I think The Game is popular in part because it is well written, and has a story to it. Neil Strauss is a professional writer; most of the seduction books out there are crap written on a long weekend by people trying to sell you stuff.
/r/seduction16/07/18 04:52 AM
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Careful. It's pretty easy for someone who doesn't appreciate the approach to get you fired. If you are not too attached to the job, go for it.
/r/seduction14/07/18 06:33 PM
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Also, please update us on your progress, so everyone can learn from it.
/r/seduction14/07/18 06:28 PM
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First, congratulations! You made tremendous progress. Remember to think about yourself as a successful person, who has gone from 0, to 90% of where you want to be. You are doing great! It took you 2 years to get here, if you do nothing but what you are doing now, in a couple months you'll be smooth & successful, even without any advice. I'm very sure you'll get to 100%. Pay attention to what works. See if you can spot where things cool down. (Do this after a date, not during, or you won't be pay…
/r/seduction14/07/18 06:27 PM
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How do I just not give a fuck and approach girls on the street, or in a library! Be in the moment. Don't be thinking about the future ("I might get laid!") or the past ("Women hate me"). Expect to have a pleasant conversation. Pay attention to what's going on *now. Be outcome independent. Your happiness does not depend on their approval. You have to not care how it comes out. You talk to them for the conversation. You talk because you expect to have a good conversation.
/r/seduction14/07/18 06:13 PM
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I'm curious how this worked out for you? I would think most women are tired of the obviously bulk DMs.
/r/seduction14/07/18 05:44 PM
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Eh, he says he'll follow up with a report. That could have value. You're not wrong, but this is still better than "come watch my youtube video, where I'll sell you shit". If the mods want to be more active, please delete posts that are only a link.
/r/seduction07/07/18 04:52 PM
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Basic rule: "Win her friends over, first". Being rude to her friends is where cock-blocking was invented!
/r/seduction07/07/18 04:48 PM
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It usually means they do like you, but aren't interested in dating you (at least, not yet). Meeting up with a girl and her friends is a dating goldmine. There's the first girl, all her friends, and the women that see you with a bunch of friend. Not to mention that friends are a good thing in general. If you have the time, do it. If you've got a better options, do that.
/r/seduction07/07/18 04:34 PM
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Thanks for the FR. I'd encourage you to stop assigning a number. It sounds like it's affecting you a bit. It's all just "interesting/not interesting", the rest is details.
/r/seduction07/07/18 04:30 PM
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Think of people you admire. How many of them do you admire because of who they are dating?
/r/seduction07/07/18 04:27 PM
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This is fantastic. confronting and I didn't want to accept what I found but I knew I hadn't gone deep enough until I felt so uncomfortable. Learning to face uncomfortable truths about yourself is key to growth. Good for you! It took a fucking LONG time ...me from 4 months ago LOL
/r/seduction07/07/18 04:27 PM
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Seduction guidelines are guidelines. It's like opening a door for a woman. Most of them like it, a few get offended by it. More women seem to like the "Let's do X" approach", this one doesn't. It's a numbers game. And these things vary by location and time, so adapt, if you get this a lot. There are no "universal" rules. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something.
/r/seduction07/07/18 04:24 PM
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LPT: Never compare women, either directly or indirectly. Not when picking up, not when dating, not when married. That includes the implied comparison of "you're the most beautiful girl in this bar!!" Frequently the girl coming out ahead in the comparison won't thank you, either. Just don't.
/r/seduction07/07/18 04:15 PM
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I think this only works if you are good looking enough that their first, immediate impression of you is favorable. And, as you observed, probably better in a busy club, where people expect to get bumped into, touched, etc.
/r/seduction02/07/18 01:57 AM
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Mods?
/r/seduction02/07/18 01:15 AM
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I approach from behind, grab the waist again Approaching from the back is generally not well received, as is contact before they see you. How is that working for you?
/r/seduction02/07/18 12:38 AM
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You are doing fine. It's a skill, it takes practice to get good. If you are persistent, and pay attention to what works and doesn't (like you seem to be doing), you will do just fine. It does take months of practice to get good, but you'll have fun along the way. By the time you hit college, you'll be a pro.
/r/seduction01/07/18 10:54 PM
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Direct suggestion, "Let's hit blah-blahs tomorrow night, they have a live band". If she takes it, go for it, if not, move on.
/r/seduction01/07/18 10:51 PM
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Easy: Stop watching Netflix and playing Fortnite. Then use the time to do non-boring things. Do things that are interesting, if you want to be an interesting person. Join an amateur sports league , go to a book club, join a hiking group, run a marathon. Google thingi to do in whereyoulive, then go do them.
/r/seduction01/07/18 10:44 PM
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Sounds good.
/r/seduction25/06/18 03:52 AM
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I confessed my feelings Never a good move. Never goes well. Talking about you feelings is fine, but if your mindset is "confess", you are going to get rejected. What's wrong with this: It's about you, not her. What's the pronoun? "I" or "you"? ("You are fascinating" is great. "I think I'm in love with you" is terrible. (unless she's already in love with you, then it's great. As an opener to a relationship discussion, it's terminal crap) It's passive. This is a totally passive move, what's a woma…
/r/seduction25/06/18 02:59 AM
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but is willing to be more than a temptress once she gets serious You are golden. Keep going as you are. Don't spend much time texting. Just enough to set up the next date. She just need some re-assurance that you are actually interested in more than pump-and-dump. Think I should confess my lie when I see her? No. If it comes up, be honest about it. Avoid lying, and you avoid having to answer questions like this. And don't make excuses like this is the future. When asked for motivations, Say it i…
/r/seduction25/06/18 02:44 AM
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Wear an overcoat. Problem solved
/r/seduction05/06/18 02:46 AM
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What did you say?
/r/seduction05/06/18 02:40 AM
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Ok, it's been three months. did you get anything from the course? Did you get laid?
/r/seduction27/05/18 08:34 PM
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Unless you work on an oil rig, there are things to do that involve women. Google "things to do in XXXXX", or check meetup.com, facebook events, etc. Monday night rock climbing. Tuesday night book cloub. Thursday night swing dance, Saturday morning running club, Sunday morning hiking. Casual sports leagues. (ones where it's ok to suck). Geocaching events. Whatever floats your boat. I know you want a GF, but talk to everyone, cute or not, female or not. Friends lead to social life, which leads to …
/r/seduction27/05/18 08:31 PM
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A lot of men treat women they like as special snowflakes, buying drinks, kissing up, having no opinions, following around, etc. They treat the women they aren't attracted to like people. Guess which works better? :-)
/r/seduction14/05/18 02:47 AM
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Treat the girls you are attracted to like you treat the ones you aren't attracted to!
/r/seduction14/05/18 02:16 AM
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Sounds like you went on cruise control. You can work on seduction, which you should do in a relationship. You don't necessarily need to study to do that, you got her in the first place. What did you do in the first place, besides the one line? Do that. Treat her like a woman you are trying to get. Take her out, go to dinner, find an activity, have some fun. Get out of the rut. Show her she turns you on. Make her feel beautiful & desired) Most women like positive surprises. (couples massage, cook…
/r/seduction14/05/18 01:41 AM
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A narcissistic sociopath would never ask that question. That feeling is normal, and many times it's accurate. Assume attraction. (Don't be a dick, but just assume she does like you, and talk to her, if you are interested.)
/r/seduction14/05/18 01:30 AM
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Decide on your priorities. If your current hobbies are more important than dating, you are good. If you want to date, and aren't meeting people, it's time to replace your least favorite hobbies with something better for your long term goals.
/r/seduction14/05/18 01:25 AM
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Nothing more replaceable than an unenthusiastic boyfriend :-)
/r/seduction14/05/18 01:24 AM
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Yeah, dance studios aren't great. Their target demographic is a probably a lot older than yours. Most large cities have a number of dance scenes. Once you find one, you can probably find more. Keep googling!
/r/seduction14/05/18 01:23 AM
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This is /r/seduction, where people come to learn. If they "just knew", they probably wouldn't need to be here. :-)
/r/seduction14/05/18 01:20 AM
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Ok. I've never heard of it, and I've been here for 7 years. I couldn't find it in the first 200 top posts. I see a total of 23 mentions this year. So, in answer to your question, I'd say "no, it's not widely regarded as the best advice on the sub"
/r/seduction10/04/18 03:24 AM
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Nope. Never seen any one mention it, to say nothing of call it the best available. I have to say, this looks like a bad attempt at marketing. Throw out a statement in a question, and see if you can sneak it by.
/r/seduction10/04/18 02:29 AM
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Nothing less helpful than someone that tells you to stop when you make positive steps, because you aren't doing it the way they did.
/r/seduction11/03/18 01:13 AM
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"I'm a motherfucking cyborg" "What happened?" "I was eaten by a shark". Let them see it's ok to talk, or even joke about it How you talk and act about it tells them if you are a cripple, or a guy with cool legs. You can be either.
/r/seduction11/03/18 12:57 AM
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Sounds like you haven't blown it. Continue as you were (with both of them, until (if) you develop a preference.) Abundance!
/r/seduction17/02/18 07:45 AM
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I see lots of attractive girls at college, but most are way out of my league so i don't even consider them https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays/status/4811790555?lang=en "That woman was sexy...Out of your league? Son. Let women figure out why they won't screw you, don't do it for them." So, stop that thinking right now! Just ask if she's single, she can say no Not a great opener. But if your is just to prove that rejection isn't fatal, go for it. Just talk to her. It's college, you are likely to se…
/r/seduction17/02/18 07:35 AM
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I don’t want to blame it on my height, or my race. Thank god. Nothing makes you an incel like blaming all your problems on things you can't control. I'm not saying they don't have an effect, just don't focus on them. Don't waste a second on something you can't change. Millions of short asian guys get laid every day. One of the hottest girls I know is marrying an asian guy, and she's happy about it. She thinks it's a bonus. Many women do. Don't hide behind excuses. God grant us the serenity to ac…
/r/seduction17/02/18 07:14 AM
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Lose the need to justify yourself. I have no reason to lie to you since I am not in a relationship with either you or your friend right now so I am not doing anything wrong take it or leave it It shows you think you are doing something wrong. You are making your bad expectation become real. Abundance mentality, man. Assume they both like you. Just something simple: "Yeah, she's a great lady", then go on as usual.
/r/seduction17/02/18 06:53 AM
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You technically never said you would meet up so I'm gonna let you slide but you owe me one How to guarantee she will never sleep with you. Nothing disgusts women like guys who think they are owed something. Never, ever.
/r/seduction17/02/18 06:44 AM
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Sounds good. She likes you, she's kissed you, so she's probably attracted. Looks like it's already "later tonight". How did it go?
/r/seduction17/02/18 06:42 AM
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Trying too hard. Are you just asking for her number right away? You've signaled your attraction before you've built attraction. Don't do that. Your goal is not to get her number, your goal is to fascinate her.
/r/seduction17/02/18 06:39 AM
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If you run out of conversation after one minute, you need more to say. Be more aware, of them, and the environment. Can you comment on any shared experience? Like "late bus", "bad weather", "interesting tat". Have a few canned stories to tell. You don't have to use them, just being prepared will help you relax. Maybe your openings aren't something the goes anywhere, and you should try some new ones. Things like "you're cute" don't have any natural continuation.
/r/seduction17/02/18 06:35 AM
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Jesus Fucking Christ, if a girl you are interested it expressing that she wants you, go for it. This isn't the language of seduction, this is the language of self sabotage. It's ok for women to want you. Accept it. Expect it.
/r/seduction17/02/18 06:31 AM
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Always pay attention to all the women in a social circle. They'll notice, if you only talk to the cute one, and it will lower your value. And, as you have noticed, some women get jealous. you are doing fine.
/r/seduction17/02/18 06:27 AM
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If you start with this, you will get a lot of people that want to follow you to the promised land. Unfortunately, "follower" was not on your list of things you wanted to be. Go find people that are already doing this, and get to know them. If you want to do it on reddit, reach out to people that are already doing things on /r/financialindependence, /r/getmotivated, or /r/startups Or better still, do it in real life. Talk to people already starting business, or traveling, and learn from them.
/r/seduction03/02/18 05:19 AM
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A few thoughts: I’ve been depressed for so long Talk to a professional? That inner game can mess up your dating. This whole quarter has been geared to finally losing my virginity That doesn't work well. Focus on having a great life. On paper, there’s nothing wrong with me, at least I don’t feel like there is. I don't usually recommend a coach, since most of them aren't that useful. But coaches are good for seeing the things that we don't see. There may be some issue with how you present yourself…
/r/seduction03/02/18 05:12 AM
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If it's something you enjoy, sure. Ask her about a specific time. If she offers another time, take it. If she says "no", let it go, or take someone else. If you have the option, you might ask a group of friends, and invite her to join. (not normal pickup advice, but with this girl, you are doing damage control).
/r/seduction03/02/18 04:55 AM
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Every book tells me to be quick amd act quick Every book on pickup, or every book on relationships? Pickup is about acting fast. Relationships can start slow. Treat them like friends first, not like someone you haven't decided about.
/r/seduction03/02/18 04:52 AM
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You are contradicting yourself. You need to decide what you want, and how you want to be, and do that. Many times I will stumble upon taken girls and they will tell me that so much later because they think I am not hitting on them Why should they tell you, if you "take so much time for me to get attracted"? You want them to figure out, before you know it, that you are a potential dating partner, and save you from wasting your time!? Seriously? Seriously: stop overthinking everything, that's what…
/r/seduction01/02/18 03:16 AM
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i asked when she will be available Don't do this. It's passive, and tries to put her into a corner. If she doesn't want to go out again, or even if she's not sure, you've put her in a place where she either has to lie: "I'm busy until MarchTember Oneteenth", or admit she's open before you have even said where and when. Ask - if she says no, don't ask again right way, and don't beg ("when can I see you?"). Find something interesting a few days later, and ask her to something specific. With a date…
/r/seduction01/02/18 03:08 AM
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It's not luck. It's pure skill. On her part. He got seduced. She planned it and meant to do it. Nothing wrong with that. (quite a lot right, actually!) But don't go looking for what he did to arrange this. He didn't, he just cooperated with her plans.
/r/seduction01/02/18 03:00 AM
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Don't talk forever. Suggest doing something, and get off the phone. If all you do is talk, they'll get bored and stop answering.
/r/seduction01/02/18 02:55 AM
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Yes! Also: do things! People who only think about getting laid are boring as fuck. Be the guy (or girl) that always has something fun to talk about - something interesting you did last weekend. People will be drawn towards you. If you don't have your own ideas (yet), simply go to every college event you can. Can't find enough of those? Google "things to do in MYTOWN", or "events at MYCOLLEGE" Go to anything that makes you happy, and involves people. Raves, Dances, Clubs, Hikes, Runs, Museums. Sh…
/r/seduction01/02/18 02:54 AM
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Watch it, post a review.
/r/seduction01/02/18 02:47 AM
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Here's the way to tell: Are you angry? Then you have lost focus, and should probably just retreat quietly. It won't come across as "putting your foot down", it will come off as "butt hurt". Are you laughing? Feel free to tease, call her on it without getting bothered, etc. No point in lying to yourself. She'll know. This is why inner game matters. To simplify outrageously, there are three possible outcomes: She's a bitch, you kiss ass: friend zone She's a bitch, you get mad: restraining order :-…
/r/seduction01/02/18 02:45 AM
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If you want to, then she's gotten to you, and you are losing frame. Abundance mentality: you don't care if she's not doing what you want, there are many other women to choose from.
/r/seduction01/02/18 02:29 AM
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Horrible idea. If you can't get enough of her attention to stop and talk, she's not interested. Following her will just creep her out.
/r/seduction24/01/18 05:27 AM
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I have yet to find what I am really good at You are thinking incorrectly, and that will trap you. First, you don't "find" what you are good at, you develop it with long hours of practice. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to sell you something. Second, frame things in terms of progress, not failure. "I approached six girls today" is success. "I didn't get laid once" is the same events, described as failure. Third: Learn. Read some. Find people to work if, if you can. Don't spend lots of money.…
/r/seduction24/01/18 05:24 AM
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I'm not talking about IOI's Yes, you are. What do you think that means?
/r/seduction02/12/17 04:47 AM
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I normally don’t date friends or people i have mutual friends with. Why not? I mean, unless you treat them like shit, or something.
/r/seduction02/12/17 04:46 AM
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How subtle you need to be: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/6zqlla/how_can_i_f23_subtly_suggest_sex_emergency/ "I'm also really bad at flirting". That's what this subreddit is for. So, practice. Basics: Smile Laugh Listen Touch him. Don't move away if he moves closer. Think about fucking him while you are looking at him. It will put the right expression on your face.
/r/seduction02/12/17 04:42 AM
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Swing dance.
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:52 PM
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One of the worst lies in pickup is "cold approach is pickup". It's actually one of the hardest ways to do it. So, if you see an opportunity, go for it, but that's not the way you will get laid. Especially not if you are a beginner. Colleges have clubs. Join them. Colleges have activities. Do them. Colleges have dances. Go to them. Go to the same activities regularly, so you meet the same people repeatedly. Talk to everyone (not just the hot girls). Have fun, do it enough get better. Have fun, be…
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:44 PM
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Something you are doing works better than what I'm doing. The successful ones think about what they are DOING. "What did I do today?" "What should I do next?" "Did that work? Yes: do more! No: Do something different." "What can I do better tomorrow?" "Get off their ass and do it" Failures: Think about the past. Compare themselves to others. Sit on their butt. There is a difference between asking a question to develop a skill versus asking to patch a whole in your self worth, elevating you slight…
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:36 PM
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What you should do, is do it again. You'll eventually either get laid, or get good grades :-) Social pickup isn't club pickup, you can take your time, if you will be seeing them again. If getting laid is your goal (you are in /r/seduction), next time suggest somewhere more amenable to pickup. Move to coffee shop next time, your place the next? or, as /u/YouPetroleumJelly, suggest something afterward.
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:17 PM
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Ok, not a speech therapist here, but I don't think boring is a speech issue. I can understand that some aspects of your speech are out of your control, but work on the things that you can. Pacing matters, I don't see how a cleft lip affects that. And is monotone really related to lips? Pitch is from the vocal chords, I think. Is the monotone physical, or just coming from a lack of confidence? And, if course, if you have interesting things to say, you will sound a lot less boring. Everybody has i…
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:12 PM
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I'm sorry, but /r/incels has closed :-) Seriously, though, failures complain about how the world is stacked against them, and elaborate long theories about social interactions and why they don't get laid. It's a mindset that leads to failure. Your post asks for reasons for your failure, not how to improve. This is /r/seduction, it's about how to improve. So, you are you approaching? Where does it go wrong? How do you treat the women you are succeeding with vs. failing with?
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:06 PM
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Goal is to have fun, no mater how the evening ends. Start the night with contact - hug on on the way in, touch as much as is comfortable. Escalate as long as they reciprocate.
/r/seduction23/11/17 05:57 PM
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It's a bit late, how you react can set the tone. If you get uncomfortable, because you feel you are doing something wrong, you are setting the tone for them, and it's going to go badly. If you are happy to see both of them, smile and say "hello", you may get out alive :-) If you don't think it's ok, then you shouldn't be doing it.
/r/seduction23/11/17 05:52 PM
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/r/amiugly This is /r/seduction.
/r/seduction23/11/17 05:37 PM
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Field reports are useful, even if they don't suceed.
/r/seduction19/11/17 07:41 AM
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No, it's not the right place.
/r/seduction19/11/17 07:38 AM
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Talk to them. Listen to them. Give them more focus than you give others. Notice and comment on positive things about them. Invite them you something that's clearly not a group activity. Escalate. Stay happy and confident when you do it, whether she says yes, no or maybe.
/r/seduction19/11/17 07:36 AM
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coed sport league.
/r/seduction19/11/17 07:29 AM
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Why would you send that? Does it lead anywhere? It's a boring, zero-effort statement. Talk about something.
/r/seduction18/11/17 04:27 PM
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I talk to strangers. All the time. I like people. I just don't try to close.
/r/seduction18/11/17 04:20 PM
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If one girl is a bitch, she's a bitch. If every girl is a bitch, it's you. It's either the girls you pick, or something you do.
/r/seduction18/11/17 04:17 PM
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You are in frat. Usually they have events. Go to all of them. It will be uncomfortable. It gets better.
/r/seduction18/11/17 06:20 AM
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Stop worrying about dating for a year, and just make friends. Friends are much less scary.
/r/seduction18/11/17 06:19 AM
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What's the best way to stop getting jealous? Have your own fun. Also, Instagram is like an advertisement for someone's life. The movie is never as good as the trailer.
/r/seduction18/11/17 06:18 AM
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Go to events on campus. They best ones allow for conversation and meet regularly. Have fun, talk to everyone.
/r/seduction18/11/17 02:15 AM
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Hey, if it works, it works. Let us know what approach you took, and how it comes out.
/r/seduction18/11/17 02:12 AM
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It really makes me anger when they doesn't even make the effort to tell me "look, I think this won't work", Yeah, they've learned that angry guys get brutal.You see screenshots of it on reddit all the time. It's safer and easier for them to ghost. Get over yourself. Women fucking hate angry, entitled men. And if you aren't fucking her that night, that may be why they are interested the next day. It is tinder, after all.
/r/seduction18/11/17 02:07 AM
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Bwahaha!
/r/seduction18/11/17 01:56 AM
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The key thing is, women don't mind if you show attraction. You don't have to hide it. Own it. The key to not making it awkward is that YOU don't make it awkward. they are not interested, smile and talk to the next one. Or keep talking to them. Have fun. Never, ever get annoyed about getting turned down.
/r/seduction18/11/17 01:52 AM
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Awesome.
/r/seduction18/11/17 01:48 AM
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You are fine. Plan the logistics Suggest a time, & place. (Burger Joint?) Go for drinks after Take her home Escalate Close
/r/seduction18/11/17 01:45 AM
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What happens if I "go for it" but then it becomes awkward You will be required to shave your head, and become a monk. Then you will be shipped of to Tibet, where, through years of meditation, you will overcome the shame of being rejected. You will spend your declining years, chanting sutras to various gods, praying for forgiveness And eventually be buried in a mass grave of those that are awkward. Hey, I don't make the rules.
/r/seduction18/11/17 01:43 AM
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How I usually approach asking them for a date is after I think I build a rapport with them. I just don't blurt out: "Go out with me!" Understood. But if it's not working, you look for possible issues. Without knowing how you go about it, there's no way for anyone to comment. It could be that you are failing to build the rapport that you think you have. It could be that you are friend zoning yourself, with your approach. It could be that your invite needs work. We can't say, without more to work …
/r/seduction18/11/17 01:38 AM
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OP, I'm going to rip on this post a bit. It's not personal. It's actually trying to help you, and others. But it probably won't. You might want to skip, it gets kind of harsh. It's more for the other people reading it. Every one of these "woe is me" posts sound the same after a while. Doesn't matter if they are short, fat, "beta", "late bloomer", etc. They are all obsessed with their past, and have these huge imaginary obstacles in their path that justify their failures. Look at the post. There'…
/r/seduction18/11/17 01:33 AM
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Oh, look, someone bought some upvotes. Funny how a link to a video with a total clickbait title has so many more upvotes than the average post. Hint: EVERY post that says "every girl" is a)lying to you, and b) trying to sell you something.
/r/seduction18/11/17 12:46 AM
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Try 100, and see if you learn enough that it's worth doing 1000.
/r/seduction18/11/17 12:43 AM
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No enough here to tell. We are getting only your view of what you are doing - and if you knew what you were doing wrong, you wouldn't be here. Can you get a wing, to watch you, and give you feedback? Can you post a conversation of you asking them out? I suspect there may be an issue with how you approach it. Can you talk to a female friend that you are NOT trying to get with, and ask for feedback?
/r/seduction18/11/17 12:41 AM
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Radical. But it just might work!
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:02 AM
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If you have success stories, post them as top level comments, ideally field reports. More people will see them.
/r/seduction14/11/17 05:58 AM
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If you've ever had someone gnaw their arm off to escape the conversation, you may be boring. :-) Don't want to be boring? Do interesting things. It's amazing how much that helps conversation.
/r/seduction14/11/17 05:56 AM
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Hasn't been my experience. Your mileage may vary. Have you tried it? I have.
/r/seduction14/11/17 05:49 AM
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TwoxChromosomes is that way.
/r/seduction14/11/17 05:44 AM
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It's a classic pattern. You are not afraid of women. You are afraid of getting hurt by ones you care about. The only ones that can hurt you are the ones you are interest in. The others aren't scary, because you don't care.
/r/seduction12/11/17 04:54 PM
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It's a life rule: don't pass on opportunities now, because you think you have one in the future. Also: if your date shows up, and some other girl is giving you attention, she'll try really hard to win you back.
/r/seduction12/11/17 04:45 PM
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Just gently escalate. She's asking you for rides home, and looking for validation that she's not a slut. Sounds like ASD. Tell her she's perfectly normal for enjoying sex, then seduce her. Suggest continuing the conversation when you take her home, and see if you get invited in.
/r/seduction12/11/17 04:41 PM
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What the hell is wrong with me You are afraid to get hurt again. Good things always come with risks. Go back and get her number. Maybe spend no more than five minutes planning what you will say, then go do it.
/r/seduction12/11/17 04:34 PM
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it's been hell trying to figure out what the reason is for acting this towards the girls I really like. Fear. The more you do the things that scare you a little, the less they will scare you. Push your limits, and your limits will move.
/r/seduction12/11/17 04:31 PM
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Nothing wrong with not having sex with everyone you meet, but I see a couple of flags: I have yet to meet someone who completely blows me away How do you know, unless you get to know them? if there's no future why bother right You know you can do things we women other than sex, right? And you know you can take women out, and not sleep with them until you are ready? Unreasonable standards are frequently a cover for fear, so you might want to think a little about what you really want. So go make s…
/r/seduction12/11/17 04:27 PM
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My opinion: When ever you want to. (Ok, maybe not first thing in the morning after, but after that).
/r/seduction12/11/17 04:20 PM
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Yep. If it doesn't work, mix it up until you find a combination that does.
/r/seduction12/11/17 08:25 AM
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I understand where you are coming from. Lonely sucks. We can't give advice in a vacuum, so you might want to provide more detail, or head over to /r/relationship_advice
/r/seduction12/11/17 08:24 AM
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It was a very cringe message, considering she is older than me, almost graduating and mostly into girls There's nothing cringe-y about it, unless you make it so. She liked you enough to hook up, end of story. DM'd, talking about the last night and giving my number in case she was around, because I wanted to "talk" to her Too passive. You should have suggested another meet. You left her to text you, without any clear reason why. Other than the dreaded "I want to talk" And everything /u/Ash_Gray27…
/r/seduction12/11/17 08:19 AM
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You are living in a fantasy land to give yourself an excuse to fail. I have to be completely honest "Does my ass look fat?" How's that complete honesty looking? this ideal women might reject me, "Ideal", again with the absolutes. Only a Sith deals in absolutes. Nobody's perfect, everybody poops. No one is completely honest, no one is is a dream women. Some of them are really wonderful, though. :-) Now, you have a view of pickup that suggests you read a lot of women's magazines. Negative & distor…
/r/seduction12/11/17 08:12 AM
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I wouldn't ask, just "see you tomorrow at five"
/r/seduction11/11/17 05:52 AM
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Have you considered volunteering? If you are helping someone, they are likely to be much less judgmental. Local food pantry, Meals on wheels, habitat for humanity, anything where you are helping and interacting with others. Plenty of practice socializing, while adding value to the world.
/r/seduction11/11/17 05:49 AM
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Do you have anything interesting to talk about? If not, go do some interesting things, then talk to women. It goes a lot better. And you think about them all the time because 1) you are a man, and 2) you don't have anything else to think about. Get the fuck off reddit and go out
/r/seduction02/11/17 03:50 AM
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Avoid "like" and "attractive". "You are fun to hang out with" works fine.
/r/seduction02/11/17 03:46 AM
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Be happy. When I try to smile, I looked like a demented leprechaun. So I don't try. Lots of people can't smile on command, and people can tell they are faking, that's what makes it creepy. Do things that you enjoy. Get a real smile, it works so much better.
/r/seduction02/11/17 03:43 AM
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I fart for the amusement of others. #beta
/r/seduction02/11/17 03:40 AM
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She sounds like she's doing her job, and being nice about it. Why look for problems? It's amazing how much better life gets if you assume people like you.
/r/seduction01/11/17 04:59 AM
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Clean up, Before she comes over. Even if it's his mess. Women like clean.
/r/seduction31/10/17 05:36 AM
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You don't have to have a conversation in the first five minutes. You can have talk more over many days. You have lockers together. Engage and disengage. Say something short, and not dramatic, and head to class. Repeat. Remember: abundance mentality! You'll talk to her many times. Say "good morning". If she's reading a book now, ask what she thinks about it. Do not: by asking if she reads a lot of classic literature Would you ask that, if you hadn't been watching her? Of course not, so now, she t…
/r/seduction31/10/17 05:31 AM
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High school, it sounds like. Rules are different.
/r/seduction31/10/17 05:22 AM
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You are in college. You don't need to start with cold approaches. Cold approaches are hard. Go to events at the college, talk to people at the events. Join clubs. Talk to people about the clubs. Talk to everyone, not just attractive women. Practice until comfortable. When you are not doing this, go out and have some fun, so you have something to talk about (hike, bike, parachute, paint, perform, travel)
/r/seduction31/10/17 05:20 AM
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I'm not ashamed to admit it Self acceptance: check! :) I just really wAnt to show her that today was not the most accurate depiction of who I am. Show her that you can laugh at yourself, and don't take life to seriously. Come back with field reports when you can. I think you'll do great.
/r/seduction31/10/17 05:14 AM
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how do I stop obsessing over the fact that my new girlfriend is a virgin? Talk to her? Get to know her better, what she wants, who she is. Want to be remembered? Be a great person to be with. Get your life in order. Do cool things, be a great person. If you want her because she's a virgin, how are you going to feel about her the morning after? If you don't know, or the answer isn't good, then be a decent human being, and just don't. Why are you obsessing? I don't know. But "insecure" comes to mi…
/r/seduction31/10/17 04:59 AM
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There are lots of ways to pickup women. Don't like negging? Don't. There are some parts of pickup that are pretty non-negotiable, like "actually talk to women", and "stop reading about seduction, and get out of the house". Negging is not one of these things. Go read "Models". It sounds like all you've read is the game.
/r/seduction31/10/17 04:43 AM
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I recommend the fine volume "Get the fuck out of the house and talk to girls now". It's excellent.
/r/seduction31/10/17 04:11 AM
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also, don't assume you have blown it. Women are surprisingly tolerant of a lot of things, if you don't take them to serious. You are doing fine. For others: 1) Don't get mad at her 2) Don't get mad at yourself. Life's a game, have fun playing.
/r/seduction31/10/17 04:03 AM
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You know, if you can laugh at yourself, you're doing fine. Everyone chokes sometimes, everyone freezes someday. If you can laugh about it, you can get back in the game with a smile on your face. That's how you win.
/r/seduction31/10/17 04:02 AM
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No, focus on getting your shit together, and improving yourself.
/r/seduction31/10/17 04:00 AM
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Of course, I just mean having fun is contagious, so have a lot, be yourself. It's fine to go alone.
/r/seduction28/10/17 02:55 AM
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If you go alone, be this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8z7f7a2Pk
/r/seduction28/10/17 02:47 AM
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Muscle helps, but that's not the reason to go. The mental effects are even more important. Your body is designed to exercise. If you don't, it will fuck you up. It's like leaving your car parked in the garage for years. Work out. It doesn't matter much, if weights, running, dancing, or having ridiculous amounts of sex. Exercise is good for your brain.
/r/seduction28/10/17 02:38 AM
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Am I the only one who finds quality girls to be so damn rare Women say the same think about men. Are you one of the 1 or 2 quality men they meet? Forget the pickup shit, and work on building a good life. You'll meet better women, and you'll be a better man. Pick up and this lifestyle in general is made to look so freakin perfect and majestic in youtube videos That's because they are selling you shit. You aren't dumb enough to believe ads, are you?
/r/seduction28/10/17 02:36 AM
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Like you are being intentionally secretive about wanting to fuck them? If you think about it, you are doing exactly what you think they are doing. That's probably why you assume that's what they are doing. So, be more honest. Be more flirtatious. Ask them to events that are solo, and seductive, not group events. Tell her she's beautiful. Have confidence. Maybe they are not telling you, as they want to leave it open for you to make a move. So, make it.
/r/seduction28/10/17 02:16 AM
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Work on yourself. It always pays off.
/r/seduction28/10/17 02:02 AM
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Many people have friends of both sexes. It's normal. Why are you waiting weeks to tell them you want some more? If you have no interest in them, other than seduction, you should be escalating way faster than "weeks". Guys with female friends tend to get laid more. Not necessarily by these women, but they have friends, and you'll have social proof.
/r/seduction28/10/17 01:36 AM
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Forget the age gap. Mentioning it is a likely turn off. She's already interested. Plan your logistics (where will you take her for privacy? Is your room clean? Out of condoms?) Meet her, maybe bounce to one or two places (where?), and take her home. You've got this.
/r/seduction19/10/17 04:46 PM
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1) Bragging is not real life. 2) Practice, practice, practice. College have tons of activities designed to give you a chance to get to know people. Take advantage of them. Picking a random school: http://www.ucla.edu/campus-life/clubs-organizations-and-recreation Don't start with the "pickup girls" mindset. Start with "learn to talk to everyone". Once you get that, the transition to getting to know them better isn't hard.
/r/seduction19/10/17 04:43 PM
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Disney and our moms taught us. Nothing screws up men in this country like trying to learn relationships from movies. Just don't. Most chick flicks are about some already qualified guy proving his love for a women. ("50 Shades" features a billionaire model, IIRC). Women dream about being pursued by a guy they already want. Totally irrelevant, for convincing a girl to be interested in you in the first place. Don't take advice from movies, magazines, and anything targeted at women. Women's fantasie…
/r/seduction19/10/17 04:40 PM
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Move on, dude.
/r/seduction27/09/17 02:39 AM
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It's not awkward unless you make it awkward. Make the invitations casual, and don't show any disappointment if they say "no". Like /u/NunoHimself says, invite people to events - if they like you, you can escalate and isolate. If you don't come, you were just being sociable and inviting people along.
/r/seduction27/09/17 02:37 AM
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How do you move from them follower to date?
/r/seduction27/09/17 02:24 AM
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Does talking to you make her happy? Make her excited? Make her laugh. Make her want to do things that you have already done (like travel, sky dive, etc)? Many people try to come up with some mysterious phrases that will magically remove her panties. Nice idea, hard to do. Be an interesting person with an interesting life, and she'll want to talk to you.
/r/seduction27/09/17 02:19 AM
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He's likely interested, but too shy to put himself out there directly. If you are interested, you can help him out. Joke back, flirt. Let him know it's ok.
/r/seduction27/09/17 02:06 AM
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Why the hell is this in /r/seduction?
/r/seduction20/09/17 05:04 AM
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Self and social circle pay off long term, regardless of how you do with women, and they usually help a lot with women. If you feel you want to stretch more, add a new thing, tinder, dancing, a new hobby. But don't feel you have to do everything at once.
/r/seduction19/09/17 01:18 AM
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If you are very careful, nothing bad, or good, will ever happen to you;
/r/seduction19/09/17 01:13 AM
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Amazon has so many of these books. I think you are looking for the wrong kind of books, though.
/r/seduction19/09/17 12:18 AM
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Yeah, if you haven't been social for a while, then getting out and practicing social skills can be a good first step before working pickup. It'll help you lose any "creepy" vibe you might have picked up. Also, college is way better than high school, I think. High school has so many cliques and rules - you are likely to be labelled "creepy" just for talking to a girl that thinks she's out of your league. College shakes that up, and people are much more open.
/r/seduction19/09/17 12:13 AM
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Many people assume monogamy based on behavior. If you want to not leave pissed off women behind, you might want to be explicit about your relationship. It sounds like you know they would be upset, your call how you want to deal with that.
/r/seduction19/09/17 12:07 AM
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Yeah, never say that out loud. If she hears it, you are over. With her, and anyone she knows. She's single. That's the part you want to talk about.
/r/seduction19/09/17 12:05 AM
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Am I on the right track? Yes. Let me assure you that persistence beats perfection. I mean, any level of self-improvement you can sustain is going beat trying to do everything. There is always more you can do, but you can't do it all. So, keep working on sustainable self improvement. If you can do that, you'll leave most people in the dust, and have a great life.
/r/seduction19/09/17 12:03 AM
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I think men do care more about looks than women do. But I don't think most men are obsessed with airbrushed perfection the way women's magazines are. "Pretty attractive" sounds pretty good to me.
/r/seduction17/09/17 09:37 PM
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Yeah, Mick Jagger never would get laid, except for his brute, 74 year old strength. That singing shit doesn't matter. Your problem is your victim attitude. You blame your failures on things you can't control, so you don't have to take responsibility for them. And then you get mad that you are stuck. We see this here all the time. And, until you fix the attitude, nothing will change. Take responsibility for your own success or failure. A "talented illustrator, writer, singer, and actor" should ha…
/r/seduction17/09/17 09:25 PM
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Could be bad sex, could just be she wanted a quick no strings fuck. the nut score was me: 2 her:0 The score should be her: 1 before you get inside her. Or at least help her out after.
/r/seduction17/09/17 09:17 PM
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Don't kill the attraction with things like "How was your night". Move things straight to meeting up in the real world. That will convey the interest just fine. To be clear: the suggestion of meeting up should be in the first handful of messages. Don't talk for an hour, building up your courage. You'll lose her attention. Just go straight to suggestion something specific (not: 'do you want to do something', but rather: "I'm going to see a cool live band at the BarName this friday. You should come…
/r/seduction17/09/17 09:12 PM
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/r/seduction17/09/17 09:09 PM
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It sounds like you have know idea how to do a cold approach. So don't. College is the best place for warm approaches ever. Join club, sports that involve women, group activities of any sort. Hang out with friends, and their friends. Talk to people. All people. Then, when you get a good vibe of someone, ask them to do something. Don't just ask for a number. Ask them to go somewhere (your room, if that works) and do something.
/r/seduction17/09/17 09:08 PM
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You are not alone.
/r/seduction17/09/17 09:04 PM
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1 & 2 yes, 3 no.
/r/seduction17/09/17 09:03 PM
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On the men can be oblivious thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/54b7xx/guys_of_reddit_whats_the_most_obvious_hint_from_a/
/r/seduction17/09/17 08:58 PM
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Just like women, all men are different. But your perception that you can lessen your value if you initiate is true, in some cases. A lot of pickup for men is how to open without lowering value. (Value lowering: "You sure are beautiful". Terrible opener) I think most men are Ok with women opening, but some may not be. A simple alternative would be to just open the conversation with something less direct (nothing about attraction) - just let them know it's ok to talk to you. Opening the conversati…
/r/seduction17/09/17 08:54 PM
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If you're bad but have a good attitude about it, Exactly right!
/r/seduction16/09/17 06:54 PM
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The fact of the matter is that no matter how many women are in my life, no matter how much sex I have, I will always find something to be depressed or miserable about. Right insight, but wrong conclusion. How to you go from that, to "now I can fuck women, yay!"? How about, "now I can concentrate on making myself happy?"
/r/seduction16/09/17 06:53 PM
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That's not logistics.
/r/seduction16/09/17 06:50 PM
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Just wondering has anyone had this kind of experience before? Really common. There's a lot of conditioning in our society that showing interest in women is bad, or creepy.You are far from alone in this feeling. You just need to unlearn that. People talk to strangers, People date, people have sex, it's all cool. It's only creepy if you are only thinking about what you want. Meeting new friends to find out if they are someone you can be friends with, or fuck the hell out of, is totally fine. At ot…
/r/seduction16/09/17 06:49 PM
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1) Practice, practice, practice. 2) Try different things 3) Pay attention to how people respond 4) Refine, repeat Watch how other people join groups. See what approaches work. Some of it is timing - harder to talk to women who are turned in, and focused on something. Picking a good time to approach helps.
/r/seduction16/09/17 06:40 PM
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She's not interested, so you can't "keep her interested". Absolutely the best thing you can do to get this girl, is go date other girls. Absolutely the best thing you can do for yourself now, is go date other girls. Pick one :-)
/r/seduction16/09/17 06:36 PM
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Nice. Dance with everyone, get to know everyone. It'll give you confidence, and a social network. (and a place to take girls you meet other places).
/r/seduction13/09/17 03:53 AM
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That's exactly the right amount of subtlety for a 23 year old man.
/r/seduction13/09/17 03:46 AM
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I've been in love with for the past couple of weeks No, you haven't. And thinking like this is how you make sure you never get her. You hold frame by losing the fantasy that you've constructed in your head, and think about her as just another person. Do you want fantasy or reality. Choose.
/r/seduction13/09/17 03:45 AM
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Stop lying and not paying people back, and they will eventually get over it. Keep doing it, and they won't. Your choice.
/r/seduction12/09/17 04:47 AM
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how can I NOT be the creepy older guy At 20? Stay away from middle school. :-) Anyone at college is YOUR AGE. The difference is minimal. Just stop thinking about it. You are inventing a bunch of shit to feel bad about: Everyone knows that the 20 year old intern isn't taken seriously unless they are the children of the CEO. People who think like this are never taken seriously. Get over your jealousy and insecurity, and stop trying to pretend it's in the world, when it's in your head. Stop overthi…
/r/seduction10/09/17 03:09 PM
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After the date she told me that she wants to have feelings for me but can't force them, and she would be really sad to lose me because she cares about me Continue to date other girls. Feel free to ask her for advice about other girls. Hang with her when/if you fee like it. Escalate if you are in the mood, accept it with a smile, like it doesn't matter, if she says no. Basically, abundance mentality.
/r/seduction10/09/17 03:01 PM
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If it happens, just laugh it off, and go down on her. Do NOT make a big deal out of it.
/r/seduction10/09/17 06:02 AM
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Dude, you need more help that you can get from anonymous strangers on the net. If you are in college, they usually have help available. Give it a shot. The fact that you are trying, at all, makes be believe you can get through this. Hang in there.
/r/seduction10/09/17 06:00 AM
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Context to answer the question in a way that is relevant for OP.
/r/seduction10/09/17 05:56 AM
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No, just make sure the humor isn't all self-deprecating, and leaking insecurity. Funny guys do get laid.
/r/seduction10/09/17 05:55 AM
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Take a moment and read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/6cy7ii/the_girl_is_not_the_goal_the_goal_is_to_become_a/
/r/seduction10/09/17 05:48 AM
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Yes, and well done.
/r/seduction10/09/17 05:42 AM
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Text is for setting up dates. Chat with her until she's bored, and, well, she's bored.
/r/seduction10/09/17 05:40 AM
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College is dry for some people, including me. I'm doing fine now. If you are in a freaky college where everyone pairs off, you may be fucked, or rather, not fucked. Has nothing to do with you. (Where are you? BYU?) Work on social game for a while, pull friends. Doesn't matter if men, women. It will make you feel better. Do cool stuff. Lay groundwork. Do off campus activities if there are ones. Find people that aren't paired off. If everyone sees you are non-sexual, you are probably being too saf…
/r/seduction10/09/17 05:36 AM
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Then go fuck one you don't live with. This is stupid, and will likely result in hassles. Go find a cougar. It won't be hard.
/r/seduction10/09/17 05:31 AM
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At the very simplest level: Bad boy: Doesn't look to others for approval. Nice guy: Looks for approval from the women he dates. You don't have to be a jerk, at all, to get in the first category.
/r/seduction10/09/17 05:28 AM
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I'm 22 m tall So, 72 feet? :-)
/r/seduction10/09/17 05:25 AM
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How bad is the damage? You are doing just fine. Women don't ask that question if they aren't interested. She's letting you know it's ok to make a move. Do it. I simply told her that I'm new to this dating thing and that I simply wanted to respect her boundaries. Good. But as /u/otMyBestEffort said, those are yours, not hers, or she wouldn't be asking. Told her I was ashamed that she even had to mention it Skip the self criticism, permanently. It helps no-one. She wants more physical contact. Giv…
/r/seduction10/09/17 05:23 AM
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Keep the reports coming! Of course I am wondering what happened to Sets 1-5. Less than two minutes? Would still have value as examples, too
/r/seduction08/09/17 11:36 PM
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Seddit needs more infield break downs, less crying about problems. Amen!
/r/seduction08/09/17 11:33 PM
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Stop making excuses for your failure. Get the fuck up and approach. You can do it.
/r/seduction08/09/17 11:27 PM
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If you are getting responses, but no dates, it's your text game. General wisdom is text is for closing to date, not for getting to know her. If you keep texting too long, they lose interest. The first conversation is to set up a meeting. If you are getting dates, but not getting laid, post a field report, there's not enough information here to comment.
/r/seduction08/09/17 11:15 PM
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I don't think anyone will be bothered. If anyone asks, make something ridiculous up: "Apparently you are not supposed to flip off a grizzly bear". "It was a tragic masturbation accident". "I can now flip anyone off, and they can't see it." It really won't affect you.
/r/seduction08/09/17 11:08 PM
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And remember, you are the kind of guy that "smoking hot" girls hit on. Own it!
/r/seduction08/09/17 11:00 PM
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You don't. It's not a rational argument, you can't talk someone out of it. In popular media, pickup has been associated with /r/niceguys or /r/TheRedPill When you talk about this with women, they associate pickup / seduction with every uncomfortable approach / assault they have had to deal with in their life (and I don't know any women who haven't had to deal with this). So, they have a lifetime of anger built up. There is NOTHING you can say that will match this in intensity. So, talk about oth…
/r/seduction08/09/17 09:50 PM
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Or work on having a good, sociable life. Do things you are passionate about, that you can share with others. (Hiking, running, making music) Anything: 1) You find fun 2) You do it with others. Do lots, and talk to everyone.
/r/seduction08/09/17 09:41 PM
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Just not when the spotlight is on me. I never do well when the attention is all on me. Self-esteem, maybe? Can't believe someone is interested in you? Or maybe that you are relying on routines (not necessarily canned stuff, but general progressions), and she through you off script. My suggestion would be run through some of these kind of scenarios in your head. Have some canned responses prepared. /u/NTSpike has one approach that sounds good. Run through this in your head (ONCE, not obsessively)…
/r/seduction08/09/17 09:38 PM
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Like anything else, it's a factor, not a disqualification. Probably more a a (logistics) problem is living with your parents. If it comes up, "What do you do?", don't answer with "unemployed", answer with what steps you are taking to reach your goals. (Hey, you are taking steps to reach your goals, right? Move on that stuff, every day). Being unemployed may give you more time to plan activities, and explore fun things to share. Use that time, stay off the internet, limit computer games. Come acr…
/r/seduction07/09/17 03:42 AM
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The other commenters have good points. Let me add: "Hey , its from bio :) What answer were you expecting? That doesn't really call for a response. What do women do, when they don't know how to respond? They don't answer. Check the sidebar for text game ideas.
/r/seduction07/09/17 03:36 AM
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If your goal is to get laid by this person, it can seem like a waste. If your goal is self improvement, then every interaction is a learning experience, and you gain from it. But what if that guy spent so much time building up the courage to talk to her/ask her out or ask her number? Think how much he has gained. He's proved he has courage, he's demonstrated that failure won't kill him. He's proved he can approach new women, so this one isn't the only fish in the sea. He's practiced, which is RE…
/r/seduction07/09/17 03:29 AM
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If you are a student there, go to social events, where people are expected to approach.
/r/seduction05/09/17 03:34 AM
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Escalate gently. And take the fucking hints. my girl insisted on staying at my place All good. she said she could feel comfortable being being with a bra and underpants next to me. I do believe this was a hint. With a two by four. "Are you wearing something nice now? Show me." Say it nice and relaxed. "Would you be more comfortable if I i undressed?" had a moment which I'm not sure if it was weird or she was waiting for me to kiss her. Well, next time, fucking kiss her, and find out. She hasn't …
/r/seduction04/09/17 07:34 PM
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You forgot "approach"
/r/seduction04/09/17 07:25 PM
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Why are you posting this to /r/seduction? Go over to /r/socialmedia. They also link to lots of other subreddits There are literally hundreds of books on this, and way more online This WON'T help you with your social life, or with getting laid. Social media is about faking a social life, not having one. People who are giving you the answers you don't want to hear are trying to help. You should consider listening. Build a Social media presence can be a fine business. It's not a social life. You se…
/r/seduction04/09/17 07:16 PM
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Please. The cool kids are on MySpace.
/r/seduction04/09/17 06:58 PM
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Do you get good result from Facebook contacts? I always have preferred phone.
/r/seduction04/09/17 06:56 PM
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Referencing this, I believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fla-QobHzwg
/r/seduction04/09/17 06:33 AM
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Yeah, making a fool of yourself is not a big deal, really. Unless you make it one. If something goes wrong, laugh about it. Can't get it up? Smile and lick her. Show cancelled? Find a restaurant. You get nervous? Say "I get nervous, sometimes. But I'm having a good time". Then smile at her. Don't make it her problem, and it won't be a problem.
/r/seduction04/09/17 06:30 AM
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The big thing is to not make it a big thing. Don't talk about depression, anxiety or virginity. (the last you can talk about, in bed, if you feel you need to). Don't think about her as "the one", she's a friend, and there may be benefits. Stay chill. Go, have fun, don't stress about it. It'll be fine. Now, on the other hand: Logistics! If you do end up taking her home, are you ready? House clean? Sheets washed? Bed made? Music/netflix set up and ready to go. Got condoms? (Do you know how to put …
/r/seduction04/09/17 06:25 AM
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Does it sound like a hobby that, if someone else started talking about it, you'd go "cool, tell me more", or "excuse me, I have to leave now."
/r/seduction04/09/17 01:22 AM
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They all count as hobbies, but unless you can find a way to include people in them, they aren't hobbies that will make you new friends, or make you more interesting. e..g if you go to Lego conventions, go Lego Meetups and put on shows of your art, sure. if you mean stay at home, and build your star destroyer, that won't build social credit, as you won't meet anyone, can't share it with anyone, no one sees it. No invalid, but connect with people. Making puzzles also sounds very solitary. There ar…
/r/seduction04/09/17 01:20 AM
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If you do it right. ;-)
/r/seduction04/09/17 12:51 AM
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Find things you like to do, that other people are interested in. This does not include anything that's just designed to be a time suck (e.g. video games, television, reddit). Get those out of your life (yes, I'm working on that, too). Look for events in your area. Checkout meetup.com. Ask people what there favorite thing to do is. (Bonus: invite them to do it). Travel, go to museums, take up MMA, learn to dance, take a singing class. Anything live, and intereactive. Go through the categories in …
/r/seduction04/09/17 12:49 AM
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Pay attention to her. How is she reacting? Listen to her breathing. How has it changed? Think about how you react, when someone does something that feels good. Find what does that for her. It's not a recipe that you do, over and over, without change. It's exploring a new girl, and finding out what works for her.
/r/seduction04/09/17 12:39 AM
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No. One book is enough. I recommend going out at having fun, and building a cool life. It's the one pickup technique, that, even if it doesn't work, you still win.
/r/seduction04/09/17 12:15 AM
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people say women love a man with high social status. They do. The also love big muscles, humor, nice butts, witty conversation, creativity and thousands of other things (all of which vary from woman to woman). You just have to bring something to the party. You can do without just about anything, on any list of desirable features - as long as you have something going for you. Lots of people without some or all of that list get laid every day. They just have their own benefits. The majority of peo…
/r/seduction03/09/17 11:50 PM
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Reddit is a multitude. The advice you get comes from thousands of different people, so it represents thousands of different viewpoints. Some are angry, some are happy, some are sad, and most of them are answering your question as if it were asked about them, not you. And, the cold reality is, the less time they spend with women, the more time they have to spend on reddit. What can you really take away from the noise? People are very different. This applies to women, too. Paying attention to your…
/r/seduction05/08/17 01:22 AM
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Go to as many events as possible in college. Going regularly to the same events makes it easier to make friends. Friends make it easier to get dates. Talk to everyone, until you can talk to everyone the same.
/r/seduction04/08/17 05:53 AM
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It sounds like she still has the boyfriend. She is into you. Then she remembers she has a boyfriend and shouldn't be doing this, and bails on you. If you are ok with that, you can escalate.
/r/seduction04/08/17 05:50 AM
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Just do it. She's interested. Just forget your age, and she will too.
/r/seduction11/06/17 08:20 AM
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You can't make any blanket statements, because it's the girls reaction to you. It's very common for guys to treat 5s and 8s differently, so it may be your behavior. Or it may be that the 8s think you are in their league, and the 5s think you aren't.
/r/seduction11/06/17 08:17 AM
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Text her when you want to set up seeing her again. Don't overthink it.
/r/seduction11/06/17 02:22 AM
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"But to hunt a dragon, I need a fair maiden!"
/r/seduction11/06/17 02:19 AM
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Move on. She could just be shy, but when she gets into the "What if I'm just busy" when you already know that's not the issue, you know she's just blowing smoke.
/r/seduction11/06/17 02:18 AM
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Fake it until you make it. Act like you have a string of ladies just waiting for you.
/r/seduction11/06/17 02:15 AM
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Seriously, dude, just no. You have so many insecurities, and you are going to try cold pickup in a non-dating venue as a starting point!? I know a lot of shitty people that teach pickup classes suggest that. But it's bad advice. Go do something social, build the skills and confidence there, before you try cold pickup. It's hard for me to spot a woman and try and get her to wink at me first. It does happen at times but if I make that a requirement there won't be many opportunities. Are these appr…
/r/seduction11/06/17 02:11 AM
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Stop labeling yourself, it's part of your problem. Just do it, stop making excuses. Commit to yourself now, that, whatever comes up, you will do it, next time. No thinking about it, no asking yourself if you are "too beta." Just fucking do it. Plan it with yourself. Go over it with yourself, so when it comes up, you just do it.
/r/seduction11/06/17 01:55 AM
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Do more fun things, it gives you something to talk about.
/r/seduction11/06/17 01:50 AM
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"Because I'm really horny and looking for fun." does sound like a bot. It's not what women say, it's what horny guys like to hear. But your Tinder game sucks (I think there's a sub for that). But you are generic "how are you", and passive "why me" "me, too". Add some character to your responses. And, yes, it might make sense to do something other than Tinder, if it's not working for you. Build an interesting life, hit the gym, get hobbies, have fun meet people.
/r/seduction11/06/17 01:44 AM
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If drinking helped, you would not be in this situation :-) So skip the inebriation. Seriously, I doubt anyone will remember. The person that is embarrassed is usually the only one that thinks it was important. Just let it go. We all fuck up. Nobody died. You are fine. If it comes up, just smile and say "yeah, I was a bit drunk then.". If she brings it up, don't deny it, don't be embarrassed, own it. DO NOT SAY THE OVERBLOWN HOLLYWOOD CRAP like "i need you", "the sun rises and sets" and other "RU…
/r/seduction11/06/17 01:38 AM
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Before the first date? I don't usually have enough attraction to do that before the first date. If I did, we'd be in bed already. How do you work up to that? During texting?
/r/seduction11/06/17 01:25 AM
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I've found that this sort of thing goes over people's heads. Everything is so technical at those competitions. Like figure skating. It's not the technique that gets you laid, it's the entire crowd looking up to you, it's publicly being the best. Women love that, don't matter in what. Also, most women have a Cinderella at the ball fantasy.
/r/seduction11/06/17 01:19 AM
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I don't think he means it in the sense of "humiliate yourself", i.e. the bad kind of embarrassment. I think he's more talking about the good kind, do the fun things that society tells you not to do, so you will fit in. Do things like Laugh too loud Do something you want to do, even if you will look foolish Try something, even if you'll be embarrassed if you fail Be larger than life, when everyone else is blending in
/r/seduction11/06/17 01:16 AM
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Avoid the studios more than avoid the dances. Some of them are like piranhas. If you are just having casual fun, social dance places are better. If you stick at it enough to win competitions, it's pretty good social proof. But you probably still won't get laid as much as the guy going salsa dancing every Saturday.
/r/seduction08/06/17 06:10 AM
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I refuse to space out during sex just so I don't come faster Bwahaha. Good luck on lasting your first time. (not saying it's not possible, just not likely). What utensils might be useful to have in my room Condoms. Get extras. Practice putting them on your dick. Embarrassing to put them on backwards. Worse to run out. Lube. Probably won't need it, but just in case. (water based, so it doesn't wreck the condom) If anything goes wrong (like you come in ten seconds, can't get it up). Just fucking s…
/r/seduction08/06/17 06:05 AM
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talking to people is only step 1. Yes, but some people miss that step.
/r/seduction08/06/17 05:55 AM
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Daily: You must be talking to people. Guys. Girls. Nanna. Dogs. Cats. Anyone. Just thought it needed to be repeated. Do this.
/r/seduction08/06/17 05:54 AM
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Peacocking is being willing to draw attention to yourself by standing out. It shows confidence - but you have to back it up with confidence. The more outrageous your outfit, the more you have to be certain that you are worth the attention. It is not "wearing odd clothing and feeling awkward". If you can't own it, don't do it.
/r/seduction08/06/17 05:50 AM
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Pro-tip: Tripods are cheap, and will dramatically improve your videos.
/r/seduction08/06/17 05:47 AM
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Have an amazing life, and they will find you. Or get over your shyness, and approach. Nobody wants to do the approach, but doing the approach give you more control, not less.
/r/seduction08/06/17 05:44 AM
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Toastmasters. Do it now.
/r/seduction08/06/17 05:34 AM
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Girl is looking for someone strong enough to stand up to her. Do you want to do the work of holding frame while someone tries to shake you? Do you want to fuck her enough to put up with her personality? Answer the above, and you'll know what you want to do. What other people would do is not relevant.
/r/seduction04/06/17 10:50 PM
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Which no one has read for the last two years. :-(
/r/seduction04/06/17 10:48 PM
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Also, "I won't get out again for weeks, so we should get as much fun out of our time as possible". Use the scarcity.
/r/seduction04/06/17 07:09 PM
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All women are available for romantic interactions. What I mean is that, for most women, there is some approach, for some guy, that will work. I didn't mean, for example, that I could get any women. (I wish). I meant more "it's theoretically possible for every woman, so you might as well give it a try." Sound better?
/r/seduction04/06/17 07:07 PM
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Insomnia!
/r/seduction04/06/17 06:57 PM
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Go for it. Worse case, you make a friend, and super hot babes have super hot friends. Best case, you get the girl.
/r/seduction04/06/17 06:54 PM
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It probably will kill things, but you might learn things that would help with the next one. But it could just be last minute resistance. Back off, relax for a bit, and try again. You also could be shit at kissing. There's probably a youtube video for that.
/r/seduction04/06/17 06:52 PM
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automatically make them be my girlfriend? Didn't say that. just go up and talk to girls Did say that. Just go talk. Life will follow.
/r/seduction04/06/17 01:46 AM
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85% is still a great stat.
/r/seduction04/06/17 01:44 AM
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I don't think so. If you are twenty and fit, and talking to a twenty year old girl, you can walk up with an attraction based opener - "hey, you are cute". If you are fifty, and try that with a twenty year old, you'll get blown out. You have to be more indirect.
/r/seduction03/06/17 09:00 PM
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No, that's absolutely bullshit. That's what we tell the beginners, so they will quit making excuses and try. :-) Different approaches work for different people. If the women is way more attractive, you have to go more indirect. You can't just go in with "hey, I think you are cute". You can still go in, you can still close. But if you try an approach that doesn't fit, you'll blow out every time.
/r/seduction03/06/17 08:55 PM
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have to wait for date #2 for the full sex. First world problems. :-) What tricks do you guys have that make a girl more comfortable inviting you to her place, very early on Get her more aroused, before you leave the previous venue.
/r/seduction03/06/17 08:46 PM
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All women are available for romantic interactions. She wasn't interested in you (yet). You can either use that as a filter, and spend your time on more receptive girls, which will save you time. Or you can build more attraction with this girl before you start making your physical interest clear. Sets are the game equivalent of reps in the gym. Gotta get the hours in, if you want results. But props for doing it intelligently, and looking for feedback, before hitting it again.
/r/seduction03/06/17 08:43 PM
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You know, I don't think I've ever seen a post that was so clearly its own answer. If acting one way results in girls wanting you, and acting another means they don't which way do you act?. Seriously, why is this a question?
/r/seduction03/06/17 08:38 PM
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Don't just post links with no content in the post.
/r/seduction03/06/17 08:36 PM
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People say to get over it by meeting other women Good, now you know the answer. but I don't think I am capable of actually doing that No, you don't want to. That's it. The "can't" is coming from the whiny, special snowflake who doesn't want to do anything hard. The part of you that wants to spend the rest of your life watching anime and hugging a pillow. Go do it, or be miserable. The choice is yours, and don't for a minute pretend it isn't.
/r/seduction03/06/17 08:33 PM
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Less important note: And I thought it was bullshit It was. Girls give excuses, so as to not make guys mad at them, because some guys are fucking crazy. It won't normally be anything but a nice generic, "we won't work out", like, for example: "our personalities were not a match". This is the same as "it's not you, it's me". Don't waste time reading much into it.
/r/seduction03/06/17 08:18 PM
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How do you grow self esteem when you can't get laid By having an amazing job, cool hobbies and passions, and great friends! You sounds pretty awesome. This is a vicious circle, though No, it's a dead end. You can't get out of the trap by thinking about it the way you are thinking about it. Look, I'm a random guy on the internet, I don't know you, but if I had to guess, I'd say that you are looking for a woman to validate that you are a good person. "If they reject me, I'm a bad/failed person. If…
/r/seduction03/06/17 08:16 PM
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Cool, so improve. Keep approaching while you do it.
/r/seduction29/05/17 09:13 PM
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I read that in Alec Baldwin's voice
/r/seduction29/05/17 09:13 PM
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I'm thinking /u/milkshadow comes off as pretty damn attractive from what we've seen. Wiling to learn, willing to help, and willing to go for what she wants.
/r/seduction29/05/17 09:06 PM
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Ignore the trolls. Some people hate any sort of success. Ladies, if you ask the guy, you'll probably avoid all the annoying assholes.
/r/seduction29/05/17 09:02 PM
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men are dense as shit No kidding. If you want a laugh, read this recent thread on just how oblivious we can be. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/6d53vz/ladies_what_is_the_most_obvious_hint_youve/
/r/seduction29/05/17 08:57 PM
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because I feel like I waited 3 days for a lame excuse of a text, I'm not impressed with her reasoning, no one is super busy that they can't text you back - I figure she can wait for my next text, that's not bitterness is it? Yep. Nothing but. And it will keep you from getting laid. You can be mad at the world for not being perfect, or work with what you have. The second one works way better for me.
/r/seduction29/05/17 01:28 AM
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You talk to them. Even though it's scary. Bravery isn't absence of fear, it's feeling the fear and doing it anyway.
/r/seduction29/05/17 01:23 AM
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I sometimes just text - "now you have my number, too. - MyName Other than that, I tend to agree that texting is for logistics, not 'how are you?' level stuff. You texted "Can I be honest?", I suggest following up with non-needy honesty. I don't have a magic bullet, but I'd go for common interests. "I really like talking to you. You seem really XXX", where that's some quality she knows she has. And then "would you be up for YYY". Pick an activity that you know you have in common. Can you find a v…
/r/seduction29/05/17 01:17 AM
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Women aren't nearly the threat to guys that reject them. Were you worried that she'd rape you? Or murder you in frustration? So, you don't need to ghost them, they aren't a threat.
/r/seduction29/05/17 01:10 AM
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The lesson is simple: Ask for what you want, and get it, or don't ask and don't get it. Decide what kind of life you want to have, and live it. You don't have a choice, not making a decision, is a decision. What are you going to do?
/r/seduction29/05/17 01:05 AM
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Starting to think he's a troll.
/r/seduction29/05/17 01:02 AM
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Success reports from social guys doing social things Well, duh. It's hard to get laid, if there are no people around. So, no, you can't get laid playing games, or watching netflix alone. Yes, you have to go to social events, but you seem to be confused - there are tons of social events that don't involve college or drinking. Hit meetup.com for an easy start.
/r/seduction29/05/17 01:01 AM
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Even if you do everything right, sometimes it doesn't work. No big criticism. I'd probably send your first text ""Nice meeting you, Gtrman571 :)" within a few minutes or never. Right away, it confirms that you met her, and that she has your number. If it's later than that, it's just an empty of meaning text. Or just start with your second one. Keep it up, be nice if you see her there again.
/r/seduction29/05/17 12:55 AM
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But I hate getting rejections So do we all. Deal with it, or give up. the choice is yours. I never had a girl ask me out I can count on one hand the number of times I have been asked out, out of hundreds of dates. Unless you stand out, it won't happen. (looks, money, charisma, social proof, success). Make your life better, and women will get easier.
/r/seduction29/05/17 12:50 AM
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You misspelled "homicide".
/r/seduction29/05/17 12:43 AM
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Savor this, even if it doesn't work out. You took a step to take control of your life, faced your fears and you worked to get what you wanted. One of the keys to having a good life. Nice work!
/r/seduction29/05/17 12:41 AM
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Lack of moderation has already destroyed this place. Seriously, go read the sidebar. This place used to have people who were working on interesting problems, not "am I too fuggly to get laid?"
/r/seduction29/05/17 12:37 AM
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Note: this is /r/seduction, not /r/makemefeelgood. You come across in your post as insecure and angry. She probably spotted that. You can either: Get mad/depressed about it Do something about it Go read this, then live it: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/6cy7ii/the_girl_is_not_the_goal_the_goal_is_to_become_a/ Stop trying to get your self esteem from women. It's like trying to find water in the desert. You're looking in the wrong fucking place. Go out and make your life worth living,…
/r/seduction29/05/17 12:36 AM
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There's an "askseddit", it's for basics. 90% of the post here should be modded and redirected. And you missed my least favorite chunk of posts: "Am I too pathetic to get laid?" and its older brother "I'm angry I got rejected". Two sticky posts would kill 90% of the traffic and improve the place immeasurably. And read the sidebar! There's great stuff in there. I reread that, and couldn't look at seddit for a month, I was so disgusted at how far it has fallen.
/r/seduction29/05/17 12:30 AM
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'look like i only want to hook up and look like player'' "And you look like fun to play with" "Perhaps. But I can be serious with the right lady. What makes you the right lady" Hold frame, lots of women will date players, they just need to feel that you aren't playing them."
/r/seduction29/05/17 12:05 AM
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Stop trying to get her number. Are you going to fuck her phone? Take her somewhere. The cafe down the street, the cook indie bookstore you found. The great jazz club that cool people go to. The park with the great flowers. First move is to somewhere close. Preferably somewhere you were 'already going'. Your goal is not to get her number, your goal is to seduce her. You are getting the number and quitting before you are done. You obviously haven't built enough attraction, because you are asking f…
/r/seduction29/05/17 12:01 AM
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Girls won't be direct, they've learned angry guys can get worse if directly rejected. Ghosting is safest for them (literally talking physical safety here). If you don't get that, you aren't ready to date. One of the most important things you can do to be less angry, and be more dateable is to not put a label on the girls activities. No, it's not "disrespectful". It's dealing with the reality that any mildly attractive women has orbiters that will text her endlessly, and has almost certainly had …
/r/seduction28/05/17 11:52 PM
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1) A first date is a huge success. Congratulations to you! And I think you didn't make many fuckups - she seems like she was comfortable. Keep trying. Quick note: Don't tease someone nervous about their nervous habits. It just makes them feel worse. Should I have gone for the kiss anyway despite us not connecting that much Probably. It's Tinder She's not there for your life story. She was probably waiting for you to suggest going somewhere more private. She sounds a lot like you. An attractive, …
/r/seduction28/05/17 11:42 PM
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She's interested. She's cautious. If you are interested, keep going.
/r/seduction09/05/17 07:06 PM
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Let me translate the answer, since you didn't get it. It matters for you, but not for /u/MonkeyFist4150, because he understands. Seriously, read his comment a few times, it's a thing of beauty.
/r/seduction09/05/17 07:03 PM
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She's gonna have to be really interested before she reaches out.
/r/seduction09/05/17 06:59 PM
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And then she stares at you like you are retarded, because you haven't left her a place to go in the conversation. Seriously, what do you think she's going to say next?
/r/seduction09/05/17 06:56 PM
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If you're goal is to impress the other boys on the playground, those are the skills you need. Seriously, in an adult, does anything say neckbeard like "making an epic verbal comeback on the spot"? This is something you do to impress boys, not women. If you want to talk to women, have something to talk about. Content free humor will only get you so far. (and I'm pretty good at it). Go do something interesting, try something new, something adventurous. While the other boys are still trying to impr…
/r/seduction09/05/17 06:53 PM
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I feel like as a man, I'm being unfairly held to a higher standard of finding work than women. If you want to fail your whole life, just keep thinking like that. You don't control everything in your life, it's true. But if you focus on the things not under your control, then you make yourself helpless. And helpless people don't get better. I'm held back. Passive again. Take responsibility, or live in a rut. It's a simple choice - make your choice, and then don't complain about the outcome. And d…
/r/seduction09/05/17 06:47 PM
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fazed.
/r/seduction08/05/17 03:24 AM
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Accept that everyone has lows, life goes in cycles. And you are feeling the effects of several cycles hitting low at the same time. It will pass. It's ok to feel down - don't give yourself shit for it. Accept it's part of life, keep at the improvement, and it will pass.
/r/seduction08/05/17 03:23 AM
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Assume attraction!
/r/seduction08/05/17 03:20 AM
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You need to use different approaches for different levels of attractiveness. Sounds like you are calibrated for 9s.
/r/seduction08/05/17 03:19 AM
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Why would you ignore people who are trying to sell you something?
/r/seduction04/05/17 05:13 AM
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we fucked then we went our separate ways, I was totally played. You realize most men here want exactly this, right?
/r/seduction04/05/17 05:11 AM
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Hey, let's obsess about someone really unlikely, that I won't ever see face to face, so I don't have to worry about actual women. Why a 1% chance, when you can do that any day at the mall? You aren't pursuing, you are hiding.
/r/seduction04/05/17 05:10 AM
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Why do nearly all pretty girls are friends with the "cool" guys Because they can? And how to be one of them? Have an interesting life.
/r/seduction04/05/17 04:58 AM
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Go out, and do. Organized events are great. (groups clubs, meetups) Lots of easy, no fault interactions. Master talking to people before worrying about pickup.
/r/seduction04/05/17 04:56 AM
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ilbrary.
/r/seduction04/05/17 04:54 AM
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Important lesson in life: It's not all about you. Sounds like she met someone, either before, or after your date. It's one of the problems with long separations. It's not your fault, sometimes circumstances just screw you.
/r/seduction04/05/17 04:52 AM
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So get to know them. Now that you know that you can get laid, you don't have to act like a starving man at his first meal. Take your time, talk, get to know them gradually. Figure out the right one to get into bed with - one that you know you can talk to in the morning.
/r/seduction04/05/17 04:50 AM
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So, you are going to keep doing things that never work, because it's too much effort to do things that work?
/r/seduction04/05/17 04:48 AM
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then don't. say "get food", "have a drink", "netflix and chill". Take them to more than one place. concert, bar, food, home, bang. By the time they've gone a few places with you, and had fun, they'll be more comfortable going home.
/r/seduction02/05/17 06:37 AM
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Gotta mix it up. Especially if it's not working. If it didn't work, why you wanna do it again next time? Play with it a bit each time, find out what works, for you.
/r/seduction02/05/17 06:35 AM
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I think you should put some content, like summary, if you are going to link to your site. Just putting a content free link seems like an ad. If the summary is good, people will be interested.
/r/seduction02/05/17 06:31 AM
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Talking to trolls just encourages them...
/r/seduction30/04/17 11:59 PM
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Give her a yellow card.
/r/seduction30/04/17 02:32 AM
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She seemed open to continuing. Why did you stop?
/r/seduction30/04/17 02:30 AM
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when you post the exact same things to multiple subtreddit, that's clearly advertising. https://www.reddit.com/r/pickup/comments/67zdv5/review_of_the_latest_content_in_manwhoreorg_s/
/r/seduction29/04/17 09:22 PM
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And, if you were a woman, would you rather go out with the current you, or you from two years ago? So I do recommend self improvement, but it will not help with women or relationships. It's not everything. But it's like being tall, or good looking. It makes everything easier.
/r/seduction29/04/17 09:04 PM
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Nicely done. Keep it up!
/r/seduction29/04/17 09:01 PM
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Convent.
/r/seduction26/04/17 02:44 AM
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Stop stressing. What's going on is probably that she's busy. If you want to kill the attraction now, get all needy, and text her a lot. Have a plan for prom. Ways to make things fun, where you can take her afterward.
/r/seduction26/04/17 02:43 AM
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Spend your summer on self improvement, and being passionate about things. Then your virginity will take care of itself. Spend the summer chasing girls solely to get laid, and you'll probably finish the summer a virgin. You want a suggestion? Backpack across Europe.
/r/seduction26/04/17 02:42 AM
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He did say "all opinions". :-) I always try for something situational. Weather, the line your are standing in, or in Trader Joe's, ask for suggestions. Anything less generic than "pretty". Tattoos, jewelry, clothing are good starting points, too.
/r/seduction26/04/17 01:58 AM
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How common is this scenario where girls do this just to make fun of guys with their group of friends? Outside of high school? I'd say pretty much never.
/r/seduction25/04/17 07:08 AM
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We all know that a girl decides in the first minute if she will fuck you or not. Nope. Maybe if you are in a noisy club, and all you've got is looks and 30 minutes. Lots of women take time to decide. And if you develop, physically, or mentally, interactions can and do change.
/r/seduction25/04/17 06:48 AM
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4) You want to fix them 5) You are more comfortable around people you feel superior to 6) It's familiar. 7) Crazy girls are exciting! Rule #1. Do not stick your dick in crazy Rule #2. See Rule #1
/r/seduction25/04/17 06:44 AM
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"Hey, I think you're pretty." => "Hey, I better be physically attractive, because I have no originality, and all I care about is your looks".
/r/seduction25/04/17 06:42 AM
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If you improve yourself, life will get easier. If using women as motivation works for you, then use it. But it will pay off in more areas than you realize.
/r/seduction25/04/17 06:40 AM
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I got led on Said thousands of guys who will never get laid. Take responsibility, own it. Learn from it. Or whine and never do better. .but I decided to talk to her more during the next break until the next dj went on but she started ignoring me You lost the connection somehow. You were doing great, and you can again. But what will you do differently next time? What will you do better. How can you affect the outcome. .I then decided to grab her big ass ಠ_ಠ Dude, you did well, then you lost it. D…
/r/seduction25/04/17 06:39 AM
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Stop trying to get laid tonight, and just talk to people. Talk to everyone, pretty, ugly, old, young, fat, skinny, male, female. One you get used to talking to people, you can talk to pretty women-type people, too.
/r/seduction25/04/17 06:34 AM
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Not trying to be a dick If you can't get past the second paragraph without sounding butt-hurt, you probably aren't going to connect with women, either. So, let me give you the life advice you need, not the easy answers you want. "If you go to people that know more than you for advice, don't tell them what advice to give you." With a second helping of "If you know what the answer is gonna be in advance, then you can just do it, and not bother people".
/r/seduction25/04/17 06:32 AM
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Only comment: Have fun on Thursday!
/r/seduction25/04/17 06:25 AM
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I'd love more details, or samples. I suspect others would as well.
/r/seduction23/04/17 05:18 AM
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99% number close is pretty damn good. Field reports would be great.
/r/seduction23/04/17 04:09 AM
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I'm gonna call you on that, and say "how?" Most people here seem to have reached the same conclusion that texting is not a good way to keep her warm. That doesn't mean it's true. If you've got better technique, please share.
/r/seduction23/04/17 03:36 AM
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Define "success". If you mean f-close 99%, I am in awe. Or do you just mean they talked to you. (which is still good).
/r/seduction23/04/17 03:10 AM
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But I don't want to straight ask one of them out and end up with a stage 60 clinger who scares away every other girl in the class. You'd rather have nothing? You are worrying about all the things that guys who never get laid worry about. There's nothing wrong with attraction or flirtation. Be low key, and confident. Just do it, already.
/r/seduction22/04/17 05:08 AM
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Everyone has off days. It could just be that. Got a wingman you can take, and get some feedback?
/r/seduction22/04/17 05:05 AM
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Girl is into you. Just take her somewhere other than her parents house.
/r/seduction22/04/17 05:03 AM
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Wait, try again i a few days. Don't invest much effort. It's a likely "no"
/r/seduction21/04/17 03:37 PM
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I asked her if I was going to be going through a window and she said I wish. I am understanding right? She said "I wish you could come in through my window"? So, she's basically saying "I want you to fuck me", and then said no a moment later. Does she live with her parents? You said you had to turn off your headlights. I mean, if she heard dad on the other side of the door, or they have a home security cam, that could ruin her options. She may have friend zoned you for the audience. Or something…
/r/seduction21/04/17 03:35 PM
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"I miss you" is one of those things that can go either way, depending on how you say it. It's easy to say it like "I need you", in which case, it is needy. If you can say something like "I miss you when you aren't here" and say it with a smile, that can be fine.
/r/seduction21/04/17 03:16 PM
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Hey, what's up No. Text when you have something to say. "Live band, Tijuana Joe's, 9:30 tomorrow. Meet me there?"
/r/seduction21/04/17 04:26 AM
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Go put yourself into semi structured situations (clubs, social classes, meetups), and interact with as many people as possible. The best places for this are places where you get short interactions with a lot of people. Hell, get a job as a barista. Volunteer to take tickets at college events. This will give you lots of practice, with minimal, if any consequences for failure. Social skills come from practice (and feedback) It's massively difficult to go from no skills to cold approaches. Start wi…
/r/seduction21/04/17 04:19 AM
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Needy: wait for her approval after you say something. Correct: say it and continue with the conversation. So many guys give compliments and then wait for the pat on the head.
/r/seduction21/04/17 04:09 AM
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Really cringey I guess but I felt like I had to say it When you know you shouldn't say it, but feel like you have to: DON'T SAY IT!
/r/seduction20/04/17 02:25 AM
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Yep, the fun of growing older is realizing just how stupid I was then...
/r/seduction20/04/17 02:14 AM
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Find hobbies that are social. It's harder than college, but way easier to do better than when you "never did much".
/r/seduction19/04/17 05:12 AM
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Do it. Don't think of it as a big deal, or a comment on you. Just go, and have fun yourself. If you get more, great, if not have a pleasant night with a friend.
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:34 AM
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I really need this one to work out otherwise it will be months before I get the confidence back and don't have much money Let that go. You must not be thinking like this on the date. You are hanging out with a friend, but being flirtatious and having fun. None of that "this is the one" crap at this point. If you are broke, do cheap stuff. Picnic, beach, hiking, window shopping. Don't stress, you don't have to spend money. Google cheap dates. The absolute best thing you can do is have fun. Having…
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:32 AM
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This is not /r/writing. Please don't post fiction.
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:27 AM
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but some people we know, but werent really good friends with were around (and looking at us) so i felt like i didn't want to make her uncomfortable by going further. That is why you isolate. Suggest going somewhere else in this situation if this happens again. But for now, call the girl. Suggest dinner, or an activity (not a movie). Touch her some more. She likes you. Have a plan for a place to take her, should things go well. (have condoms!).
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:21 AM
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One should never "confess" feelings. It's a one way ticket to the friend zone. Confessing is what you do for things you did wrong, or aren't proud of. If you aren't proud of your feelings for her, she's not going to be interested. If you are going to tell someone you like them, own it - be happy and confident with it. Never be hesitant or shy. If you are going to be hesitant or shy, then DON'T DO IT!
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:13 AM
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Also, start the evening how ever you normally do. Don't make it tense, or weird. I'd be thinking about seducing her, if she feels like she's going to have a wonderful, sexy evening, she's going to be in the right mood to say yes to other things
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:07 AM
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I think she'll probably say "yes", but give a few moments thought to the "no" option. You just need to accept what she says with a smile. A "no" now doesn't mean you lose FWB, nor does it mean she won't be a romantic partner in the future. If she says no, smile and continue on with your evening with her. Do not show hurt, or be a dick about it.
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:05 AM
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Well, I'm not a big fan of "we have to talk". I'm more of an "actions speak louder". But, you seem to be doing fine, and it sounds like she's up for more. Don't listen to people who say "ask her how she feels", shows no confidence. Just do exactly what you said: I want to just confidently tell her straight up that I have romantic inclinations toward her and want to be working towards something with her. Be confident, and comfortable with your feelings for her. The main thing I'll say is "she alr…
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:01 AM
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Bump into someone else. There are lots of girls on campus.
/r/seduction19/04/17 03:42 AM
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What made you break out of this cycle? Wanting to get laid. College is great - just join group activities (clubs, etc). You'll end up talking to people, without having to do cold approaches. If they have dance lessons, salsa, swing, etc., TAKE THEM.
/r/seduction19/04/17 03:15 AM
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Just remember, they're all the same height, lying down. Next time, promise you'll close!
/r/seduction19/04/17 03:11 AM
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Good to know, thanks.
/r/seduction18/04/17 06:16 AM
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It rubs you all the wrong way for some reason too. It's not personal. It's just because, if you hang around these forums, you hear the same excuses, over and over again. After saying things for the hundredth time, after a while, it gets a bit tiring. You are not a special snowflake. You are one of thousands. And your life won't get much better, until you stop making the same excuses that we've already heard. And most of us that have been hanging out for a while were originally where you are, and…
/r/seduction18/04/17 05:26 AM
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She already wanted him, but was settling for you. When he became available, she went with her first choice. No reflection on you, he got their first.
/r/seduction18/04/17 05:13 AM
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I couldn't take it Wait, what? Did I miss something? You couldn't take her being "extremely nice and open"? Issues, much? And what do you think of the chances a short guy pulling a taller girl? Sounds like you were pulling, and you bailed. Chances are zero, until you stop quitting when you are winning.
/r/seduction18/04/17 05:10 AM
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You are doing great. Trust your instincts.
/r/seduction18/04/17 05:02 AM
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I have the impression that paintball is a mainly male activity.
/r/seduction18/04/17 04:59 AM
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I know I'm being way too vague Yep. Do a field report. Or get a wing, and get some feedback. If you have female friends (And you should!) get feedback from one you aren't currently chasing. (don't ask what to do, they won't know. Ask if you are doing something wrong). Seriously, I hate the idea that some people spread that cold pickup in clubs is the way to start. It's a shitty place to start for a newbie. Clubs are hard. Build a social circle, and find connections. Build a life, so you have som…
/r/seduction15/04/17 08:24 AM
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"Get the fuck off your computer, and start having a life".
/r/seduction14/04/17 04:53 AM
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It's funny how we frequently revert to the people we were before, when we are around people we knew then. You see her, and you feel the feelings you had before. Move on.
/r/seduction14/04/17 04:51 AM
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Find other sources of excitement. Take them rock climbing, travel, parties.
/r/seduction14/04/17 04:49 AM
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The other comments are right. I'll add About 3 hours later I texted her "what's up ?" And again didn't respond. This makes you seem needy/creepy.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:46 AM
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Learn to write to impress. You write like a large polo shirt and a bad haircut.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:42 AM
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Fair. I've just always been surprised how far women will go, when they feel that they have competition.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:39 AM
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Post field reports. You'll get more varied opinions that way. I've slowly come to realise that a great source of my pain is down to my inability to approach people in general, but more so women. No, it's not. Really. That's a symptom, not a cause. It's that you are determining your self worth based on what others think of you. Fix this, and the other will follow.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:37 AM
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Make this a lifestyle, not a phase, and you won't need us for advice. And yes, salsa is a good place to meet women.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:27 AM
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The best way to do small talk is to do interesting things. Did you do anything in the last month besides video gaming and fapping? No wonder your small talk sucks. Go out. Dance, laugh, party. Do something scary. You won't have any trouble making conversation. You just have to have something to talk about.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:26 AM
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Active zits, yes that's an issue. Clean up your diet, SLEEP ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE, wash your sheets. Scars - women don't seem to give a fuck.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:22 AM
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leave it.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:20 AM
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I think the "a simple yes or no will do" was addressed to us. Should he call again? "a simple yes or no will do"
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:19 AM
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Congratulations on your dedication to success. I think you might be at a plateau. Find someone to go out with you, and give feedback. Or post a field report here, but eyes on are good.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:18 AM
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I hate myself because I have no success with women whatsoever. Stop keeping score by women. Set some goals for yourself, and keep them. (backpack across Europe, do a color run, take up MMA). Anything that will satisfy YOU. Find value in your actions, not seeking it from others. (You probably aren't even seeking it from women, you just want to show them to the world). Models also a good book. Counseling is an option as well.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:15 AM
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The cappuccinos are just a step in coffee bean evolution. The beans are using hipsters to reproduce.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:09 AM
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Let her know (subtly) that you made new friends without her. She'll likely feel she needs to compete.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:08 AM
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You know, you can spot the tacky ads just from the title alone. The sad thing is people probably fall for this shit.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:05 AM
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Being able to set long term goals and meet them will do more for your happiness than getting laid tonight. Congratulations, you did good. Now pick your next target, plan and execute.
/r/seduction09/04/17 03:03 AM
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So take her fucking dancing already. Don't let the attraction fade before you move.
/r/seduction02/04/17 03:50 AM
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Because people off the internet are not a bunch of judgemental assholes. They are remarkably tolerant of various lifestyles. The stigma attached to being over 30, Stigma? Have you watched a movie lately? (chick flicks don't count.) They are ALL about men in their 30s and 40s sleeping with random women. I'm guessing that you are female, and don't go out much.
/r/seduction02/04/17 03:46 AM
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You get good at what you spend time on. The harder the major, the more time it takes.
/r/seduction02/04/17 03:41 AM
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If you go to 4chan for advice, you deserve what you get.
/r/seduction27/03/17 04:20 AM
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I didn't mean you had no success. I meant that in the case where you get the number and bounce it probably didn't lead to anything.
/r/seduction26/03/17 04:04 AM
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Yep. That's pretty much it. The best thing you can probably do is encourage him when he makes moves to be better. You can't do any of it for him.
/r/seduction26/03/17 04:01 AM
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They are aware that you are smiling - so you come across as a happy person. Better opener than someone who smiles because a women looks at him.
/r/seduction26/03/17 04:00 AM
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1) See /u/Woujo's comment. 2) I'm always amused by people who have miserable lives, and still believe they are smarter than everyone else. Go read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_multiple_intelligences First time I saw that, it was a wake-up call. Like a lot of "smart" people, I rate really high in a few of these. The one ones that are useful in school. I thought I was "super intelligent". Then I realized I was literally retarded in a least three others. Your friend won't get anywh…
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:37 PM
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Look up Seasonal Affective Disorder. It's not just you.
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:26 PM
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Maybe someone else can express this better, but I'll try. Like any little mistake that I do, wrong wording in text conversation and I am done. Let's say you do BMX, or Motocross. It is brutal, and one mistake and you are gone. But do you blame the track? Some people do. And they drop out, because it's not their fault, it's that the track was too hard. Other people think "this is fun. How can I get better? What can I do better next time". These people improve. Humans are irrational about loss. Th…
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:10 PM
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I find smiling before making eye contact changes the amount of eye contact I get. They are aware of you and your "vibe" before you make eye contact.
/r/seduction25/03/17 02:37 PM
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No one knows what's in your glass. Is that Rum & Coke, or Coke?
/r/seduction25/03/17 02:35 PM
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The main flaw in your reasoning is there isn't one "seduction community". Making statements about the community is like making statements about women, or people of color. It's overgeneralizing. It's like saying reddit is one community, so /r/twoxchromosomes is just like /r/the_donald Just go read /r/theredpill, /r/incel, /r/rsd and this forum. You'll get completely different advice from the four of them. It has been nine years since I made my thesis documentary and I do wonder what happened to t…
/r/seduction25/03/17 02:31 PM
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What's your success rate with the numbers? I'm gonna guess around zero? I think you are doing great at opening, but failing at building attraction. So, no point in getting the numbers, if they are just to get you to go away. You didn't provide an FR (please do, it adds value for everyone), so we can't make anything but general suggestions. What do you do after you get them smiling and laughing? There are a few common possibilities 1) You don't know what to do after you say "hi", so you sputter o…
/r/seduction25/03/17 02:17 PM
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"I'm satisfied with how I look, and I'm confident" "You know what, I'll never get iois" Well, the first statement is a statement about you, the second is a statement about the unknowable future, with an assumed failure. And guess which thinking pattern leads to more success in life? So, recognize the second pattern is NOT about self image. The second is a depressive thinking pattern, which leads to self-fulfilling prophecies. Anytime you start thinking the second thoughts, just tell yourself "I …
/r/seduction25/03/17 02:07 PM
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Another attempt to show them that I demand a response and explanation of why she refused to meet me tonight. Now you know what you get when you make demands. Maybe at first glance looking a little needy And second glance, and third. Girls hate needy guys. Don't be one.
/r/seduction25/03/17 12:12 AM
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Field Report?
/r/seduction25/03/17 12:09 AM
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You know how annoying it is when people tell you how you should live your life? Don't be one of those people.
/r/seduction24/03/17 11:53 PM
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The jokes on Rover. Remember that trip to the Vet?
/r/seduction24/03/17 11:52 PM
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Add value. Volunteer to help at the clubs. Working the door is ideal, being MC is good, but anything adds value. Help plan events for the club. That will start giving you ideas what that process is like, and what other people like. Spend some time researching interesting events in your area, and suggest a group activity. For a small time investment (15 minutes a week) you can be "The guy who knows what cool stuff is going on". Tell interesting stories. How do you find interesting stories? Go do …
/r/seduction24/03/17 11:51 PM
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Of course you start now, but don't start with cold approaches in clubs, start building the social foundation now. Workout in the hiking and ultimate frisbee groups. Co-ed volleyball. Color runs. Do fun things, and don't worry about getting laid yet. Having friends and social skills will back up the six pack you are building.
/r/seduction24/03/17 04:25 AM
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There's this fucking retarded idea in the pickup community that you should fly before you can walk. Picking up girls in clubs is a terrible place to start, if you have no game. Seriously, take a break from trying to get laid, and try to have a life for a while. Learn to deal with people in normal situations. Have some fun, do some cool things. It'll do way more for your love life than getting rejected in clubs. Go backpack across Europe, and talk to everyone you can. Don't even think about getti…
/r/seduction24/03/17 04:17 AM
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The best interactions and best girls you can find somewhere out of the bar/club scene.
/r/seduction23/03/17 03:19 AM
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Understand that the best way to make people laugh in a good way is to tell stories that have a funny component. It's much better than jokes for connecting to people.
/r/seduction23/03/17 03:18 AM
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Toastmasters can be good for improvisational speaking.
/r/seduction23/03/17 03:17 AM
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so maybe it was a sign that it wasn't meant to for me for me with girls in general. Seriously? If you assume the universe is going to piss on you, it's way more likely to. Might as well assume the reverse.
/r/seduction23/03/17 03:14 AM
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Looking forward to your show on the Food Network.
/r/seduction19/03/17 05:31 PM
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How are you going to get better if you don't practice? "What turns you on?" said with a smirk is one way to learn what she wants. I don't believe in opening with physical compliments, but once she's naked, absolutely! Make her feel sexy.
/r/seduction19/03/17 05:29 PM
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I had time yesterday, and was posting a lot. Then for about an hour I'm not really touchy with her (vice versa) cuz whatever. Well, this doesn't sound good. She's into you, and you are ignoring her. Why not escalate? 1) Drink less. (either prioritize pussy, or alcohol). 2) Never leave your too drunk to care friend alone with a drunk guy! 3) She still likes you. Should have made a move earlier though. Cast parties are intense. As long as she didn't get picked up at the cast party, I think she'll …
/r/seduction19/03/17 05:18 PM
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Ok, you've proved you can pull. Now stop defining yourself by your dick. Time for a little self improvement. Start doing interesting things you want to do - be a genuinely interesting person, not a dick missile.
/r/seduction19/03/17 04:24 PM
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At some point, they must separate from each other There's another happy option...
/r/seduction19/03/17 04:41 AM
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Note: If they give you feedback, smile and say thank you. Never argue, even if you think it's wrong.
/r/seduction19/03/17 04:36 AM
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I don't see any major red flags in your post. Looks probably not the issue. Are your extracurriculars something that involves women? Maybe post a Field Report the next time you flirt to a girl? Do you have a female friend that you are not currently trying to bang that you can ask for a style evaluation? Women tend to be good that spotting the negatives. (bad clothes, body language) and less good at telling you what active steps you need to take). A little local feedback can tell you about things…
/r/seduction19/03/17 04:36 AM
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If you are able to sleep with 50% of the women you approach, you should be giving advice, not asking for it.
/r/seduction18/03/17 11:16 PM
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book clubs, zumba classes, climbing, hiking.
/r/seduction18/03/17 11:15 PM
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Again, let me state I am going from small amounts of text. There are is my impressions, not facts. (They might be "alternative facts"!) I hope Oatmeal has the balls to do and not just say "not this weekend" when she's probably hanging out with handsome gentleman on the low. This one sentence has three flags in it. "Has the balls" - this is something people usually say when then are tired of (or annoyed by) someone's behavior. I wish he's have the balls to dump that bitch I wish he'd have the bal…
/r/seduction18/03/17 09:01 PM
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So she's probably interested, but not DTF yet. Probably wants to know you are not just looking to pump and dump. Make her feel special, unusual, then escalate.
/r/seduction18/03/17 08:50 PM
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textwise This is not good text game. Pointless conversations will fade out until they ghost. Text is for logistics. Build attraction in person. As for statements, I'm not one that says you should use them, but I can see some advantages. The difference between "Do you like nature?" And "You look like a person who enjoys walks in nature." Is in the second, you are bringing something to the table. Not much, but something. THEN you can follow up with something to keep the conversation going. "Have y…
/r/seduction18/03/17 08:45 PM
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It's on you to escalate. Hug her, touch her, flirt with her. If she's still smiling, keep going.
/r/seduction18/03/17 08:27 PM
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By not noticing. Sounds like you let her frame dominate yours. Imagine how someone who is drowning in pussy would respond to this? Mildly amused, and just ignore. That's what you should do.
/r/seduction18/03/17 08:19 PM
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I sulked the rest of the day Gotta be able to laugh at yourself. Tell her now you've learned her secret identity, and ask her which superhero she is. :-) Let me be blunt here. I'm not trying to insult, but rather to point out things that can be improved. Now these comments are based on 9 paragraphs of text, so I may be off base. Your word choices and phrasing tell people about you. Here, and with the ladies. To me, you come off as a bit angry, and a bit of not taking responsibility. I hate the i…
/r/seduction18/03/17 08:15 PM
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You are already pulling, so my comment was really mostly for readers. My main point was it's easier to do one thing "feel like a million" than "head high, straight posture, look into people's eyes," (be relaxed, move like you are happy, relax muscles, shoulders back...) For people who have never felt this feeling, visualizing can really help. Stand up, and then visualize walking into a room, a beautiful woman on each arm. Think about how awesome you will feel, the smile you'll give to the hot ba…
/r/seduction18/03/17 07:47 PM
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Try contacts when going out - you may find you get even more compliments.
/r/seduction18/03/17 06:19 PM
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Hit enter twice, not just once this is two lines next to each other it comes out as you see below this is two lines next to each other it comes out as you see below This is two lines, with a blank between It comes out like you see below This is two lines, with a blank between It comes out like you see below As you can see, reddit "helpfully" puts lines together if you just hit enter once, so what looks fine when you type it in gets smooshed together when displayed.
/r/seduction18/03/17 06:16 PM
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I don't want to read them. Do you want to get better? It seems likely you are doing something that kills attraction. You can a) Keep doing it forever b) Figure it out on your own c) Post here, and get some suggestions. It's all on you to decide what you want to do.
/r/seduction18/03/17 06:14 PM
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We both knew it wouldn't lead anywhere It took me a long time to realize I did my best flirting when I knew it wouldn't lead anywhere. Now I do all my flirting like that.
/r/seduction18/03/17 05:01 PM
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It makes way more difference than you might think. After I got new glasses, I got told by many people how bad my old ones were. Everyone was too nice to tell me, until I fixed it. also, try contacts, if you can.
/r/seduction18/03/17 04:54 PM
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Dude, post some detailed field reports. It sounds like you are pretty attractive, as they are approaching you. But something is killing attraction. Need to figure that out.
/r/seduction18/03/17 04:52 PM
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It's not relevant. The problem is not that he's bottom-of-the-barrel, it's that he thinks he is.
/r/seduction18/03/17 04:50 PM
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Watch it with the sound off. It helps you concentrate on the body language. Both of them know to seduce. Also, you skip the weird audio at the end.
/r/seduction18/03/17 04:28 PM
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Yup. It sucks, but it won't kill you. Or even bother you for long. Learning this is a key to life.
/r/seduction18/03/17 04:17 PM
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I'd say that it means she's open to being persuaded. It's not that she's necessarily good-to-go right now, but she's open to having a flirtatious conversation. It's a go-ahead signal.
/r/seduction18/03/17 04:14 PM
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Practice. Girls get into this stuff young. For them, it's all about the social game. So, while you are play video games, she's playing for status in her circle of friends. So she's got years more practice than you do. So get out there, and practice. And asking people questions about things they are good at is a great way to learn, and usually make them feel good about you. If she says something, and you don't understand how she knows, ask.
/r/seduction18/03/17 04:09 PM
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Seddit, am I going crazy? Nope, you are 100% normal. You had sex with someone you liked, and you like her more. Then she pulled away, and you want to hang on. (This is so powerful that it's the basis of a lot of pickup techniques). It does things like this to people: It's fucked up how much I like her. I can't sleep What did you do in this situation? Well, depends on whether you want her back, or want to move on. If you want to move on, then you need to get up, go out, do interesting things, see…
/r/seduction18/03/17 04:05 PM
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Also paragraph breaks (a blank line not just hitting enter) make story much more readable.
/r/seduction18/03/17 03:56 PM
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While walking around and leading these two women (leading is the key) I noticed other people look at me differently, It certainly made me more attractive in the eyes of other woman (pre-selection theory). I felt like a million bucks. Remember this feeling. Remember how people looked at you, remember how you felt. Run this through your head before you enter the next bar. It will affect your body language, and you'll walk in like a guy who always has two beautiful women on his arm. For those of yo…
/r/seduction18/03/17 03:55 PM
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1) Talk to everyone. A lot of people freeze when talking to a beautiful woman because they don't talk to anyone else. Talk to people who don't make you freeze up until its natural, then talk to beautiful women like that. 2) Practice situational awareness. Look at everyone you meet. Find something that stands out, even if only a little. Comment on it. (jewelwry, tattoos, clothing, haircut, body language. If it's their space, decorations, pictures, books). Most people go through life half asleep. …
/r/seduction18/03/17 03:46 PM
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I went to the strip of clubs, I had to read that three times. I thought you went to strip clubs - not good for pickup.
/r/seduction18/03/17 05:50 AM
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I found this an interesting perspective. A guy moves to Thailand, and has to deal with too many women chasing him. http://postmasculine.com/life-through-the-eyes-of-a-beautiful-woman
/r/seduction18/03/17 03:03 AM
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Thank you for a useful post that is an example that can start discussion. There are way too many "I suck" posts, and way to few people posting good stuff the provides examples, and provoke discussion. Everyone: More of these, please.
/r/seduction18/03/17 02:43 AM
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why all the tactics, games, and strategy? Because you can't sell simple.
/r/seduction18/03/17 02:41 AM
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/r/getmotivated The fact that you can't get a girl because you have issues does not make this a girl problem.
/r/seduction18/03/17 02:38 AM
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Dating is not your problem. I hate sitting in this room all day. Take your computer, and your television, tablets and donate them to goodwill. Get a dumb phone you can't watch videos on. I guarantee you will find it so boring that you will be forced to go out an have a life. And that is what you need, not a girlfriend. (Having a life makes the girlfriend so much more likely). get off reddit, don't play video games, don't watch tv, movies. It will suddenly start to get better.
/r/seduction18/03/17 02:36 AM
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It's doesn't have to be that dramatic, but it certainly makes for good conversations. Parachuting is more common, lots of places to do that. Get your motorcycle license: Boom, you're a bad boy. :-) Just do the most interesting things you can find, and do them regularly. And when you are doing them, ask the other people what else is cool to do.
/r/seduction17/03/17 03:41 AM
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If you are feeling it that day, do it (and maybe her). If not, don't.
/r/seduction17/03/17 03:38 AM
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Go for it.
/r/seduction17/03/17 03:37 AM
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But don't make it a big deal. You'll be seeing her a lot, either way If she says no it's "Ok, cool" with a smile.
/r/seduction17/03/17 03:33 AM
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Rejection hurts less than not trying.
/r/seduction17/03/17 03:32 AM
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she asked if I wanted to grab some food That seems really positive. Strange it went south. I think I got a bit judge-y That might be it.
/r/seduction17/03/17 03:31 AM
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This has nothing to do with seduction.
/r/seduction17/03/17 03:26 AM
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Why should they? If they don't know you, they don't need to talk to you. It's facebook, there's too much shit going on to keep up with all your friends. Who has time for strangers?
/r/seduction17/03/17 03:26 AM
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"she's not as cool/cute/etc as you." Don't say this. It's kissing up. Low value.
/r/seduction17/03/17 03:20 AM
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Better phrased than mine.
/r/seduction16/03/17 03:09 PM
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Yeah, that's good.
/r/seduction16/03/17 03:09 PM
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Talk to them Be happy Make them feel good. Tons of videos on youtube, if you need examples.
/r/seduction16/03/17 03:08 PM
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someone is "ugly" and yet people find them attractive Exactly! Now realize this applies to you. Be the fun guy who everyone knows Be the guy who is passionate about thigns. Be the guy who is always doing interesting stuff. Be the guy who is always smiling Any of these can move you from "unattractive" to "attractive" without changing your looks. You are doing the right stuff, setting goals, and achieving them. (And yes, girls find this attractive. Girls are hardwired to want a guy sets goals up a…
/r/seduction16/03/17 03:03 PM
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This happens to everyone. She's having a good time, so she says "yes" in the moment, because you are making her laugh, and being interesting. She gets home, cools off and thinks - do I want to go out with him? And she hasn't gotten invested enough to care. Never follow up with a phone call. One text - if she doesn't respond, you can build attraction the next time - maybe set the time and date of your date in person, while she's in the moment. Multiple attempts to connect make you sound needy, an…
/r/seduction16/03/17 02:52 PM
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Stop being boring then. Go do things. Get the tuck off reddit, and go out. Bungee jump, and you'll have something to talk about. Go to a museum, and have something to talk about. You are boring because you spend all day on reddit, and no one want to talk about that. Go outside.
/r/seduction16/03/17 02:41 PM
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I wouldn't really know where to start going to meet people Dallas is huge, there are tons of things to do. https://www.meetup.com/cities/us/tx/dallas/ https://www.meetup.com/topics/singles/us/tx/dallas/ http://www.visitdallas.com/things-to-do/events/index.html Hell, https://www.google.com/search?q=dallas+events Presenting yourself to people is what you need work on. Sounds like you've got the weight under control. Get out there and do! The time is now. Excuses won't get you laid: go!
/r/seduction16/03/17 02:39 PM
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Fantastic! Do keep working, and hit your target. Knowing you have control to change your life is empowering!
/r/seduction16/03/17 02:35 PM
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This is just an excuse. Guys uglier and fatter than you get laid every day. And I'm one of them. You get to decide now: do I want to get laid, or not? If you want to spend the rest of your life whining, there are subreddits for that. If you want to do something about it, welcome. Women do care if you take responsibility for your life, and are secure, so work on inner game (checkout "Models"). Now get the fuck out there, and have an interesting life. Women care a fuck of a lot more about that the…
/r/seduction16/03/17 02:14 PM
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Easiest approach go out an do as many fun things as you can. Only restriction: has to be with other people, and most of the groups should have women in them. Hike, run, bungee jump, paint, sing, dance, ride roller coasters, do zumba.
/r/seduction16/03/17 05:32 AM
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Nice report. Well done. She said she just met me Common form of LMR. She's good to go, but wants reassurance.
/r/seduction16/03/17 05:27 AM
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Join clubs. Talk to women. Don't sweat the pickup. Work on your inner game (make your life better).
/r/seduction16/03/17 05:23 AM
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Only for a few go-arounds, just being silly. Then I'd move on to something else. Like assigning bad professions to her.
/r/seduction16/03/17 05:13 AM
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Do anything. Move the conversation along. Be a bit forward. The following are off the top of my head: sayingI am looking hot in the swim trucks, "I look better out of them" feeling up my (non existent) biceps, Feel hers. making contact like swinging her butt at me. Hey, you got a license for the butt? If not, I'm gonna have to confiscate it. Everytime I just blushed and laughed or said thanks That isn't bad. But it doesn't advance things at all. I ask her if a lot of people are already there and…
/r/seduction16/03/17 04:44 AM
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How about "looks aren't an excuse"? So many people come whining to this subreddit "I'm not good looking enough", "I'm to short", "I'm too fat". Just fucking do it. There are other subreddits for whining. This one is for doing. Hitting the gym is fantastic. Not only will you look better, and feel better, but you will pull better. But don't wait until you are fit. Go out now and open ladies like you were already buff. Do it now
/r/seduction16/03/17 04:37 AM
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One is all you need. There are three ways to think about about this. You are putting yourself out there to be judged, and failing. Ouch. You are putting a ton of hard work in, and getting little result. Bummer. You are having fun, in the process of picking girls up. Win or lose you have fun. It turns out that approach 3 usually leads to a lot more success. #1 leads to anger and depression. #2 can work, if you get better before you give up.
/r/seduction16/03/17 04:28 AM
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It's long enough ago that a mildly bad approach won't be on her mind. Just start fresh.
/r/seduction16/03/17 04:23 AM
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Next time she's laughing at one of your jokes, say "you are really fun to hang out with. We should do more of this. Do you want to go to prom?"
/r/seduction16/03/17 04:22 AM
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Flirting involves interacting with them. Checking out can be done from a distance.
/r/seduction16/03/17 04:20 AM
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Make up an outrageous one. "Drug mule", "Rhinocerous Trainer", "Professional bubble blower". She'll get interested, and want to really know. Don't tell her, keep making it up. "What are you really?" "Really? Squid hunter. Professional"
/r/seduction16/03/17 04:19 AM
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On spring break, are you really going to ask for a number? It's spring break, you'll never see her again. Take her home now.
/r/seduction15/03/17 05:45 AM
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Well, I'm just trying to figure out what you mean by partly a firm, and partly a society If it's more business like, you don't want to be blatantly trying to pick people up. (blatant: other people noticing). If it's more like a frat, ignore this. I think flirtation tends to get less overt as you get older. More attitude and expression than "hey, you look cute"
/r/seduction15/03/17 05:42 AM
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therapy Seems pretty relevant in this case.
/r/seduction15/03/17 05:25 AM
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asked her when she's free next Don't do this. You are asking her to commit blind. She has no idea if you can be any more interesting than you were this time. Always suggest something.
/r/seduction15/03/17 05:22 AM
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how do i get them to percieve me as more experienced than i am Usually, there's nothing more obvious than someone trying to pretend they are someone they are not. Especially around those who are what you are pretending to be. Be yourself. Better a confident you, that a uncertain fake. Let them tell you things that you don't know. Hell, let her teach you things you don't know. I'd be more subtle being flirtatious than at college. Have fun.
/r/seduction15/03/17 05:19 AM
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Once you figure out it's better to try and fail than to not try, it keeps getting easier.
/r/seduction15/03/17 05:15 AM
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I feel like this girl was perfect. Best way to fuck up a potential relationship is to build them up until they are impossible to get. She's not perfect. She's good. So are you.
/r/seduction15/03/17 05:13 AM
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Not. Making fun of his name.
/r/seduction15/03/17 04:12 AM
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Don't feed the trolls.
/r/seduction15/03/17 04:07 AM
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Pheremone Kid Is he Marvel? Or DC?
/r/seduction15/03/17 04:00 AM
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Plateaus happen in any activity. Change it up, go from day to night game. Try different kind of girls. Skip routines if you use them. Try some if you don't. Keep it fun.
/r/seduction15/03/17 03:57 AM
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Can't tell from your description. Could just be insecurity, or could be your behavior. Asian can be a plus or minus, depending where you are. Don't even think about it. It's like being tall: it's not gonna change, so no point in worrying about it. Ask a female friend you aren't planning on dating for advice. Girls love to give advice. The won't tell you how to get girls, but they will tell you if you are doing "creepy" things. I am pretty positive person who smiles and laughs a lot This is actua…
/r/seduction14/03/17 01:10 AM
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Talk to her. What turns her on? What turns you on? Sometimes books on the subject can be interesting to read, either solo or with her. Also, practice helps. Have fun practicing.
/r/seduction14/03/17 12:54 AM
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Depends on your gym. A lot of women wear headphones, and look down because they are actually there to work out. I think it's a bit of a dick move to interrupt someone clearly trying to not be hit on. But if your gym has a juice bar, or it's after your zumba class together, say hello.
/r/seduction14/03/17 12:52 AM
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Just text her. Probably gone cold, but wont get any warmer.
/r/seduction14/03/17 12:39 AM
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independently told me, before I even hooked up with them that I was "the type of guy they wanna marry." before I hooked up with them If they wouldn't sleep with you because of this, it could be a problem, but given that it doesn't seem to be an issue, why sweat it?
/r/seduction14/03/17 12:38 AM
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Get better at sex. Seriously, take her to Good Vibrations, or whatever you have nearby. Pick up a book, or a toy. Then read it together, or play with it together. BTW: The comment "get better at sex" was not a slam. It was serious advice. Just like pickup, you take the cards you have, and play them as well as you can. You want sex with a woman to get better, make it better. And, I can assure you, there's nothing like lots of orgasms to make a woman really want to make you happy. Go buy a book on…
/r/seduction14/03/17 12:34 AM
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I played it off as its a old friend and etc why? Mistake, showed you were trying to date this girl, and wanted her approval - and you will lie for no reason. She'll try harder with competition. You denied there was competition to suck up to this one. She noticed both things. said "hes prob not interested anymore" She's playing you, just like you just failed to do with her. You know you've got competition, she knows she doesn't. She's still interested. Stop shooting yourself in the foot. If she w…
/r/seduction14/03/17 12:28 AM
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Dude, you are so badly confused. You are not going to lose her by trying to fuck her, you are going to lose her by acting like your feelings are evil, and you shouldn't dare to be talking to her about it. Just fucking kiss her already. And then fuck her. She'll let you know if she doesn't want to You don't have to fucking apologize.
/r/seduction14/03/17 12:21 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb7XKOeXANM
/r/seduction14/03/17 12:18 AM
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I told her I can't help but liking her How would you describe that sentence? Maybe "making excuses" is closer than "apologizing". But can you see that you are acting like you are doing something bad.
/r/seduction14/03/17 12:15 AM
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she texted me today with small talk so at least my feelings didn't scare her off completely This is a very good sign. Just keep talking to her. Keep acting like a man (compliment her, don't apologize for your feeling). don't ask her to tell you how she feels. Act like you are on a date you are enjoying. The fact that you have female friends that will talk you up is great. That probably matters more than what she (Christine) actually said. Now I'm going to go into what I think didn't work so well…
/r/seduction14/03/17 12:11 AM
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The reason is, of the girl knows I like her, she will get defensive and move on No, if the girl thinks you want something from her, she'll get defensive and move on. If you let her know that she's smart/funny/sexy/well dressed/interesting/unusual she'll be pleased and keep talking. I'm developing a theory that you shouldn't look for her reaction after a complement - that says you are looking for approval, or a pat on the head (good dog). Right there, you let her know all about your inner game. D…
/r/seduction13/03/17 11:38 PM
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Totally alpha male :-)
/r/seduction13/03/17 11:16 PM
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The reality is it's a lot easier to get enough practice to be a "natural" if you are good looking.
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:28 PM
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Respond soon. While the attraction is hot. "Meet me at bar XX at 9pm"
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:26 PM
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Don't take any one post as reflecting seddit's hivemind. I think 3/4 of the posters here are virgins.
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:22 PM
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I would have said "What's your number" to the one yelling.
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:20 PM
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Come on. Haven't you had one of those friends, where you tell them you like a girl you see and they yell "He likes you" just to watch you turn red? Same thing.
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:20 PM
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So, ask a guy out. Compare.
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:17 PM
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Is he a natural, or just good looking?
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:16 PM
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It's polarizing. some will not like it, some will take it as a challenge. I'd play it up. Or take some white-out :-P And ignore your idiot friends. The cast is going to be there, so work it. It's like the rest of life, it's all about how you work with what you have.
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:15 PM
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This isn't really a seduction question. We're good with how to do things, when you are ready to do things. My biggest problem is I feel like I'm unworthy of affection I still can't break out of the belief that sexuality is somehow immoral and that it's wrong for me to even be thinking about it This is more of a "talk to someone who deals with this" kind of problem. The one thing I'll say is "you can do this".
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:12 PM
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You don't realize it, but it means exactly that. Comments like this show up all the time on seddit, and they show way more about how you think about women than you are aware. And it's at the key of why things aren't working for you. There are a couple things that are killing your game here: Lack of social understanding, and lack of ability to see things from her perspective. You can't game if you aren't aware of how other people think. A simple example: A fat girl at work asks you out. Do you sa…
/r/seduction12/03/17 09:08 PM
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Probably the bad fucking attitude. Would you date someone with an attitude like that?
/r/seduction12/03/17 06:13 AM
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Not sure. Usually "no spark" means you aren't flirting, or doing kino. You are registering to her as a nice person, but not developing attraction. Bear in mind, with Tinder, the fuse is shorter. You need to be moving things along, not setting up things for later.
/r/seduction11/03/17 07:27 PM
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Don't stress. Some sets go south, it doesn't sound like you fucked up. Maybe she doesn't like to dance. And friends dragging friends away is probably the biggest hazard in club game. You attracted her, and talked to her. So your game doesn't suck. Just keep at it.
/r/seduction11/03/17 07:24 PM
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Should I stop being concerned with being polite with them Polite works fine. You don't have to be a douche to get girls. (It works really well for some people. I'm not one of them.). Couple polite with confidence, and leadership. Be the kind of person who does what they want to do, and invites others to join. Where a lot of guys go wrong in "politeness", it confusing it with "doormat". Doormats do not get laid. Polite: I'm going to a show tomorrow, you wanna come? Doormat: What do you wanna do? …
/r/seduction11/03/17 07:18 PM
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Even the BF. It won't get you that girl, but if you can make them both comfortable, others in the club will notice. Social proof.
/r/seduction11/03/17 07:03 PM
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So, missing a word. I'm assuming "i dont wanna waste more of my time". If I'm wrong, ignore the following. Don't do this. It's just flagging yourself as having issues. It shows you're annoyed, so you flunked the test. Be outcome independent. Now, she wasn't that into you, so small loss, but it's a bad habit to get into - it shows your inner game is off. Fix the inner game, and the girls will follow. And never do this IRL, girls talk. Just give a last suggestion, and if she doesn't respond, let i…
/r/seduction11/03/17 07:02 PM
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I was answering "how to keep things going when I run out of things to say". It's not that movies are great. But if that's all you can say about a movie, I can see why you run out of conversation soon. I think maybe this is more of the issue. What can you say about a movie? "I loved that scene where XXX", "I could not stop laughing at". "It was so sad". Movies survive by tugging at your emotions. Use that. Go see "The Fault is in Our Stars". If you can't manage some emotional connect after that, …
/r/seduction11/03/17 06:56 PM
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You are correct, it does nothing except make them want to avoid you.
/r/seduction11/03/17 06:48 PM
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Arguing about whether it's a date does get you out of the friend zone. But I'm not sure the asshole zone is an improvement. People that try to deal with this kind of issue with words always come off as insecure and insincere. What do you care what she calls it? Either go, and seduce her, or don't go. Losers argue.
/r/seduction11/03/17 06:48 PM
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without anyone making a move. "anyone" would be you. Make it. She came home with you from a bar. She's interested.
/r/seduction11/03/17 04:02 AM
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I find a lot of problems with it Yep. So don't do it. You want to date an actual person, you cant date a fantasy.
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:41 AM
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Seriously? I read this forum pretty regularly, and i must have missed that. But then, I don't read the posts that are trying to sell something. People that are sleeping with a new girl every night don't have time to post. And someone who has actually slept with 300 women wouldn't be here unless they wanted to help - so they wouldn't mention it.
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:40 AM
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"other people" - are these people you want to be listening to? Lots of people will tell you to not stand out, be different, go for it. Doesn't matter whether it's pickup, starting a company, going to college. Most women date older at some point - usually not long term.
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:35 AM
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Serious now: There is really one person whose opinion matters: hers. Don't make her feel creeped out. It's good manners, and creeped out women don't sleep with you. That's a skills thing. Ok, and your opinion, too. You, OP, clearly think there is something wrong with it. If its not for you, don't do it. This is a seduction forum, people aren't likely to say "don't". And yes, some people will judge you. Mostly the women your age, who think you should be dating them. If there are a lot of women ar…
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:18 AM
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It's creepy if you are way older. It's creepy if you aren't attractive enough. It's creepy if you don't have good social skills It's DEFINITELY creepy if you hang out in seduction forums. Probably better to stay home with the waifu. /s
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:13 AM
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Can't win if you don't try! Go for it. Let us know how it goes.
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:09 AM
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Don't underestimate the power of silence. You don't have to always talk. Certainly a walk in the park, you can smile at her, and then just enjoy the scenery. It can be very romantic. Or go to a performance. Movies are a bad first date, since you can't talk. But if want a break from talking, go to a movie. And then you have something to talk about.
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:08 AM
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Not sure where you work, different places, different rules. Where I am hitting on people at work is frowned on. If you are going to do it, don't leave a paper trail.
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:05 AM
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That, I agree with.
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:03 AM
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I'd report any therapist that did that. I suspect you are projecting what you think would happen.
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:01 AM
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Who wouldn't want that? But perfection is a fantasy. It only exists in people we don't talk to.
/r/seduction11/03/17 03:00 AM
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This girl was absolutely perfect (in my eyes) There's your problem, leading to and I couldn't even grow the balls to say hello Who wouldn't be intimidated by perfection? But she's not. It's your imagination building her up to something unobtainable. And you do nothing. But in reality, she's a person, not an ideal. She eats, she farts, she pukes, just like you. When you realize that you'll be able to approach.
/r/seduction11/03/17 12:50 AM
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I can initiate communication via corporate chat Yeah, do that. Makes the talk with HR so much quicker./s
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:56 AM
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Don't validate.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:55 AM
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Stand the fuck up. Be better, and be proud.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:53 AM
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Do things where you don't have to talk the whole time. Like dancing.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:52 AM
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Chat her up again. If she seem receptive, suggest something concrete. Probably not the donut shop.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:50 AM
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Do some research, and find some fun activities to do. Then drop them into the conversation, and if she seems interested, invite. You have to take the initiative to move it to the next step. I suspect you are waiting for them, or for it to just "happen". It won't, unless you make it. Suggest doing somethingoutside of class.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:49 AM
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What do you have to talk about? Go do at least three things this week that you haven't done before. Then you will have something to talk about. Doesn't have to be skydiving naked. Go to a beach you haven't been to, or a bar you haven't been to. Take a class, do some improv, take a dance class, do a color run. Do this regularly, and you'll be the most interesting guy in the room.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:46 AM
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Wrong mindset.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:43 AM
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The fact that people on the internet keep posting it, because it's the only rule they have ever seen does not mean anyone uses it in real life.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:42 AM
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Not everyone has friends to go out with. What's he supposed to do, stay home until he has friends?
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:39 AM
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Next week I'm moving to a slightly smaller but more vibrant and youth friendly city "If your circumstances suck, change them." Good luck with the new city!
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:38 AM
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Dude, your problem is not that you can't get laid. there is no hope for me This is a totally valid reason to talk to someone. Please do.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:35 AM
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It can. And what's the consequences if it comes off weird? You didn't manage to smoothly talk to one woman. And you probably didn't annoy her particularly, since you didn't hang around. Then you try again with the next one, and gradually, you get better. Without major stress, or annoying the shit out of a bunch of women.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:31 AM
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Listen to this guy!
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:30 AM
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Seriously. Start small. So many people claim you should go from zero to full fledged pickup in one step. If you can't make yourself try to pickup women on cold approaches, work up to it: Just talk to people. Then build from there.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:29 AM
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He's not scripting it. He's giving examples. It's helpful to see how other people approach things. I wouldn't say all of them, but it's still interesting to see someone else's take on it.
/r/seduction10/03/17 05:26 AM
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"There are a few locations across town." What? You are asking her out, and you don't know where you are going? What was she going to say to that? So, she didn't.
/r/seduction09/03/17 02:51 AM
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Simple note from another thread: Make sure the room is set up so you sit close together. Obvious once you think about it, but it's hard to recover from, if you don't.
/r/seduction08/03/17 03:56 PM
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It's college, there should be lots of cheap opportunities. Clubs, campus events, parties Go do everything you can find the time for, and talk to people while you do it.
/r/seduction08/03/17 05:47 AM
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I regret not trying more than I regret trying and missing.
/r/seduction08/03/17 05:35 AM
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I think it gives a generic vibe, which some may identify with bad pickup artists. Use a situational opener, and avoid the whole mess.
/r/seduction08/03/17 05:34 AM
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So, no, don't use "The Shogun Method" And a Nigerian Prince is not going to send you money.
/r/seduction08/03/17 05:27 AM
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the shogun method Ok, I just googled that. If you haven't learned yet, go look at the website for this. That's what a complete bullshit website looks like. All the lame, cheesy tricks to try to get you "invested". It's the website equivalent of a shitty pickup artist. Fucking endless scrolling. Fucking ridiculous promises that no-one who has gotten laid in the last decade would believe. OOoh, look he's got a secret. Oh, boy, I better click on that. but wait there's more it'll be worth it keep sc…
/r/seduction08/03/17 05:26 AM
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Yes.
/r/seduction08/03/17 05:20 AM
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If you give her a different time, she won't feel like you are ghosting. And it's more polite to let her know as early as possible.
/r/seduction08/03/17 05:20 AM
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He already said it all. Show, don't tell. Be confident, be clear on what you want. Make it clear.
/r/seduction08/03/17 05:18 AM
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Intense isn't necessarily bad. Needy comes from needing social interaction. We all need some. That's why you should go out and get some. Then you won't be so needy around women you want to date. Social interaction is much easier than seduction, but it builds fundamentals and makes you feel better.
/r/seduction08/03/17 04:22 AM
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Go for drinks. Have a bed you can take her to. You'll do fine.
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:41 AM
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It's the text equivalent of LMR. She's online dating to meet people, so you know she interested if she's talking to you. i barely know you "Exactly. Let's fix that" "And you are still a mystery to me. But I'm intrigued." "Absolutely - and we're here to get to know people better" "and XXX is a good way to get to know each other" (coffee, whatever) "And I barely know you, but I already know I want to know you better" I mean, some people are going to be flakes. But one bit of hesitation isn't a dis…
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:39 AM
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I think you covered it pretty well. Keep it up!
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:33 AM
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If you say that cold, I think you are going home alone. (depends on how much attraction you have built so far). As /u/ThirtyWize says, that's kind of all or nothing. If you flirt, kino, and escalate up until the point that it fits, go for it. Hug her, compliment her, touch her, and let your intentions show non-verbally. Personally, I'd rather get to that point and then say "I want you". She'll figure out the "sex" part, and it sounds much better. But let us know what you try, and how it goes. go…
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:32 AM
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How do women perceive guys that don't mind that much. Bland, boring, weak. Should I start just saying what I prefer even though I'm ok with other things Yes. And don't be a bland potato about it - own it. "I love this place's tacos. Let's go". Also should I preface it by saying I'd prefer x but am fine with y? You don't need to. She can come up with ideas, if she wants to. In general, ladies like leaders. They want you to have a plan, not to push all the responsibility onto them. It's totally ok…
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:28 AM
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Be social. Spend as much time as you can talking to people. Not just women you are attracted to, but everyone: young, old, male, female, etc.
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:21 AM
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Agree with all but the texting part. She's already into you. Text when you want to see her again.
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:19 AM
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Think of some fun things to do, and suggest one of them.
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:17 AM
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Go over to /r/tinder/ and get your profile critiqued. You can't get any help if you don't give any information.
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:16 AM
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Let me make this clear: Your problem is NOT that you aren't getting laid. Go read "Models" by Mark Manson. Also, seriously, talk to somebody, soon. Probably somebody professional. You're hurting man, get help. (We'll do what we can, but this is a pickup forum, not a therapy forum). From my perspective: Dude, you have to work on your life and yourself first. The women come from that. Trust me, making your life better is FUN. As /u/HansGigole said, "if you don't like you, why should she?". Stop lo…
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:15 AM
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two truisms: 1) Fake it until you make it 2) Practice makes perfect Pretend to be more outgoing if you have to, then do it enough to get comfortable.
/r/seduction07/03/17 04:59 AM
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Getting called a player is not necessarily bad. I think she's just looking for reassurance that she will be more than tonight's quick fuck. Isolate and escalate. Now, her friends aren't going to want her with a player. So isolating is important. Her friend told a friend of mine that she wanted a real men and not a player. Friends aren't gonna like a player. Get her away from them, and she'll go for you. You have to convince her that you are into her, though. two things stand out: Walking to my c…
/r/seduction05/03/17 06:01 PM
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Start small and escalate. Pay attention. She's probably into you.
/r/seduction05/03/17 05:50 PM
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You'll get a better range of advice if you post. This is the internet, you have no way of knowing if the person responding has gotten laid this year. And different people will have advice that may or may not work for you.
/r/seduction05/03/17 05:49 PM
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This is great.
/r/seduction05/03/17 05:45 PM
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I think your understanding of what happened is good. It will be hard to recover, I'm afraid. If you want to try to recover this, go ahead and hangout as friends. Leave it as friends for a while while also seeing other women. Then try to escalate. But, to be honest, I expect her to ghost, if you try to be friends.
/r/seduction05/03/17 09:19 AM
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Usually when people tell me things like I'm weird, awkward, etc. I laugh and say, "I'm glad you think so" Sounds good. I legitimately respond politely, in which they act confused or perplexed. Also good. A man is in control of himself, and not easily provoked. Really, you sound like you just need some more practice. Keep up what you are doing. Talk to more people. Find the ones that like your sense of humor, let the other ones settle for someone else.
/r/seduction05/03/17 06:06 AM
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Sounds like basketball is like the girl you can't have. You can't do it now, so find something else fun. (Yes, all you want to do is play bball. That's a symptom. Go out and try some new shit). How to find stuff: Ask people what the most fun thing to do near campus is. It's a great opener, too. When you go to that event, ask people there the same question. Read the bulletin boards on campus Google: campus events, campus clubs, things to do in XXYY As an example, I googled small colleges and took…
/r/seduction04/03/17 06:32 PM
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There are groups for single parents. Try one.
/r/seduction04/03/17 06:14 PM
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Suggest meeting outside of project meetings.
/r/seduction04/03/17 06:10 PM
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Do something other than pickup. Co-ed volleyball, hiking, anything. Hanging out with people while having fun and interacting is how you make friends. Works for men and women.
/r/seduction04/03/17 06:08 PM
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So I'm a sarcastic person, always try to make people laugh and smile, etc. but I also want to have deeper conversations with people and learn more about them. For a single conversation, pick one of the above. People won't open up if you are being snarky.
/r/seduction04/03/17 06:04 PM
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Best way to not live in the past is to have a good present. Go out, have fun, meet more women. She'll fade.
/r/seduction04/03/17 06:01 PM
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I think you are advertising for it. You already posted a direct link with no content, in violation of the rules.
/r/seduction04/03/17 05:59 PM
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Exactly.
/r/seduction04/03/17 03:00 AM
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Most men I know are sexually frustrated Then you are probably hanging out in the wrong places.
/r/seduction04/03/17 02:58 AM
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Depends where you are.
/r/seduction04/03/17 02:57 AM
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Good FR. Keep 'em coming. I don't think you need much help from us, but it will help others to read them.
/r/seduction04/03/17 02:53 AM
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my roommate says she might have just seen it as friends hanging out. Who cares? You are not going to do something moronic like say "so, is this date, or what?" Go out, have fun escalate. You got this.
/r/seduction04/03/17 02:50 AM
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It doesn't matter how dumb it is, there is someone out there that believes it. Why on earth would you try to generalize something like this across all women? That's astrology level thinking.
/r/seduction04/03/17 02:46 AM
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Do something new, something cool, something different. Something you can talk about with the next girl you have a conversation with.
/r/seduction04/03/17 02:40 AM
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Fill your life with activity. In college? Join clubs, organizations, groups. Organize them for extra points. People obsess to fill a void in their life. If your life is overflowing with activities and people, there won't be a hole to fill.
/r/seduction04/03/17 02:39 AM
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Get a better life. If you are going hiking on Monday, Clubbing on Tuesday, and dancing on Wednesday, you won't notice if shes not there. But she'll notice you aren't around. Studying for exams is good. Having a job pays off as soon as you graduate.
/r/seduction04/03/17 02:37 AM
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You misspelled "enemy"
/r/seduction04/03/17 02:35 AM
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Or am I dramatizing this and the numbers are better? Dramatizing. You are assuming a negative with no evidence. It's a great way to be depressed all of your life. So what if they have a boyfriend, talk to them. Pickup is helped by having female friends. Make some. You can figure out if they have a boyfriend later.
/r/seduction04/03/17 02:34 AM
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Practice with people you don't want to fuck. Make friends. This will make you more relaxed with women.
/r/seduction03/03/17 05:49 AM
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It's great to check-in, and see what feedback people are giving you. Just don't take it as truth, take it it as one person's perspective.
/r/seduction03/03/17 05:30 AM
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Sorry, typo. I meant "If you are only 26, you'll have a lot more chances." I didn't really start coming out of my shell until around then. Lots of fun since.
/r/seduction03/03/17 05:19 AM
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Start with other kinds of rejection? This is a mildly fun book on the subject: https://www.amazon.com/Rejection-Proof-Became-Invincible-Through/dp/080414138X Can't ask for a date, ask to borrow her pen, take a picture. Ask someone you don't want to fuck for a ridiculous favor. Get used to rejection, and your life will change.
/r/seduction03/03/17 05:17 AM
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Stop snapping and talk to women in the real world?
/r/seduction03/03/17 05:14 AM
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I call her up instead of texting her Why are you calling instead of texting? Most people prefer text to set up a meet. (by "people" I mean ones that haven't decided if the want you). Phone calls are interruptions, and most people don't want them. Call her later? Twice in one day? I tell her my schedule's flexible So, nothing better to do. I called her... Call her later Ok, you are coming off a bit needy. Not that hard to fix. it's like all these girls are just flakes without boyfriends Not good.…
/r/seduction03/03/17 05:09 AM
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There are no questions in your post, nor is there actionable advice.
/r/seduction02/03/17 04:28 PM
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Smile and continue the conversation. Don't laugh, and don't feel the need to say it back. What you are doing is acting exactly like one of her girlfriends would, and she's not gonna sleep with them (probably :-)
/r/seduction02/03/17 04:26 PM
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we ended up snapchatting all the time. After a couple of months, That seems like a long time. I think you let her get cold, and she got bored and she moved on. Ask her out, she'll either say "yes" or "no". Either way is better than wasting time thinking "if only".
/r/seduction02/03/17 04:23 PM
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Just say "Have fun"! Then go have fun yourself.
/r/seduction02/03/17 04:21 PM
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She's available. You haven't convinced her yet, but she's listening. Keep doing what you are doing, it's all good. Nothing is guaranteed, but you have a reasonable chance. and I didn't feed into it Good I considered saying we could share the pillow I think that would have been good.
/r/seduction02/03/17 04:19 PM
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A time? Or a time and place and activity? If you say "are you free Thursday night", without telling her what you are doing, she's going to say "no", unless you have built a lot of attraction. She doesn't want to get stuck on some endless date, or watching monster trucks, or bass fishing. Invite her to do something specific. Give as a FR, and people will give you suggestions.
/r/seduction02/03/17 04:14 PM
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You aren't giving us enough to go on. How are you trying to get them to sleep with you? It's probably something in the way you are trying to close, give us an example of what you do.
/r/seduction02/03/17 04:12 PM
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No, it just shows a lack of (emotional) intelligence. "Things that are important to me are the only things that are important, because they are important to me. If other people aren't interested, they must be stupid". They are currently more interested in social intelligence, as that is what pays off for them. Trust me, they are better at it than you are, and they are making the same sort of judgments about your lack of social intelligence. Learn to appreciate that people are different. Find the…
/r/seduction02/03/17 04:07 PM
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"Confront" sounds so ... confrontational. Like you are going to demand she tell you how she feels, because it's bothering you that you can't figure it out. This rarely ends well, as it makes you appear needy, and not in control of your emotions. If she's willing to go on a date, she's probably at least mildly interested. Keep coming up with ideas, see if you can leave Mom & Sis out of it on the next date. Relax. Cultivate the abundance mentality. Tell yourself there are plenty of other girls out…
/r/seduction02/03/17 03:59 PM
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At 27, you'll have a lot more chances. And you've learned something: next time, and there will be next time, you'll move faster, have more fun, and get better results.
/r/seduction02/03/17 03:47 PM
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Exercise is good.
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:19 AM
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Sunday: short convo, Tuesday: short conve, Wednesday: set up Why wait? Text is boring, use it to set up a meeting. Not to have multiple conversations that are just filler until you are brave enough to ask her out. It's tinder. Set up a meeting, then meet.
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:15 AM
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Yeah, now do this with five other girls. Then you won't obsess.
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:11 AM
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Work with what you have. Add what you can. It can work.
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:11 AM
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Wow. That's a lot. I'd spend any time you have left over on making your life better. Do fun things. And sleeping. That's not going to help with seduction, but you probably need it. Burnout is a possibility. Have fun where you can find it.
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:09 AM
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Smile first, then look.
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:05 AM
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Hand the trigger to the girl, and say "let me know if I'm bothering you." :-)
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:04 AM
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Don't sit there and wonder if you should approach. Do it within 3 seconds.
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:03 AM
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Thanks for the FR. so I quickly bring up something else to make it like the kiss was nothing. Why? I don't think words are required at that point. "ok we're doing this... you nervous?" I thought you were going to bang her in the park :-) You are doing a great job, but I have to ask: why didn't you take these girls home? I think you could have closed all three of them, that night. What's the problem, logistics? No place to take them?
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:02 AM
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Good FR. Get better wingmen :-) To be honest I don't think I'm very attractive Don't self criticize, don't self compliment. Just be. Keep the reports coming.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:53 AM
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Live an interesting life.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:50 AM
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Don't feed the trolls.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:48 AM
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Be passionate, not emotional.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:46 AM
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I dated someone like you once. Didn't like it. You can invent a reason why anything in the fucking world won't work. We don't care. Do, or do not. There is no whine. Do you want women in your life? Then do shit. We can help you come up with ideas, you can ignore them. It's your right to have a shitty a life as you want. Yeah, nice idea besides I don't give a fuck about any of these. Learn to give a fuck - and go watch the movie "Yes, Man". It's terrible, but watch it anyway, it's about you. Then…
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:44 AM
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Bars are just one option. There are so many others.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:34 AM
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Volunteer work is great. Do it. Reading is a hobby. :-) Try a book club.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:33 AM
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Talk to her. You don't have to seduce her in one day. Just talk - even say hello in passing. Take a first step.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:31 AM
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1) That's not a neg, that's being a dick. asked me if said place a has bicyles to hire She just asked you out, and you insulted her? Of course she ghosted. Women don't like being turned down. Do not get so caught up in running a routine, like cocky-funny, that you forget to pay attention to the person you are talking to.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:30 AM
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I ask her when she's free to hang out "Hi, I want you to commit to meeting me, without having a clue what we will do." Of course she's ghosting, you aren't trying for a date, you are trying to back her into a corner. "Hey, I'm going to see <localband> at <localclub> tonight. You should come." If you can relate this to something she said, add that, "hey, you like ska..." Place, time, activity. You have a plan, you are a man.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:25 AM
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Me posting this here, probably petty.. Helping others, aiming to be better yourself. Not petty. Solid post.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:15 AM
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90% of people act negatively like your annoying, stop being so weird If they are the people you care about, then listen to /u/Big_TX But lots of people will criticize someone who stands out. Ask yourself, "is this working for me?". Are right people laughing? Is the guy you are stealing the girl from complaining? Good :-)
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:13 AM
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Practice matters more than reading. Seduction is more like a sport than it is like calculus. Some study is good, but practice matters more.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:10 AM
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Fantastic. This is how it starts. Now, go do something fun or cool or exiting or unusual, so you have something to talk about if you ever see her again. Don't give her the feeling that all you did was sit at home, dreaming about seeing her again.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:08 AM
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/r/nudes This is /r/seduction not /r/faptoictureswhileforeveralone
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:00 AM
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Same way you do anywhere else. But be cautious about this. I think it's a bit of a dick move to hit on someone who can't get away from you, and might have her job on the line if she's rude to you. If you can chat up girls in day game, and leave them with a smile, then ok. Leave the working girl with a smile. If you are still awkward, then no. Save it for later.
/r/seduction02/03/17 06:58 AM
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But the truth be told I wouldn't wish myself on my worst enemy Work on this, the rest will follow. This is what is limiting you, not your looks. Trust me, I'm a 5 or 6, too.
/r/seduction02/03/17 06:50 AM
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This is correct. Note the subtle difference between what OP said, and this. should i ask her directly how she feels about me Passive. "ask how she feels". Puts all the weight on her ask her out. Active. You choose the activity, you choose the time. Do this.
/r/seduction02/03/17 06:38 AM
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I'll add some insight. Just touching a girl in a way that her brother or boss could touch her won't do jack shit Do you think that this kind of touch can act as a lead-in to more intimate touching?
/r/seduction02/03/17 06:32 AM
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Most of us were you at some point. I'm gonna guess that you made the common mistake. Trying to be "nice", so she'll like you. Let me save you some time, it doesn't work. not because "nice" is bad, but because "follower" is bad. This is how guys end up in the friend zone - because women don't see a man who follows them around and agrees with everything they say as boyfriend material. If everything you do tells her that, in your opinion, you'd be lucky to get her, she'll believe you. Or, in other …
/r/seduction02/03/17 06:23 AM
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I posted a field Report on a popular pickup blog recently, and everyone was telling me that I need more structure and to start investigating 'routines'. Everyone has their own opinions, and each forum tends to have a bit of an identity. The issue with routines is not that they don't work, but that you need a steady stream of new women - women who don't talk to each other. Otherwise you are likely to get called out as a pickup artist, and make yourself unwelcome.
/r/seduction28/02/17 03:25 AM
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Don't do this. No advertisements with no content. If you have something to say, say it, and maybe post a link. But a link with no content is just spam.
/r/seduction28/02/17 03:11 AM
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Sounds like south park.
/r/seduction27/02/17 06:38 AM
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Less whiskey :-)
/r/seduction27/02/17 06:29 AM
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Well, next time, before she comes over, think logistics. Where do I want her to sit? Drag the furniture around. Stuff the stuff you don't want her sitting on away. Or Leave something on it. Move it so it doesn't face the TV. Leave it so there's only one good seat - preferably a small couch, but whatever works. Do advance planning. Think through the whole evening, and set yourself for success.
/r/seduction27/02/17 03:55 AM
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If it's how you you look, grow a beard, you'll look ten years older. That's probably not it, but give it a try. Then you can move on to other things.
/r/seduction27/02/17 03:50 AM
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Start some hobbies that women actually show up for. For example, another thread mentioned music festivals.
/r/seduction27/02/17 03:42 AM
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Be the sort of person who keeps commitments, to friends, and to dates. She will not respect you for cancelling a friend for her, she'll see you as weak. Don't cancel dates for friends. Of course, special circumstances (someone in the hospital) are ok. But be a person whose word is good.
/r/seduction26/02/17 08:32 PM
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a buddy who was talking to a girl and would ditch us Not abundance mentality. He's afraid he wont get another chance.
/r/seduction26/02/17 08:28 PM
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Neither. Treat people with respect. Don't cancel on friends or dates because something better comes up. Don't hit on your friend's partners/targets. People who treat girls like hoes with are also the people who will steal your girl. So avoid people who say 'bros before hoes'
/r/seduction26/02/17 08:26 PM
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Get off reddit. It can suck so much time, and it's so easy. It makes other things less appealing. Keep trying stuff.
/r/seduction26/02/17 08:23 PM
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Different people have different opinions. Most people into pickup with say "of course". Many women will say "of course not". To me, it really depends on your level of skill. I'm not into the "annoy 1000 women to get one to sleep with me" style of pickup. Can you do it, and have her be comfortable? Then it was fine. Are you still at the awkward and slightly creepy stage? Then stick to more common social situations - like someone in your class. I wouldn't drop myself down at a bus stop, and say "y…
/r/seduction26/02/17 04:38 AM
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If they don't understand how much this will help with pickup, they need to keep learning. Social proof is basic. So is the idea that the more people you know, they more women you have opportunities with. OP is totally correct.
/r/seduction26/02/17 04:27 AM
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Did anyone know you liked the girl? Shy people sometimes are so good at hiding their feelings that neither the girl, nor anyone else has any idea. If he did know, and he hit on her anyway, you need a best friend, because you don't have one. You might talk to him. "Dude, did you know I was chasing her?" If he did, that's a dick move, and he's a dick. If not, well, you should be more obvious in the future. It may be too late to salvage this one. But that's ok. Really. You did this, you can do it a…
/r/seduction26/02/17 04:24 AM
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There are a couple of parts to this. I'm far too physically repulsive (even though I sometimes get told I look okay) ... Maybe talk to a therapist on that part. As for the pickup part: What you are feeling is actually depressingly common. It's not irrational, it's just exaggerated. First step to getting over it: stop reading the media that exaggerates everything and makes everything into drama, because it sells. No more Cosmo for you :-) The simple truth is women don't hate compliments, interest…
/r/seduction26/02/17 04:17 AM
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You're inventing an issue where there is none. Just proceed assuming that it wasn't her. I'm worried this will give me a bad rep for approaching her out of the blue like that. No, it won't. One conversation will not give you a reputation. I understand you are worried, but don't inflate possibilities into paralysis.
/r/seduction26/02/17 03:34 AM
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I think giving us a situation might help. It's hard to know how your getting stuck, if we don't know where you are.
/r/seduction26/02/17 03:20 AM
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It's okay to feel jealous, but don't let that ruin your relationship. I agree with everything but this. Work on yourself, OP. This is your issue, not hers.
/r/seduction26/02/17 03:17 AM
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Anyone else think she's crushing on the other guy, but he's not that into her? She's not going to be very available, if she's already caught.
/r/seduction26/02/17 03:15 AM
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You did great. She's happy, you're happy. No-one around you is offended, or likely even noticed. Key things that make it comfortable: be relaxed, and don't try to force the outcome. You ignored her for a while, talked when found a common interest, and were willing to talk, and willing to stop when it was time. She initiated the conversation next time, so you know she's comfortable. You escalated slowly, and built comfort. Really nicely done. Welcome to America.
/r/seduction25/02/17 09:37 AM
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Enjoy the change!
/r/seduction25/02/17 09:29 AM
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It's a terrible opening, most commonly used by people who then come to seddit, and ask why they've opened 200 women with zero success. It'd bad because forces her to make a snap judgement: Is this guy attractive? If you are Ryan Gosling, great. If not, congratulations, you are now in a hole you've dug for yourself by showing too much interest too fast.
/r/seduction25/02/17 09:25 AM
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What's masf?
/r/seduction24/02/17 08:13 AM
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Keep practicing. You'll get better. Sounds like you are having some fun while you practice. Enjoy.
/r/seduction24/02/17 08:12 AM
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Don't try? I just open my arms, they can walk in if they want. Usually just enough. If she starts to reciprocate, i open wider, and we hug. I never go in for a hug unless it's someone I always hug.
/r/seduction24/02/17 08:11 AM
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but I feel inclined to just tell her when I see her in the hall, "hey what yours name? Just wanted to say you're absolutely beautiful." Great way to say "I've noticed absolutely nothing about you, but I want to fuck you". That's gonna end well. Seriously. You don't even know her name. Don't really want anything else Yes, you do. You want to fuck her brains out, but you are afraid to admit it, because you think it's impossible. But that's the root of all this. You know what really helps your game…
/r/seduction24/02/17 08:06 AM
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Go out, and do things for you. Find a cool hobby you love, for you. Travel, for you. Be the kind of person people respect, and you won't need them to tell you that you have it.
/r/seduction24/02/17 07:55 AM
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She seemed really flustered and started talking and how she 'used to hook up' but now she's sick of being used, etc. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "she 'used to hook up' but now she's sick of being used, etc. ". I don't think there was anything wrong with your approach, it was just wrong for this girl, at this time. Probably because she has seen it run too many times before. I think, for this girl where it went wrong was "a kiss to which she had zero response.". Zero response is almost a st…
/r/seduction24/02/17 07:53 AM
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If she fucked you it was serious, if she didn't, it wasn't. Not even she knows in advance.
/r/seduction24/02/17 07:38 AM
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Be genuinely interested in other people. Ask questions to understand things, not just to make noise. Be prepared to talk about yourself a bit. Research the company, too.
/r/seduction24/02/17 07:37 AM
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Given you don't have years to develop keen social skills/wit/charm/etc. Keep in mind, you've been like this your whole life, so changing over night is not possible. Just naturally not witty and takes time to process and respond. So, "how do I do none of the work, and still get the benefits?". You don't. At least, I wouldn't. You could 1) Pay someone 2) Sleep with someone way below your market value. 3) Stand outside the football stadium and ask everyone who goes by if they will sleep with you. (…
/r/seduction24/02/17 07:35 AM
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Yes, you were being oblivious. Girls don't like being turned down, so you may have missed your chance. But try again on your next hang out. This is a general rule, and it covers this situation: If she touches you, touch her a bit more than she touched you (or more intimately). If she responds positively, keep escalating. Repeat.
/r/seduction24/02/17 12:11 AM
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Definitely don't say any of those lines.
/r/seduction24/02/17 12:06 AM
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People get braces. People with braces still manage to date. No, it's not a plus, but it doesn't have to stop you. Two choices: Pretend girls don't exist for two years, or work with what you have. You'll be a lot happier with choice (b).
/r/seduction23/02/17 09:40 PM
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then usually cut the conversation off and ask for a number. Why? If it's not working, change it up. Try different approaches. Talk longer, try and find something emotional to talk about, and relate to her on thatt. Talk longer, and suggest walking to the on campus coffee shop Be more obvious about attraction Try avoiding the "what's your major", and go for something more memorable.
/r/seduction23/02/17 04:05 PM
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Stay in the present. Don't live in the future ("She's perfect, we could get married"), don't live in the past ("She's the only girl I'll ever love"). The present is the happy place. Focus on what you are doing in the now. It will make you happier, and it's the fastest thing you can do to improve results.
/r/seduction23/02/17 03:56 PM
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Decent write-up by a beginner, making beginner mistakes. Some of which he notices. Don't take any thing he says as gospel, but its a decent read.
/r/seduction23/02/17 03:53 PM
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However I didn't approach her since I followed the 3 second rule. No, you didn't understand the rule. It is "approach within 3 seconds, period", not "use this rule as an excuse to be passive.". You took a rule of thumb designed to get you moving, and used it as an excuse not to move. So, what are you going to do the next time you see an interesting girl?
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:55 AM
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"an expert" Might want to examine that claim a little more closely...
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:40 AM
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I think its the easiest place to get laid I don't. Day game is easier.
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:12 AM
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Make friends, be social, do group activities, join clubs. i would get oneitis, get needy sooner or later - then she would dump me It's so much more efficient to be depressed about things that haven't happened yet. Save the whole trouble of actually doing anything.
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:11 AM
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this girl in my class Ask about homework going to the bars Ask how to get the first girl. (ok, that last is probably bad advice, but could be a fun topic to play with).
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:07 AM
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Normally, I would say "don't" on gym pickup, but if she talks to you first, go for it. Since most women avoid talking to people at the gym, that's a pretty strong IOI. Forget Facebook. Go direct to post workout date - the endorphins are pumping. Starbucks and see how it goes.
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:04 AM
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The key thing to making a conversation is to have something to say. Go do something unusual, or several things. It will make you a better, more interesting person.
/r/seduction23/02/17 05:59 AM
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You posted in [amiugly](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/5r5ywt/me_21_m_are_talking_to_one_girl_21fvia_internet/dd644eu/] and everyone said you weren't ugly. seddit is for people who want to do the best with what they have, not whine. If you want to whine , try /r/incel Or, more seriously, try therapy. You need more help than we can give.
/r/seduction23/02/17 05:54 AM
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Think of something fun to do. Next time you talk to her, drop "I'm gonna do X" into the conversation. If she expresses interest, invite her along.
/r/seduction23/02/17 05:49 AM
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"I don't want to kiss if we're not having sex," is about the neediest thing you could say He didn't say it, she did. she said "okay I don't want to keep kissing..."
/r/seduction23/02/17 05:46 AM
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I think the girl said that.
/r/seduction23/02/17 05:45 AM
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Listen to R-o-b-e-r-t!
/r/seduction23/02/17 05:36 AM
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as in girls barely knowing you exist outside of physical interaction You say that like it's a bad thing. I think physical interaction is the goal of this sub. Not collecting "likes".
/r/seduction23/02/17 05:34 AM
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How would I set it up? like this: We've been touchy-feely with each other so far; playfully punching each other, brushing up, stood in line waiting for drinks casually pushing each other with our elbows, etc. Then you put your arm around her. then if that goes well (it will, she likes you) face her, and put the other arm on her waist. (face her), smile. wait a moment. if she smiles back, or tilts her head, gently go in for the kiss. (this is one of a thousand ways it could play out. Just an exam…
/r/seduction21/02/17 12:00 AM
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Find group activities you like, and do them. Then you are doing warm approaches on the people you meet. You will already have something in common.
/r/seduction20/02/17 11:54 PM
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Don't stay inside. Stop sitting in front of your computer. Stare at the walls for a few hours without your electronic baby sitter, and you'll be motivated to go out and do something. If you are going to rap, rap publicly. Get some attention. Are there open mics for rap? I don't know. Find out. You can work out at home. Google for ideas. meetups/classes/clubs/activities. Again, Google it. Stop doing the things that don't count, if you want something to change.
/r/seduction20/02/17 11:52 PM
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You are right, it can be a lot harder than college. Look for groups. Want to work out? Don't life at an all male gym, find a pilates class. Bonus: girls will be fit! Yoga, kickboxing, hiking etc. /u/meowfix is right, Check out meetup.com. In many larger cities, there are tons of group activities. Look for salsa/swing/blues dance places. Take the classes.
/r/seduction20/02/17 05:16 PM
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Go out and do something interesting. It will give you something to talk about. Doesn't have to be bungee jumping from a plane that's on fire. Going to an art show at a local museum will do. Go out and do things, it will really help.
/r/seduction20/02/17 05:07 PM
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Ok. I did. See below. You are either trying to be incredibly helpful, or trying to sell stuff. Please don't do this. Taking conversations private defeats the entire purpose of a subreddit. Post the advice for everyone to see, and comment on, and it benefits everyone. Take the conversation private, and No one else benefits Bad advice goes unchallenged. So it's bad for the community, and generally not a good idea for the recipient of the advice. There is a place for PMs. Private information, setti…
/r/seduction19/02/17 07:43 PM
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Video yourself doing things, and watch it. This is usually uncomfortable to watch, but will give you a really good view of what you actually do. Taking classes that have an effect on posture might help: Acting, Ballroom Dancing, Gymnastics, etc.
/r/seduction19/02/17 07:27 PM
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E) Drink less. Puking is not a pickup technique. :-)
/r/seduction19/02/17 06:34 PM
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Don't know if it applies to you, but it's really common. Once you have a girl friend, you lose desperation and neediness, and gain confidence. Moral of the story: act like you are already sure you are getting laid tonight.
/r/seduction18/02/17 09:26 PM
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They look straight past me or down the pavement when we cross paths Pretty much happens to everybody. Don't take it personally. Women don't feel safe a lot of the time. And they are good at spotting repressed anger. I had most things come easy to me in life One of the things that sucks about being good at school, is that it doesn't teach you to work hard. Hard work is where success in life comes from. Expect to put in time to learning relationships and social interaction. It's what every one doe…
/r/seduction18/02/17 07:31 PM
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Lots of definitions of friend zone out there. Mine: When you are hanging around with someone, because you want to sleep with them. And not being honest about what you want, and never making a move - hoping she'll somehow notice what a great guy you are. I have a lot of good looking female friends, some of whom I'd cheerfully bang. But that's not why I hang around with them, and I'm totally upfront about the attraction, if it comes up. You are talking about hanging out with her only because you w…
/r/seduction18/02/17 07:06 PM
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She thinks you're hot.
/r/seduction18/02/17 06:49 PM
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Here's how to do it right: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/5uqt4y/5_years_100_chicks_later_heres_a_distilled/ Providing a bunch of information. Getting my interest. Now I'm reading his blog.
/r/seduction18/02/17 06:15 PM
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That's a pretty awkward attempt to advertise your blog. Better to give before you get, it gives you credibility, and creates interest. Put a good answer, and people will start to respect you, and be interested in what you have to say. This is the equivalent of a cheesy, canned pickup line that people have heard a hundred times before.
/r/seduction18/02/17 06:12 PM
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I don't want to go back to gym because i don't like that. Which do you care more about pussy or gym? Doing the things you need to do, to get what you want is discipline. Makes all the difference in your life. And there are thousands of things you can do to get in shape. And there are lots of problems in life that will make it hard to get laid. Skinny isn't one of them. Just let it go.
/r/seduction18/02/17 05:49 PM
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Nervous can go either way. Was she "girl in a horror movie nervous" or "talking to a cute guy nervous"? Pay attention, and learn to tell the difference. Either way, try to make them feel comfortable. (Don't be nervous yourself is a good first step). Hint: Blushing is the good kind of nervous.
/r/seduction18/02/17 05:46 PM
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I don't know if I want to be friends with her or be more than that. Duh. You want to be more. You can't have it right now. Do you A) get oneitis, and be a whiny bitch, or B) have an abundance mentality? The reality is you are not being friends with her, you are hanging around her pretending, while trying to get laid. That is the friend zone, and you are doing it to yourself. Treat her like she has a dick. Hang with her if she's interesting, don't if she's not. If you can't be friends with attrac…
/r/seduction18/02/17 05:42 PM
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If women react differently when you are in a relationship, maybe you act differently when you are in a relationship.
/r/seduction18/02/17 09:23 AM
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Sounds like your neighbor is doing what pleases him. The women he gets will be the ones who like what they see, and he won't waste time with others. A great time-saver. And he's having fun while he does it. A better question would be "what's the difference between living your life, and just going through the motions?"
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:36 PM
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Are you doing anything with your life? It's so much easier to keep a conversation going, if you have something to talk about. If you were having fun then, and being a grind now, you may have nothing interesting to say. Go do something interesting.
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:34 PM
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Happy. Happy is good.
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:32 PM
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"I send things into space". If you can't get laid off of that, there's no hope for the rest of us.
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:30 PM
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Keep practicing. Review what happened afterward. Save the good stuff, cancel the bad stuff. Repeat.
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:29 PM
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Go read "models". Have a life, the rest will follow.
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:24 PM
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http://www.azquotes.com/quote/723064 "You want to be a writer? A writer is someone who writes every day, so start writing. You don't have a job? Get one. Any job. Don't sit at home waiting for the magical opportunity. Who are you? Prince William? No. Get a job. Go to work. Do something until you can do something else."
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:21 PM
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Oh, look. An ad.
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:16 PM
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It's tinder. It's not like she's going to be offended if you want to hook up. There isn't really any worry about moving too fast. Directionless is bad. Don't do it. Ask her out. Make it awkward. Move out of your comfort zone. How can I fix this ? Stop being terrified of moving forward. Tinder Challenge: Next match, you have TEN message to get to meeting up. No more. So with every message, you think "does this move things along". As /u/bcool47 says, find a point of commonality, and ask, based on …
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:08 PM
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I think you're sounding too eager in your texts. He's not eager enough. He's not ever asking for anything, just droning on. Agreed that he has no noticeable personality in the texts.
/r/seduction15/02/17 09:56 PM
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Read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/5tordh/having_success_with_this_tinder_strategy/ Looking at your conversations is almost painful. Don't just sit there asking question after question, it's tinder. Set up a time and place. "You'd like my room mate" "What's your major?" ??? "I''ll win either way". "Besides cooking, what do you enjoy?" ??? It's like a mindless question machine. You are cock-blocking yourself. Your goal is to meet up, and fuck her. Not to learn her major. If yo…
/r/seduction15/02/17 09:52 PM
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I'm not prepared to pounce on women Someone has issues. Talking to women who express an interest is not "pouncing". Deal with your unresolved issues, the rest will be easier. Probably why you are freezing. "I was still in LTR mode". You don't talk to people when you are in a relationship? No wonder you are rusty. Talk to everyone. You don't have to have sex with them. Talk to the little old lady at safeway, the Uber driver, the guy on the street, and yes, the hot girl at Best Buy. After that, if…
/r/seduction15/02/17 09:30 PM
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"Hey, my name is, I think you're pretty cute and I wanted to say hi" is that a bad opener? It's a terrible opener. It's a totally generic opener that only comments on her looks. Unless she's already in the right mood (at a party looking to get laid, or you are built like the Rock) it's going to have a negative impact. Go situational. At school, talk about the class. Find something distinctive about her appearance. (not "cute", "hot" or "pretty"). "Nice earrings, where did you find them?", etc.).…
/r/seduction15/02/17 09:23 PM
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High school is different. You don't need to close the first time you see a girl, since you'll be seeing her again. If you use techniques appropriate for a night club, you may be 'that weird guy'. Make friends, be interesting. Make a move when they show interest.
/r/seduction15/02/17 09:16 PM
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I immediately started touching a girl and just being sleazy Not sure that touching is being sleazy. If she's smiling, it's working. Sounds like you are good at connecting physically, in your normal approach. And, if you are usually end up in bed, you are building some attraction. On the ghost's date, did you escalate gradually to the kiss? Was there enough attraction built? I think that if most of your dates are ending up naked, but then fizzle, it's not your approach, it's your post date skills…
/r/seduction15/02/17 09:11 PM
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Agreed, except the "shall" part. :-)
/r/seduction15/02/17 08:59 PM
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Yes, I just made that up. But don't just read. It's like any other sport, you can learn things from a book, but you really can't learn how to do it without playing the game.
/r/seduction15/02/17 08:57 PM
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Remember, two hours practice for every hour reading.
/r/seduction15/02/17 08:56 PM
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i just wanna play it safe. The best place to be safe is the friend zone. Is that where you to be? She should feel safe (it's not her house, you could be a serial killer, etc.). You can be out of your comfort zone. I'd set them up in the guest bedroom. That way she knows you aren't automatically expecting sex. (That you want sex is pretty much a given from starting on Tinder). Make the friend feel comfortable on Friday. Don't make it obvious that you just want to have sex with her friend from the…
/r/seduction15/02/17 08:56 PM
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Humor is good, and the ability to talk is helpful. Most people need to be more like this. I say stuff that doesn't make sense Some people claim this doesn't matter, just talk to the ladies. You might want to think about if some of the humor is counter productive. E.g. Violent/racist/negative jokes. Make sure you aren't telling jokes and looking for approval. (for example, telling jokes, and looking around to see if anyone will laugh at your jokes). This marks you as lower status. Same for laughi…
/r/seduction15/02/17 08:36 PM
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I guess I'm afraid of rejection You, me, and everyone here. At least to start with. Should I just message him? You can. I don't, as a guy, as most women just ignore random hellos on Facebook. You haven't built attraction yet. If you have a pretty profile pic, this may work for you. Rules are slightly different for ladies. Face to face is more interesting, and works better, IMHO. Especially for a "good looking" woman. Guys don't generally get the "stalker" feeling when a women talks to us. So it'…
/r/seduction15/02/17 08:22 PM
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Not to point out the obvious, but your friend is probably into you.
/r/seduction15/02/17 08:04 PM
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Great summary!
/r/seduction15/02/17 08:03 PM
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How's that working out for you?
/r/seduction13/02/17 02:35 AM
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Ladies of seddit who ask "how obvious do I have to be?", there you go :-)
/r/seduction13/02/17 02:33 AM
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Like them yes, need them, no. Don't over invest up front.
/r/seduction13/02/17 02:31 AM
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I didn't get the chance to talk to her. I have been trying for a while, but she is slippery. But she continued to talk to her boss almost the entire time. was nervous and looking at the table She didn't give me a chance to talk she pulled her hand away. I did this "hand touching" with many other women before, but none of them reacted this way. I felt that they like this "hand touching gesture". my intuition tells me that she is actually making this more difficult for me. Read the above, and then…
/r/seduction13/02/17 02:28 AM
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Maybe I was unclear when I said "you don't escalate next time" I meant "you don't escalate next time, you take her home this time" In other words, stop waiting and start doing. If she's smiling when you grab her ass, and asking for dick, it's time to give her dick.. Plan the logistics in advance. Invite her to something near your home or hers. ('wanna come over and study'? or 'I just got <movie she likes> on netflix. Let watch it tonight')
/r/seduction13/02/17 02:19 AM
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Why can't I escalate? Not sure what you mean. You should escalate. Start small, and build up again. But don't stop escalation unless she gives you a stop signal. A girl who says she needs a new " dick appointment " is being about as obvious as it gets. Obvious but necessary: Just because she was ready to jump your bones last time, doesn't guarantee she will next time, so start easy, work up to it. But work up to it in one night, there's no need to wait for next time.
/r/seduction13/02/17 02:16 AM
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Hittting the gym makes you feel better, emotionally. And makes you more attractive. Beyond that, you might want to talk to a counselor or something. There a limit to what strangers on the internet can provide.
/r/seduction13/02/17 02:11 AM
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Go out and have more fun. Raise your perceived value.
/r/seduction13/02/17 02:08 AM
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Communication is good!
/r/seduction13/02/17 02:08 AM
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Congrats on making the move. Next time, you'll make it faster. Enjoy your new-found confidence. Use it regularly.
/r/seduction13/02/17 02:05 AM
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Save the good ones you come up with for later. Practice, practice, practice. Plan ahead a little is fine. Just don't do to much of it. As you said spontaneous is better.
/r/seduction13/02/17 02:03 AM
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My goal is to lose my V card first Make your goal to have fun, and meet interesting people. The other one will come from that. Too many people focus on "I must get laid", and get nowhere, because woman can smell desperation a mile off. Have fun, be fun, be clear about what you want. Good luck.
/r/seduction13/02/17 01:59 AM
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Bwwaahahaha. Kids. :-) "The best time to plant a tree is 50 years ago. The second best time is today".
/r/seduction12/02/17 07:30 AM
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Well, I'm hoping you get your teeth cleaned regularly. So, you'll get another shot. But you deal with missed opportunities the usual way, you go on, with other women.
/r/seduction12/02/17 07:10 AM
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Yes, it would be dumb.
/r/seduction12/02/17 07:07 AM
1

Personally, I think that's not a great approach. Put in a tiny bit of effort, and try to complement something about her, rather than a totally generic "attractive".
/r/seduction12/02/17 07:06 AM
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Dude, work on getting some friends. You are too needy, so, of course, you hang on too tight. And you can't go back in time, you just go forward. Don't invest so much time in one girl, next time. yes, there will be a next time.
/r/seduction12/02/17 06:59 AM
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hahahaha!
/r/seduction12/02/17 06:52 AM
1

Need more details. That sounds strange. Maybe what you think of as frame, they think of as creepy.
/r/seduction12/02/17 06:49 AM
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More helpful reply: Usually people won't handwave unless they feel the need to physically warn you off. You may be standing too close, or leaning in to much. Or moving towards them. Don't focus your body language on them, be open to the room Try to look like you need to be somewhere, but wanted to stop and say "Hi". Do not completely focused on one girl. That can be creepy.
/r/seduction12/02/17 06:46 AM
1

Then you are pushing way too hard.
/r/seduction12/02/17 06:43 AM
2

Not terrible, but not great. At the party, she's in the mood, having second thoughts after is normal. I think "So since you attacked my face last night" might hit ASD. She doesn't want to think of herself as the kind of girl that will kiss random men at parties, even it she is. Nitpicking: "let me" is kind of passive. I think /u/lonewolf-chicago has a good follow up in his comment. Try that.
/r/seduction12/02/17 06:41 AM
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Ok, you pursued, you withdrew, she came back, fantastic. You are on your way to closing this one. And then this happened: "I reacted by saying she wasn't to enthusiastic when I first asked to hang out." She basically says she's interested in you, and you get all butt-hurt? Women don't generally like being the ones to put themselves on the line, because rejection sucks. She did it anyway, and you rejected her. Next time, when someone (anyone, not just someone you want to sleep with, anyone) is do…
/r/seduction12/02/17 06:34 AM
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Just don't stay home. Get out and DO. (gym, pickup, classes). It's ok to take some time out from dating to clean up your head. Go out, have fun, be you. Then, when you have your head on straight, get back in the game.
/r/seduction12/02/17 06:23 AM
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Pardon my english btw, not my main language I only understand the cultural context of the US. I don't know how that may translate to your context. Is it okay or a bad idea to offer her a flower on Valentine's Day, not in a "wanna go out with me?" way but more like a "i like you, so here's a flower, Happy Valentine's Day" It sends a clear message. That is "I wanna bang you, but I'm to beta to tell you". Don't feel bad, I've done it, when I knew less. And you had sense enough to ask before doing i…
/r/seduction12/02/17 06:20 AM
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Talk to everyone. Male, female, young, old, pretty, ugly. Practice is how you get better. People that only talk to pretty girls as boring as fuck, and it's obvious. Talking to people you don't want to sleep with is how you learn to talk to people you do, without coming across as needy or weird.
/r/seduction12/02/17 06:03 AM
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Well, I think it sounds terrible, but hey, testing is what proves it. Try it and see.
/r/seduction12/02/17 06:00 AM
1

I try to never say "I'm sorry" in texts.
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:58 AM
1

"You love my braces, I can't wait to have you floss them later," That's horrible, but funny as hell.
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:56 AM
1

Sounds like you are stalking her. Stop. The "signals" she is giving you sounds like she wants you to go away.
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:49 AM
1

Don't ask, invite. Open your arms. Body language relaxed, smiling.
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:43 AM
2

Go out and do something interesting every week. That'll will give you something to talk about. If you only go clubbing, you're gonna be a bit boring.
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:41 AM
2

When I started, I made a commitment to go out Fridays, to a specific place. So, when I have Friday free, I didn't have to think about whether I was going out, or where. Ok to skip it for something better, but not for your bed. Willpower is weak in the moment, but if you already have a plan, it's easier.
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:38 AM
1

Are you literally asking "want to out this weekend"? I think that's too vague. It's not leading. C2: Again, asking about the whole weekend. She doesn't know what you will ask, so it's easier to say "no". Find something cool to do, and ask specifically.
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:35 AM
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Libraries can work. Coffee shops are great. Markets are good. Check for events at any of them. Book clubs work. Libraries sponsor them sometimes. Check meetup.com Practice talking to everyone. Friends are probably a good way to meet people in a small town. Church, maybe? Try online. Tinder?
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:31 AM
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She said that I seemed really confident Is not the same as a girl tells you you're being too confident or assertive The first one is a compliment. Accept it.
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:26 AM
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Friends can be tough. As /u/henryscepter said, work the friends as well. Talk to everyone is a good rule. 6 & 7 are where there could be some improvement. Look her in the eyes while talking to him. "You have excellent taste in friends". I might go for the confuse 'em and lose 'em approach. Say "congratulations", and shift your attention back to her. It sounds like it could make sense, but doesn't really. By the time he has a comeback, he's already out of the conversation.
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:23 AM
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Sounds made up. Seriously, if that's what really happened, you don't escalate next time, you take her home then. She couldn't possibly have been more obvious.
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:19 AM
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Reasons would be useful. I'm not planning to travel, but I'm curious why Columbia, for example.
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:32 AM
2

If that works for you, go for it.
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:31 AM
3

I was just translating...
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:30 AM
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Wow. I browsed your history looking for the tinder pics. It's a huge pile of "i can't do it, because I'm not good looking enough." Please stop wasting your time and ours with this. Either get up and do, or crawl into a hole. But stop with the excuses. If you took at windshield to the face, or are a burn victim, then you have a case. (And my sympathy). But your history just reads like a thread of excuses. LET THEM GO. It's not your looks that are holding you back, it's your excuses. This is funda…
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:28 AM
1

You commented on someone's tinder pics. I bet that's what he saw.
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:14 AM
1

It's amazing how much "pickup" looks like "getting your shit together".
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:07 AM
2

Talk to your barber. Get a haircut that minimizes the effect. Then forget about it. I have literally never heard someone say "I'd date him except for the ears". It's not a thing.
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:05 AM
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She sounds like a super aggressive tomboy who doesn't play games. And that's a negative? I mean, either you like it, or you don't. But she sounds like what you see is what you get. "If I don't care about you or feel like you add to my life, I will not go out of my way to support you." Like me, she places a huge emphasis on loyalty Hmm...
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:00 AM
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It means they don't want to talk to you. Don't take it personally, they probably do it to any man they don't know. If you stare at them the whole time you approach, you will almost always get this. Things that I find help. 1) Don't stare at them as they approach 2) Smile while you are approaching. They may not be looking at you, but they are still registering your body language. Be happy.
/r/seduction09/02/17 04:56 AM
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Why? How much taller are you going to be, if we say it matters? You ignore it, because it's unchangeable. Work with what you have.
/r/seduction09/02/17 04:48 AM
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Glossary's on the right. "IOD- Indicator of Disinterest. This is anything that indicates disinterest."
/r/seduction09/02/17 04:22 AM
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Hey, I appreciate your giving back. I'd like to share a bit of feedback (you asked for a review, posting here, since that seems better). If you take the post above, and put in into the front of the book, it will improve it tremendously. The book opens with no context, no "why do I care". Few people will get past the first ten pages.
/r/seduction08/02/17 07:54 PM
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Makes me want to go back in time and slap my 17 year old self for being exactly this oblivious.
/r/seduction08/02/17 07:53 PM
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If you know you'll see her again soon, you can just take it up again when you see her. She probably knows your name. But just include it in your text. "Hey, this is Kaykaz12, it was great running into you yesterday - I'd love to catch up and find out what you've been up to since <HSNAME>. " then you need a concrete plan. Can just add, "I'll be at the usual place Sunday Afternoon". Or better, "there's a band at club X I'll be there on Monday night". Give a specific time, nothing says needy like "…
/r/seduction08/02/17 07:52 PM
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Also, put a blank line between paragraphs!!!
/r/seduction08/02/17 07:42 PM
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Dude, you're golden. She walked you out so you could kiss her. Don't do this: "I should be the one thanking you" Do do this: , "ive never been able to talk to anyone like that before and it was amazing to be able to confide in you like that" She would be my first real gf Stay in the present. Kiss first, worry about long term later. " I said i wanna go to see the stars and its like 100 bucks a night for a cabin and thats it. Then im like "but then finding someone to go with is likeee" she cut me …
/r/seduction08/02/17 07:42 PM
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Nicely done.
/r/seduction08/02/17 07:33 PM
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You're not quitting, you're graduating. Congratulations!
/r/seduction08/02/17 06:21 PM
2

Find group activities to join. Hiking, dancing, running. Any activity that includes women. Make friends.
/r/seduction08/02/17 06:20 PM
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If you can't make eye contact with her, and she's got headphones in, she's sending a pretty strong message of "leave me alone". If you are gorgeous, or a master, maybe you can try, but I'd leave her alone. For general public places, make a comment about something happening around you. The more interesting it is, the less it will seem like a canned "line". Learn to be observant. If she engages, then proceed. If she ignores you, or shuts you down, move on.
/r/seduction08/02/17 06:19 PM
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Now, props to you for wanting to make your intentions clear. I feel like you might be looking for permission to take things to the next level. ("Is it a 'date'? Good, then I can touch her, etc."). I think the reason I don't ask for "dates" is that I think women like gradual transitions. If you say "let's go on a date", she has to decide then and there if she's interested. 0 to 60. If you have already built attraction, then sure. But then, if you've already built attraction, you don't have to say…
/r/seduction08/02/17 06:08 PM
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If it's working for you, keep it up. Change the things that aren't working. If there aren't any, then enjoy the fuck out of life.
/r/seduction08/02/17 05:32 PM
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That's perfect, if your goal is to collect phone numbers. You are literally doing the minimum to get a number, then stopping. If the conversation is going well, don't leave. Build attraction, build a connection. If that's still working, see if they will bounce to somewhere. As /u/SuperPoop says, try set the second meet. Then you'll get immediate feedback about how you are doing, instead of a flake for an unknown reason. If you can't set the second meet, try again with the next girl. Change it up…
/r/seduction08/02/17 05:30 PM
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Do this with everyone. It feels awesome, and leads to great things.
/r/seduction28/01/17 07:51 PM
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Theres a science to this shit apperently. LOL. Golden.
/r/seduction28/01/17 07:50 PM
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"I keep stubbing my toe, do I a) cut off my foot, or b) learn not to do it?" It's your life, if you want it to be good, control yourself. "Falling" makes it sound like is just happens. Take responsibility! I decide to focus too much on one woman So don't. Spend too much time with one girl? Spend more with others. Think too much time about one? Call another, set up plans. Call a bunch, have a party. Choose to take your mind off of her. It's your brain, this is all on you. Fantasizing about how pe…
/r/seduction28/01/17 07:48 PM
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how you get girls who aren't initially attracted to you not how you get girls who have strongly decided they are not interested in you. I have seen guys do amazing recoveries. I have seen guys pick up girls who had NO interest in them to start with, that were way out of their league. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone get past "hand in the face". Maybe where you hang out is a meat market, and the women only talk to guys that they want to sleep with. (Think Tinder) Or they do this because yo…
/r/seduction28/01/17 07:37 PM
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Nice FR. Keep the coming. That kind of attitude is going to get you laid.
/r/seduction28/01/17 07:16 PM
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I bet it's highly region dependent. I needed the translation.
/r/seduction26/01/17 07:05 AM
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If a girl is clearly uncomfortable should I just eject from the set? Yes. I've seen some guys turn an initial bad reaction around... Right, when you've had more practice, you can do that. Right now, you are struggling to not have "neutral" go to "uncomfortable". Find a new one, try again. adjust & evaluate, repeat.
/r/seduction26/01/17 07:00 AM
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If you want to do it again with her, be active. Invite her to something. Netflix and chill, or something outside the house leading to netflix and chill. Don't just be passive and wait for an invite again.
/r/seduction25/01/17 04:56 PM
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Always good to acquire a skill you can demonstrate, in public. If it takes some courage to demonstrate it, so much the better. Congrats, and keep doing it.
/r/seduction25/01/17 07:15 AM
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If you catch her lying about it have you guys ever been able to turn it around? In the few instances that I've caught her and called her on it she didn't change her mind about me, she just basically told me to 'piss off' On what planet is calling a girl a liar a useful pickup technique? called her on it she didn't change her mind about me ಠ_ಠ I don't even know where to start. What did you expect from calling her on it? Does getting called a liar turn you on? Put you in a romantic mood? Make you …
/r/seduction25/01/17 07:14 AM
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Field Report!
/r/seduction25/01/17 06:33 AM
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Then you'll have the energy to do things that will bring you into contact with women, and the discipline to make something of yourself. You don't realize how being unfit and eating badly drags you down, until you fix it.
/r/seduction23/01/17 06:40 AM
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Do more than you read. Best way to have interesting conversations is to have an interesting life, so you have things to talk about. Do at least one thing worth talking about every week.
/r/seduction23/01/17 06:37 AM
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This is more "12 common reasons" than any one person. Fr example, these are probably not the same guy: You treat a woman like a princess, act needy, be agreeable and lack backbone You harbor bitter hatred towards women
/r/seduction23/01/17 06:32 AM
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Bring friends. Approach the group as a group. Makes it easier.
/r/seduction23/01/17 06:28 AM
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If you have realized you are annoying, you're miles ahead of most people in self-awareness. You are also realizing that humor (and many other social aspects) are situational. Think about what works in a given situation, don't just mindlessly repeat something that worked in a different situation. Many people that talk too much are insecure, and afraid of silence. Don't be afraid to take time to think before speaking. The best thing is practice. Maybe some reading (like a book or two, not reading …
/r/seduction23/01/17 06:25 AM
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The gym.
/r/seduction23/01/17 06:14 AM
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Don't forget money.
/r/seduction23/01/17 06:13 AM
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More spam.
/r/seduction23/01/17 06:08 AM
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"Put massive value in your life so that everyone will want to be part of it" Read that a few more times, everyone. That's the basis of success.
/r/seduction21/01/17 05:49 PM
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but I feel like talking to her and clarifying it was a date I just have to come back to this. This says something about how you think. And it's not gonna get you laid. I'm having trouble describing why this is so off. Maybe someone can express it better, but I'll try 1) You are looking for her validation. (she has to know it was a date) 2) You think it's a date because one person says it is. You wanted it to be a date. Sounds like it wasn't. 3) You are so outcome dependent that you want to retro…
/r/seduction21/01/17 05:45 PM
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but I feel like talking to her and clarifying it was a date - is that a good idea? No. Two likely outcomes: 1) she feels bad, 2) she get annoyed. Neither increase your chances with her. Next time, let her pay (if she offers). Guys make this mistake all the time. Paying does not make it a date. Women are incredibly sensitive to "I paid for this and you owe me", and they hate it. I'd keep trying (unless you have better options, of course). I suspect you weren't escalating through the entire evenin…
/r/seduction21/01/17 05:44 PM
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A great example of how these skills enhance your life, totally aside from sex. And you've done a beautiful job of of displaying confidence without neediness. You are setting yourself up for long term success - with these girls or with others.
/r/seduction21/01/17 05:08 PM
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I'd start with the "no friends" part. Work the social skills. Pickup is advanced social skills, and if you don't have the basics, it's gonna be hard. Organized activities are good for this. If you are at a college, go join the clubs that interest you. Join as many as your course load will allow. Go to new ones as time permits. Find off campus activities, especially those aimed at students. (hikes, dancing, book clubs, anything that promotes conversation, which will be almost all of them). Talk t…
/r/seduction21/01/17 05:00 PM
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Don't fifth wheel, find #6, and bring her. Ask first, of course.
/r/seduction20/01/17 06:35 AM
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Play the odds: McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX :-) http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/solocities_gap1.aspx
/r/seduction20/01/17 06:16 AM
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Of course you got downvoted. The people that taking your advice are out having a life. Its the remainder who are downvoting.'
/r/seduction20/01/17 06:10 AM
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What's she gonna say? "I don't wanna be with a virgin." "No problem, in thirty seconds I won't be." :-)
/r/seduction17/01/17 07:45 AM
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Same rules as anything else with women, don't make a big deal about it. If you tell her, be smiling, not nervous. "Hey, I'm kind of new to this." You'll be fine.
/r/seduction17/01/17 07:44 AM
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to shame themselves and prove to others how big of a piece of shit they are No, you are completely misunderstanding them. The whole point of "all of the excuses they have" is to have some external factor be at fault - so it is not their fault. If you fail a lot of times, you can either keep trying, accept the fact that you are a failure, or find something to blame it on so it's not your fault. Approach three is very popular. It's not just in relationships, if you pay attention, you'll find it th…
/r/seduction17/01/17 06:51 AM
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Don't mean to sound like a misogynist Nope, you just sound like a male college student, almost stereotypically so. It's ok, you'll grow out of it, so will they.
/r/seduction17/01/17 06:38 AM
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Pretend she's a boy... ...for the first five minutes.
/r/seduction17/01/17 06:13 AM
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And I always figure that if a girl's crawling into my bed, she's interested. I'm not saying you have to rush to get her back in your bed - just that if you find her there again, escalate. That is, gradually touch more and get closer. No rush, have fun. As long as she's smiling, keep escalating. I think she'll keep smiling. "we should hang out more and see if we're meant for each other" That would be a green light. Green means "go"! :-)
/r/seduction17/01/17 06:11 AM
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"No problem. I'll catch you some other time. " You take it to 'no', when she says maybe. If she's interested, then she'll find a way to get back on our schedule. If not, you just saved some time.
/r/seduction17/01/17 05:59 AM
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I'm planning on making a move soon Tell me that will be the next time she's in your bed. Please. No more "soon". Now.
/r/seduction17/01/17 05:56 AM
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Awesome FR. keep up the good work!
/r/seduction16/01/17 08:05 AM
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Now I know, I know, "OP stop being such a beta and tell her how you feel No. Just fucking no. Show her how you feel. Tell her how you feel and then what? Wait for her to decide if you are good enough? If there's anything more passive than telling her four years ago and waiting for the ball that's in her court, I don't know what it is. /rant Do me, a favor, will you? Before you move to Omaha, take her to dinner, a park, whatever. Hug when you meet here, touch her a few times during the conversati…
/r/seduction16/01/17 08:01 AM
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He asked how people get friend-zoned, not how to get laid. It was good advice for that. :-)
/r/seduction16/01/17 07:20 AM
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Hang around her for months or years. Don't express any opinions, as you don't want to risk offending her. Don't talk about anything sexual or openly romantic. Don't touch her. Then dramatically express your feelings without warning. That should do it.
/r/seduction09/01/17 11:22 PM
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Just ask. Ive done things to try and compensate for this, such as a huge grad proposal, taking her out and buying her dinner/food and a few other smaller things. No. This is trying to buy your way in. It just gets you a ticket to the friend zone. Trying to change who you are is not the way to get a girl that already "always liked" who you are already. She's liked you all this time, in spite of this. Open like you would before, and maybe this time don't blow her off afterwards.
/r/seduction09/01/17 11:18 PM
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Get out of your head and relax. Her friend basically said "she's trying to get laid" before your date. You think her friend didn't talk to the girl first? She told her friend to tell you she wants to get laid. Get out of your head and relax! P.s i'm not trying to sleep with her tonight-- my goal is to plant foundations. Why the hell not? It's pretty clearly what she wants. Act like you both know you want to have sex, you're just having fun before that happens. That should get you into the right …
/r/seduction09/01/17 11:13 PM
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I'm not sure I'd try it, but disqualifying yourself is a pretty standard approach. It basically says "I'm just here to have fun. I don't need to sleep with you". And remember "If it works, it's not stupid."
/r/seduction09/01/17 10:59 PM
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My strategy was waiting until some brave ones displayed interest in me If that ever worked, you are good looking enough that it shouldn't be an issue in pickup. have a wide circle of friends mostly composed of girls Ah. I bet you come off as one of the girls. Goes with the "looking gay". Raised by single mom? (just a guess). Great for making friends, not so great for getting laid. You can ask them to wing for you though. You might try get someone to video you. Could be body language, facial expr…
/r/seduction09/01/17 10:56 PM
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Ask about the class! "what was the homework?", "did you understand question #3?", "What do you think of <class related topic>?" And, of course: "Let's get together and study".
/r/seduction09/01/17 10:31 PM
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Unless she's a lesbian! :-)
/r/seduction07/01/17 02:59 AM
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"How would you like me to kiss you?"
/r/seduction31/12/16 07:15 AM
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How many things that are worth doing can you learn in one day? Do you spend 6 months reading books about basketball, and then start to play? You did something that requires skill and practice, and you just stated practicing. How I've lived my life for 24 years will no longer work if I want to have any hope of being happy. This is the sticking point for so many people. Do the same thing, get the same result. You want a different result, do different things. This does not mean giving up on who you…
/r/seduction31/12/16 06:34 AM
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Dude, lose the excuses - which is what most of your 'background' was. Or head over to one of the relationship advice subs where nothing ever gets solved, but people hug you and tell you it's not your fault. But, please, for god's sake tell me you don't tell girls the stories above - but I suspect you do. The wounded puppy routine is great for getting pats on the head, but terrible for getting laid. (That's how guys get stuck there. The only attention they get is for this crap, so they keep doing…
/r/seduction26/12/16 04:35 AM
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No one will laugh here. You may get "tough love", or hear things you don't want to hear, but no one should laugh. I'd work on the basic social skills first. Asking women out is stressful, even more so, if you don't have much social practice. Picking up women you don't know on Facebook is much harder than talking to them in real life (I think. Haven't done it. Other opinions?). Try to find some social activity you enjoy, and go out and try to enjoy it. Not many clues in your post, but book clubs …
/r/seduction26/12/16 04:10 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k397HRbTtWI&feature=youtu.be&t=134
/r/seduction25/12/16 06:59 PM
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I mean, in person. The people telling you not to text, except for day of, if needed, are correct.
/r/seduction25/12/16 06:54 PM
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I feel like you should ask "why do I love you?", and get her talking about herself, and justifying your interest in her. Of course, I think she's already into you, so whatever you do should work.
/r/seduction25/12/16 06:52 PM
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Check the sidebar.
/r/seduction17/12/16 05:29 PM
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www.parentswithoutpartners.org https://www.meetup.com/topics/single-parents-and-kids/ Just googling, I haven't been to their events.
/r/seduction17/12/16 05:28 PM
1

You might want to post a transcript of a convo. It's hard to comment when we don't know what you said.
/r/seduction17/12/16 05:24 PM
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Congratulations! You are free. Go enjoy it.
/r/seduction16/12/16 05:34 PM
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Talk to her. Guys with female friends get laid more than guys without. She has friends, she represents social proof. And, of course, friends are a good thing to have. Life is not only about getting laid, even if seddit is. Of course you continue talk to her.
/r/seduction16/12/16 05:33 PM
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Yes. It's not required but it helps. Just like dressing well, or anything else that improve your overall package.
/r/seduction16/12/16 05:31 PM
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Yeah, I find women aren't great for advice on what TO DO for seduction, but the are spot on about what they feel is creepy. Female friends usually love this kind of project - as long as they don't get the feeling that they are the one you are trying to get.
/r/seduction16/12/16 05:28 PM
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Treat the girls you like the way you are treating the hookups. That's what is working for you. How can I leverage this opportunity and be happy with only hookups? No. Don't change what you want, change what you are doing to get it. What you want is totally achievable, you need to kill the needy, and it will come. /u/t1mman is on point with his advice on this.
/r/seduction16/12/16 05:15 PM
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There are groups for single parents. Help you find some that will understand the limitations of having a 3 year old. Also, there is no better opener than a three year old. Take him to the park, the mall, etc.
/r/seduction16/12/16 05:11 PM
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Absolutely. Recognize that she was doing a beautiful job of push-pull with you. I think you have already called out the mistakes you made. Hold your frame, no puppy-dogging, escalate from the start. None of this confessing you like her crap. Date other girls when you get there. Drop it casually in conversation, like you would with someone you didn't want to date. I think you have a great chance. Report back on how it goes.
/r/seduction16/12/16 05:08 PM
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Fantastic advice.
/r/seduction16/12/16 04:53 PM
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I'm not giving up on this one, so don't tell me otherwise. Then this answer is for the other readers. If you refuse to learn, you won't improve. What we have here is a really common problem. No problem with women he isn't that into, but he crashes and burns horribly with someone he is into. He can hold frame when it's someone he doesn't feel something important is at stake, but folds like wet Kleenex when there is. How to crash and burn in one step: Turns out she couldn't make it. At this point …
/r/seduction16/12/16 04:50 PM
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Awesome. It feels so much better to try and fail, than to never try! And, if you try and fail, you get better for next time.
/r/seduction16/12/16 04:14 PM
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Good luck! Post a follow up, and let us know how it went.
/r/seduction16/12/16 04:08 PM
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Hold your frame, and act the same. Next time, start from the beginning, build interest, escalate. I think I would try to escalate to at least a kiss, or even make out, before asking next time. Big note for beginners (not OP), if you are polite, and not butt-hurt, when when she says "no", you can try again, without landing in the "restraining order" zone. But she knows you interest now. There will be no surprise at the end when you ask, and she'll be more receptive. You may want to acknowledge pr…
/r/seduction14/12/16 04:14 PM
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I think texting is best for setting up dates. Too easy to get into boring "how was your day" fade outs, if you just chat. Doesn't have to be shows. Find anything you like that's ok with company. Hiking, dancing, theater, busking (I think you said you both were musicians). Netflix and chill. The game plan going forward is decide what you want to do, then do it. Invite her if you think it will make it better. If she's not free, go do something fun without her, or with another lady. No anger, no st…
/r/seduction13/12/16 06:20 AM
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If she's sitting on your bed, she's waiting for you to make a move. That's why she's there! You can still be totally nice, and still get laid. Taking her hand and smiling is a fine start. It's not bad to show what you want. She wants you to communicate. Show is better than tell! Go read up on kino escalation. You go gradually, so she has plenty of time to let you know if that's not where she wants to go. It's totally fine to express what you want to women. Just don't be jerk if she says no.
/r/seduction12/12/16 06:41 AM
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Fantastic. I hope you have a great time with her.
/r/seduction12/12/16 06:32 AM
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Yes yes yes! For the advice, I mean. I'd skip red pill.
/r/seduction11/12/16 06:55 PM
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Younger, mostly. The younger ones are more likely to be single. Beautiful, sane 30+ women are likely to be off the market. If you want to date attractive women your age, I'd hit the places where they go: pilates, yoga, etc. Don't hit the bars for that. If she's been going to bars for twenty years...
/r/seduction11/12/16 06:42 PM
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Well, hang in there with it. Toastmasters is great for easing people into it. I highly recommend it, even if you don't care about public speaking. It will help with general conversation and confidence, too.
/r/seduction11/12/16 06:39 PM
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Oh, god. I did that for years. I had no idea how to close. I could open, connect, get number, then I would chat aimlessly until they lost interest. I got so many numbers that I didn't close, because I had no clue. I knew I was doing something wrong, but had no idea what. I wasn't celibate, but my close rate for numbers gotten was terrible. This was pre-reddit and before "The Game", so I was on my own. Gradually got better, then finally met some people who had a clue. Not wingmen, just people I c…
/r/seduction11/12/16 06:29 PM
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Women are skittish in this day and age, they are frequently nervous about strangers looking at them. Two things I've found on this: Be smiling before you look at them. They can tell. Look near them, not at them. Then when they look at you, you can meet their eyes and smile more.
/r/seduction11/12/16 06:13 PM
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I often feel I must just not be physically attractive enough which I can't do a great deal about. Nope. You are getting past that filter. Girls don't grind on guys they don't find attractive.
/r/seduction11/12/16 06:02 PM
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Told my brother I was gonna approach her but he tried to talk me out of it. Soon after my bro and his friends wanted to leave. Seriously? You don't have a wingman, you have a cockblock. Never bring this guy out with you again when you are looking to succeed. Your first set sounds like a slam-dunk. You were doing fantastically. Isolate and close. Seriously, I think you need to stop overthinking, and work on closing. (and never go clubbing with your brother). You are doing great up to that point.
/r/seduction11/12/16 06:00 PM
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You need to work on the abundance mentality. There are plenty of women out there to fuck - if one goes away, who cares? If you get angry about it, you lose. What do you lose? Chance to sleep with her again. Chance for her to introduce you to her friends Chance to figure out why she bailed, so you can do better with other girls Odds are, she one of the other people she was dating got picked. Happens to everyone who dates a lot. No reflection on you. Better reaction, exit with a compliment: "No? T…
/r/seduction11/12/16 05:52 PM
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I was embarrassingly bad at it, for way too long. There weren't any resources that I was aware of. I just had to find my own way. I'll see if I can think of any good stories. They'd mostly be what not to do. What to do: Practice, practice, practice. Read a bit, practice a lot. Don't take anything as gospel. If it sounds reasonable, try it for yourself. Start now. I'm a big fan of small improvements. I don't think going from zero to hero in one step is realistic. If you haven't been doing this, d…
/r/seduction11/12/16 05:38 PM
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when I ask what she is up to on weekends There we have the problem. You are being a needy follower. Girls don't date needy followers. This is how you friend zone yourself. Needy: Girls hate this type of question, as it's designed to find a space in her schedule where she doesn't have something, so she doesn't have a handy excuse to say no. Follower: You are starting with her schedule, not yours. What you should be doing: Find things YOU want to do, preferably in your shared areas of interest, an…
/r/seduction11/12/16 05:21 PM
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I like /u/ErusDraco's response, I'd try that first. An alternate would be "Do you know when women reach their sexual peak? Around <her age>. Do you know when men do? <smile>"
/r/seduction11/12/16 05:12 PM
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You can't fix someone else. Note that people like this are their own worst enemy for a reason. The two most common are: It draws attention and support from well meaning friends. This is what you are doing. This actually encourages self-defeating behavior, because it brings attention. (Girls do this a lot, too. Don't date girls that do this!) It's an excuse for failure. If girls don't date fat guys, and he's fat, then it's not his fault - it's not that he is a hopeless loser, he's just fat. Peopl…
/r/seduction11/12/16 05:02 PM
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I started later than that. Not doing much now, as am in a relationship - which was my end goal. You'll be fine. "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now." – Chinese Proverb
/r/seduction11/12/16 04:55 PM
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As /u/chillfancy says, escalate kino: touch him more. Gradually up it. At some point, you will notice him moving closer, or moving away. There's your answer. Also when he touches, encourage him to escalate: if he puts an arm around you, lean in. If he hugs you, before letting go all the way, make eye contact and smile. Think about him kissing you, that should put the right kind of smile on your face! (if he holds eye contact, slowly tilt your head just a bit. If he does the same ... :) Dress a b…
/r/seduction11/12/16 04:51 PM
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You are doing the right things, keep it up. The only think I might add is meditation. It sounds like you need some practice calming the internal noise. Fake it until you make it. No one cares if you are good enough. They care if you act good enough. So, don't give a fuck if you are "good enough", act like you are good enough. Then you'll get the practice you need to be who you want to be.
/r/seduction11/12/16 04:06 PM
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So many excuses! Learn to dump those, or no amount of advice will help. There will always be a reason you couldn't. Don't allow yourself to fall into that trap. we locked eyes quite a bit Go over and talk to her She often smiled at me and I smiled back Go over and talk to her! I also happened to be sitting at the table right next to hers. Go over and fucking talk to her! Seriously, the only thing you need to add to "Fucking talk to her" is "talk to her friend, too". And here's where we find out …
/r/seduction11/12/16 03:55 PM
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Thanks! Good report.
/r/seduction25/11/16 01:04 AM
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First, this isn't tumblr, you don't have to apologize for wanting a girlfriend. Having said that, even though the end goal is dating, I'd stop focusing on women and start just talking to everyone. From "weak social skills" to pickup is a big jump. Just take the first step, fix the weak social skills. Talk to everyone you meet. Be as interesting as you can manage to everyone you meet. Find ways to talk to many people (old, young, ugly, pretty, men, women). You'll get a lot more practice if you ta…
/r/seduction25/11/16 12:57 AM
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I had a huge mental barrier preventing me from doing it well There we have the problem! No, not the barrier. The fact that you are blaming your lack of success on some abstract "barrier" instead of on lack of practice and training. If it's a "barrier", then it's not your fault, right? Not under your control. Might as well quit. Bullshit. This is a mindset is probably THE problem that is limiting you. Try the book "Mindset" for some insight. Take some responsibility. It's scary, but it's worth it…
/r/seduction25/11/16 12:48 AM
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Incoherent drivel.
/r/seduction05/08/16 12:59 AM
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easy: Don't stay in your hotel room in the evenings. hard: Do something you can't do at home, on every trip.
/r/seduction22/04/16 03:04 AM
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Also, learn to format. Leave a blank line between paragraphs. It won't get you laid, but it will annoy everyone less.
/r/seduction10/04/16 08:41 PM
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Do i need to just take opportunities like this Life Rule #1 - Never stick your dick in crazy. Now, excuse me while I get a baseball bat, and hop into my time machine, and go explain that to my 18 year old virgin self. Seriously, just never.
/r/seduction10/04/16 08:39 PM
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now I'm to become a pimp from zero I'm not a fan of "zero to hero" - get the fundamentals down, and then the rest isn't such a leap. As /u/dutchbookmkrr says, work on yourself, it'll make the rest so much easier. And stop comparing yourself to others, that rarely leads to anything good. Sounds like getting out of school will be good. (better than "depths of hell"). Just tell yourself it's a complete fresh start, and go for it. 25 is a great age to be. Celebrate it.
/r/seduction10/04/16 08:33 PM
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A tremendous part of seduction is just good social skills. Obviously, good social skills help with everything.
/r/seduction10/04/16 08:10 PM
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That's really well said. It's frustrating to try to have a conversation with him because he truly believes he understands how I feel/think better than I do I've tried to help guys like this, and I've never been able to get past their certainty that they know everything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
/r/seduction10/04/16 08:05 PM
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You get higher odds with closing in the first bar, if she leaves, you may never see her again. If she's showing that much interest, I'd try to close before separating, if this happens again. "I've got a better place to go" and lead her off home...
/r/seduction10/04/16 10:07 AM
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Friends are good ways to meet new people, provide social proof, give you feedback. They definitely make it easier. It's also easier to make friends than pickup girls, so I recommend it as a starting point, if you aren't heavy on the social skills already. Or do both. I don't recommend ignoring the friends part and solely doing pickup. Friends are good things to have.
/r/seduction10/04/16 10:03 AM
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Seriously, hit the gym. It can be very calming - good for quieting obsessive thoughts, and getting you out of that needy mindset.
/r/seduction10/04/16 09:58 AM
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The beginning of everything is like that, it's all new, you have no idea where you can go. Then after awhile it grows familiar, and even easy, and the same thrill isn't there. (A lot of people go through this in relationships) There are many options: You can enjoy the comfort zone You push for new limits that test your skills once again. Pickup a 10, or twins, or in a girl in another country. Pickup a new hobby. Work with a team, and learn from others. Teach others Combine it with a new hobby (p…
/r/seduction10/04/16 09:48 AM
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Edit: Thanks for posting. A useful summary. The last bullet kind of contradicts the one before, though... Women are generally more psychologically aroused (whereas men are physically)... Ultimately, you have to acknowledge that women are no different from men...
/r/seduction10/04/16 09:37 AM
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Attractive women are people. I never implied anything else. I'm simply stating that, if you pretended you don't notice their attractiveness, they won't ever notice yours.
/r/seduction10/04/16 09:33 AM
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Right... You're new here, aren't you? The guy may live in a small town, where that works, or he may be very good looking, but it sounds like one of those articles written by someone who sits at home alone writing pickup advice for naive young men. You'll learn to spot them. This is pickup 101 RULE 1: LOOKS DON't MATTER LOL, no. Looks do matter. Anyone who's done any pickup will tell you that. They simply aren't the only factor. Advice given that works fine for someone who's highly attractive, ca…
/r/seduction07/04/16 07:58 AM
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Damn. He said it better: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/4dm57m/to_anyone_who_messed_things_up_with_a_girl_theyre/
/r/seduction07/04/16 07:46 AM
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If you treat her like an friend, and wait for her to notice you are a great guy, and confess her love for you, you ain't never getting laid. This is the true friendzone. If you continue to treat her as an attractive woman, without putting her on a pedestal, you can do just fine, now or next year.
/r/seduction07/04/16 07:45 AM
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Can't tell. Could miss you, could be drunk texting, may have just gotten dumped. Doesn't matter, problem is not her, it's you. Stop being, in your words: "... an insecure, needy, jealous piece of shit.". I don't want to get my hopes up Don't. Be outcome independent. You are letting your fear rule you. You are so afraid of getting hurt, you are not going to even try? Stop caring so much. You'll win some, you'll lose some, if you play the game. Or you can stay at home, and play video games alone. …
/r/seduction07/04/16 07:36 AM
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Just checking up. How's it going?
/r/seduction07/04/16 07:13 AM
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Why would you post this without testing it? If you look at women as they come into view, they'll look at the floor, the walls, anything. But not you. Unless you are very attractive. I've tried. (I'm not particularly attractive). Best I've found: 1) Be smiling before the see you 2) Look near them 3) Meet their eyes when they look to see if you are looking. Or be very attractive.
/r/seduction07/04/16 07:11 AM
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