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It’s enjoyable because good sex with an attractive partner is enjoyable in itself. As a man, there are few greater pleasures in life than fucking your partners brains out while she’s vocally and enthusiastically moaning and fucking back Needless to say, that’s a greatly enjoyable feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:11 PM
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Yup but atleast he gets to enjoy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:48 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:30 PM
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Yup, but TRP atleast helps him get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:18 PM
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That’s where I disagree and think you’re totally wrong. The patriarchy isn’t the root cause. Science, evolutionary biology and natural selection is the root cause. You’ll have as much luck asking men and women to change their behavior in dating as teaching a fish not to swim. That’s why the redpill is so powerful and so empowering to men. It explains their everyday reality. It helps them navigate that messy reality, and doesn’t feed them some feel good egalitarian bullshit about how the world ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:43 AM
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They are being gaslit by people denying the reality that, on average, men and women are fundamentally different in their behavior towards dating and sex. As I said in another post, there’s a reason why being assertive and dominant helps men in sex and relationships. There’s a reason why even the most ardent feminists (again, in a statistically large sample size) enjoy being submissive in bed. There’s a reason why women have such a strong preference to date tall men. That’s what the redpill means…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:31 AM
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Nah, it’s great that women have equal rights an opportunities as men. The context is pretty much in dating and relationships. No matter how progressive the society, in a large enough population size,, women are not going to be as proactive in asking men out for dates. They still expect men to take the lead. The redpill points out that this reality is because of fundamental biological differences in behavior between men and women, because of evolutionary forces. There’s a reason why things like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:27 AM
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The end game is being happy and fulfilled. More specifically, it’s having a good job, financial independence, a close network of trusted friends and fulfilling sex and relationships with a partner on your terms. The red pill helps men respect themselves, achieve fulfillment and avoid being taken advantage of. It does this by helping men understand the fundamental biological differences in behavior between men and women (especially related to dating, sex and relationships) that arises because of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:18 AM
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Not really. Political opinions, personality, etc are all mutable and can change. The importance of good sex with a hot girl/guy cannot be under estimated. Good sex is the fuel that keeps a relationship alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:09 PM
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Fair enough. Yeah I think women like that are the equivalents of male simps
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:09 PM
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But if he’s honest from the start about only wanting sex and not a relationship, why does she still continue to have sex with him and not walk away? Why not stop seeing him have sex with another man who actually wants a relationship? Still struggling to see why it’s the guys fault if he’s honest from the start and practices safe sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:01 PM
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Hm, I kinda see your concern. But when men have safe sex casually (with a condom), the risk of pregnancy or STD is vanishingly low. So if he was honest from the start, and practices safe sex, surely she’s equally responsible if she continues to hook up full well knowing his intentions? Struggling to see why the guy is the villain here. He’s just living his life and is chill. No drama, no emotions, just good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:55 PM
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As a guy I expect to have sex within 4 dates. If not, then onto the next gal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:44 PM
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Where to start. I just hate this guy. It should be obvious why. Next. Why?? I’m curious now. Especially if he was honest from the start?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:40 PM
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It’s not hard as you grow older. Be honest, have lots of good sex, be kind, be healthy. Everything else is just a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:38 PM
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Depends on how hot you (and she) are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:52 PM
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But in the end it’s still your behavior that matters most It matters second most. Looks (especially height) still matters the most. Women are absolutely brutal to short men (< 5’6”). Evolutionary biology gives no fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 11:09 AM
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Haha I’m not short :) I have friends who are, and it breaks my heart to see them put so much effort into dating and beat themselves up over their personality, and not realize the elephant in the room
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:47 PM
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Don’t forget exercise and lifting weights! It’s amazing what it can do to people’s social skills 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:33 PM
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One of my favorite Vonnegut quotes is from Cat’s cradle. “Midget, midget, midget, how he struts and winks, For he knows a man's as big as what he hopes and thinks!” Perfect microcosm of the human condition in general. Captures the absurdity of trying to ignore reality and fooling yourself for moral grandstanding. Could not be more relevant to the plight of short men in dating. There’s another great related quote about “The heartbreaking necessity of lying about reality and the heartbreaking impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:28 PM
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Healthy dose of TRP and practice. Just to be abundantly clear, I am asking about tangible, actionable steps that you deliberately took for the explicit purpose of improving your social skills. Not vague, feel-good nonsense like "I learned to love myself.", etc. Specifically, going to the gym and lifting weights, not being friends with women I’m attracted to but asking them out right away, agree and amplify when dealing with shit tests, being more touchy feely, bar dates with alcohol instead of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:22 PM
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Great answer, thanks for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:33 PM
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Yeah. So fuck bitches get money. You know what I’m talking about right? Haha no, that’s dehumanizing language that treats women as objects 😉 Instead, my point is don’t be a simp if you’re a man, and focus inwards on spending energy that formerly was used in obsessively and actively chasing women, into now making money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:19 PM
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Travel a lot, experience different cultures and places, meet new people, explore new hobbies and new experiences, buy quality things, fancy restaurants and cars, buy a house and live somewhere nice, be stress free, socialize with other high income people, pick up expensive hobbies like skiing etc I.e. life becomes a lot easier with money
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:10 PM
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Nah, I mean don’t go out of your way chasing and obsessing about women, but instead focus that energy into making money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:06 PM
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I wish there was an easy answer :( As a first attempt I’ll say STEM degree, tech jobs, med school, MBA, upskilling, learning emotional intelligence, learning how to sell yourself, second job to increase income, and plain dumb luck. Through a combination of the above, my annual income went from 30k a year as a grad student, 50k a year as a research associate to 250k+ a year in big tech over 7 years Then, max your Roth IRA, HSA and 401k. Invest extra in a taxable brokerage account and invest in ET…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:17 PM
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But the most futile and pointless thing you can do is let your own life pass you by waiting and wishing for other people to change. Absolute truth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:33 PM
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There’s a really simple solution to this dilemma. Ignore women and get rich. Money solves so many problems in life, and there are so many things you can do and places you can explore with money. Ironically, more often than not it also solves any women problem too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:09 PM
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Look better=attract better irrespective of how you feel. Women, like men, are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:34 PM
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What about hot and not hot poor and rich women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:24 PM
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As always, the true conflict is one of economic class and not race/gender/identity pol nonsense. Right now, life is great if you have an advanced STEM degree, six figure job that allows remote work, etc. some of this group is woke (esp east coast liberals, but they’re still NIMBYs), but can also lean libertarian/conservative. Life sucks if you’re a broke college student or gender studies/liberal arts major looking for a minimum wage/Amazon warehouse/entry level job. This group tends to be vocall…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:45 PM
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How about food shortages? No such thing in the US Inflation? & Riots? Current high inflation is a transitional response. Even if not, I make enough money for it not to matter. What riots that affects the financially well off? Racist In-laws during protests they don't agree with? Thankfully not the case. My GF is white, I’m not, and no issues. Environmental devastation? Getting warmer this sucks but it’s a global problem, not US specific. Even if we reach 0 emissions, we’re fucked thanks to India…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:38 AM
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Agree 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 12:00 AM
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Not on Facebook. The issues don’t really matter outside Twitter, Facebook, etc especially if you’re financially well off in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:58 PM
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Leaving Twitter and Facebook was the greatest thing I’ve done for my mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:45 PM
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Haha sure, fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:54 PM
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Oh it will. We’re both in our 30s and not young kids anymore. I find it’s only the young “woke” fresh out of college kids who make everything about politics. At the end of the day, enjoying time together, being outdoors on hikes, being financially independent, good sex, etc are all much more important than sharing political beliefs. Politics doesn’t really affect you if you aren’t poor and not woke
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:44 PM
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Just curious, how old is your FWB? Is he younger or older if you don’t mind sharing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:40 PM
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Not as I get older. I’m a very moderate centrist (lean left on social issues, right on economic issues). My girlfriend is very liberal/progressive. We do get into disagreements but by and large have decided to avoid talking about politics and to focus on important things like being happy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:00 PM
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A lot of things matter in choosing a mate Sure, but in a large enough population size, there are fairly universal patterns in the traits we find attractive in the opposite gender. This is because, like all other living things, our brains have been shaped by hundreds of thousands of years of natural selection and evolution. Therefore, human behavior such as choosing a mate also isn’t random, but has been shaped by evolution. For this reason, you’ll see very similar patterns of behavior across cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:58 PM
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Are the ideas correct or not? At the end of the day, human behavior and attraction, like everything else, is the result of hundreds of thousands of years of evolution and natural selection. As a result, in a large enough population groups, both both men and women exhibit very predictable patterns of what behavior they find attractive in the opposite gender. At its core, TRP just points out these trends. E.g it doesn’t just tell you that women have an overwhelming preference for height in men, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:56 PM
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What content would you pay for? Number one priority is paying for a college degree in STEM, remote degrees and online certifications (e.g AI/ML certification), medical school etc.. I.e. any content that lets you earn more money down the line. Pay money for quality entertainment content too e.g. movie tickets, sporting events, media like HBO, Netflix, YouTube TV, etc I think for men, paying for content for gratification can be summarized down to the gold rule: “Don’t be a simp”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:49 PM
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It’s also extremely racist in how it casually sterotypes men (but notably not women) of minority races. Of course nobody cares about men anyway so it doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 03:46 AM
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It’s interesting how in a comment about male insecurity and vulnerability, you still make it about the woman and focus only on “large labia” It just reinforces their point, truly nobody gives a flying fuck about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 03:44 AM
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Because Reddit is full of young woke kids who are too naive to understand how the world really works. It’s the conviction of youth mixed with inexperience. Kids ignore them, they put them in old age/elderly homes and Skype or zoom every now and then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:19 PM
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Plenty of single people at 80 whose spouses have passed away. Just do what they do, hang out playing cards, book clubs, elderly community events Everybody dies alone anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:29 PM
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height doesn't matter", only for me to find out their husband is like 6'2 lol tehehe
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:53 PM
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Yo, I dig your empathy, positivity and sagely advice. You are a credit to this subreddit!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:07 AM
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The answer is: 1) Looks (facial features, height, athleticism) 2) Money (> 100k per year adjusted for cost of living) 3) Status (being high value, someone respected by other men and wanted by other women)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:21 PM
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Perhaps. I’m not sure about that. I think many of those men are being either intentionally dishonest to appear morally smug and superior (aka “woke”), or they are genuinely fooling themselves that they’re somehow suppressing their innate biological instincts. I think the number of truly low libido men (either through health conditions or ourliers) are much lower than most people think. There’s a reason male thirst is a thing, and that reason is biology and genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 02:37 PM
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If you’re a heterosexual single man, so do you. The only difference is that you are lying to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 01:31 PM
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Under normal circumstances, everything is about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 01:30 PM
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Average women can also be attractive… I’m talking about skinny women in the 4 to 7 range, not the 7 to 10 range.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:41 PM
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Average guys can fuck average women who are attractive to each other. It’s harder for men sure, but not impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 02:17 PM
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Honestly, jokes aside, I think feminism is vitally important. Historically, women have not enjoyed equal rights as men. Even now, and especially in many non-western countries, they are not afforded the same opportunities and freedom to pursue happiness as men. Women need to have the same opportunities and freedoms as men, both in their professional and personal lives, and I totally support that from of feminism (that’s about true egalitarianism). I’m not a fan of the woke/virtue-signaling femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 12:22 PM
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I don't know what r-worded means Google “r-slur” to find out what it means. It’s a word that woke people have cancelled because they stupidly think it’s offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 07:25 PM
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Too overtly transactional. Seduction is part of the thrill and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:26 PM
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1) Fair enough. I accept the criticism and appreciate you being civil. The only thing I’ll say is that too often women are flippant about the fundamental need for sex for men. They simply don’t understand as they’re biologically different. 2) I’m glad your personal life is working fine enough, but please do take care not to judge others based on your personal preferences, or impose your sense of morality on others. There are a huge number of happy people in non-monogamous relationships and who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 03:12 PM
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Sex is great. If consenting adults want to have sex for money, who are you to judge them? Please stop slut shaming and learn to be sex positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:50 PM
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But is it wisdom though? I’d say the 30 year old woman has much more wisdom as she is much more experienced in dating The inexperienced man is likely just a simp-in-waiting
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:46 PM
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It’s worth it because I like sex. I’m willing to play an unfair and rigged game because fucking an attractive woman is one of the greatest joys life can offer. C’est la vie. At the end of the day, we are all just slaves to our biology and genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:44 PM
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Don’t take it too hard on yourself. Reality and evidence is often cold, hard and brutal and shatters egalitarian fantasy and worldviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:42 PM
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You mean lies, damned lies and feminists 😉 I jest, I just , I’m a feminist myself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:39 PM
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Any link to those studies? I’d wager that Asian men are the least wanted race on tinder, not North African men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 04:54 PM
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It’s amazing and sobering realizing just how many progressive feminist women are attracted like moths to flames and hookup with Muslim men, especially in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:14 PM
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Nah, it’s that of someone with first hand experience who escaped those third world religious hellholes. The problem with “woke” western progressives/liberals is that they aren’t harsh enough of religion, especially those prevalent in third world countries like Hinduism and Islam.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:09 PM
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The point is, the world has progressed since then (especially since the advent of the scientific method). Islamic culture alas has not and still largely lives in the Stone Age with respect to its judicial system (e.g. Sharia) and fundamental rights (blasphemy laws, womens rights, etc.) Islam needs a great reformer desperately.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 06:15 PM
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This is complete bullshit and typical Muslim apologetics. Sure, Islamic culture contributed to proto-science, but that’s still in the stone ages. Islam, like all religions, is completely incompatible with the minder scientific method. I.e. everything from Darwin’s theory of evolution to modern physics. In fact, the most famous Nobel prize winning Muslim scientist was completely shunned by Islamic fundamentalists. Islam also has basically non-existent women’s rights. It doesn’t tolerate dissent, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:16 PM
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Thanks! Yeah that’s where TRP advice helps a lot. Learning to deal with shit tests, agree and amplify, lifting, being forward. All that helps men get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 03:41 PM
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But nobody should be sticking their dick in crazy, not just because it hurts them but it also hurts other people. The problem is people seek out sex based status before they ever place any dutiful care towards appreciating and fostering healthy social environments. It takes two to tango. Sex is an innate biological phenomenon. Our biological drive doesn’t give a fuck about “appreciating and fostering healthy environments”. People should sleep with whomever they want, as long as the sex is good. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 03:06 PM
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The problem is that Islam, like most religions, is incompatible with human rights and especially women’s rights. It’s a Stone Age belief system that has no place in the post-scientific world. The urban middle class western Redditor will never realize this red pill truth for fear of being politically incorrect and offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 02:50 PM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:38 PM
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It’s a great book, and well packaged for the masses with PC messaging and without being too offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 03:25 PM
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Like everything else, the free market is the best way to run things. I thinking the best solution is to accept reality, and work within those constraints to maximize one’s happiness, enjoyment and wellbeing. After all, in the end we’ll all be dead and not everyone will get to experience everything they want
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 10:39 PM
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Totally agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:36 AM
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“Women want to have sex without the context of love” absolutely goes against your narrative. Just because you don’t enjoy casual sex doesn’t mean the majority of women don’t. Casual sex is amazing, for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:42 PM
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It has everything to do with what we’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:01 PM
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Love without sex is just friendship. Good sex is the fundamental bedrock of every successful relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 10:56 PM
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Can you gals really not understand that men want women to physically lust and desire them? We want them to (vocally and enthusiastically) enjoy and look forward to fucking like animals. “She puts up with me for safety and commitment” is not the outcome men seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 10:54 PM
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Tell them what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:34 AM
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Yup agreed. I’m not friends with attractive women because I’d rather sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:32 AM
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No sex: Fat women + below average facial attractiveness Only sex : atleast moderately attractive Commit: atleast moderately attractive + kind Marry: atleast moderately attractive + kind + financially stable
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:18 PM
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“Some”? Lol I’m pretty sure that’s nearly all guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:52 PM
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If being nice to a woman and wanting to get intimate with her is a form of disrespect, what women do should be seen as downright heinous. No I disagree, what women do makes perfect logical sense when you think about it. Of course they’ll take emotional validation offered for free by the ugly but nice guy, and sleep with the hot guy. From their point of view, it’s a win-win. It’s not like they’re asking for emotional validation either, they’re being offered that freely. The fault here lies entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:22 PM
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Treating someone as a human being with respect is vastly different from being their friend. Men don’t owe women friendship, just like how women don’t owe men sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:15 PM
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Often however, you see dudes who, upon seeing that the potential for a relationship or sex goes out the window (friendzone), they stop being so friendly compared to before. And absolutely nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:13 PM
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However, my point is societies like the African dwarf pygmies are the outliers with very stringent and unique environments. In contrast, for the general female homo sapien population across all societies, they have a strong innate biological preference for taller men. Do you disagree with that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:54 PM
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I’m not saying tall men are genetically superior at all. In fact, there’s a host of health problems with being tall. I believe shorter men have longer life expectancy. In certain environments, shorter humans have clearly been selected for. Right, but only because of environmental factors like nutrient scarcity, which is the outlier not the norm. All I’m saying is that across modern Homo sapiens, women have an innate biologically driven preference to have sex and mate with taller men (in a large …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:43 PM
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Only because there were other pressing factors like lack of nutrition. If a African pygmies were to compete against modern humans, female African Pygmy women on tinder would not give the short me a chance. At the end of the day, it’s all just biology and genetics. The reason women overwhelmingly prefer tall and big men is rooted in evolutionary biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:26 PM
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Nope. It’s not if women voluntarily offer it at a price in a safe and ethical manner as a business transaction. I’d say it’s more misogynistic and dehumanizing to take away independence and agency from women, and presume you can control what they do. Please don’t be misogynistic. Be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:39 PM
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Not true. For example, they can support technology (the infamous sexbots), or vote to legalize/normalize ethical and safe escort/prostitution services, etc. The first step to fixing his issue is acknowledging privilege and inequity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:53 AM
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It shows empathy and awareness and starts a conversation. Women acknowledging their massive privilege in this issue is the first step in addressing equity in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:29 AM
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Personally I have too much respect for myself to make an effort to spend time with someone who doesn’t value me as a whole person. Completely agree, but that’s also EXACTLY the reason why I’m not friends with women I find attractive. If they also find me attractive, then we date. Otherwise, I have too much respect for myself to make an effort to spend time with someone who doesn’t value me as a whole person. Yup agree totally
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:31 PM
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It wouldn’t work because it’s against fundamental biological human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:54 AM
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Wow you eerily sound like a Trump supporter based on your ideology and lack of empathy towards the other gender. It’s shocking how similar the outlook is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:49 AM
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Disrespect?! That’s rather entitled don’t you think? Why is simple friendship/companionship not good enough in itself and why are those women somehow automatically entitled to male sexual attraction? Flipping the question, if women told men that they’re only friends for emotional validation and favors, do you think the guys will feel valued? .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:35 AM
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Something seems off here. It makes perfect sense with two simple rules: Be attractive Don’t be unattractive In that case, “friends” means a cute guy she’s attracted to but doesn’t have a label for because it’s very early. Otherwise, “friends” is a guy who hangs around for group activities or maybe helping her move, but someone she’ll never ever fuck because he’s ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:39 AM
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On the contrary, me and guys I know only befriend ugly/fat women (outside work colleagues). If she’s attractive, then I wanna smash and not be her friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:00 AM
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That’s exactly the moment when a man sheds his naive idealism and embraces reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:57 AM
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and she’s thinks he’s unattractive funnily enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:06 PM
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Right, but what’s the trigger? I’d argue there’s no incentive for young women to change when there’s always another really hot bad boy giving attention/validation/great sex they think they can tame/fix. It’s only when that resource starts to run out (looks fading), there’s an incentive to have a reflection and self realization. This is why women settle for nice guys when their looks begin to fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:18 PM
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Anyone can have character development. I’m just saying what you’re claiming as “character development”, in the very narrow context of women settling for “nice guys” after dating “bad boys”, is in fact strongly correlated with women losing physical attractiveness. Men aren’t faultless either. There’s a reason why they string those women along for sex without committing. It’s all about sexual market value. That’s a key factor that underlies “character development” in men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:02 PM
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First of all in the Bay Area, total compensation (salary + stocks + bonus) runs very high. 250k a year is solidly average in total income there. 40% of all households in Silicon Valley make 200k+ a year Next, I don’t want to settle with a gold-digger. So I don’t advertise my income or job either. When I mentioned my job on dating apps, I got a ton of dates it’s true. But always with women pushing for a relationship ASAP. I met my current GF on okcupid without me mentioning my job/income. She wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:25 PM
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Agreed! And that’s awesome man, that’s living the American dream 🙂 upward social mobility through talent and hard work, congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:05 PM
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I am baffled why she does see us as equals. It’s because there are plenty of guys with career, money and business that it’s not as special as you think. For example, I have an income of 250k a year (big tech), am 5’11”, early 30s but am average looking as well. I don’t run marathons but comfortably run 10ks and bench my own body weight. The reality is that guys like us are still in excess supply. We are the “safe” guys that women settle with once they’ve had their fun in their twenties. Do you r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:43 PM
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Here you go: https://www.alcohol.org/guides/drinking-on-dates/ It’s in the “shots to sheets” section.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:02 PM
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Men do the same thing too, if we are being honest. The difference in how nicely we treat attractive women and fat women in everyday interactions is night and day. Height in men is similar to weight in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:49 PM
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Ever wondered why this fact exists? Why is the bar higher for men? Why are the expectations higher and the pressure higher? In the context of dating, sex and relationships it’s because of evolutionary biology and natural selection. In STEM, I agree with you totally. There are large systemic gender and racial barriers that prevent women and minorities from thriving in traditionally white-male dominated fields. In dating however, there are fundamental biologically driven differences in the outward…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:05 AM
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Im a 5'3 asian guy Unfortunately that’s probably why. Don’t be too harsh on yourself friend, you’re an amazing person. Your lack of dating success isn’t your fault, it’s just the consequence of shitty luck and circumstances. Life isn’t fair and alas not everyone ends up happy. I’d love to grab a beer with you and listen to your life story and experiences! You seem an interesting man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:57 AM
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You have more time, more money and more opportunities for new experiences, travel and meeting new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:55 AM
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Fuck these women. That’s the whole point… everything else is easy but fucking women needs a lot of effort unless you’re tall, rich and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:54 AM
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Why do women value themselves so much? You need to understand, the sexual marketplace values them so much because they are hot. Hot women are in demand due to scarcity, whereas average men are in plenty of supply. It makes perfect sense why hot women value themselves so much, because that indeed reflects their true market value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:51 AM
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Nah, statistically higher probability of getting laid and having fun when alcohol is involved in a date. I’m not saying get black out drunk, just buzzed enough to make it easier to have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:43 AM
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It’s a made up TV show…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:42 AM
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Like I said, this realization usually only happens as the woman grows older, her looks begin to fade, she’s getting less free attention and validation with the “bad boys” and there’s more competition from even younger and prettier women. I’m saying there’s a direct correlation with women maturing and and understanding the emotional toll of toxic relationships, and their sexual market value falling with age. This is why women date these “bad boys” in their prime when they’re young and hot, and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:42 AM
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That realization usually only happens when their looks begin to fade and they can’t get attention from the “bad boys” easily and so need to settle with a less toxic but also less physically attractive guy. That’s my point. If women stayed young and attractive forever, then they’re not going to have that realization you just describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:39 AM
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Social lubricant
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 06:36 PM
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Okay I agree with you 👍🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 06:36 PM
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Depends on many factors. Biggest one is having/wanting kids though… many (but not all) 30+ women either have kids or want one ASAP which changes the whole dynamic. 30+ women are great to date if they are chill, supportive and enthusiastic in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:59 PM
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Great post 👍🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:24 PM
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My wife likes taller guys. It's true. But she loves arrogance. If I were shorter than her the best thing for me to do would probably be to play on it. "I don't care if you prefer tall guys. I'm still going to make you cum three times in a row" would work with her. If we’re going for brutal honesty, in all likelihood, she wouldn’t be your wife if you were shorter. Plus, women like arrogant guys only if the guy is also attractive. That line would work great if you’re tall and she thinks you’re att…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:22 PM
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Sex and dating is way more pleasurable when you’re not fat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:18 PM
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Haha a man gotta have his priorities right 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:17 PM
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Sure, agree with you. If women are fine with casual sex while dating, great by me. It’s just that no man wants to be a simp. That was my original point, advising the guy not be a sexless simp while dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:13 PM
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Don't be mad when women are sleeping with several different guys besides you because honestly if you both "men and women" all were honest with each other from the get-go you wouldn't have all this heartbreak to begin with, and all this well I can't find anybody. Oh totally, 100% agree! Honesty and consistency is key. In fact, I want a woman who casually sleeps around to also casually sleep with me! Ideally serial monogamy instead of poly, but as long as she’s open and honest I’d consider it! The…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:46 PM
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Oh that matters too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:40 PM
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Nah it totally is. If I’m dating a girl, I like her body and her personality. Of course I want to have sex with her, otherwise it isn’t dating. It’s just being friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:38 PM
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Seems men in general have become up tight or have maybe forgotten what the real definition of dating is . lol dating is having casual and amazing sex with someone fun, and seeing if it’ll blossom into a relationship. Dating without sex is just simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:36 PM
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are you a man are you taller than 5’10”? Do you bench atleast 175 lbs? Do you have well defined abs? are you swiping/sending messages on dating apps? do you drink on dates? do you know how to handle shit tests and are comfortable being touchy feely? If your answer is yes to all of these, then keep at it and it’s just a matter of time/numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:33 PM
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A lot of women (but not all) “mature” only when their looks begin to fade and they are looking to settle. If women were eternally young and hot, they’d overwhelmingly only date/sleep with the so called “bad boys”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:09 PM
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But even with that definition all liquids are wet because their molecules self-adhere via intermolecular forces…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:13 PM
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I would be super curious to see this data? Do you have it? Would be fascinating to see the overlaps. Edit: here you go, I found it https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/theredpill Lots expected but also some interesting overlaps: learnjapanese, realmadrid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:10 PM
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Yup, the only place even more disconnected from reality is twitter. That is absolute trash
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:08 PM
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You're taking advise from women who are single in their 30s and 40s on how to have a successful relationship? Do you ask obese people for diet tips too? To be fair, it’s an excellent strategy if you just do the opposite of whatever is recommended in FDS or by obese people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:07 PM
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They don’t need to get younger. However, they can develop healthy hobbies going outside like hiking. Going outside and being active will help women (and men) become more athletic, slimmer and more attractive in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:05 PM
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That’s very fair, apologies didn’t mean to insinuate anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 11:03 AM
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Subjective experiences are no substitute for objective/statistical data in a large enough sample size.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:27 PM
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It’s because personal anecdotes and opinions is no substitute to cold hard data. If you look objectively at the statistical evidence, it’s clear women massively prioritize height.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:41 PM
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My closest friends are all 5’10-5’11 with very successful careers, are beautiful, smart, thin, and could probably take their pick of men. They’re all married to someone shorter than they are. I think this discussion highlights something really interesting. Women tend to argue based on subjective “lived experiences” and personal feelings/anecdotes. Whereas men tend to argue based on objective facts and statistical data.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:39 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:20 PM
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No, that was directed at your comment, not his. You don’t seem to realize statistical differences because of your ideological bias. It’s unscientific and not backed by data or evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 05:45 PM
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we assume that talent is distributed equally across genders, every workplace will have 50:50 male to female ratio. There is not a situation where men will magically be able to earn more than women. Not true. Even if talent is equally distributed, the preferences of men and women can be different due to biology. I.e women can choose not to work in a high stress, high paying job in favor of a lower paying job but with more work/life balance (even though they are equally talented in the former ). Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:24 PM
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Math is hard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 11:50 AM
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It’s one of the few places to have a respectful disagreement with being immediately banned for wrongthink.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 11:09 AM
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But sex is biological even if gender identity is a choice right? If we agree that our behaviors and traits we find attractive have been selected for by millions of years of evolution and natural selection, that should apply to all people. Even if they are gender fluid, their biology (I.e. XX, XY or intersex) will play the defining role in their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 11:07 AM
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Everybody dies alone. Years following years, Steal something everyday, At last they steal us, From ourselves away. Hopefully before then you get to experience amazing mind blowing sex with a really attractive hot woman who’s into it. There’s simply no comparison to anything else in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:04 PM
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Both progressives and conservatives deny science when it suits their political agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:11 PM
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Agreed, but those extreme happy moments are transient and can’t be relied upon. In the words of Albert Camus Beauty is unbearable, drives us to despair, offering us for a minute the glimpse of an eternity that we should like to stretch out over the whole of time. As I grow older, I learn not to demand/rely on those extreme moments of happiness but just am grateful to be wealthier and happier overall. Lots of money helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:03 PM
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5 years ago I was making 50k a year and was moderately happy. 2 years ago I was making 120k a year and was quite happy. Now I’m making 250k a year and am extremely happy. The biggest source of happiness is that now I don’t have to worry about insurance, rent, retirement savings, vacations etc. For sure, more money gives you less stress and more happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:02 PM
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Not true, according to new research https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/22/new-wharton-study-people-are-happier-when-they-earn-more-money.html Conventional wisdom suggests that "money can't buy you happiness." And well-known research from 2010 had shown that people tend to feel happier the more money they make only up until a point of about $75,000 a year. But according to a new study out of University of Pennsylvania's The Wharton School, people's well-being rises with the amount of money they make, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:35 AM
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Yes indeed, it was exactly that post!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:00 PM
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When Reddit was in its heyday there was a great post that explained the answer to this question. In short, for women romance “just happens”. For them, it’s something that’s spontaneous as they are the passive recipient more often than not. Whereas any man knows the same thing is not true for them, there’s a lot of conscious effort and planning involved. It’s saying the right thing, acting a certain way, knowing when to escalate and when to back off. In contrast to women, men are active pursuers …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 04:55 PM
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I used to be strongly redpill at one point. This sub has definitely softened my views, and made me empathize with the blue pill/female point of view on many issues even if I disagree with it. I still am redpill but lean much more purple thanks to this sub. It’s also made me love my girlfriend even more and appreciate this moment and what we have, rather than worry about the future and what may happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 11:41 AM
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Sisters are typically more attractive than their brothers. The sisters typically tend to have more sexual partners than their brothers in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:21 PM
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The problem is, you aren’t a man of value (for short/long term relationships) unless you meet those standards (superficial or not) Ultimately, every man needs to decide for themselves if it’s worth the grind. For me personally, having hot sex with attractive women feels just absolutely amazing and so makes all the hustle and self-improvement worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:18 PM
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I’m not saying it’s always true, but there’s a perception that fat girls are easy and more open in bed. So men who prioritize easy sex will identify and date such women. Bigger fit girls are hot though, and should have little difficulty getting dates! In general, for reasons arising from evolutionary biology, I think most men will prefer petite, feminine looking women (wide hip to waist ratio, etc). It’s very similar to how most women prefer masculine looking men (large upper body, deep voice, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:41 PM
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You’d know if you weren’t a 35 year old asexual woman, but a man instead. Being “too friendly” is certainly not an attractive trait in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 08:27 PM
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I still disagree. Personality isn’t something that’s innate/set in stone like you presume. It can be changed. TRP helps you genuinely change yourself into a new person that’s attractive to women (e.g. more confident, outgoing, extroverted, less friendly and less of a people pleaser). You’re not faking anything, and there’s certainly no self-hating, it’s just the new you. There’s no pretending either, you’ve simply grown as a person. It’s no less real than the earlier version of you. This is some…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:21 PM
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See here’s where we have a difference of opinion. First, I’ll grant you that some elements of TRP are indeed misogynistic and demeaning. That said, I disagree with you as follows: human beings and the traits we find attractive have been selected for by evolution over hundreds of millions of years. It isn’t something that unique or mystical. Rather, social dynamics is a result of evolutionary forces like everything else. As a result, while everyone maybe individuals, there are clear patterns of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:25 PM
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No, I would hope those opinions are an extreme minority and plenty of people would clearly post the terrible risks of drinking bleach and that shooting yourself in the head is not safe. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Anti maskers are nuts, but we should engage and educate them with facts rather than just bans/suppressing free speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 12:52 AM
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Nah, it’s just the New York Times…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 08:53 PM
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Same here. I think what irks people the most about it is that on average, there really isn’t anything mysterious about attraction/dating. Things like dealing with shit tests, agree & amplify, being aloof, very forward/touchy/sexual, working out… all of this works in getting into both short and long term relationships with a lot of women. Attraction isn’t this mysterious thing that magically happens, instead it’a the result of a set of traits that each gender finds attractive via millions of year…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:00 PM
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The trick is not to date hot women on apps, but either average looking or slightly above/below average looking. In the wise words of silent Bob: There's a million fine looking girls in the world. But they don't all bring you lasagna to work. Most of them just cheat on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 03:16 PM
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Reddit shouldn’t ban exchange of ideas unless it’s criminal or directly encourages physical violence IMO. They way to fix misinformation is through more free speech, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 12:27 PM
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I bet she visits FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:55 AM
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Don’t listen to her. Go ahead and “fix the issue”, otherwise you’ll never get laid. Hit the gym, run, dress better. If you’re already in shape, flaunt it; women are equally shallow. Importantly, don’t be friends with women you’re attracted to, learn how to deal with shit tests (agree & amplify), be very forward/direct and sexual and take the initiative on dates. If she’s not interested, there’s always another woman who will be. Your time is valuable, don’t be a doormat for an attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:45 AM
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It’s because I think there’s an element of subconscious unease that has been selected for by evolution in raising a child who doesn’t share your genes. And from a conscious/societal sense, dating a single mom means you’ll always be second priority after her kids which is too much baggage for most. And you’ll be financially responsible for her and her kids too. Plenty of single dads around for single moms though!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:41 AM
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Who’s also fat and has a history of sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:38 AM
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Nah, next question please
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:16 PM
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I wish I could ask Camus. He was a genius. The Fall is probably my favorite book of all time. With his smarts and looks, he was probably wildly popular with the ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:18 AM
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A microbiologist who I met on OkCupid once was secretly a goth. On our third date, she invited me over, went to her closet and came out dressed up in a skimpy black goth outfit (with handcuffs and all) and innocently asked what I thought like they want a woman who will be mean to them/treat them like a submissive It’s the other way around. Goth women are usually submissive and like to be dominated in bed. Needless to say, It was the hottest third date I’ve ever had. It’s totally a submission/dom…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:21 PM
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Sex and intimacy is a fundamental human need, at the base of the Maslow pyramid along with food, shelter etc, and is necessary for well-being and overall mental health. Please educate yourself and stop trivializing mental health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:12 PM
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Oh they are very funny. The analogy is quite good and on point actually
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:48 PM
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1) exercise or gym - the world feels richer and more vibrant after a 5 mile run or squatting, benching and deadlifts. 2) curiosity- try to pick a subject you used to be interested in and learn and read more about it. It could be history, genetics, physics, music, culture etc. The world is a mysterious place full of rich surprises and questions to ponder 3) friends - there’s nothing more uplifting than quality time with trusted buddies. I know it’s tough during a pandemic but try to make time for…
/r/MGTOW09/03/21 02:48 PM
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No, sexual release is not the same need as sex with another human being. Fyi, sex with another human is on the Maslow pyramid, not masturbation. That doesn't mean we're ready to bounce on every cock that comes our way. Yes, and nobody's asking you to. Doesn't take away from the fact that the median woman has much easier access to sex. Men and women are fundamentally different that way in their lived experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 04:55 PM
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I wouldn't be so harsh. Who knows what she or anyone else has personally experinced!? However, at the end of the day, attraction isn't really "mysterious" (though most women believe it is). It's subject to evolutionary biology like all other aspects of human behavior. Everything makes sense only under the light of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 02:38 PM
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It's not that complex, most people aren't special snowflakes. At the end of the day it's just evolutionary biology. The traits each gender finds attractive has been selected for by evolution over hundreds of thousands of years all the way from the time of our common ancestors. This is why in a large enough sample size, most women are attracted to men with height, money, status, dominant personalities. Similar, most men are attracted to women with youth and beauty. Understanding this cold reality…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 12:51 PM
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I highly doubt most men are simps who think all their problems will be cured with pussy. Agreed, but most men, like most women, want sex. It's part of the Maslow hierarchy of needs. It's just that women have much easier access to sex with much less effort. The two sexes are fundamentally different in that way (even in the median, not just the outliers) Is it really that hard to accept the reality that women have it easier in getting access to sex? I'm not saying they have it easier dating overal…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 12:44 PM
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Sure, but that's the key difference between the genders. Even though they might act the same, one gender has much easier access to sex and relationships than the other. So there are fundamental biological differences, irrespective of culture, personality, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:33 PM
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For example, a whiny entitled man has more in common with a whiny entitled woman than he does with the average man. Lol, all else being equal: A whiny entitled man will never get sex. A whiny entitled woman will get sex on tap.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:53 PM
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It's because he hasn't yet learnt the answer "you're not as hot as her BF" Honestly TRP has a point here on putting "pussy on a pedestal". Women are every bit equal to men in terms of shallowness and superficiality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 11:56 AM
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Happiness and regular sex. Can't ask for more 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:52 PM
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Because there are few greater joys in life than having a hot and attractive woman screaming in ecstasy as you're fucking her brains out. The rush, thrill, power and pleasure is intoxicating. Don't knock sex till you've tried it. It's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 04:13 PM
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Well, I think transsexual people will beg to differ. They get to experience both worlds first hand!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 04:08 PM
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Well, congrats on your marriage but I hope the poor bastard doesn't find out
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:07 PM
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True, but that's because it's easy for the average woman to get casual sex. It takes nearly zero effort. It's much harder for a guy to get casual sex. He needs to have above average charm, looks, status, etc. It takes skill and effort. That's why the double standard exists. The real comparison should be with a guy who gives away commitment too freely (says I love you on the second date for example). He's the equivalent of the woman who sleeps around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:05 PM
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Sure, If you're a woman cause sex is easy like I said... Women can afford to live in a comforting fantasy. But for a guy, he needs to adapt (unless hes's tall/ripped/rich)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:45 PM
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The world isn't. You can either live in a comforting fantasy which is a lie, or adapt to the harsh reality. Women have sex/dating on easy mode
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 05:51 PM
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I disagree. I think it's unfortunate that egalitarianism and evolutionary biology is considered misogynistic these days. If anything, I think a lot of the responses to posts have been getting misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:20 PM
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Not worth as much as good sex. Really, good sex is the foundation of dating. Without it, there's nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 10:35 AM
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\thread
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 10:33 AM
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It's because of post-modernism and tendency for smart people to ignore evolutionary biology and scientific evidence if it doesn't agree with their egalitarian world view. A lot of people don't seem to realize the traits we.find attractive aren't random but have been selected for by evolution over millions of years. The transgender debate is another excellent example where feelings > facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:55 AM
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Titanic
/r/MGTOW06/08/20 10:37 AM
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Only if by average you mean "median" and not "mean" 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:55 PM
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Astrology is completely unscientific garbage, and doesn't have a shred of basis in reality Don't delude yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:53 PM
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The lack of a scientific understanding of how the universe works is mind-boggling. No wonder most women are blue pill and believe in astrology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:52 PM
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Makes sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 01:23 PM
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Basically, all you're saying is that it's a great strategy as a woman, but not so much for as a man. Totally agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:02 PM
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In the long run, it's a great thing. Once you've been burnt by fire, you learn to respect the flame.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:01 PM
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We've all been there my friend. Look back and laugh and think of it as a male rite of passage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 03:59 PM
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Sometimes is like < 1 percent . Not worth it as a man. Men should just cut their losses and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 03:58 PM
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Not an insult. My current girlfriend who wanted a relationship also slept with me on the second date. We just kept going out and sleeping with each other until she said she wanted a relationship three months in, which was perfectly fine by me. At the end of the day, I don't care if I'm alpha/beta or whatever. Like most men, I just want amazing sex and/or a relationship with a hot woman. If she willingly offers both, then great!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:54 AM
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Duh, it's cause their looks begin to fade and they can't date the hot, sexy, exciting guys anymore. So, they settle with Mr less attractive but stable and rich guy to have kids and raise a family with. If women stayed young, they'd only date the hot, sexy and exciting guy who's great in bed and would never settle. This is dating 101
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:47 PM
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It's interesting how all the subjective "but what about me" arguments in this subreddit seem to come from women. Rather than look at statistical data and objective evidence, they turn to their feelings and personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:48 PM
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This is simply not true. At its core, RP philosophy is the realization that the specific traits and personalities we find attractive in the other gender are fairly universal and have been selected for by natural selection and evolution. People aren't special snowflakes but exhibit fairly predictable patterns of behavior and are attracted to similar things. RP is about accepting that reality and trying to maximize the chance to get sex. For guys, that means being forward, dominant, rich, high sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:20 PM
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Love is just electrochemical signals in the neuron in your brains. It makes you feel nice, but doesn't mean it's not just biology and physics. Besides, sex feels great.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:29 PM
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Damn that's an amazing pick up line
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:28 PM
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You deserve gold. \thread Everything is just biology and physics. So what? Amazing how so many intelligent people don't realize this basic fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:27 PM
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Hello, I just wanted to stay I'm sorry you had some rough experiences and I hope things get better for you very soon! Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 02:13 PM
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The reason you see ugly men in dating apps is because they maintain the "she will love me for who I am on the inside, just wait until she gets to know me" mentality. Lol, the reason you see ugly men in dating apps is cause they want sex and physical intimacy like every other human
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 03:47 PM
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Ah, I've seen how you've previously posted on "how behavioral genetics is an enemy of the socialist cause". Explains a lot about you. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:53 PM
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I urge you take a introductory/college biology class to educate yourself instead of reading random stuff online, especially with words you don't understand the meaning of. There's a great introductory book by Campbell and Reece you might enjoy: https://www.pearson.com/store/p/campbell-biology/P100001205376/9780134093413 Your lack of expertise is painfully plain to see and a little embarrassing. Here's a good article that details how sexual dimorphism and women's preferences in height was a conse…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:32 PM
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Umm what?? It's precisely that because height is strongly dependent on genetics that it's subject to selection pressure. Specifically, women find men who are taller more attractive and are more likely to sleep and have offspring with them and propagate those genes. Conversely, short men are less likely to do so. That is the definition of selection pressure. Height preference is universal across all cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 09:16 AM
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It's all biology and natural selection. For some reason, even educated people seem to forget that evolution and biology applies to humans as well. We're all just greater apes in clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:36 PM
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Since you're a scientist, you should know the answer is rooted in evolutionary biology and natural selection. The traits and features we find attractive have largely been shaped by evolution. Women are biologically predisposed to being attracted to tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:35 PM
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For most men, sex is the purest expression of love. His partner offering enthusiastic, vocal and passionate sex is the best expression of love he could ask for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 11:56 AM
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https://youtu.be/UXXeIRRwGYY
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 11:06 PM
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Lol I'm not criticizing you, I was just asking you if you fully considered it, especially since you asked the question!! Although with such an easily triggered and aggressive personality, it doesn't surprise me you're single. Maybe you should work on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 07:07 PM
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Fair enough. Honestly,I don't know if I would. I may or may not. It depends on how strongly I feel about them and how compatible we are otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:46 PM
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Why not? I mean if it's a deal breaker to you, then fair enough. But what if he's kind hearted, compassionate, considerate and a good man otherwise? Does he make you feel happy and loved? Is his disability something you can overlook?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:08 PM
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I'm in a relationship now, but in my post RP dating phase, the biggest difference was that I was much more direct on dates and way more forward, physical and touchy. Previously I used to text for some time before meeting up and go out of my way to plan creative dates like museums, tennis or interesting restaurants depending on what she said in her profile. Post RP, I usually minimally text after we match just to set up the date. The first date (and most second dates) is mostly drinks at a bar. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 07:24 PM
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They mean free will is an illusion, and the laws of physics govern our interactions with the rest of the world, and what we think is control is merely an illusion of numerous electrochemical interactions in our brains Also that our innate biological drive has evolved by natural selection and evolution to shape a large part of our personalities. Yet it has resulted in us applying our personality and spending a lot of time and effort to mate and reproduce. At the end of the day, we are just animal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:49 PM
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Yeah I agree, and I hope someday I will be such a man and a good husband and father.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:54 PM
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It works on all types of women, including brilliant and intelligent women with PhDs. On average, women are objectively attracted to a specific personality type (dark triad behavior)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 01:42 PM
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No. But that doesn't mean you need to be a bluepill feminist doormat either. There's probably a happy balance between asserting your masculinity, dominance and confidence without being a misogynistic manipulative jerk, bit it's a thin line
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 01:40 PM
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Yeah fair enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 11:37 AM
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Good sex and physical chemistry is the single most important thing in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 11:26 AM
3

People typically reject or are skeptical of data that goes against their belief system.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 11:24 AM
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I disagree with you. TRP tells you about what behaviors are attractive to women and increases the probability that they sleep with you. It tells you about specific things: how to deal with shit tests by agree & amplify, how women (even feminist women) want to be led and their partner to be dominant (especially in bed), how critical lifting weights in the gym is; things which most people don't really emphasize the importance of. Most men and women aren't as individual like we'd like to believe. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 11:11 AM
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"it offends my feelings, so it must be false"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 03:15 AM
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In fact, all the players in the NBA should be swarmed by women wanting them more than any other man. Let me introduce you to the world of NBA groupies Money, power, status and looks are aphrodisiac to women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 03:14 AM
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👍 best of luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:45 PM
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Older women find committed relationships all the time and much easier than low value men will, honestly And you realize the older women are now settling with less attractive men/low value men than when they were younger, that makes them bitter and leads to increased divorces initiated by women right? Go to any relationship subreddit and read the mountains of post by 30+ year old women complaining they aren't able to find a compatible partner and instead all these loser men only want to have sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:41 AM
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I agree with her even if I’m in committed relationship, there is no incentive for women to give it up to men who have a higher likelihood of turning on them when they’re rejected or realize they have to prove their value. I'm in total agreement there! She should reject whoever she wants for whatever reason she wants. The problem is she's complaining that men are being "judgemental" about her history of casual sex and she's upset about it enough to vent and rant online. Well duh! That's just huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:28 AM
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And yet, these women will complain online about not being able to find a decent and reliable man to settle down with for a long term relationship as they age, and complain and vent about how men only want casual sex with them. I hope such women find peace of mind and a compatible partner someday!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:15 AM
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I disagree. He sounds empathetic and realistic. She sounds bitter, old and unsuccessful in getting a sufficiently desirable LTR through online dating and is venting here. It's okay, we understand and empathize and wish her the best and hope she finds a good man to settle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:12 AM
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The issue is once she grows and her looks begin to fade, she won't be able to keep fucking Chads. Then what? She'll need a good man to settle down with. Therefore, it's in her best interest to mock redpill losers so the good men will be non judgemental and supportive when she finally settled.down with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 03:21 AM
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And most women are "average" whereas most men are not. Hahahaha this wins stupid comment of the year
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 01:04 PM
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I disagree. Gender studies might be considered as an "academic" subject in universities, but it's more skin to philosophy than science. In fact, it's EXACTLY like literary criticism, which is also unscientific At the heart of the scientific method is that all hypothesis should be empirically tested with facts and data. Most of gender studies miserably fails this metric. It assumes certain tenets as unquestionably true, despite the lack of data (and in some cases, the presence of data showing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 09:01 PM
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Not only that, gender studies is not scientific. It's ideology. It's not based in evidence, data or facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 08:56 PM
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Hi 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:58 PM
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No they just realize the sad lies that religion peddles for what it is. There's nothing more liberating than letting go of faith and freeing the mind and being more empathetic and kind to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:48 PM
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Do you think Jesus died and came back to life 3 days later? And if so, what happened with the irerversible denaturing, conformational and structural changes to the proteins in his blood (that evolved over hundreds of millions of years) after metabolic activity ceases. Did that magically make an exception for Jesus? Do you believe there is life after death and specifically in the Christian heaven and hell? How do you make sense of the second law of thermodynamics and the concept of an eternal hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 01:08 PM
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Yeah fair point. It's remarkably similar to the red pill and blue pill in that sense 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 12:36 PM
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I'm not a materialist, I'm a scientist. So I value objective evidence and the scientific truth. I'd rather live with knowing what's true, even if it's uncomfortable than believe a comforting lie. And religion certainly gives some people comfort and peace. And I respect that! But, at the end of a day, it's a lie. Religion makes a set of claims about the observable universe that is inconsistent with the evidence (e.g. the ressurection of Christ, belief in life after death, heaven/hell, existence o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 12:33 PM
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I'm curious, why not run away? Is it social/family pressure? Something else? Like I can see why the community around church is nice, but surely you also see that the beliefs make no sense, especially from a scientific view? What I find it hard to understand is how one can live a life fooling oneself into believing things which are just plainly false and absurd. It seems so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 11:03 AM
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Alternatively, you could just deconvert from being Catholic as well? After all, it's not hard. God most probably doesn't exist and is made up by humans, the miracles don't make sense in a scientific worldview, and you don't need religion to be a moral and good person It's sad how many attractive girls have been brainwashed by religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 10:34 AM
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The curse and blessing of the gods.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 06:56 PM
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No, I'm not at all saying she should not strive for happiness. She certainly should do whatever makes her feel happy! I'm just pointing out that as bad she thinks she has it on relationships/sex/dating, the average man has it much worse! So she could perhaps take a broader perspective to lessen her discomfort (as in the realization, hey as bad as it is for me, I'm still much better off than the average man).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:24 PM
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For a relationship you need sex + emotional intimacy. Average Women: can easily get sex, less easily emotional intimacy Average man: can neither get sex nor emotional intimacy without significant effort. So, relationships are much easier for the average woman. This should be common knowledge. How are we even debating this basic fact in 2019??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 03:09 PM
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No, women are individuals with their own wants, desires and needs according to PPD dudes. It's just their lives are far easier for relationships, sex and dating compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 02:35 PM
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Her life is very easy compared to the average man...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 01:39 PM
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The top 10 percent of men...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 01:35 PM
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The point is, you're still better of than most men. So, learn to appreciate life and be grateful for what advantages you have i.e. access to easy sex and attention whenever you want it, on your terms, and not having to be alone. Most men would be really glad to have 1/10th of that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 01:32 PM
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Oh you're right. Seems like I was the one who missed the original point! Totally agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 09:20 PM
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Lol I think you missed their point! It goes like this A relationship = physical intimacy (sex) + commitment/emotional intimacy For most women, sex is easy to get. Even for fat ugly women, sex is easy to get. So atleast they get one part of the equation. For most men, sex is hard to get. Bald ugly men typically get nothing. They get no part of the equation. So, fat women have an easier life than bald women. QED
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 09:07 PM
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Lol and who does all the shit jobs? Cleaning sewers? Construction work? Dying fighting fires? Men. Because women make it that way. The point is, men have a larger tail on both ends of the distribution. At the top AND at the bottom. It's the greater male variability hypothesis. On average, women have a much easier and priveleged life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:32 PM
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Women don't face the same hardships as men. They lived a priveleged life
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 05:23 PM
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You might be shocked to know, but there is this thing called "the outside" and "real life" 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:32 PM
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Well... Statistically speaking....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 05:31 AM
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The Blue Pill won. Only on the internet and the media. We all know what's going to happen in the polls... Let's not act like we expect anything different. Common people outside the Twitter/reddit echo chamber are so sick of this PC and SJW authoritarian nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 05:30 AM
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There's nothing to give up, actually. Reality doesn't care one way or another. Even if the world is fully feminist, it can't change the reality of scientific facts, evolutionary biology and the traits we are attracted to. The feminists can say whatever they want in public. But most sane people will soon realize what they say in public for virtue signalling points is not how they act in private. Tall men will always get laid easier than shorter men, irrespective of whatever ideological statements…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:06 AM
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Keep digging
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 09:17 PM
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Lol, projecting much?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:43 PM
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That's a bad copout and you know it. Obviously there's no single set of genes that causally determines specific behavior. You already know that the enormously complex interactions between a range of different alleles, and the environment, all subtly influence behavior. But that doesn't mean we're all blank slates. Biology and particularly sex differences, influences these traits bit does not determine them. For example, most of us know women who are taller than men, and men who are shorter than …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:09 PM
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There is no purpose to men or women, just like there's no purpose to an electric eel. Both men and women are the result of hundreds of thousands of years of natural selection and evolution. The traits and behaviors they exhibit (e.g. AF/BB) and the qualities they are attracted to only make sense under the light of evolutionary biology This is why most women are much pickier and more hesitant to casual sex compared to men (higher risk of pregnancy and the ensuing period of fragility). Everything …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 01:38 PM
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Years following years, steal something everyday; at last they steal us, from ourselves away
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 03:53 PM
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What makes you low value is wanting casual sex and not getting it Attractive men have little issue getting causal sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 10:47 PM
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Okay, but I think that's what you think, as you are a woman. Men are biologically different and work and think differently. Especially as they are nerdy dorks it's even more likely they fathomed having sex with you. It's how men work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 03:34 PM
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Yes, but they at some point probably internally fathomed having sex with you. I guarantee it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 03:26 PM
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Why didn't you ask him out, like on a date, if you were into him?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:51 AM
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I think a single man and women can only be true friends if (i) she's a colleague at work who's off-limits (ii) she's already married, LTR with your guy friends, etc. (iii) she's fat/ugly/old/unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:47 AM
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All men think about fucking their women friends, if she's attractive enough. They might not do anything about it, but they still think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:45 AM
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Free attention, what's not to like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:44 AM
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Hey, atleast you're free now, and can look back and laugh at it, cheers dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:42 AM
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Existentialist, not hedonist. You should read up some Albert Camus. I'd recommend "The Stranger" and "Myth of Sisyphus" "The struggle itself ... is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:38 AM
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= 💰💰💰
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 01:18 PM
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It's a very true observation. Another empirical data point is physcisgirl on YouTube. Yes she's smart and talented but there are plenty of science/physics YouTube channels. I think her disproportionately huge popularity is strongly tied to her good looks. You don't see minority/PoC women who aren't "traditionally" attractive have the same level of popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 01:45 PM
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Maybe not the best but WAAAY better than average. He was amazing in his prime Remember the freekick against Greece? Or all those pin point crosses to RVN?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 01:42 PM
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It's analagous to the "nice" descriptor for men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 03:00 PM
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This is perfectly understandable in the context of evolutionary biology. Sperm is abundant and plentiful whereas eggs are expensive. Men are inherently disposable and replaceable, unlike women, who are critical in carrying an offspring. For this reason, nobody cares about men because they are replaceable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 03:14 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 03:56 PM
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Okay, how can I do that? Just message you or is there some other mechanism?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 03:12 PM
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How is it incel content? I'm just pointing out that attraction has a huge physical/econxomic component
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 02:19 PM
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My guess is he's either short, or otherwise isn't physically attractive or is poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 12:40 PM
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I'm sorry for your loss
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 12:38 PM
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Lol fair enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 12:34 PM
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Not always but it often is, especially in your 20s and 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:33 AM
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Yes, I agree with you, it's a little creepy for a 30 year old to date a 19 year old for the reasons you mention. But, at some point (early to mid 20s) the woman is an adult and the responsibility equally shifts on her. She's being an idiot, if she dates a rich/mature older and blames him for "manipulation" instead of taking responsibility and being self accountable for her choices. But of course, it's a wasted argument because women hate taking responsibility or admitting they were equally to bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 09:10 AM
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It's because you're thinking like a man, not a woman. Remember that men are disposable. If he had selfishly locked her down, think of the fun experiences she would have missed afterwards with other men! So from her pov, in hindsight, trying to lock her down was predatory. 🐹🎡
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 06:32 AM
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Evolutionary biology. They share half their dna with their kids, and so evolution has selected for behavior that puts the kids first, to maximize probability that those genes are further passed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 10:58 AM
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That's just not factually true. She voluntarily sucked his dick twice. All she had to say was no and walk away. She did not speak or act clearly. It was only after she voluntarily finished sucking dick, when she clearly said no to sex, Aziz immediately stopped (even though he was a pushy asshole). But, men want sex. If a woman is uncomfortable, she should definitely vocalize and make it clear instead of giving mixed signals that might mean she's interested in having sex with you (like voluntaril…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:24 AM
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You go girl!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:53 PM
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Very legal
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/04/19 01:00 PM
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That'll pass. I don't think it'll lead to happiness, but more a resigned acceptance of how reality works. At the end of the day, your biological drive is the great equalizer. The urge to get laid with attractive women will override all your moral programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 12:07 PM
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And an analogy is not literal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 05:50 PM
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Sure, agreed. Personally, I think they're less upset with a 9 banging a Chad, and more upset that a 5 or 6 is banging a Chad when young but only interested in them when she's older
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 11:52 AM
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Those average girls and dudes are probably fat and unattractive Atthe end of the day, it's all about being attractive, and not being unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:14 AM
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Exactly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 02:29 AM
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Think about it from the perspective of evolutionary biology. Before condoms and birth control, what do you think happened with high n count women? Given the option between having their kids or spending money on raising someone else's, what do you think they chose?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 02:01 AM
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I don't disagree with you too much. If they are happy and it works out, good for them. But I just wish more guys had more self respect and were more self aware of the fact that many women will only settle with them as a meal ticket after "learning from her mistakes". As an alternative point of view to your happy outlook, many of these marriages inevitably end in unhappiness, divorce and dead bedrooms. In that case, the marriage can be a net loss for him after the initial period of infatuation, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:35 PM
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I agree they are cute, to some! It is also a textbook definition of AF/BB. Good on that dude for falling in love and raising her kids after 30 years now she's older and looking for someone to settle with. True love indeed, brings a tear to the eye! How incredible and romantic the "good guy" was there all along right next to her while she was failing in all her relationships when she was younger. Such a feel good story There's a fine line between realism and pessmism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:27 PM
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Here is a recent textbook example for doubters http://archive.li/sS7WX
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 04:41 PM
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Nah, it's the women who are wasting their own time. This is exactly the female equivalent of a guy being friendzoned. I.e. investing time and being emotionally available for a women in the hope of getting laid, but never getting any. By your logic, is it the woman's fault for wasting his time? Or was the man entitled in expecting sex and should have called the friendship quits?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 05:18 PM
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I think this is a classic example of "feels vs reals" and the divide between the pills that I don't think will ever be bridged. When discussing dating, relationships and sex, women and bluepillers tens to rely on subjective, personal experiences and feelings while disregarding facts. Men and redpillers rely on objective empirical data, evidence and facts while disregarding feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 05:12 PM
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A relevant book is the biologist EO Wilson's "On Human Nature". Great post by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 05:10 PM
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Are all women this unscientific? We're talking about people, who along with the other great apee, have evolved from a common ancestor by natural selection. We're talking about how the traits we find attractive have been subjected to natural selection, not magical wishy-washy thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 05:08 PM
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The women who were married knew too. Takes two to tango
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 04:32 AM
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Just a intense sexual desire and a limited time frame. That's the human condition in a nutshell. We are all animals evolved from a common ancestor, subject to a mortal lifespan and slaves to our biological urges. Best of luck, hope you reach your goal of moving out of Brazil soon
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 04:31 AM
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Yeah, exercise is one of the best antidotes to depression! Even starting something like a 5k walk, and transitioning to a jog/run will do wonders for your mood and outlook. All the stress and worries melt away after a workout session, even if it isn't magically going to get you a GF. It's basically a combination of many things, but the most important things you can do to increase the chance of getting sex/a relationship are: 1) working out and putting on some muscle. Doesn't need to be a lot, ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 01:57 PM
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Well, I'd recommend you hit the gym, learn how to agree & amplify, don't be friends with women you're attracted, dont to listen to feminists for dating advice and be direct and forward if you wanna get laid. You've still got tons of time, I had a lot of success in dating only after 26,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:10 PM
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Yup! Did for me and I'm Indian. The biggest reason I got successful at online dating was hitting the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:43 PM
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Well, but what you don't realize is the first guy isn't objectively as attractive as the second guy. Women aren't just looking for relationships, they are looking for relationships with attractive men. Attractive men of course have much more options and can get a lot of casual sex. So, if they want a relationship, they have to sleep with him because otherwise some other woman will. Unattractive men get nothing. They aren't automatically entitled to sex, just like women aren't entitled to relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:58 PM
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I agree 100 percent with you, it's my biggest turn off as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:56 PM
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My success online dating seems to depend mostly on how much effort I put in— am I messaging first? Am I responding in a timely fashion with interesting responses? Very true, but surely you realize the same argument can be applied to men, as in men have lives too. Like you, men are college students too with lives, workloads, etc. Yet, they are still expected to send messages, make the investment, etc otherwise they aren't getting a date. In fact, all the statistics show that even the most attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:52 PM
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No, it'snot that they are good or bad, just that they are statistical outliers and not representative of the median relationship. Obviously, most people are not child free, and so exhibit entirely different behaviors when choosing a partner to get married to and have a child with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:42 PM
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Wait a minute, what's so outrageous about the first comment? I'm trying to understand your line of thought here. The first comment makes a series or the following observations: 1) humans, chimpanzees, bonobos, etc all evolved from a common ancestor 2) men and women have different risks and costs in having sex. A woman has a significantly higher risk during the 9 month gestation peroid, the risk is much lower for a man. So, the woman has an incentive to be picky, and also completely display diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:24 PM
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Good for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:22 PM
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You have to have some sympathy for them though. Now they're 35+ and the looks begin to fade, of course they're going to feel "attacked" and "judged" if men start rejecting them for their history. It's certainly doesn't seem fair I mean, they can't magically become unfucked
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:24 PM
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That's fair, but at the end of the day humans are just animals in clothes. Yes we have a brain, but we are subject to the same biological drives and impulses. Nothing inherently right or wrong with chasing for sex with attractive people. It's just one of the many ways of living life. Now I agree that some men are frustrated and angry when they can't achieve this, because the reality is it's much easier for women to have casual sex with attractive men, and I think that's what upsets many men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 11:44 AM
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Why? He/she is right though. There's no such thing a soul, and objectively speaking a "soulmate" doesn't exist. It's just two people deeply in love thinking they're a soulmate due to chemical signals in the brain Human beings have evolved to fall in love for a specific reason (parents staying together increases the odds of the child surviving and a higher chance their DNA will be passed to offspring) The traits we find attractive and the people we fall in love with has been selected for by evolu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:39 AM
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Wait what? It is literally the same thing you said though 🤔 Are you trolling on purpose? If so, kudos, great job 👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:23 AM
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Best never to upgrade, they tend to grow on you with time ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:25 PM
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Oh no, you've already got a hot young hubby, well done! Happy for both of you and long may it last! But, if you were for some reason back in the market in half a decade or so, the new guys you'll date probably won't be physically hot, but more likely a average looking (but tall!) rich guy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:18 PM
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Yup exactly, so they get a rich, but physically average/highly educated/skinny-fat/passive /dad bod/less experienced (but still tall!) man When they're young, they get the hot, muscular, aggressive, more experienced, physically attractive men. Your observation is AF/BB in a nutshell
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 12:32 PM
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I totally agree with you, men can be very shortsighted indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 04:05 PM
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I agree with you. It's not the fault of women or men. It's just biological reality, selected for by evolution. Men and women are fundamentally different in what they're attracted to Women want you to not be a total scrub, while statistically still earning more. Men want you to not be a total scrub, while still being thin and not very out of shape. It's just the way people are made.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 03:12 PM
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Yeah but the point is it's much easier for a woman with no job or significant debt to get a date or into a relationship than a man in a similar situation So it points out that, on average, women are mainly valued for looks/sex whereas men are valued for money/resources (of course there are exceptions to every generalization)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 12:45 PM
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Yeah and with that realization comes acceptance and some semblance of freedom. That's why the fast bikes/card, leather jackets etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 11:42 AM
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The most useful and practical things I learned was concepts like agree & amplify, the importance of not being friendly to women you're attracted to but instead direct and forward, the necessity to lift and embody masculine traits, to not show emotional weakness and to remain aloof, calm and reserved at most times. It has dramatically increased my success in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 11:39 AM
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Because they want to get laid Men crave being physically wanted and desired and use money and resources towards that goal. Women are the ones who choose who to have sex with. Men think they can woo women (for sex) by showing off money/resources It's a tale as old as time and evolution
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 10:56 AM
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This is true. When you are alive, you aren't dead yet and when you are dead there's no "you" anymore so it doesn't matter and it'll be like the eons before you were born. The process of dying will probably suck, but maybe best to think of happy things and memories during that point if you can, maybe some of the good things you did that made life worth living
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 01:59 PM
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Oh, you can be very successful and make everything of your life and still realize that reality is harsh. I don't think the two have a correlation Many men realize that that life is often uncaring towards them, that there is no objective meaning or purpose and that each person creates their own, and that's just how life is. Many women realize this too, but there's a key differenc in that they are less alone and lonely. I think the problem is that you are basing your worldview on a false egalitari…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 03:16 PM
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I think you may be replying to the wrong comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 02:12 PM
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I disagree. Life definitely feels a little less emptier after having sex with an attractive woman. It makes the guy feel less alone, more physically desired and wanted, and acts as a temporary barrier against the harsh reality of an indifferent world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 01:08 PM
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There's always Sarah Jeong or Jessica Valenti
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 02:22 PM
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Don't you see the female imperative is as natural and as much biology as TRP? Not sure what you mean by "mUh BiOlOgy". Do you agree with the idea that the human brain, and the traits that both genders find attractive, have been shaped by evolution and natural selection? How can anything escape the forces of biology? Sex IS as critical to women as men. But that doesn't men and women pursue the same sexual strategy in obtaining what they want. Women can and should have the right to pursue whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 01:10 PM
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What you don't understand is the context of biology and evolution. All people want to have sex, it a basic biological need. For reasons that are evolutionary in origin, women are much choosier in having sex than men. That's the way it's been since hunter gatherer times, and that's how it will continue to be. In modern society, where women are financially self secure, they can get as much sex as they want with whomever they choose (which wiill necessarily exclude many men). Similarly, most men ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 12:49 PM
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First of all, you shouldn't slut shame or judge women. TRP wants to have sex with attractive women. Many women will rapidly have sex with the right man, TRP wants to be that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 12:34 PM
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In the average population, I fully agree, although there are always exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 01:06 PM
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Although statistically, many high status male doctors marry women who earn much less than them (e.g. nurses, teachers, secretaries, therapists, etc) High status women doctors statistically don't marry men who earn much less than them. So status (and more precisely, earning potential) plays a huge role in who women chose to date and marry. For women, I think the qualities of youth, beauty, exclusivity and empathy is perceived as high status by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 11:35 AM
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I'm glad we figured out your stance isn't based in reality or evidence, but a blind cult like fanaticism immune to reason or critical thinking.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 11:48 AM
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About time. Thank you mods
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 11:45 AM
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Again you are ascribing a subset of MGTOW beliefs to the entire population, based on a strawman. Personally, I don't ascribe to the MGTOW ideas. But I have plenty of buddies who are MGTOW but still sleep around, and don't think women are corrupt or disgusting. Like most people, you are attributing a simplistic set of beliefs, driven by a misguided sense of morality, on a complex and nuanced subject. I've seen plenty of men, who even respect and love women, live a MGTOW lifestyle simply because o…
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 11:41 AM
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Reality is not the experience of anything and is most certainly not man-made, that's just semantic nonsense dude. Things like the speed of light, the gravitational constant, etc. exist irrespective of what you experience, or even if whether humans are around to experience it. The earth existed for 6 billion years, long before humans were present, and will continue to exist long after our species goes extinct. There's an independent reality out there, subject to universal physical laws, no matter…
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 11:32 AM
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What about rich, powerful, successful and competent non-believers?
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 11:26 AM
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Reality isn't man made. The universe functions according to an objective set of rules and principles, independent of men or whatever you feel. This is a classic example of putting "feels before reals". JP is a sophisticated nutjob. Do you really think, like JP says, ancient civilizations knew about the molecular structure of DNA? The man is a charlatan and will say whatever blue pill nonsense to naive and willing young men in search of rules to guide their lives, simply to sell his books and mak…
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 11:09 AM
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Sure, do you realize JP is on record saying that the ancient civilizations (like the ancient Chinese, Aborigines, etc.) intuitively knew the molecular double helix structure of DNA? He's a religious kook dude. He needs a redpill to understand that all religious belief is man made and has no intrinsic truth or value. The roots of TRP is based on natural phenomena like evolution and natural selection. The redpill is that all people are attracted to behavior traits and physical attributes that are …
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 10:47 AM
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He isn't wrong though. JP needs a redpill about religion.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/18 10:38 AM
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Wow talk about projecting and missing the point and lacking any empathy whatsoever. Sure attention isn't free, but atleast there's some attention!! First of all, you're slut shaming women. Plenty of women dress up to a social gathering (meetup, bar, dance clubs, etc) for.the purpose of attention from men. YOU are just nitpicking here. YOU EVEN ADMIT THAT all women need to do physical intimacy is just make themselves available. Surely you see it's much worse when one is TRULY alone like men? How …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 09:55 PM
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It's not "spreading their wild oats", but having a moment of physical intimacy every now and then to make the world seem like a less lonely place. If a woman feels down and wants attention, she just has to dress up and go to a bar. She gets free attention, drinks, and physical affection from guys if she so chooses. It's the basic human need of feeling desired and wanted. Most men experience NONE of this. They cannot get the experience feeling wanted and desired the same way, or with the same eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 09:11 PM
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Haha maybe you're projecting your bitterness? I'm in a perfectly happy relationship. However, that doesn't take away from the objective reality that women have it easier in dating. Most women can get sex and physical intimacy whenever they want. They don't need to be alone. Most men cannot, and experience loneliness in a way women cannot relate to. Both genders deal with a shitty life, but women have it easier in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 08:34 PM
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What's your plan of action? You are correct, but don't be bitter, be proactive. Can't change the preferences of people, so you need to adapt. Plenty of short girls around. Get rich, get successful, and play the field my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 04:52 PM
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The big difference is everybody's life sucks to various extents, but as cynical as it sounds, you can get physical intimacy, and not be alone. whenever you want. Basically, it all boils down to sex (except sex, which is about power). Many men (and women) have lives that are a stinking pile of shit, and suffer through it. But the average man has the unique distinction in being truly alone in a way only a few women will experience. The two genders are fundamentally different in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 04:40 PM
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Wall of text aside, women absolutely do have it easier in dating, which is kinda the point of this subreddit. Indeed, if a happy relationship = physical intimacy (sex) + emotion intimacy, then: (I) the average woman might struggle to get the latter but can get physical affection/intimacy any time with basically no effort (2) the average man gets nothing and is alone. So, objectively speaking, surely you realize that the average woman has it easier dating than the average man? It doesn't mean lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 04:32 PM
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As far as walls of texts go, yours is pretty reasonable. I agree with most of what you say, and it has been similar to my experience approaching 30 as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 09:50 PM
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The honest answer is, we don't know. The meta summary of peer reviewed studies seem to be, there is minimal to no differences in the average ability between the genders, but differences in interest. Here's a summary of the scientific literature from Prof. Jon Haidt at U Chicago: https://heterodoxacademy.org/the-google-memo-what-does-the-research-say-about-gender-differences/ Gender differences in math/science ability, achievement, and performanceare small or nil Gender differences in interest an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 01:22 PM
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While I share a lot of your discomfort, one has to admit the data driven approach is equally valid and very powerful in certain cases. My point is, with the powerful modern stastical analysis tools, it's very possible to conclusively determine what variables are most critical with no apriori hypothesis. Not only that, in some cases the big data approach can be the best way to avoid preconcieved biases, and be supreior to the hypothesis driven approach. Here's a fantastic article that summarizes …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 01:09 PM
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Hypothesis first. Data to perhaps confirm. Not Data to hypothesis. Quick aside, but that's not necessarily true. In fact, what you describe are 2 entirely distinct but valid approaches in the scientific community 1) The first is the hypothesis driven research model, that you describe. Where, one frames a hypothesis, gathers data to objectively evaluate the hypothesis (e.g. using double blinded studies) that either supports or refutes the hypothesis. 2) The other is the so-called empricial, data-…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 12:47 PM
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But you could argue that it was PC culture that led to liberals eschewing the presumption of innocence, and to hasten implementing idiotic policies like title IX. Personally, I think it's based on the PC/SJW belief that women are the weaker sex and need extra protection, or that it's important to always believe the accused, etc. In fact, /u/TheGreasyPole had a good comment that summarizes this line of thought in this thread. But relying on the law was “part of rape culture” you see, and feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 01:05 PM
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Yeah, it's mentioned at the end of the article too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 01:03 PM
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No, I don't think there is any problem in the dating world. All behaviors you mention are just large scale manifestations of underlying biological drives as shaped by evolutionary forces. It might not be fair, but that's just reality. Nature isn't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 01:00 PM
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Haha, sadly I'm much more cynical than you are. I think the only thing you need to predict initial attraction is simply a metric for looks. Everything else will be correlated strongly to that metric (common ground, compatibility, etc). At the end of the day, humans are just greater apes with clothes, and raw physical attraction is at the heart of dating. Also, because of the biological differences between the genders, I think the average woman will have a much easier time dating, getting compani…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 04:36 PM
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I strongly disagree with you. I do a lot of work with unsupervised machine learning too, and am confident that machine learning can do an INCREDIBLE job predicting human feelings and actions. Why do you think it's such an integral part of predicting consumer buying behavior in nearly every market, and there's such a demand? I'd guess it won't even take any genius to figure out the key metric in matching people for dating. As the recent okcupid statistical data showed, there's nearly a perfect li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 04:20 PM
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It is factual information in the sense it provided an objective rational for the aversion to cuckolding in most men. Namely, evolutionary biology dictates that men should be predisposed to be disgusted by cuckolding because it is detrimental to the propagation of their individual genes. In contrast, the same selection pressure does not apply for women. It's the exact same reason why, in a statistical sense, men are averse to high N-count women as long term partners, and why women are predisposed…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:26 PM
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Sure, but you asked. I strongly feel that "Grace" is every bit as guilty as Aziz.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 07:59 PM
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Aziz Ansari
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 11:14 AM
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But the problem is when it comes to access to sex though. Males exhibiting alpha-type behavior get plenty of sex with average to attractive women. Most women also get casual sex pretty easily. In contrast, males exhibiting beta type behavior usually don't. That disparity is at the root of why it's used as an insult. Its the same reason most women (even feminists who should be egaltiarian) virgin shame men as an insult. At the end of the day, nearly everything boils down to sex and biological dri…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 12:50 PM
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I agree with all that. I was just pointing out that he's also pretty much considered as a text book redpill example by the rp subreddit. http://archive.is/62HdH Yeah, people can self declare whatever they want. More than the labels of what they call themselves, it's physical characteristics and certain objective masculine traits that are key in attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 02:35 AM
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You realize that Russel Brand is a living example of how to destroy shit tests and agree and amplify right? The man is a walking redpill example, his humor is cocky, confident, brazen and can be very provocative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 02:08 AM
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Yes, if the male feminist is tall, muscular, good looking, and physically attractive, knows how to flirt/tease and agree & amplify. The same way Emma Watson is an attractive feminist, while "big red" most probably is not. At the end of the day, I hope everyone realizes it's simply biology. We're all just apes in clothes trying to over rationalize attraction. The traits we find attractive have been shaped by millions of years of natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 03:56 PM
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Of course, the most obvious and strongest evidence is the direct effect of chemical and physical changes in brain to experiences and behavior. Almost every drug or medicine that alters your mood, feelings and experiences does so via direct interaction of specific structural proteins and drugs (aka physical matter) with receptors. Second is the example of people with sudden changes such as injuries to specific regions of the brain, who undergo massive changes in behavior, personality, feeling and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 04:38 PM
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Many ways. For example, the arrangement of atoms and molecules that constitute you could have instead constituted a slug. Many million years ago, some evolutionary common ancestor of all humans could have gone extinct by random chance and replaced by something that gave to slugs instead of humans. We are all lucky to be here. It's all meaningless luck at the end of the day, so best to appreciate the beauty of reality, be curious and learn about the world, and enjoy the moment everyday before we …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 03:12 PM
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Because, it feels amazing to have pleasurable sex with really attractive women. It's much easier for women to have sex with attractive men than vice versa, which is why men have to put all the time and effort into becoming high value. If the average man could sleep around with the same ease as the average woman, you wouldn't need TRP. Fundamentally, it boils down to how men and women are biologically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 03:23 PM
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I strongly disagree. I think he's way hotter than her. I am a guy, for reference. I'd hazard a guess you're a awoman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 01:47 PM
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The tennis player/model Genie Bouchard is dating some random guy off twitter
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 05:52 AM
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Sure, I'll agree most women don't want just dick, but they can get physical intimacy whenever they want with a guy they deem attractive enough (and with still a small chance of a relationship). So, I think the total lack of physical AND emotional intmacy, and being truly alone, is something most women don't have to deal with. So I guess the question is, if an ideal relationship is physical + emotional intimacy, then is physical intimacy alone by itself (with no emotional intimacy), still better …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 08:57 PM
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I think the biggest difference is, when most women take a break and let go from the investment of dating for a long term compatible partner, they still get easy access to sex and physical intimacy. They do not truly have to be alone. For most men, there's nothing. They have to be alone and lack physical intimacy. That's why while letting go might be an option for women, it's much harder for men. Basically it all boils down to how men and women are very different and each gender will never grasp …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 03:49 PM
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Poor dude, that guy Mathew is definitely not getting any lol.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/18 07:34 PM
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Also, maintain frame and never apologize if you didn't commit any crime, even if you are trying to be reasonable. Aziz didn't do anything wrong in this case, yet apologized. No apology is ever enough with the SJW types. They'd rather see people burn defending their mistaken ideology instead of use reason or logic, it's very much like a cult.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/18 03:12 PM
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Not at all, don't apologize you make some excellent points. Hm, okay you're right, it's not a "side", and very simplistic of me to label it as such. You are right, at the end of the day, it's about the objective scientific evidence that supports each hypothesis, rather than a doctrine of good vs evil. I understand very little about this "feel uncomfortable with the idea of being settled for by a woman who has had a ton of attractive sexual partners when younger with no effort" business. You're e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:53 AM
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They don't care. It's as simple as that. The world is a cold, miserable and unfair place and nobody is going to look out for you other than yourself (or your family, in lucky cases).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:09 PM
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I don't think it is manipulation, when women are independent adults who also make the descision to have casual sex. It takes two to tango. They aren't puppets, but are individuals who have their own wants and needs. You don't want to be a misogynist and take agency away from women who have casual sex, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:08 PM
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So-called empirical and objective evidence in RP is mistaken for anecdotal evidence, really bad over-simplified studies, and stereotype-driven theories You mean anectodal evidence mistaken for empirical evidence? I'd tend to disagree. I think the core tenants of TRP are based in evidence, i.e., (i) women have much easier access to sex. And they typically have casual sex with physically attractive dominant men when younger, and financially secure men when older. The average man doesn't have this …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:00 PM
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Well, I fundamentally disagree with you, because in my opinion, you have a wrong definition of "knowledge". The only definition that makes sense is in the empirical context. When you can objectively and independently experimentally verify a set of predictions, only then do we have knowledge in a scientific context. Most superstitious beliefs like belief in the afterlife, power of prayer are demonstrably false, and inconsistent with a scientific worldview. As a simply example, take belief in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:14 PM
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Use your brain and treat each human being you encounter as unique and complex. Find people you admire and respect in real life to use as templates. The categorization of people into alpha beta whatever is very very flawed, and leads to misunderstandings and many errors. I lean RP, and partly agree with this. There are objective trends and some predicatability in sexual behavior across the genders, but there is also sufficient variation that each interaction can go in many complex ways. I think, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:07 PM
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By going beyond the anger phase. Sexual dimorphism and differences in mate choices is simply an outcome of evolutionary biology and natural selection. That's just how the world works. You can be horrified or upset by it. Or you can accept the reality AF/BB, and try to maximize your sexual strategy as a man with that knowledge, and try to minimize the risk of being BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:04 PM
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Escaping death by not being indoctrinated into an unhappy beta provider role is being saved. After escaping this brainwashing one is gloriously free to live whatever life they want and are capable of, hopefully with fewer self-limiting mental obstacles. Absolutely agree. To quote the great state of New Hampshire, "Live free or die".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 08:59 PM
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The winter nights are long and cold, and sharing it with an attractive woman who physically desires and wants you, however temporary, is infinitely better than sleeping alone. So yes, theredpill transformed my life and totally saved me from that lonely hell, and has made life much more pleasurable and tolerable, despite drawbacks in some areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 08:57 PM
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I agree existence is absurd, but the scientific worldview (physics/biology/chemistry and evolution + natural selection, etc) makes way way more sense than any superstitious religious bullshit (power of prayer, belief in heaven/hell or afterlife, ressurection, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 08:54 PM
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it's not a question of a happy, comforting belief, but one that is objectively true and supported by empirical evidence. For some people, it is far better to grasp the harsh cold hearted truth of how reality works, than live with a comforting lie. Religious beliefs are simply inconsistent with a scientific understanding of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:47 PM
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PhD scientist in biophysics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 07:17 PM
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Humans are subject to the same evolutionary forces that Bonobos are. Just because we have evolved a brain and conciousness doesn't mean we are immune to innate predispositions and biological drives. Indeed, the brain, and the resulting behaviors, traits, etc we find attractive has been strongly been shaped by evolution. It's not a question of "meaning" or how humans ought to function, but the reality of how they do. The reality that, at a population level, muscles, height, money , status and dom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 05:48 PM
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Who decides who is “looksmatched”? Both partners do, by using attraction triggers that have been selected by evolutionary biology. Natural selection and evolution is at the heart of everything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 04:58 PM
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I wouldn't say lesser (though I admit TRP often tends to), but instead, different. I.e., statistically speaking, women are more emotional, less rational, more interested in community/people, and are primarily sexually attracted to dominance/leadership/wealth/status, height and musculature. They tend to be turned off by passiveness, empathy, timidness, being short, etc. On average, women also pursure a clear sexual strategy of their own (i.e. r/k selection, cads vs dad's, alpha fucks/beta bucks, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:59 PM
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I really think you should write field reports only after you've slept with a girl. You'll see you are obsessing over irrelevant minutae and there's a whole world of women outthere to get over your oneitis
/r/TheRedPill12/12/17 02:58 PM
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Yup, I totally agree. It's much better to accept the cold and honest truth about how reality functions, rather than take comfort in some bluepill egalitarian fantasy that certain traits don't matter Kurt Vonnegut had an excellent line in one of his books that satirizes how humans crave comforting Bluepill illusions. Midget, midget, midget how he struts and winks, For he knows a man's as big as what he hopes and thinks! Men and women are not same in terms of what behavior/traits they value as att…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:53 PM
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Elastic deformations are usually recoverable. It's irreversible plastic deformations that tend to be the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:19 PM
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Ecactly right. Not God, but sexual dimorphism due to biological evoltion and natural selection. It's natural selection that has shaped, in a large enough sample size, what trait each gender finds attractive in the other. This idea is at the core of redpill thinking, amd completely at odds with the egalitarian "feel good" bluepill fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:15 PM
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a fantastic book that details this concept is Richard Dawkin's 'The Selfish Gene'.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/17 05:31 PM
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. It's not (only) because of you that you fail with women, it's because of hypergamy, AF/BB, 80/20, a gynocentric feminized society that makes being a man frowned upon. I don't see what's inherently wrong with this sentiment. I do think hyerpgamy, AF/BB, 80/20 etc. makes it much harder for the average man to find a sexual partner, when compared to the average woman. I think these are observations based in reality. i.e., it's much easier for the average woman to get laid/sex/relationships than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 03:35 PM
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I don't necessarily think TRP is part of alt-right. I'm pretty liberal/left-wing, but I agree with many aspects of TRP; because I think certain core beliefs are primarily rooted in evolutionary biology and observational evidence. Basically, the core belief is that, in a large enough sample size, the traits that men and women find attractive in the opposite gender are not arbitrary, but have been shaped by evolution and natural selection. Men and women are different; and are attracted to differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:42 PM
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It's only a question of "belief" if you don't look for the evidence. It's actually a fact based on reality and evidence, borne out of evolutionary biology and natural selection. Cads/Dads, R/K selection, name it what you want. These real facts and observations on differing sexual behavior between the genders have been around for a while... Statistically speaking, the average women has much easier access to sex than the average man, and consequently engages in a different form of behavior than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:37 PM
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Nah, he's just a bitter man still in the anger phase. Don't think he's very disturbed actually, and is probably living a normal life (apart from romantic rejection) and is a perfectly functioning person in adult life, goes to job, etc. This schadenfreude is probably his way of coping with the brutal reality of alpha fucks/beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 10:09 PM
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I have a minor disagreement with you though, it really seems like they enjoy ripping on non-traditional women more than anything (blue haired man jawed feminist career women are deeply loathed). It's simply because they aren't hot. I think TRP (and to be honest, most men) will speak highly of attractive women, and mock (either subtly, or in the case of TRP overtly) unattractive women. The blue/red haired, man jawed, feminist career woman is the walking example of that. If she was a skinny, blond…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 10:08 PM
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It's the female equivalent of don't stick your dick in crazy. I mean, most guys are shallow and will still chase and go after them cause they're hot. The same way, most women are shallow and will go out with rich/powerful/high status men cause they find that attractive, even though those men might harrass/not respect boundaries. We're all just apes and it's all biology and raw physical attraction in the end. It's the ugly reality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 02:30 PM
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Why? What do they do? Just take a look at /r/GirlsMirin
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:08 PM
1

Dunno man, I think Dawkins is pretty badass, even if his fans are not.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/17 12:03 PM
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It's because it has an excess of engineers and scientists who haven't had much experience with dating and relationships. Go to any random thread on relationships, you'll probably find a nerdy engineer (probably Indian) guy sell the bluepill fantasy of egalitarianism, treat her like a queen, etc.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/17 08:51 PM
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If it's not obvious by now, you should have realized that quora is the hivemind of beta males. Full of nerdy, feminist, engineers and scientists. Not that it's a bad thing in itself, but they don't have a clue how reality works in sex and dating.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/17 08:48 PM
3

+1 for agree and amplify. It's magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 09:35 PM
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How to agree and amplify when flirting. I think it's the major reason I've been able to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 09:32 PM
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Sure, but even if luck gives you statistical variations, consciously changing and affecting the odds will certainly help you long term and change the base line when meeting and dating many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 09:33 PM
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I know. Best of luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 08:05 PM
1

Or you can get rich. Money is the answer to a lot of life's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:51 PM
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Fifthed. Gotta be him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 09:45 PM
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As a RP leaning guy, I agree with the OP. I think she hits the nail on the head here. And, lots of rich successful men do go for poor hot women. That's why you see rich and successful male athletes date and marry waitresses, but hardly see female athletes marry a poor hot guy. But, it's contingent on the fact that you are rich, as a man. Take an average woman, and the average man, and hypergamy benefits the woman. As always, it's only the select few men near the top that enjoy the advantage of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 05:11 PM
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However, don't come to PPD complaining about AWALT and basic bitches if he purposely picks women he knows aren't for him. AWALT my friend, AWALT ;) All women and men, on a population level, are attracted to similar physical characteristics and behavioral traits. It's the inevitable consequence of sexual dimorphism via evolution and natural selection. Statistically speaking, averaged over a large enough sample size, women are more attracted to money, status, dominance and physique; while men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 07:41 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:18 PM
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It's almost always totally worth it, just for the better access to sex and relationships. One of them most important things TRP tells you is that personality is malleable, and is most often the outcome of your upbringing. Instead of "being yourself" and remaining unattractive, it's much better to adapt onself and and improve to become more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:16 PM
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Again, I disagree. I think the anger and garbage does not overshadow the main message. Besides, other places do not give as direct and impactful advice as TRP for fear of being politically incorrect. For example on TRP, you get great advice on examples on how to handle shit tests, about the reality of AF/BB, the dynamics that underlie the sexual marketplace, the importance of being dominant as a man, importance of kino/escalation, all stuff that's taboo in most other places (with few exceptions)…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:13 PM
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I disagree with you. TRP is a fantastic way to make men (i) understand the reality that drives sexual attraction and dating. (ii) realize the importance of evolutionary biology in shaping what set of traits are attractive on a population level scale (iii) Given this reality, adapt onself to maximize the chance of success (i.e. hitting the gym, being direct, learning how to deal with shit tests, not being too friendly, how to properly show interest and escalate, avoid common pitfalls in dating fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 04:56 PM
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Why should a man have to constantly do all the legwork? Thats so 2016 Because of evolutionary biology, natural selection and chemical/hormonal differences between the genders. No amount of "teaching" is going to change the fact that Men will ALWAYS be expected to do the legwork. Basically, it boils down to the fact that sperm is cheap, eggs are valuable. It's the reality of how the world works. Instead of teaching women, the best thing men can do is understand how reality works (TRP) and adapt a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 04:52 PM
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Yeah, but it's because you're spoilt for choices. Out of 10 guys chasing you, sure you may not get the alpha you want. But, there's 9 other guys still chasing you and putting all the effort. For a guy, there's usually nothing, and he has to put all the effort. It's still so much easier for it to "just happen" for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 10:34 PM
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True it takes a little bit of work, but waaaaay less work than the average guy! That's my point, women have it ridiculously easy in online dating compared to the man of equivalent attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 02:23 PM
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Nah, as long as you aren't fat, online dating is really easy for women. Just put up any of the typical photos nice selfie that shows both your face and body, so guys know you're fit (avoid the face closeup and the myspace angle at all costs) typical outdoorsy hiking/rock climbing etc pic to show your sporty side typical group photo on a girls night out surrounded by girls of equal or worse attractiveness (don't take a pic with a hotter girl) one showing sufficient skin (bikini, could be the outd…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 02:15 PM
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A hot guy messaging her is still just "happen". The guy still has to put all the legwork, send a 100 messages, initiate, etc etc. A woman just has to choose the hot attractive guy and show up and be there and follow his lead. It's much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 02:00 PM
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True. The counterpart to this is, men don't like to think about all the other men she slept with readily, just him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 01:59 PM
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Conservative too. Like them rejecting the evidence underlying climate change, or their conviction about Christianity (even smart conservatives like Jordan Peterson). It's part of human nature I think, rejecting cold-hard reality and objective scientific evidence to suit your political bias and comforting beliefs that soothe your existential fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 03:36 PM
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Fair enough, psychologist then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 03:35 PM
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It's Simon Baron-Cohen. He's an excellent article from Jonathan Haidt (a scientist I admire a lot) on a meta analyses of gender differences in math and the sciences, with an emphasis on the distinction between ability and interest. 1) https://heterodoxacademy.org/2017/08/10/the-google-memo-what-does-the-research-say-about-gender-differences/ 2) https://heterodoxacademy.org/2017/08/25/the-most-authoritative-review-paper-on-gender-differences/ - This one is great, it's a summary of a highly influe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 12:13 AM
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Curious, but do you have any empirical statistical data on this phenomenon? Not that I don't believe you! It sounds very plausible, but since you seem to be the expert here on the lesbian breakup rates, thought I'd ask if you're familiar with any studies, etc. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 07:28 PM
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All my one-night stands was via Coffee meets bagel. Also met my ex-girlfriend through CMB, so I totally recommend that. I've also had some limited success with Bumble. I think the advantage with coffee meets bagel is that it limits the supply (used to be 1 bagel a day, now 25 a day). So, there's more incentive for attractive women to engage. Similarly, bumble also forces the women to message first. I think any app that artificially regulates the dating market, by limiting the supply or forcing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 11:49 AM
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Notice from the video the girl is Indian as well. Shows how universal certain types of behavior is across cultures.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/17 01:11 PM
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A good argument involves me listening to the other side, but in all reality I'm not that open to having my views changed. That's pretty unscientific of you ;) If the evidence is clear, shouldn't we be willing to change our views? But in all seriousness, you're probably one of the BP'ers I actually respect a lot, and challenges my RP beliefs the most, as you usually use well sourced data to argue your points. Stuff like that adds value to this sub. More generally, I like this sub because I use it…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 07:28 PM
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You can't "fix" dating. Sexual dimorphism in mating strategies is an inevitable consequence of evolution and natural selection. Statistically speaking, men are always going to be the chasers, and women are always going to be the gatekeepers for sex. The only way to approach it, is to understand how reality and the dating game works, and what traits are objectively considered attractive in each gender. Then, given that reality, adapt yourself best to maximize your probability of success in the da…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:22 PM
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The point is to show what the scientific evidence clearly establishes. Are you just plainly rejecting scientific evidence when it doesn't fit your worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 10:39 PM
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There's no porn fantasy here. Just that: 1) Human beings really like to have sex. We've evolved for this. 2) It's insanely easy for the average woman to have sex compared to the average man. 3) Therefore, average men have to put in a great deal of time and effort if they want to fuck a woman of equal attractiveness. That's it really. To the OP: This is the reason I'm not RP anymore. I started doing it and it worked, then I noticed that women put SO little effort into developing themselves and I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 03:13 PM
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What I was saying is that the sub itself would look very different if they stopped comparing men and women This is what I don't understand. I mean, a large part of the TRP sub is about pointing out the very real differences between men and women in dating. So, of course it will look different if they stopped comparing? It's like saying a sub on comparative religion will look different if they stopped comparing religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 05:09 PM
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The fact is that a lot of TRP's descriptions of reality (as they see it) are expressed in the form of comparisons between men and women. That's not a bad thing, it's a perfectly fine way to make a point, but it is true that TRP would look very different if they were no longer allowed to make those comparisons. TRP at it's core is indeed about recognizing that these comparisons and verifiable differences between the genders in dating exist. I mean, the sun has always been bigger than the earth, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 05:00 PM
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It's less [gender comparison] and more [stating reality]. The reality is that, like in all other animals, there are clear differences in dating and mate selection depending on gender. For example, it's pretty much a fact that the average woman has a much easier time obtaining sex. Ignoring this biological reality and similar differences in dating, and instead pretending there's some egalitarian fantasy, will not make TRP go away. That's my point; I mean, you can call it what you want, but realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 04:47 PM
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No, I think TRP will always exist as along as the average man struggles to get laid, while average women of equivalent attractiveness get get laid easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 04:10 PM
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Nah, because she's not really left-wing. Both she and her husband are really pro-corporate elitists. The Clintons have always been about massive deregulation and are largely anti-working class (pro NAFTA, deregulating banks, telecom, remember enron?). The democrats and the left should be a party of the working class people; instead they've turned into surrogates of Wall Street. They'd actually make pretty good republicans. Thomas Frank really nails all this in his book 'Listen Liberal', which I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 07:00 PM
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Nah, I disagree. I'm a left wing liberal, but lean pretty hard towards TRP. The Red Pill is largely based on accepting the cold heart reality that evolution and natural selection largely dictates what traits are objectively attractive, and gives rise to fairly universal patterns of behavior in mate selection in humans (like AF/BB, etc). It's about understanding this reality, instead of the comforting blue pill "special snowflake" fantasy that is widely prevalent in society. The core tenets of TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 03:51 PM
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Holy shit. There's no way your're still an incel, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:53 AM
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Curious, but what do you mean by preparing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 02:25 PM
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I think it's a vicious cycle. These men are usually unattractive, short and/or not masculine (notice the overweight, 5'5", asian male description in the OP, no coincidence). So, this is the important point; they slip through the net because they are completely ignored by women growing up. No woman is willing to engage with them on a physical/romantic level. In contrast, even most fat/unattractive women usually can reliably get physical affection, but the men are just ignored and alone. You do se…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 06:30 PM
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Well dang, that's pretty damning... I can't believe someone can be that illiberal, ignorant of reality and brain washed. It truly is a shining example of the regressive left mindset. If someone seriously believes that following Sharia Law is feminist, then one has to take their posts with way more skepticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 07:17 PM
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This is the type of quality comment that this sub needs, backed by statistics and evidence. Thanks for the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 05:56 PM
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Because usually he isn't attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 02:10 PM
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No complaints or disagreement from me. #2 is definitely way hotter and more attractive, just that #3 is no slouch either... she's still pretty hot, and I'd totally hit on her. It's only #1 who I'd swipe left to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 07:01 PM
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Guys have approached me 5 times this year ... That's kind of my point: women get sexual attention when they are looking for it. Well there we have it, glad we completely agree. That's my point too. i.e. the equivalent is not true for average men; they struggle to get sexual attention when they are looking for it. Ergo, the average woman has it much easier in dating than the average man. Now it's true the average woman isn't beating away men with a stick like a hot woman, but her scenario is stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 06:45 PM
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Serious question, but do you make yourself approachable? I fail to understand how a non fat woman sitting in bar doesn't get approached. For example, have you tried, sit by yourself (not in a group of chatty girls) when a guy approaches and makes small convo, not shut him off immediately dress the right way (as in as cheesy as it sounds, things like red dress, short skirt, etc etc are give aways). Because otherwise I find it impossible to believe. Are you insinuating that literally ZERO guys hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 05:31 PM
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All three girls will get cold approached and matches on tinder. Obv 2 and 3 will do way way better than 1. But, woman 1 will definitely get her fair share of guys hit on her if she sits by herself in a bar, and she'll find dating much easier than an average guy. For women, it's incredibly easy to get laid with average/attractive men. Takes almost no effort, they just don't have to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:05 AM
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What do you mean? They'd all get attention easy. And between 2 and 3 it's a toss up. 2's hotter sure, but 3 is extremely hot too AND fit. She definitely squats.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 02:55 AM
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Yeah okay maybe you're right. Would need to average over more pics though. Also the tattoos are a big red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 02:53 AM
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Women 2 and 3, they're both totally hot, and incredibly so, easily both 10s. Woman 1, I'd swipe left, I'd put her at a 5 or 6 at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 02:15 AM
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Ok so you recognize the "best deal" under redpill thinking for women would be the gold digger who convinces hubby not to get a prenup and then cheats on him with the garden boy. First of all, I'm not sure that would be the best deal for women. I think the absolute best deal would be if she can get the good-looking, athletic, rich, succesful Alpha to commit to her (and her alone), when young, and raise a family together with him. But such men are in high demand, so women obviously struggle to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 03:52 AM
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The problem is, there is no solution to "life isn't fair". In fact, life in general, and dating in particular, is never going to be fair for some people (e.g. the average beta man, or the old/fat/unattractive woman), and I think the superficiality of this truth is what upsets most people & especially women. It runs counter to their ideas of equality, fairness, justice and romance. As in, they have a romantic ideal of what love is, and how it magically "just happens" (because generally speaking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 10:19 PM
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Yup, life's unfair and so both men and women try to maximize their strategy for happiness in dating and relationships, be recognizing this difference between the genders. Welcome to theredpill way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 09:52 PM
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They are both equally important. If anything, the gym more so, because that is in your control. Your career often is not.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/16 05:31 PM
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We laugh at first, but what has happened to society? It makes me depressed, esp when the people in power buy into this bullshit. Hard to remain stoic and indifferent in the face of this ever growing absurdity. This is not the type of authoritarian PC horror world I want to raise my kids in. Can only hope nonsense like this changes soon.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/16 05:28 PM
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You have experience as a woman to know the emotions involved and how they affects us? Men go through those emotions too, and still have to do all the chasing, etc. You have experience as a man to know the emotions involved and how they affects us? Two can play this game. You really think all women have to do is show up and not fall asleep? Do you routinely date this type of woman? I agree it's more than just showing up and fall asleep, but my point is that they have to put nowhere near the effor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:46 AM
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Sigh ... this is a classic example of how men and women are fundamentally different and see the world differently. You're really not getting it. I do get it. I totally get it. I do empathize to an extent about the slut/stud double standard. But, then again, I could level the same accusation at you. There's a fundamental difference in how dating, sex and relationship works between the average man and the average woman that I think you refuse to accept. It is not an advantage to start to develop i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:01 AM
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It's not a question of justice or morality, but one of practicality. It's much easier for an average woman to have sex than an average man. That's just the reality. Since sex is fun, and a huge part of dating and relstionships, I'd say that's a pretty big advantage the average woman has.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 01:53 AM
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Yes, but the thing is, one of them had sex and the other didn't. That's the fundamental difference right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 01:37 AM
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This is pretty interesting. I'm fairly RP, and in my BP days, one of the biggest things that annoyed me was the percieved "unfairness" in effort (I know better now, lol). I was quite (and still am) monogamous, and sunk a lot of time and effort chasing and showing interest in a single woman. In contrast, those women had tons of options and didn't have to put as much effort. So the combination of the percieved "unfairness" and figuring how unselective she was was an instant turn off. I just couldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 02:50 PM
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Perhaps not from the very hot guys she pines for, but I'd bet money she'll get tons of attention from ordinary men who're in her league. As a woman, all it takes is to get attention is to not be fat, and have patience and putting yourself out there so you can be approached. For example, she just has to dress up, go to a bar, and wait. That's it, that's all the magic there is. She doesn't need to approach, initiate, make the clever/witty jokes, know when to escalate and when to back off, etc. etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 05:42 AM
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The obvious answer is fat, or big facial deformities, and the like. Usually, the only women who're ignored by men are really fat, out of shape and unattractive. Even if her personality is very shy, introverted, as long as she's average/skinny, some guy out there is going to hit on her and ask her out. It's much harder to be a female omega than a male omega.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 04:55 AM
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But if you actually like your current partner and didn't really like your last partner, my earlier point stands. Ka-ching! We have a winner! The key point to take away for guys lurking here is exemplified in this exchange: i.e., women will readily have sex with you the more muscular you are, even if they don't actually like you that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 10:10 PM
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to be pedantic, humans and apes, gorillas & chimpanzees all evolved from a common ancestor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:07 AM
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I did in my very first post. Here it is again. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/men-and-women-cant-be-just-friends/ Link to actual study Choice quotes: (emphasis mine) The results suggest large gender differences in how men and women experience opposite-sex friendships. Men were much more attracted to their female friends than vice versa. Men were also more likely than women to think that their opposite-sex friends were attracted to them—a clearly misguided belief. In fact, men’s estima…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 08:55 PM
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How do you think bisexual people make friends? They're attracted to people of both genders. Yes, but TRP doesn't describe their attraction, cause they are a statistical minority in an evolutionary sense. Given that TRP is about understanding that our desires were shaped largely by evolution and natural selection, it mainly applies to heterosexual relationships (which has resulted in biological reproduction). How bisexual attraction, gay/lesbian attraction, were selected for are all fascinating q…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 06:07 AM
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Okay fair enough. I would guess the both of you are the exception and not the statistical norm. Good to see such things exist though. But, I still think the two of you'll end up sleeping at some point in the future though (maybe because I'm stubbornly convinced men and women can't be just friends ;) Maybe he's the one and you'll realize some day, or maybe look back with regret when older for not having done so .... or maybe not and I'm wrong & you'll both be married to other people & simply rema…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 05:53 AM
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Because if you sleep with her and it doesn't work out, you miss out on all of the other cool aspects of spending time with her re: common interests. But, there are plenty of guy friends for that, and women usually aren't worth that hassle. Seriously, most of my male friends are hot but they're too cool to just sleep with Sure, but you're a woman, most probably an attractive one, given that hot guys are friends with you (noticed how they don't usually tend to be friends with ugly women?). So of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 05:26 AM
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On the contrary, the burden of proof is on you. Human beings have evolved over hundreds of thousands of years, and our cues of what we find attractive has been tremendously shaped by evolution and natural selection. Given that in most of our evolutionary history, we've existed in hunter-gatherer societies, the default position would be that a large part of desire is part of biology. How would you substaintiate your claims about a blank slate? It's been widely disregarded in modern scientific cir…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:57 AM
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Female friendships are vastly different from male friendships. Men are usually much more attracted to their female friends than vice versa. For example, here's a study covered by Scientific American on this phenomenon So, if we're both single, and we share common interests and she's attractive, then why would I want to be merely friends when I could potentially sleep with her? Basically, the only female friends I have are: Women already in relationships, married, best friend's GF, otherwise off …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:49 AM
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This is genius, all terrific advice and examples. Thanks.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/16 01:23 AM
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I'd add The Stranger and The Fall by Albert Camus.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/16 11:11 PM
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I think the platitude and advice "just be yourself" is very good, but I think it is just taken out of context by people and it has lost a lot of it's meaning. Hey, I wanted to especially reply to this, because of how utterly disastrous and damaging this advice can be, despite its good intentions. The thing is, "be yourself" is TERRIBLE advice, particularly if you're not conventionally attractive, and want to be more attractive to women. For example, when I was young, I was very social, used to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 02:21 AM
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Men need to lift because being toned & muscular is attractive. He could be a marathon runner and skinny, but unless he lifts and has some definition, he usually won't be considered attractive. In contrast, women only need to stay skinny to be attractive. It's a combination of eating less and any exercise. Whether it's Cardio, squats, weights, etc. doesn't matter as long as she's not fat. No real guy is going to mock any woman for any exercise. Yes, I agree with you that men and women are fundame…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 05:56 PM
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Was she a russian chick called Anna by any chance? Dated a girl once who fit this exact profile.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 01:19 PM
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You're almost there. all I'm saying is that I wont hate on then for doing something I'd probably be doing if I magically woke up with a vagina tomorrow. Yes, exactly, don't hate on them at all. It's our fundamental human nature. But instead, understand that reality. i.e: Independent of the wants & needs of the genders, the reality is that obtaining casual sex is MUCH MUCH easier and requires way less effort for the average woman. Therefore, most women, including most average women, typically hav…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 10:47 PM
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Since you wrote this in good faith, I want to point out why you are well-intentioned but totally and utterly wrong. Yes, this might be more middle-ground, but your thinking of "WE DO ALL THE WORK THEY DO NOTHING!" is completely wrong and weak minded. For example: do you realize "just happens" is work as well? How did it just happen? You allowed that person to seduce you. Were you right in this? Was there a better alternative? Theres endless alternatives. Also, can you even keep this one around? …
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 08:10 PM
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I love all the concepts they've come up with. AF/BB is probably the most interesting. I can find little to fault with any of their observations, although in their conclusions, they seem blind to the fact that most of them are based in solipsism, the very thing they despise. I'm curious, could you elaborate on what you mean by solipsism in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 03:18 PM
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I think it is necessary in third-world countries like India and in middle eastern countries like Saudi Arabia. Places where many women do not have the basic rights of self-determination, education and face discrimination in employment, what dress they are allowed to wear, needing male escorts, etc. In the developed world, I think we need egalitarianism and empathy towards individuals, rather than a blanket ideology like modern feminism, which although originally had noble intentions, has somehow…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 08:15 PM
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Queen's gambit as white and Sicilian Najdorf as black. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:33 PM
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Curious, but what's your take on basic income? I don't like the idea of people getting paid for nothing, it encourages laziness and hedonism. However, I see no other way to address the imminent automation of jobs (not just low-skill), when machine learning algorithims explode in the next decade. How do we as men prepare for this and the societal impacts that it will have?
/r/TheRedPill26/04/16 01:03 PM
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Curious, but what rationale do you use to reject the null hypothesis? i.e, that these things, like almost every aspect of human behavior as per E.O. Wilson's famous book, are a direct consequence of biological adaptations in mate selection that have been shaped by natural selection and NOT an independent decision as a result of "maturing", "cultural choices", "growing up". Or rather, when you say, For example, women go after different kinds of men as they age. It's just about maturing and growin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 01:31 AM
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Haha, it's cute you're upset and still in the anger phase. Dude, are you Indian by any chance? As a fellow Indian, I can guarantee you the rabbit hole goes deep and reality isn't the egalitarian fantasy you think it is. The first step towards being successful, is to accept the cold hard reality behind attraction and dating. Once you start seeing the evidence, and understand how things really work, then you'll start having more success.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:27 PM
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Why insist on making yourself a fool thirstily scavenging for the white girls white guys don't want instead of just getting an indian girl? Do you really have such a low opinion of your own kind's attractiveness? No, it's not a question of attractiveness, but for two reasons: (i) Mainly because I don't associate with any of the culture of Indian girls. For example, I'm not even remotely religious, politically lean moderate/liberal, don't speak Hindi (the most popular language in India), don't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:16 PM
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Statistically you're right, but ironically, it's now an RPer like me saying NAMALT ;) I completely agree the concern about values is legitimate, and as an Indian man, I face the same pre-conception initially from most American women I go on dates with. I think the only stable solution is keep playing the numbers game, while respecting individual choices. There's enough American women out there who realize there are a handful of non-european men who indeed share their values, to make the game wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:00 PM
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Statistically speaking, attractive features for men would include: height. 6'2"+ prominent jawline stubble/beard wide shoulders v-shaped torso deep-voice being atheltic/toned/rugged six-pack On top of that, there are cultural/racial factors. All other things being the same, again statistically speaking, you'll find via studies that women typically rate White/Cacuasian/European>Black>Latino>Persian/Arabian>>Asian/Indian in terms of attractiveness. The guy you linked to looks Indian, so while obje…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 03:51 PM
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Not that there's anything wrong with that. One of my heroes, the neuroscientist Oliver Sacks, was quite definitely a biker. I highly recommend his autobiography, 'On the move'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:20 PM
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And more importantly, only one is actually consistent with the evidence (at least in the Newtonian sense for moderately large, slowly moving objects)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 12:45 PM
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I'm RP, but I used to debate like crazy (and still do) with religious folk, flat earth deniers, conspiracy theorists, etc. It's very funny, because I think the BP mindset is a cult. They completely reject the scientific & empirical evidence about the reality of sexual attraction, refuse to accept the sexual dimorphism in behavior between the genders (AF/BB, hypergamy in women, etc.) , and instead push an ideology driven viewpoint. I think many BP'ers fundamentally lack empathy, and especially th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 12:56 PM
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No, it's not true. And no, terpers do not believe woman are sub-human. I just explained all this, and my reasons, in the long-post above. See, we can have this back & forth assertion game, but it's not going to lead anywhere, unless YOU provide a reasoning for your claims. If you're just asserting things as true, without providing evidence or reason, how is it possible to have a debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:39 PM
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Now you're just making ideology driven jibes & ad-homenims to push your ideology ("long disproven wacko beliefs", "superficial contact", "sub-human", or "occasional ONS"). All this is simply not true. It's factually incorrect, and shows you don't understand the core message of TRP, about understanding human sexual strategies, and how it's been shaped by biology, evolution and natural selection. There's more evidence supporting TRP beliefs on human nature in scientific journals, than BP beliefs. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:32 PM
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Yeah, but usually with low SMV men. Look at her ex husband. Whereas, fat ugly men, can still score attractive high SMV women with enough money & status (for example, Ted Cruz ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:29 PM
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I can kinda see where you're coming from, but it's FAR better to have a physical intimate relationship and be desired by attractive women (however superficial/shallow you think it may be), than to be undesired, rejected in relationships, and be told to "wait for right person/time" while getting no intimacy, and only to settle for older women. A lot of TRPers used to experience the latter, and their lives sucked. Thanks to TRP, they can now work towards getting what they want. Who gets to define …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:10 PM
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I dunno. A fat ugly guy can still definitely compensate with money, or status. There's still a way out for him. No amount of that is going to save a fat ugly woman, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 07:36 PM
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Interesting point about the politics. I agree that if your goal is to sleep with attractive women, don't appear to be too liberal. Paradoxically, this is especially true if you are a minority. Moving further to the right, has done wonders for my dating life, even though I live in a blue state. Funnily enough, it's actually the liberals and left-leaning women who're prejudiced and have no qualms "labeling" me because of my race/culture/identity, instead of trying to engage me as an individual and…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/16 07:33 PM
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Well, I totally disagree with you. Statistically speaking, women value dominance, assertiveness, money & status in men a lot. Men value youth, beauty, charm, passiveness, femininity, etc. much more. For the same physical appearance, the shy, passive, kind-hearted, emotional man is most certainly more likely to be "an incel" than a loud, aggressive, cocky, arrogant man. Basically, men and women are different and so are attracted to different traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 10:41 PM
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So, it's still a crap shoot for men or women. Absolutely true. But atleast the woman's had experience of relationships, dating and sex with attractive men (when they were younger). The guy (i.e, the shy passive guy) usually has nothing. He settles for less, and hasn't even had the fun experience the woman has. I think the equivalent of the shy, passive decent looking 30's guy isn't the passive young woman who was showered with attention in her 20s and now has to settle with a loser cause she doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 09:58 PM
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If I'm in a relationship? Yes. If I'm single, then only if she's married or in a relationship professional colleague I interact with at work introduces me to other hot friends of hers. Otherwise, nope. Why? Because, my time is valuable. When I'm single, and if she's attractive, then why settle with friendship when I could make a move? More importantly, my experience has been that single women (esp. attractive single women) do not generally make egalitarian friends. They expect much more from the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 12:51 AM
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Hmm, very fair and interesting point... Although, I'd still bet if you take the same fat woman who gets messages online, and look at guys hitting her up in real life, it will probably be way less than online. Online, when there's no judgement and social stigma, and the supply/demand market for sex is driven by thirsty desperate men, then a fat woman has a higher SMV in that context (compared to real life i.e.).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 06:39 AM
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Right idea, although needs a word of warning. Tinder (and online dating in general), massively inflates a woman's SMV, because of the supply/demand for sex and physical intimacy. Even fat women get plenty of messages on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 06:27 AM
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It's a fine balance. A healthy sex life with an attractive woman is an important part of life, and indeed one of the most important biological drives that evolution has bestowed upon us. Downplaying that aspect as carnal is denying our nature and what makes us human, something I ised to do alot when I was BP. Of course, we also have evolved a brain that allows us to make decisions independent of our primal drives. So it's a really fine balance. We need to accept the nature of "the chase" so to s…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/16 01:16 AM
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Yeah, but well we're guys, so it's easier for us to see this, cause we live through it. We're the ones who chase, initiate, get turned down, etc when pursuing a romantic relationship, so we have to rationally think about these things (shit-testing, maintaining frame, hitting the gym, cocky/arrogant responses, avoiding being an orbiter, etc to improve our success at attraction). But women usually don't have that incentive (and so tend to be BP). I have a strong suspicion that most women are bliss…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 03:20 PM
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I'm a fan of anything by /u/TheChemist158. She's BP as they come, but definitely makes me think, and consistently raises some extremely intelligent counter-points.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 02:14 PM
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I'm curious, what was the moment you switched from blue to red? Was it a slow realization, or did you read some single post and think "hey, this makes total sense all of a sudden"? I ask because it's very rare to see someone change their worldview, especially in such emotionally strong issues as this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 02:10 PM
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Hm, I wouldn't go that far. I do agree it's far far easier for women to get access to physical intimacy, but I'm sure there exist good looking women who're also virgins in their 20s. There can be numerous reasons: she might be super religious, or just shitty demographics (living in Saudi, for example), or home schooled & sheltered, or formerly fat (and so, doesn't have awareness yet of her hotness). But yes, typically speaking, the average woman has it much easier in dating than the average man,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 03:31 PM
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Less a manosphere concept, and more based on cold hard reality. Really, if a woman isn't fat, or has major facial/physical deformities, she's got it much easier in the dating game. I think even a hardcore BPer won't deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 07:00 AM
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Quick question, and feel free to ignore it if it's too personal, but are you fat/overweight? Ethinically white from the city/suburbs in the states? I find it hard to believe any average/skinny woman in the US is a "handhold-less kiss less virgin". All you have to do to get dates is not be fat, dress up, go to a bar and wait. You're guaranteed to have men hit on you. Just reject those who don't meet your standards until there's a hot enough guy and viola. It barely takes any effort compared to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 03:47 PM
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You guys can keep repeating this until the cows come home, but the truth is, you can't know this. Actually, we can know this, by looking at the experiences of trans people who've lived life as men and women, and also lesbians living undercover as men, e.g. Norah Vincent. The effect of testosterone on behavior is enormous. Another article on her, with some choice quotes (it's chock full of RP truths): "I really ran smack up against the difference between male and female sexuality. It's that femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 01:07 AM
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Or maybe she'll find a poor rich guy to marry as she hits it and live a reasonably comfortable life. Doesn't really matter, life isn't fair. Welcome to the anger/awareness phase, but I think you'll soon lose the vindictive pleasure. Once you accept this is how reality works, you'll get used to it and such things stop emotionally bothering you.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/16 01:36 PM
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You'll say UK is wrong for being against hate speech? Yes. Here's Christopher Hitchens explaining why. I like a discussion to be concise. There's no need to make 2387984 paragraphs or essays to say something that can be summed up in a sentence. I am not asking you to argue with me either. You can leave whenever you want. Fair enough. Just realize that if you think a complex issue can be summed up in a sentence, there's probably not much worth saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 10:48 PM
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So American laws are more sensible than other countries' laws? Certainly more sensible than Sharia law, for example. That's because the former is based on a set of universal principles (like freedom of speech & expression), while the latter are just assertions based on a religious text (kinda like the way you are debating). Look, I'll be happy to engage in a discussion on your question about the dangers of hate speech laws, but only if you make an effort. If you're just going to assert things wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 10:44 PM
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You didn't address any of the points I bought up, but are pushing your narrative. Which is okay, it's just not a discussion/debate. You're just asserting something as fact, and are not willing to justify with rational arguments. In that case, I'll just have to state I disagree with your assertions. Just because there are laws in certain countries, doesn't mean those laws are justified. You need to have an objective ethical framework to justify those laws. The USA has strong first amendment right…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 10:40 PM
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Not really. Who gets to define what hate speech is? Is it merely something insulting to women (ala the way current SJW regressive left impose censorship?). Is talking about women's strategy of AF/BB hate speech? The concept of the cock carousel? AWALT? What about a woman stating she's not attracted to Asian/Indian men, or a man who states a preference he's not attracted to black women? I guarantee that BP'ers will jump at the chance to label such things as hate-speech and attempt to censor any i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 10:34 PM
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Hey Thales, Serious suggestion here. Have you tried a regime of regular and consistent exercise? To be more specific, try this: 5k run 2x a week with a longer 10k run on the weekend. Set a goal as well, which gives you a concrete target and an objective measure of self-improvement as you near it. For example, <1 hr for 10k is easily achievable with practice. <50 mins if you're in decent shape, and <45 mins if you're up for a challenge. Then, also go to the gym and lift weights. The stronglifts 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 11:21 PM
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Yes. Always better the honest truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 09:17 PM
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But you aren't dating a rock, so there's also a response to each action. Which is my point basically; in any human interaction (including dating), there's an opportunity to learn about the other party. Personally, I think how do you learn of them on the same level we learn of oneself? Is impossible, because it's fundamentally impossible to learn of them at the same level. The best you can do is to construct a model of their values, thoughts, opinions, etc. the sum of which tries to best represen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 02:46 AM
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You can find a number of studies if you search on google scholar, or maybe even the okcupid blog post on statistical analysis of their data. But since you asked, here's one specific journal article that's been cited 150 times according to google (so it's probably credible) Compared to women, men are more likely to favor the assertive path over the passive path (e.g., Hitsch et al., 2010b). The behavior of a 43 year-old female online dater exemplifies the passive path: I don’t browse profiles. . …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 02:17 AM
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Except, to a large extent, it's based in an element of truth though (that's why it got 4000 upvotes + multiple golds). Basically, when compared to a man of equivalent attractiveness, women do just need to make themselves available, keep themselves attractive (i.e. not fat), and screen for the right man. Now, they do have a higher cost and risk of getting screwed over, but by and large the dating process is much easier for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 02:12 AM
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If an ability for unconditional love is about personality, don't you think, that education tells more about it, then looks. No, I don't think it does. Neither does looks either. But as a man, I know what I'm physically attracted to, which is very important for me, probably the most important factor. "Personality" can be and often is completely independent of education. In fact, some of the nicest, most empathetic and loving people I know have only a high school education.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 11:20 PM
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But how is a woman suppose to learn about who you are if not by your actions? By taking initiative in the dating process, engaging in conversation, showing empathy. I personally think if the average woman was more active in pursuing and dating the average man, a lot of this imbalance would be settled. But, that will never happen, because men and women interact fundamentally differently in social settings due to evolutionary biology. So you'll always have the dynamic so beautifully described in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 11:15 PM
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So you think men don't care about looks-type, economic independence and social status in women? Looks yes, but the rest, definitely not to the same extent. While of course there are individual exceptions, I think there are clear and distinct traits that are considered attractive in each gender if you look at the general statistics. By and large, women value social status and money much more than men. For example, It's very rare to see an educated woman (e.g. with a college degree) in a long-term…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 11:06 PM
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True, but it's not that crazy, and has a kernel of truth. Men usually actively put the effort into chasing, dating and maintaining attraction. i.e, they're the ones who have to plan activities, watch her response, know when to escalate, etc. It's more of a cause/effect thing. Statistically on average, the man is more proactive and the woman is more passive and responsive. So for the woman, romance is more magical and "just happens" as long as she's reasonably attractive. But for the man, he know…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:49 PM
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Certain minimum thresholds in physical appearance, economic independence and social status. The second being more important in LTRs. This is why when the male partner becomes unemployed, there's a much higher risk of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:39 PM
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There was an excellent post that was given multiple golds that captured the essence very succintly. https://np.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/3z8o75/why_dont_men_get_as_much_of_a_thrill_over/cykm7bm?context=3 The male romantic fantasy is an enduring and unconditional love that seems to defy this relationship of labor and reward. A man wants to be loved for who he is, not for what he does in order to be loved. ... But the male romantic fantasy is to be shown that the woman feels the same way and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:37 PM
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True. But then he might atleast get laid. Besides, better to grasp the harsh reality as it is, then live in some deluded fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 03:37 PM
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Yes, of course she's entitled to her opinion. But, based on the the other posts in this thread, she's most probably wrong with her opinion. It's also very amusing how she assumes and blames the man's SMV (despite statements to the contrary), instead of even entertaining the idea that gasp, the guy might have a point after all. It's also a very mild example of a technique called "gaslighting" (i.e, defined as "manipulating people into questioning their own perceptions"). That is, by dismissing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 05:07 AM
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No, that type of entitlement does not make someone shoot innocent people. Elliot Rodgers had mental issues, which probably needed medical treatment. But, every person who desires sex & human companionship should be given encouragement and those who earnestly try but fail, our empathy. As I said, this mocking mentality is exactly why such people flock to the redpill for self betterment, because irrespective of the morals, TRP gives advice that works and is effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 01:35 AM
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best for society if he remains FA. That's not very nice, I wouldn't wish that to my worst enemy. Every person deserves to find someone and be loved. That's one of the biggest reasons why such men flock to TRP, who actually offer them advice to get laid, instead of society which mocks losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:27 PM
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C'est la vie. It's better to understand and accept the harsh reality than live in some deluded comforting fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 09:26 PM
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Because they are statistical outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 08:19 PM
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Of course, but on average, there are number of studies that show how biology plays a huge role in our social interactions, with strong indications that it even supercedes environmental and cultural influences (via twin studies, etc.) Women do act on biology a lot. as do men. That's human nature, we're all slaves to our genes at the end of the day, although we can and should actively rebel against it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 04:54 PM
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I disagree, there a lot of studies that shows such behavior is nearly universal across cultures, and they suggest that these traits (i.e. those men and women are attracted to) is sexually dimorphic because it has been selected for by evolution. There's an excellent book by the respected biologist E.O. Wilson called 'On Human Nature' that goes into more detail that I highly recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 04:48 PM
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Not even close to the same extent. The opposite of dominant isn't a doormat but passive and accepting. For example, women statistically dont take the lead in organizing dates, taking initiative, asserting, etc. They are passive, feminine, emotional and rely heavily on looks. Men and women are attracted to different traits (although as always there are exceptions)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 04:23 PM
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Treating women as cabaple intelligent individuals acting in their self-interest indeed works. Treating women identically as you would men doesn't. There are fundamental biological differences between men and women, and therefore on average, each gender is attracted to certain traits that are sexually dimorphic. For example, this is why being dominant, assertive and confident as a man is so much more important than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 03:38 PM
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I wonder if the founders of this sub will print this and hang on the wall as an accomplishment. Of course not, because these are comics. I'd guess the founders of this sub aren't the target audience. Plenty of better literature to read than Marvel comics.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/16 02:53 AM
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White Knights never learn until they get burned
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 05:41 PM
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Not just him. I think you're being a little disingenuous on purpose just to stick to and push your narrative, while ignoring the actual objective facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 09:41 PM
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For white men I'm suspecting that they really don't have a huge racial preference and are probably not exclusively targeting Asian women. As the famous okcupid study showed, there's definitely a racial hierarchy in dating preferences, with Asian Men and Black Women being least preferred. Could be a number of reasons (cultural, nutrition, biological, sociological, etc.), but there's no denying the hard reality that those two groups have it demonstrably worse in the dating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:11 AM
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Really? I'd say it's quite the opposite. A 6 year old kid is a dependent for a reason...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 12:21 AM
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The technology is already here with Crispr-Cas9. And there is already a debate on whether it should be used to edit the genes of human embroys. Imagine a world where all parents can choose to design all their sons 6 ft+, and all their daughters to be healthy and attractive. Only the rich would be able to afford it, leading to an even bigger acceleration of social/economic stratification
/r/TheRedPill01/01/16 06:44 PM
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but does exaggerating those traits by being arrogant or feigning disinterest really make you more attractive? I don't think it's the right question you're asking. To answer your CMV question, the hypothesis is as follows: Most of our social and emotional behavior (including what traits we find attractive, e.g. height and size in men, youth in women, large hips, etc.) has been shaped by natural selection over hundreds of thousands of years driven by selecting these traits which maximizing the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:32 PM
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One of Bob Dylan's greatest hits, 'Like a Rolling Stone' is basically about a woman hitting the wall.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 10:25 PM
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Just repeating for emphasis: You got banned because you're a troll dummy. Glad the TRP mods are still doing a great job and banning clowns like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 06:49 PM
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they have a right to exist. They have a right to exist, but they do not have a right to not be offended. All religions are objectively incorrect in their claims (including Christianity and Islam), but the special poison with Islam is how it influences the legal/judicial system in many countries and violently censors all criticism. And that aggressive censorship is not just Muslim countries, but also in countries which are secular. However nuts the fundamental christians are, they typically don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 06:41 PM
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red pill garbage doesn't understand women in general only some or fictional, what works for one woman ain't the same for another. And I disagree. I think there are very definite general trends about human behavior that one can make. We aren't all special snowflakes like you think. This is because our emotions, desires and what we're attracted to has been shaped in someway by evolutionary biology and natural selection. If you're interested in a more academic read, a great book written by a well r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 11:37 PM
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Yes of course, but what you don't seem to realize is that, those situations are statistical outliers. If you look at the overall statistics and the majority of fat slobs/hot women interactions, they aren't going to end successfully. This is also a classic example of a Bluepill vs Redpill mindset. The former looks at very specific outliers as "proof" that RP is wrong, and recommends to a guy that he should "be yourself" in the hope you find that outlier. While RP tries to understand and observe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 10:36 PM
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That type being golddiggers. Statistically speaking, a hot girl isn't going to date a fat slob. So, lifting ALWAYS helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 08:05 PM
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Sarcasm aside, he's not wrong you know... A ripped Indian guy who can deadlift 315, will have a much easier time dating
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 07:06 AM
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Not sure if it's the same post, but here's a similar thread. The moment when she realizes the redpill truth: No matter how grounded you are, you get a skewed perspective of the world. I truly believed that men were genuinely nice to women as a matter of course. I believed that most people were nice and accommodating and liked people. This was because most of my friends were hot as well, and guys were falling all over themselves to help us, so this is all I knew. I simply didn't realize that some…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/15 09:37 PM
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Yes, absolutely, but probably not in the way you think. I'm an Indian guy living in the states, and I basically tend to avoid dating Indian women. Not because I think they're unattractive (I think many of them are totally hot), but because the dynamics involved are totally different, which I don't think women really understand. For example, when I was in my early 20s, my experience was that Indian women tended to exclusively sleep with and date Caucasian and White men, while turning down Indian …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 09:22 PM
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who cares if it was easy or hard? It isn't a competition, everybody involved wins. It isn't a competition, everybody involved wins. I disagree. What do you mean by "win" in this context? If most of the average women exclusively sleep short term with hot guys, and then "settle" for the average guys when their looks begin to fade (while the average men typically have not had the same experience), is that a "win" for everybody involved, or is that just the optimal mating strategy for women? One of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:59 PM
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I agree, it's easier for a hot guy to be a stud than an ugly guy, but thats like 10 percent of guys. But for the average man/woman, it's much easier for the average woman to be a slut compared to the average man, and so everything in my earlier post is valid in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:16 PM
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It's okay to sleep around for whatever reason you want. The point is, as a woman it's easy. It requires no skill for a woman to sleep around other than being average/moderately good looking. She just has to sit and wait for a guy to hit on her, and pick one who passes her standards. Being a slut as a woman takes no effort, other than not being too fat. Yes, there might be cultural factors (conservative upbringing, religious reasons, personal ethics) that might turn her away from casual sex, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:38 PM
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Hi Milo, I'm a big fan. Thanks for taking the time to do this. My question is: Do you think there's a set of political/cultural ideas that are objectively more correct than others? In this context, what's your take on the immigration crisis in the context of cultural relativism and the idea that all cultural practices/ideas deserve equal respect?
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 08:33 PM
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Probably a bad thing. thalestoaristotle is the 40 year old virgin who made the recent stickied post in TiA bemoaning how unethical RP was, but doesn't realize how his social life might have greatly benefitted following RP advice. Not sure why ciswhitemalestrom thinks you guys might be similar though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 10:38 PM
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Disagree with the /r/theredpill. Calling out women on their bullshit isn't misogyny any more than criticizing TRP is misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 12:37 PM
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Such a thing already exists, something like /r/pussypassdenied
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:30 PM
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You literally just did exactly what I said. You're saying that men and women are different because they're different. No, not because we blindly assert that they are different, but because there's actual scientific evidence on sexual dimorphism in behavior, due to evolution and natural selection. You can look up any intro level anthropology text (a good one is 'On Human Nature' by E.O. Wilson). I'm sure, you'll obviously accept that men and women are fundamentally different in some specific phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:09 PM
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It's true we are all getting older every day, but hot women will happily sleep with older men as long as they get other things out of it (status, wealth, commitment, etc). For men on the other hand, it's predominantly based on looks. That's why mid 30s women who partied all their lives and have now lost their looks have it rough if they're looking for commitment. For example, I am now way more attractive to all women now that I'm hitting my 30s than I ever was in my early 20s, and it has less to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:58 AM
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Why does it make no sense? The girl gets emotional validation for free from her obiter, while knowing she's never going to fuck him. The poor sap thinks she might be interested in a relationship with him at some point. The girl gets what she wants for free (sex with the hot guys, and emotional validation from the orbiters), while the guys situation is indeed totally analogous to a sexual eunuch; he gives away validation for free while getting nothing he wants in return. Actually makes complete s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 12:14 AM
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The brutal fact of the matter is that women are programmed to want and NEED good hard fuckings from dominant men. I'm a RPer and I would strongly disagree with that. There are plenty of lesbians who are actively disgusted by the idea of sex with other men (just like most straight men are disgusted by the idea of sex with other men). What you have to realize is that our personality and behavior is a direct consequence of evolutionary biology and natural selection. In every population, you'll alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 06:52 PM
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Nah, it's contextual, no point flogging a dead horse. Next time you dispute a specific redpill claim about human nature or instinct (like AF/BB or female hypergamy), ask for a source and you'll get tons
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 10:00 PM
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Sure, nice deflection, but they don't have peer-reviewed scientific studies published in various anthropological journals now do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 09:55 PM
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See that's where I disagree. So, do you agree with the other anthropological studies about the gender differences between men and women in what is considered attractive? About the idea that we are not special snowflakes and there are nearly universal trends in what men and women seek in a partner? You don't have to be domineering to be confident. You don't have to force other people to do what you want to be confident. It's not about "forcing" other people, but understanding and predicting women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 07:21 PM
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This single sentence crushes the whole foundation of TRP How so? On the contrary, TRP encourages men to be professionally succesful and confident. That's why the huge emphasis on personal self-development, concept of monk-mode, hitting the gym, having options, etc. In fact, it leads to the question of what do BP'ers mean by "confident"? Most BP'ers don't really address this, and conveniently side step. TRP goes into great detail and breaks down the nitty-gritty specific details on how to magical…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:35 PM
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Less misunderstood, and more correct about how reality works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:29 PM
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Yes, but there's biological differences which makes the genders differently predisposed to share this information... Crudely speaking, for women, there's a negative selection pressure if she goes around telling everyone she's casually slept with multiple men short-term, because this is going to reduce her chance of commitment and finding a mate who is willing to commit his resources and time to support her family and raising the kids. So, they're more prone to lying about N counts. For men, spre…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:19 PM
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This is very conclusive. I'm curious to hear what the BPers think of the studies and the article in the post above. Silence? Or do you continue to reject these well documented sociological facts as an outlier? Or do studies like these actually make you reconsider how reality works? Especially the last one by the professor of anthropology from Syracuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:16 PM
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A single FWB that you know about...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 05:46 PM
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I've seen her in person give a talk recently, which was really interesting, both the way she sells herself and her company Theranos. She knows just enough technical jargon to pitch her grand idea (i.e., low cost capillary/nanofluidic based blood diagnostics). But, there are tons of other startups AND major biotech labs trying the same idea (e.g., BD Microtainers) who run into major issues on sample contamination due to skin oils/secretions, lack of sufficient reproducibility due to the smaller s…
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 04:03 AM
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Self made yes, but also having very rich parents with lots of connections always helps.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 03:49 AM
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It's not actually the ability to commit violence, but showing that you can hold your own and protect her from the big bad world, via the TRP basics (lifting, dark triad, taking no shit). A good way to demonstrate value without the risk of physical harm is playing and associating with masculine sports, rugby for example
/r/TheRedPill19/10/15 02:22 AM
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One has to ask, where were these chicks when I was lonely in medical school or college? Some of them were in long-term relationships with other more socially available men with whom in didn't eventually work out. This is okay. The reality is that many other women were partying hard, putting zero effort while casually banging a bunch of hot guys in a string of short term relationships, and now that they're looks have faded they're all over the aging doctor. These are the ones to avoid like the pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 12:33 AM
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Yeah, so take what makes sense and ignore the rest which are obviously wrong. Nobody's right 100% of the time.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/15 04:12 PM
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Sailer's law of female journalism: "The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking." Whenever you read articles like this one, the first thing to do is to google the journalist to see what she looks like and her background. There are tons of red flags in this story that any sane man would spot from a mile away; bragging about 900+ matches on Tinder, …
/r/TheRedPill17/10/15 04:10 PM
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Those are just two extremes. Most scientists/inventors are pretty normal folk and usually have normal social lives. For every socially awkward autistic genius like Dirac or Newton, you also have the attractive, charismatic geniuses like Feynman and Heisenberg. And tons of "normal" geniuses who most people haven't heard of, like John Bardeen.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 09:54 PM
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Oh, I agree there. The whole left vs right is all just a distraction, different ways for different people to tell you how to live your life. The real divide is authoritarianism vs libertarianism.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 11:02 PM
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I think you need to get a better grip on what you consider "the left." NOBODY who is substantially knowledgeable about Dawkins' work is going to have so much as an awkward moment much less mental gymnastics about whether physical realities are a social construct. But, that's the problem, they're not substantially knowledgeable. A bunch of those in "the left", esp. hipsters, SJWs, etc. all once used to flock to Dawkins because they thought his anti-religion stance was exclusively against Christia…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 10:32 PM
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This is a very disingenuous claim, I'm surprised it's coming from someone usually as rigorous as you taiboworks. Obviously, there's a huge difference between straight up approaching a stranger and asking her for sex, vs. talking/socialising with her for a while and then asking her out for dinner/coffee date, etc. The guy the OP linked to was doing the latter, the one in your link is doing the former. So while irrelevant to the OP's question, it's still interesting, because doing the experiment i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 08:45 PM
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For what? Marriage? Now let's not be too silly. The correct is answer is neither for a LTR, but the 60+ slut for casual sex. A single mom always has complications and additional baggage because of the kids, it's never worth it.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 06:02 PM
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This is actually a classic example of AMALT, and most TRPers will happily agree with honesty that men predominantly value women's appearance a lot. i.e, while personality and intelligence all matter too, a woman's looks matters to a huge degree, almost dwarfing the other variables. In fact, looks matter to a huge degree in the statistical majority of most normal men, but TRPers are the ones who are openly honest about it even if it isn't politically correct. A woman could be as an intelligent an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 06:10 PM
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It's speaks to his attitude about casual sex as well. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing for either gender. If sex was purely something about attitude, the double standard wouldn't exist. But, due to evolutionary biological reasons, it's not, there are a lot of differences between the attitude of both genders. (i.e, women are much more discriminate about sex in general because of the huge 9 month cost of investment; so they tend to sleep casually with only higher status men)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:43 PM
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I don't know about judging his moral character, but it certainly reflects his skill in attracting women. Because, again statistically speaking, for a guy to have a higher partner count, it generally implies a number of positive/attractive skills. i.e, he's probably physically fit, confident enough to approach a lot, mature enough to shrug off rejections, has charisma and wit to be funny, intelligence to initiate and sustain a conversation, etc. This is because it takes skill and effort to succes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:26 PM
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Yes, but I think OP's point is that, objectively speaking, access to sex is much easier for women in general than men, which has a clear impact on social dynamics. So, while you might take sex seriously and prefer low count men, that's only one data point, and is an anectodal example which isn't what the OP is talking about. The claims that OP make are for the general population (i.e, a woman randomly picked from the average sample). Of course, individual preferences are different, but once you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:02 PM
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Stronger people don't need the support as much but I can absolutely guarantee that without that support many PhDs wouldn't finish. So in an indirect way it might be that she really did contribute to it, although I kinda expect to be downvoted. I did my PhD in a top 3 school in engineering. I agree it would have been easy to have someone to support you, but it's also absolutely possible to survive, and infact thrive, even if you don't. It's not a question of stronger/weaker, but your mindset and …
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 11:21 PM
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but quite often they are, and many people settle for their second or even fifth best. noble thought, but cold hard reality and sexual attraction doesn't care about fairness, justice or what people "deserve".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 01:58 PM
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Naivety, belief in the just world fallacy and ignorance of a deeper harsh truth? If happiness was a choice, you wouldn't have depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 12:52 AM
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This should be a fairly easy CMV, because the scientific consensus doesn't agree with your opinion. For example, from this study in the Journal of Molecular evolution, Abstract: The results of our SNP analyses can be reconciled with the expansion of male effective population sizes inferred from STR loci, and with mitochondrial evidence, by admitting that humans were essentially polygynous during much of their history. As a consequence, until recently only a few men may have contributed a large f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 04:52 AM
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No advice? Seriously? Have you even browsed any of the the threads in TRP? Or even just the ones stickied on the sidebar? It's chockful of detailed instructions. i.e, how to lift weights, how to dress better, how to improve social skills, recognize and deal with shit tests, value your time, agree and amplify, physically escalate, to get interesting hobbies, play a sport, to meditate, to go hiking, where to meet interesting women... There's tons and tons of threads that explain all this. I'm pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 02:01 AM
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Empathetic, friendly, non-confrontational, people-pleaser of moderate/average attractiveness, who freely give his time and attention away without explicitly demanding anything in return. Doesn't understand how to flirt. In particular, doesn't know/have experience in how to joke/tease in conversation. is naive and clueless on how to display potential romantic interest towards women (i.e, how to show interest through innuendo, dirty jokes, when to touch, tease, etc.) thinks that attraction is some…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 01:53 AM
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Most people do. TheWhispersofSpiders is pulling a classic BP debating argument, claiming that we're all special unique snowflakes and so it's futile to predict or generalize human behavior. This is demonstrably false. There are definitely wide-ranging commonalities in what features are important in attraction, because those traits have been selected for by evolution. It's pretty obvious looks is important for most people. So you're making a perfectly correct generalization, just ignore the speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 01:26 AM
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Winners and Losers are relative. A guy who's 3/10 and an incel actually getting sex thanks to TRP would count as a win. Doesn't matter if it's with an equivalent 3/10, for him that's better than nothing. I think you'll find most people immensely benefit from TRP because it's astonishingly accurate in describing the realities of male/female attraction. At the very least, self-improvement is definitely a "win" when compared to the alternate (which is do nothing and "just be yourself") An analogy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 01:22 AM
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Find meaning and happiness independent of other people. Learn a hobby, go running, go hiking, join a meetup, join a yoga class, join a knitting class, learn a new subject, read a good book, meet people to talk about that book, etc. The world is a pretty fantastic place and we've got a finite time to enjoy it before we die. Best we can do is accept the circumstances that fate has dealt, and try to live a fulfilling life within these constraints. Just remember, if you think you've got it bad, atle…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 09:27 PM
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Well, I do like my women intelligent. I have a PhD, and it would be nice to have a girlfriend with whom I can talk about similar interests. So all things being equal, I'd prefer to date the girl with the degree. But of course, all things aren't equal and the problem is three fold: (i) There are fewer women with a PhD in engineering and the sciences. (ii) Of these women, many aren't conventionally attractive (i.e, I'm simply not attracted to fat women) irrespective of how smart they are. That's l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 10:52 PM
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One thing I've found that helps a lot is meditation. Try joining a yoga class or some activity which involves regulating breathing, great way to beat the stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:52 PM
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Yeah, but that's life. Some men are also unattractive despite putting on muscle. Best one can do is accept and understand the circumstance and reality, and try to improve the best you can under those limitations. That's a noble way to live. No use trying to deny the biology and reality of attraction for some unattainable fantasy. Always improve as much as you can, and try to find the best option under those constraints.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:25 PM
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I sort of see your point. I'm talking about less attractive women who find it difficult to obtain commitment from a mentally stable, non delinquent guy. I think the best thing for those women is the same advice TRP gives to men, i.e. work on improving your SMV by exercising, losing weight, and finding out what traits appeal to the other gender. For men, it would be becoming more dominant, muscular, having interesting hobbies, becoming rich, being aloof, etc. For women, losing weight is the bigge…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:09 PM
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Hm, how is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:22 PM
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That would be a statistical outlier, and if she's willing to date and settle with low SMV men (i.e, in her league) she wouldn't have any issues at all. There are tons of thirsty, desperate FA men who would gladly get into a relationship with any woman who throws them attention. As I said, the problem with the N count is usally when an average woman casually sleeps out of her league, but then tries to settle for a relationship once her looks begin to fade and she can't get easy sex anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:20 PM
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Less attractive women are still having casual sex with men out of their league. The problem is that these women don't sleep in their league. While I agree they can't get relationships with them, even the fat, low SMV women can still get casual sex from an average-ish to 7+ SMV guy with minimal effort if he's drunk/horny enough. So, there's a clear gender imbalance in the casual sex marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:15 PM
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You need to understand that it's not the same for men and women and if you do apply that to your thinking. Exactly, everything you say is correct, but women also need to understand that it's not the same for women and men and apply it to their thinking as well. For example, for a women to be a slut is easy, it requires no effort. TRP doesn't make a moral judgement on her character. If she enjoys sex and only wants to sleep around, good for her, we hope she's happy. People are free to do what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:10 PM
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Yup, which is also great advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:07 PM
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You mock, but that's actually really solid advice. This fat acceptance movement is a scourge, classic example of "muh feelz before reals"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:46 PM
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Point is the landwhales don't need to. There are enough thirsty betas out there who give even the landwhales immediate validation and send out messages..
/r/TheRedPill09/09/15 01:15 PM
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Good question. Even if the story is hypothetical, the response and comments are real, and provide another example of the AF/BB dynamic.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 08:13 PM
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Tinder sure works for men wanting short term sexual engagement and nobody shames men for using Tinder, Craigslist, etc. Not BP, not your regular people, not even feminists. No. Tinder typically works for most women and and only the top ~ 20-30% of men. There are a number of threads on this, but the online dating marketplace is heavily biased so most average women have way more options and an easier time than equivalent men. TRP tells the average men how to improve himself so he can use tinder wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:48 PM
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Seeing examples of how reality works (repeatedly and like clockwork) is always the best way to get unplugged. Although, given the different subs it was posted in, I suspect it's a troll.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 07:44 PM
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This is where it goes against common morality ... trying to game the system. I totally disagree. Why? What is this "common morality" and why does internalizing the traits that allow short-term mating with willing women somehow going against common morality? How is it "gaming the system"? If men want something (i.e, short-term relationships), and adapt behavior that allow them to sucesfully attain that, why should it be shamed instead of deserving respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 05:22 PM
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Also, did you notice the instant switch to shaming when logical discussion fails?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:42 PM
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See, this is where we fundamentally disagree. Yes, there are variations due to perception, but we're not all special snowflakes and there are clear objective trends and generalizations in behavior you can make in humans. If you accept the ansatz that "Our personalities and behavior, including sexual attraction, have been shaped by evolutionary forces over hundreds of thousands of years", then it immediately follows that there are definite trends and rationalizations of personalities and behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:32 PM
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If these stories are made up, then it's not working, christ. Instead of listening to random stories and theories on the internet, the only true test of validity is the experimental approach. i.e, random strangers on the internet can claim anything. Sure, Chad may or may not have really fucked all those women in that field report, who cares? It's only when you experimentally test out some of the central tenets of TRP in your social interactions (i.e, recognizing and deflecting shit tests, physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:24 PM
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How the fuck do you know they are successful men outside Reddit? It doesn't fucking matter. Most men on TRP probably were once upon a time naturally nice, empathaic and kind towards women (and men too) but didn't realize that behavior is not by itself inherently attractive and automatically result in success in relationships. Then, they actually tried implementing what IllimitableMan, Archwinger and numerous others discuss on TRP in real life, and they see immediate results and better success wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:04 PM
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Again, my issue affects me and causes distress. Knowing that women in middle east are getting acid thrown in their face doesn't make me feel any better about my struggle I agree, but it puts it in perspective, and makes us less selfish, and more understanding and compassionate.You're not the only one struggling. We all do. There are literally millions of men and women who face similar struggle. Yes, you've got issues. Well, flash news: so do literally millions and millions of other people. Why d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 03:08 PM
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Why do you assume that I'm a white man? Maybe I'm a black man, or an asian man, or a latino man? In fact, how is the validity of my opinion in any way tied to my race? Shouldn't you be more interested in the the actual evidence instead of my race? In fact, this is actually the most racist thing you can do. What race I am is completely irrelevant to the objective claims I make. Do you see how silly your fixation with race is? Nobody is a special snowflake; everybody has their own unique set of pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 03:03 PM
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I'm sorry to tell you that nobody is special. When you grow up someday, you'll realize that. White women, black women, asian women, asian men, white men, black men, etc. It's all equally irrelevant in the end. Nobody's opinions are more special than others. Just remember that if you think you've got it tough, you're atleast not living in some middle-eastern hell where women get acid thrown on their faces for trying to date men ...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:57 PM
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Haha, it's a little sad how defensive you get. Nobody is discounting your experience, but you are not special either so it doesn't deserve extra special attention. Your experience is only one amongst a sea of different experiences. There are plenty of skinny black chicks who get tons of attention from all kinds of men. For whatever reason, you're not getting it and you want it. So, if you really want to improve, maybe try rationally looking at what is different in the way you behave compared to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:51 PM
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But I am so sick and tired of men who continue to discredit my personal experiences when they are a. NOT a woman b. NOT a black woman That's a silly argument. Do you mean that nobody can have a rational conversation using objective evidence about a minority unless they belong to that minority? How in the fuck would you know what its like for the average black woman if you are not one? Through objective statistics, studies and evidence. You have to understand that your (and mine) personal experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:47 PM
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Nah, many men (including me) find skinny black chicks insanely hot. In fact, thin and average women do have it easier than the average man. I do agree to a certain extent that statistically black women have it slightly harder than certain other races, but that's like complaining about having to choose between caviar and champagne. It's still much easier for black women than the average man of any race (and that's not to talk about asian men, who've got it the worst).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:04 PM
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I agree with the sentiment, but since is TRP and we're very good with facts, did Tigist Tufa really say all that and is the article accurately quoting her? (The only source I'm able to find is here) Or, is it just the author Clara Morris projecting her personal opinion and attributing it to Tigist Tufa? Btw, 4 hrs 49 mins is a terrible marathon time. To put it in perspective, Oprah Winfrey ran it in 4 hrs 30 mins. 2 hrs 23 mins is ridiculously impressive, I'd never hit that even with a lifetime …
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 05:05 PM
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and it's only the alpha guys who have this power. betas still don't get much from what I've seen. If there is one single thing that men should take away from this subreddit, it's "don't be a beta bucks". That is literally life-saving advice.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/15 09:07 PM
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How many people would actually support any of those? Wait, before going ahead and shifting into that line of discussion, do you now accept your previous assertion, and I quote Abortion is a gender issue, because it really only affects the health of one gender. Is not really correct, as per my last post?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:39 AM
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Haha, thanks I appreciate the honest reply. And it doesn't matter how a redpiller or anyone else rates you, cause you're in a happy relationship, which is more than can be said of most people. There are always outliers, and you might be one of them, but statistically you'll almost never see an intelligent, nerdy, skinny woman with a higher degree date a low SMV guy. They'll want someone equally qualified or better. That's just the way reality and human biology works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:24 AM
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Also, this wikipedia page has links to actual evidence, incase /u/itsalreadybeenthrown is still interested. Esp. the Rudman and Goodwin study.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:04 AM
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Abortion is a gender issue, because it really only affects the health of one gender. I agree that abortion certainly involves gender issues, but to call it only a gender issue and that it only affects the health of one gender is not right, because as the previous poster mentioned, at the heart of the issue is a debate of what human life is and when it begins, which is gender netural. The most obvious, immediate and pedantic counter-example is late term abortions. Clearly, terminating the life of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:00 AM
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Also, I don't mean to be rude or inquisitive so don't take this personally, but this happens all the time with personal examples that Blue Pillers give. Since you mention your boyfriend wouldn't be conventionally considered high SMV, how would you then rate your own attractiveness and SMV? (this is purely objective, and just to put your specific experience and comment into bigger picture context). To be more specific, are you skinny/average/overweight? 20s or 30s? Is your boyfriend taller than y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:52 AM
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I don't think it's conscious sexism, but a manifestation of the "women are wonderful" effect. I totally agree with the friendzone/FWB analogy though. In both cases, it's upto the individual who is not getting what he/she wants (i.e., sex or commitment) to take responsibility. but the double standard in how it's treated is clear as day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 02:44 AM
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How does she look? Is she fat? As long as she's even average looking and skinny, she'll definitely get guys hitting on her during commute, in the bookstore, at a coffee shop, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 06:24 PM
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That's okay, because we'll all hit the wall some day, and everyone dies alone at the end. Personally, I think the best we can do is to understand how reality works, have sensible fun when you're here & try being as honest as you can. That's the most anyone of us can do before we die
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:40 PM
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Don't worry. I'm sure she'll meet the next masculine guy who gives her attention and crazy hot sex, and she'll feel all better and so the cycle repeats. Until the wall that is. We all think we're these special individual snowflakes, but it's funny how predictable and superficial we really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:27 PM
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+/u/user_simulator /u/throwaway1643
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 04:14 PM
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I think it's because TRP generally applies to the statistical mean of the population +/- sigma (i.e, ~ 70% of the population). Here, the context of the discussion is straight, heterosexual women. So, when someone who is a statistical outlier (i.e, a bi, poly woman) uses their experiences, it's completely irrelevant to the point TRP tries to make, which explains the negative reaction. Not towards the opinion; it's absolutely ok to have any personal preference,it's just irrelevant to the current d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:07 PM
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I'm especially curious if this has altered your opinion and made you sympathize with TRP's modus operandi, given they have to deal with this reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 01:38 PM
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Personally, I think all these comments in this thread can be interpreted as examples of victim blaming, accusations of entitlement, and shaming the minority men, instead of facing up to the reality of interracial attraction. There was no where in your post you even implied that only white women were smart, and yet cue the accusatory comments. The fact is, even minority women in the states prefer white men to the exclusion of their own race, as the statistics clearly demonstrate. Many people will…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 06:53 PM
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Good question. There's the famous okcupid data that strongly suggests that this is infact true. i.e., it appears that the stats suggest that there are indeed more indian/south asian women sleeping with white guys than vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 05:11 PM
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Yeah, exactly, there's no victim here and if any it's entirely self-inflicted. There's no point blaming women for acting like this, just like there's no point blaming a spider for spinning silk.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 04:20 PM
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But, aren't the terms of the debate are dictated by the facts and the evidence, and not by the feels? When BPers find facts and how reality works offensive and upsetting, what's one to do? In my opinion, I'll go ahead and claim that most RP replies link to studies, evidence etc. to support their claims, while most BP replies (with a few notable exceptions) resort to a sarcastic, mocking tone and focus on outliers, while ignoring the linked studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 03:14 PM
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And I can claim with 100% certainty that most of us don't (with a few outliers who do). There's a difference between mocking incorrect ideas, and mocking and personal ad-hominem attacks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 03:13 PM
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I doubt that the Indian women that you are mentioning who have a history with dating white men have a personality similar to yours I highly doubt this. It's not a question of egalitarianism and matching personality, but one of biological attraction and the imbalance in access to sex/relationships. There's plenty of instances when the Indian guy is outgoing, liberal-minded, etc. but the fact is that women, even those from the same race, aren't attracted to that. In most colleges, you'll see plent…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 01:40 AM
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They say that society doesn't care about men , women are unempethetic creatures who never care about men, things will never change etc. I don't see how this mindset is either helpful or true . First of all, I think this is an example of more "feelz before realz".The fact is, it doesn't matter what mindset RPers have. What matters is how reality works. Once you understand this factual reality, you can either take self-responsibility, accept your circumstance and adapt to the truth, or you can was…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 05:04 PM
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What you don't realize is that the political spectrum has an ordinate in addition to the abscissa. Left wing vs right wing is only one axis in the spectrum. The more relevant orthogonal axis is libertarian vs authoritarian. I think you'll find most RedPillers, even if they lean left wing, also heavily lean libertarian. This is why you see the dislike towards compulsory diversity, equality by forced ideology (rather than equality of opportunity), third wave feminism, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 05:34 PM
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I agree with all this, with the single caveat that certain sets of practices are much more effective than others. i.e, one can decide not to use makeup and do whatever they want, but the reality and the fact that you will see from experience is that women with make up are generally more attractive. What you then do with that knowledge, and whether you decide to diet/wear make-up etc is upto you, I agree, but one shouldn't disregard how reality works and lie about it just to feel better. Always b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:37 PM
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This is a great post. Yeah, I think this is the saddest part. The main reason that most of the perennially single girls in my social circle remain that way is because they aren't "conventionally attractive" (i.e, they're mainly overweight or fat) and nobody explains this to them. The get fed a constant dose of "being themselves" and that men who judge them are superficial and shallow. These are the same girls who then complain about unrealistic beauty standards, etc., without realizing how biolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:32 PM
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Are men better than woman in what? Better at being masculine? Obviously Yes. Better at being feminine? Obviously No (although with some SJWs...)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:49 PM
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Maybe reality has a RP bias...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 11:06 PM
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No, I think you'll find people (& most men) do generally celebrate sexual women, for that particular aspect of their character (i.e, their short-term sexual availability). The conflict comes in when men will happily sleep with sexually open women, but refuse to commit to them. i.e., society (and men, mainly) negatively judge the long-term relationship value of sexually open women. I think at the heart of this difference of opinion between the genders is is two main factors: (i) First, there's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 12:45 AM
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cough pure math...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:34 PM
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Can't fault them for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:31 PM
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I've noticed this tactic a lot in this place. Basically post a snarky response, side-stepping the main point and harping on some semantic issue instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 11:48 PM
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Because TRP describes reality. Its like asking someone what they think is the origin of all the species? They could say evolution says by natural selection, And would you then get upset that they're a spokesman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:48 PM
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No, it's amoral, and your confusion is a classic example of the is-ought fallacy i.e, the entire sub is about describing the reality of attraction between men and women, and describing the way things are. It doesn't preach about what you should do with that information.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:00 PM
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I disagree. I think it was a very scientific answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:56 PM
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In what way? It seems exactly the opposite of what TRP would suggest. Can you be more specific what features of TRP you think say "if it feels good do it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:54 PM
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That seems like a perfectly fine request by women. So I repeat, what's your point? The point is, that sentiment only reveals a sad lack of understanding of how reality works. Men and women already are taught not to rape and that rape is bad. Everybody universally agrees that it's a bad thing. The reality is, rape is a crime of opportunity, and "telling" people not to rape isn't magically going to eradicate it. What you need is to understand what situational variables causes this to occur and try…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:54 PM
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Yeah I agree, of course people are free to have whatever sexual preference they want, but what's curious is that up until he got married he lived his entire life as a gay man (not bisexual, mind you). That's highly unusual. Incredible con-artists, and the way Pao was able to spin the media to portray her in a sympathetic light in her court case is remarkable.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/15 01:04 PM
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What's interesting is that before Pao married her husband (who's accused of civil fraud, and filed a racial discrimination lawsuit which he lost, similar to Pao's failed lawsuit), he was in an openly gay long-term relationship for 10 years. You can't make this stuff up.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/15 12:58 PM
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You can never know, but the beauty is that it doesn't matter. My favourite existentialist author, Albert Camus (you should read 'The Fall'), has a fantastic quote: Beauty is unbearable, drives us to despair, offering us for a minute the glimpse of an eternity that we should like to stretch out over the whole of time. Any "happiness" is only finite and ephemeral. All relationships, plates, girlfriends, etc. are temporary. One day, you will grow old, if you're lucky. Then, you will most probably s…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 11:01 PM
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If I didn't have you, someone else would do...
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 10:07 PM
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for example, knowing a certain woman and yourself are never destined to be together, or just not being wanted by a certain person? C'est la vie. Accept it, and move on. There'll always be another woman. What has been bothering me of late is that I can probably find a woman who fits the RP bill, and I can do the associated dance with a LTR, but I'm not sure it'll be a person with whom I have an intense feeling for That's just naive thinking and shows you're still plugged in. Not your fault though…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 09:52 PM
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Because people are superficial when young and despite the popular narrative, attraction is really mainly about looks. Both men and women are willing to put up with crazy, if the guy/girl is hot and the sex is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 03:38 PM
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White knighting is the classic example of the male hamster. They'll rationalize it away of course: e.g., "One day, she'll realize how awful those jerks are and how awesome & nice I am and finally have sex with me"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 03:35 PM
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... or because you put in a ton of effort to actually change all your habits and beliefs into that as your default, subconscious behavior. You act that way because it is inherent to you and/or brings you pleasure itself. I couldn't have better described TRP's approach to self improvement myself ;) What you said just there is fundamentally, in a nutshell, what TRP is about. Perhaps, but if that's why you're like that, and you have to consciously think about it, then women are liable to pick up on…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 10:21 PM
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I'm not sure what your point is. Both of those are genuine and yes of course they're influenced by their histories. My point is that, precisely because of environmental factors, there's really no such thing as a "genuine" personality. Knowledge of how reality works, and your environmental factors, will fundamentally alter your personalitity. This is exactly what /u/dakru alluded to in his post about no such things as a "one true personality". From the way the OP is writing, it seems clear to me …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 09:34 PM
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But, how do you think that person got that "genuine" personality? Obviously, it was hugely influenced by their environmental feedback (in addition to their innate genetics). For example, let's say there are 2 girls, both growing up in a big city like LA. Girl A is a a skinny blonde girl with big tits, and Girl B is a nerdy girl with acne, braces and a flat chest. Now, if you haven't met them in person, and want to build a model to predict their personality, it's going to be super easy. Girl A wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 09:20 PM
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What the fuck? They really can't fathom a woman sleeping around a bit in college then wanting to get married later THEN GO FUCKING DO IT THEMSELVES. First, everybody is selfish and hypocritical in dating, and want the best for themselves, such is life. Second, and more importantly, what you forget is that it's much much much much easier for women (even fat/slightly ugly women) to casually sleep around in college than men. To casually sleep around (unless the guy is extremely rich/attractive/insa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 02:54 AM
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But for those 30 years, atleast you're having fun with someone who you're attracted to and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 12:54 PM
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See, I think the point is that whole idea of a "safe space" is not possible in a debate, especially if one side is offended by the logic that the other side uses. Being offended is the price we pay for the exchange of ideas. I think you guys did a great job on moderating content by preventing circlejerking (i.e, by moderating the top level replies to CMV), and to prevent direct insults that add nothing to the discussion (i.e., like "you are an idiot"). But, I still worry that even suggesting RP …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:28 AM
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I know you mean well, and I hope the new mod policy works out, but I think that this will directly lead to reduced quality of content in PPD. (would love to be proved wrong though). Whenever you respect people's "right" to not be offended, it always ends in disaster. Authoritarianism, even with good intent, will never end well; and indeed such reasoning marks the exact moment in the slippery slope to SJW style "safe-spaces" where offending opinions (i.e, simply opinions and words) are censored. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:03 AM
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Honest question, but how do you decide what is a criticism of ideas, and what is an indirect criticism of a person? For a very general example, in a discussion, say someone says Person A: "blah blah happened to me the other day and how can he treat me that way, it's never happened before.", Person B: "That's because when you were younger, you were hotter and guys were willing to chase you, but now your looks have degraded with age, looks are extremely important to guys, and he has options now th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:17 PM
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I too would like to know why the OP went on a date with this guy when she already had a boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 03:39 PM
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More probable they picked it up in latin class. Do you really think your regular tumblrina would take an organic chemistry class over a humanity elective ;) ?
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 07:26 PM
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This is a terrific summary, and really the only required comment in the entire thread. Thank you for taking time to read the actual paper, and summarize the data. Another key point I'd like to add is that the TOTAL sample size is N=3298 in age group 20-29 and N=172 in age>50. And in this reduced sample size, the % of kids with autism disorder (AD) changes from 0.15% to 0.35% (which OP claims is a 66% increase). 0.15% to 0.35% doesn't seem a scary big number like 66% does it? And, how much of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 06:42 PM
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Actually, it's less to do with leftist vs rightist, and more to do with authoritarianism vs libertarianism. For example, I might think that the government has a critical role to play in providing welfare and social security to a section of the really poor, which is labelled a 'leftist' view, and 'conservatives' might disagree to various degrees. But I sure as hell think both me and the 'conservatives' will completely agree that the freedom of speech and freedom to offend should be protected at a…
/r/TheRedPill03/06/15 09:41 PM
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I agree, and not just reproductive needs but reproductive outcomes as well. That is, things like the long 9 months gestation period, etc. Because, our needs are a direct evolutionary outcome that have been shaped by these biological realities over billions of years. Just "switching" genders & behavior for the whole population can't happen without going back billions of years and altering evolution. And then, the labels will be switched but the behavior will still be identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 12:51 PM
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But I'm not sure if he should be here. Why shouldn't he be here? Dawkins is a scientist, so he values pursuit of the scientific truth and perceiving reality as it is. If those realities upsets the political sensitivities of feminists who claim misogyny, then that's too bad! We shouldn't change our pursuit of understanding reality just because certain people are offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 02:15 PM
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You're confused because you're listening to what people say, not on how they act. The hamster is a powerful thing. There's a reason we say AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:00 PM
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But whatever you do: don't bang married women. Make those bitches pay for their decisions. You aren't just fucking them. You are fucking their kids and the man who is doing his best even if it isn't always right. She deserves to have to live with her choice. Brutal story, but one important point Women have their own agency. If they don't want to fuck up their marriage, then they shouldn't be fucking around. Their marriage is not your responsibility. Whether you chose to be an asshole or walk awa…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/15 12:50 PM
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Much of the theory of The Red Pill is absurd and dehumanizing. It is a framework or lens that asks adherents to view me as a lesser being because of immutable characteristics rather than my achievements, personality, preferences, or choices But, people are predictable. If I know that someone was born in one of the southern states, loves Nascar, supports the army, goes to church every Sunday, is against gay marriage, then I can confidently predict they'll almost certainly vote republican. Yes, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 01:54 AM
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, Bobby will have all the women who have ever rejected him be single and pining at his feet. No no. Not those women who rejected him, but other, newer women. If he gets rejected, I totally agree he should move on, understand why, and improve his objective attractiveness and never look back. If someone rejects you just move on with your life. Why craft elaborate revenge fantasies that will only serve to disappoint you. I agree with moving on, but my first post wasn't ridiculous or crafting a fant…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 12:44 PM
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Isn't it ironic how in your revenge fantasy, plain Tina ends up with the billionaire? It's the same reason why 50 Shades of Grey is famous. For women like Tina, its always about 'me me me me'. It's always fuck around with the Chads when young, and wait for the Swedish billionaire they deserve when older. Thing is, life doesn't work that way! If her and Tina dated when young, got married and happily live together, good for them. It's the self-entitlement and hypocrisy that's the issue (i.e, fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 12:01 PM
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people change. Exactly right, but people usually don't change stochastically. The change is almost always forced by circumstances and environmental factors. i.e, for example (i) In this case, Tina has hit 30 years, her looks are fading, guys aren't giving her as much attention and her options are running out really fast. She's desperate to settle down with a semi-attractive guy with stability and good career prospects to raise kids asap. So, she now can't afford to sleep around if she's looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 10:23 PM
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Well, atleast make the ideal fantasy somewhat realistic! Instead of wanting women to take more responsibility and agency in the SMP, you might as well hope that she's attracted to personality, kindness and empathy instead of looks ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 09:33 PM
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there is one of the many places where me and TRP disagree and why I wont identify as a red piller. See, I agree whole-heartedly with what you say, but the reason TRP disagrees with you is not because your expectation is objectively wrong (in fact, it's perfectly reasonable and correct), but that reality doesn't work that way. Because of human nature and biology, women are not going to chase men because they are the gender that controls access to sex. Men desire sex more than women (and all relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 04:53 PM
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Hopefully he figures this shit out now, and it's not 8 more years.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/15 01:54 PM
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I am saying, "Men have the right to not find overweight women attractive. Women are not entitled to your affection, time, or love." Also, "Women have the right to not find short men attractive. Men are not entitled to their affection, time, or love." It goes back to my question; what exactly is entitlement or expectation, who decides that, and what's wrong with it in any case? If a man/woman spends a significant amount of time, money, energy and resources with someone with the expectation of a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 07:42 PM
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And I think you missed the point of my post, and IMO, your post is a classic example of the just-world fallacy. First, what's the line between entitlement and genuine desire and who gets to draw that? I think everyone is in fact entitled to dates/sex, and nobody should suffer the torture of loneliness. And if they do, they should strive to understand why and try fix it, instead of bitching. Also, I emphatically disagree that everyone automatically deserves respect. Respect is earned based on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 07:18 PM
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This, and the response to the Charlie Hebdo massacre (i.e., they were asking for it, poking a hornet, etc.) was the EXACT moment I stopped calling myself a liberal. It's delusional how those people refuse to accept reality and would rather live in their comforting fantasy world where everyone is always nice and gets along, and minorities are always oppressed and can do no evil.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/15 07:06 PM
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My problem comes in when people are treated as less-than because they're not found attractive I just want to be treated with respect, and I'll extend that same courtesy to others. Sadly, the reality is the the prejudice has much deeper roots in biology and human nature. For example, is it fair that short men suffer tremendous disadvantages in employment and the corporate world compared to taller men despite the same skill sets? There's a famous stat that >50 % of CEO's are 6ft+, despite only ~ 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 03:49 PM
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I'm an Indian guy, and TRP has immensely improved my dating life for the better, I can never thank it enough. Yes, everything else being equal race certainly is a factor, but it's not an excuse and it's not too difficult to overcome that if you have other shit together (maintain frame, keep fit, interesting hobbies, good job/degree, etc). If anything, it's now actually way easier for me to date outside my race (last 20+ girls I've gone out with were all white American girls). It's not that I hav…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/15 03:06 AM
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Lot's of text, but for starters the initial solution as always, and as cliché as it might sound, is: Cut all contact with her Hit the gym and lift weights (which you're already doing, great job!) Flirt with and hit on many other women, treat it like the silly game it is. This is important. Right now, you're too emotionally attached to this one girl, and you've built this fantasy of her as this perfect creature. This is totally fucking with your emotional state-of-mind. When you flirt with enough…
/r/TheRedPill01/05/15 04:46 PM
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None of that is read pill though and good life advice for any one. Well, if that's what you believe, then it's clear to me that you don't understand what TRP is. You should read some of the sidebar threads there, which go into self-improvement in more detail, and why you do it for yourself and not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 02:05 PM
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Right which is cause be cultural conditioning. If the lot of men are to improve men need to be able to emote. Men also need to find there validation sans women, No, it's not cultural, but the result of hundreds of thousands of years of biological evolution and natural selection in hunter-gatherer societies. There's a biological reason why the dark triad traits are attractive to women, why taller men are more attractive, why muscular men are attractive, why dominance is attractive etc; and it's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:50 PM
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It's not a question of opinion and putting weight, but seeing the objective reality through evidence and peer-reviewed literature. Studies have shown that statistically women aren't sexually attracted to empathetic, emotional men; but are attracted to dominant, narcissistic men. The only settle for the former with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:37 PM
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Well, Lawrence Summers was sacked from Harvard for making comments on gender inequalities in academia...
/r/TheRedPill21/04/15 01:56 AM
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So what you're saying is that you can upgrade multiple plates pawns to a queen, that you can spin as many as 8 queens at any one time on the board, that you sacrifice queens who act as the first mate, but it's the king that is the indispensable piece and the captain of the ship? chess sure seems a game for misogynistic shitlords...
/r/TheRedPill20/04/15 05:10 PM
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Ironically enough, some of the most aloof, dominant and alpha men in fiction are written by feminist women writers, e.g. Christian Grey in 50 shades of grey, or Don Draper in Mad Men.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/15 03:45 AM
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One would think that a fat person would entice possible partners due to the implicit evolutionary idea that they know how to accrue resources and provide for a family. But as the ancient saying goes, "no fatties". On the other hand, there is an incredibly strong long-term causal relationship between being fat and the onset of early mortality, diseases, and lack of health (i.e., biological risks), which might easily offset any short-term resource gain (environmental benefits) ...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 04:34 AM
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I'd like to think so, of course. I'm not exactly sure what you mean? While I have become much more pragmatic, I still think the emotional component (shared interests, experiences, etc.) is as important as physical attraction. However, I have also accepted the reality that most romantic relationships are always transactional at some level, but that doesn't lessen any satisfaction I get.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 08:04 PM
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The point of all this is as a RP man, is understanding the reality of social interactions between men and women. What people do with that knowledge can be widely different, such as from getting into a mutually satisfying sexual relationship with an attractive woman, or realizing your time is better spent on constant self-improvement, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 06:03 PM
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This is simply wrong. For example, the biggest thing you'll hear on TRP is to Hit the gym and lift weights. This gives you real confidence by setting well-defined goals that improve your sense of self-worth when you achieve them (e.g., something as small as hitting 200 on the bench, etc.). It also makes you fit, muscular which also has the side-effect of making you attractive to women. Putting yourself in social situations and learning how to flirt with women. i.e, learning the cues of what make…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 01:25 PM
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But, despite the low life-expectancy of individual humans, the overall epoch over which humans existed in hunter-gatherer societies was immense. For example, first consider the fact that even in hunter-gatherer societies, you still had widespread polygyny. Take this study from PLOS genetics. By quantitatively looking at the amount of genetic variation in the X chromosome , the authors say that ... we conclude that an historical excess of breeding females over the number of breeding males can by …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 12:42 AM
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Well, a lot of it is rationalization using evolutionary biology. Yes, it's very much a "soft" science and full of speculation, but I think a lot of the core ideas are based on scientific evidence and rational arguments. For example, take the claim of female hypergamy (i.e., upward social/economic mobility through marriage). It's been widely documented in scientific studies across various cultures; Check out the biologist E.O. Wilson's book On Human Nature, which talks about this in more detail. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 08:40 PM
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It'll all going to sound like old-fashioned PUA cliches, but really it's simply about becoming a more attractive and desirable person: The most important I think is improving your looks: i.e., going to the gym, lifting weights, getting ripped, dressing well. As much as we'd like to believe otherwise, human beings are basically just primates who wear clothes and think we're intelligent. Most of us are shallow and slaves to our biology; being fit will make attractive women interested in you. Keepi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 03:37 AM
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Who cares? Planet Fitness are trying to make money, and it's an easy way for them to cash-in on the low self-esteem of many people. Good for them. Plus, if there are less fat woman because they're actually using a treadmill at Planet Fitness instead of staying at home wallowing in self-pity, then that's good for everyone. Besides, in a real gym you'll learn pretty quickly that nobody's paying attention to you and are they're busy with their routines.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 04:40 PM
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The point is, I'm tired of these double standards. Really fucking tired of it. If you think about it though, it makes complete sense. Being physically weaker, women have literally biologically evolved the ability to convince men into doing things for them over billions of years. They instinctively understand social nuances and interactions much better than men, and will happily flirt, charm and dangle the possibility of sex to convince men to do things for them. There's no use getting upset abou…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 04:11 AM
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That's an extremely well written post, every paragraph was right on the money, should be sidebar material.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 10:49 PM
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You have to realize that there are always exceptions to every sociological theory, even TRP. This is because, TRP correctly points out that social interactions between men and women are shaped by evolutionary biology. This is true, and which is why it works so well in predicting and explaining the behavior of the statistical majority of men and women. (i.e, think of a bell shaped distribution of human behavior, with 99% of the population falling between +/- 3 times the deviation) But, of course …
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 06:33 PM
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Or, we can instead say fuck it to the whole idea of dancing to try to impress women, and instead dance to whatever tune we feel like pursuing. Even better if that tune involves something creative and leads to self betterment.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 01:48 AM
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Well, obviously that guy has a wrong perspective of how the world works, but it's still bad taste kicking a guy who's already down. It's just tragic really. Best to ignore people like this and focus on improving oneself; maybe someday he'll find happiness and realize how social interactions really work
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 09:47 PM
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That Richard Dawkins clip really was incredible. Also, this isn't the first time he's addressed how certain feminists distort reality to fit their agenda and narrative. Remember the furor and hate he got when he pointed out that certain rapes are much worse than others? Another classic example of feminists trying to claim their experiences are somehow the same as the unfortunate women truly suffering in war-torn african hell holes.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 06:05 PM
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Since you mentioned Philip Larkin, Aubade is another classic. Great reminder on the finiteness of our lives and not to worry and waste it away on unimportant things. I work all day, and get half-drunk at night. Waking at four to soundless dark, I stare. In time the curtain-edges will grow light. Till then I see what’s really always there: Unresting death, a whole day nearer now, Making all thought impossible but how And where and when I shall myself die. Arid interrogation: yet the dread Of dyin…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 12:17 AM
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"Always better the hard truth, I say, than the comforting fantasy." The reality is that social interactions between men and women doesn't happen in a vaccum. A lot of it is a consequence of human nature and biology that has been shaped by hundreds of thousands of years of natural selection. Yes, it might make you unhappy, but wouldn't you rather live with that knowledge of reality and an understanding of how things actually work? I'd trade the price of happiness for that knowledge every time.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 01:37 PM
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Yes yes, they all say that at your age and it's all very unfortunate and tragic. Can't change the past, but the thing is, going forward it's healthy to start asking what you bring to the table. For example, you mentioned elsewhere you still wait for guys to ask you out. Have you tried taking the initiative and asking guys out instead? Yes rejection sucks, but guess what? You're competing against younger women and don't have the luxury that they have in being passive. Also, the other piece of adv…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/15 08:54 PM
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I'm going to assume you're asking this in good faith and not trolling, but without sugarcoating it, there's no easy answer and you won't like the honest and brutally real answers you're going to get. Whenever I read posts like this, nowadays I just feel sad. At one point there was a sense of vindication but now it's just tragic. That said, your current situation is a direct consequence of your actions when you were younger. The reality is, very few men want to settle for a woman in her 40s who o…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/15 08:29 PM
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But, the fact is that feminism has been around for a while now, so if people agree with its goals and egalitarian principles, you'd expect some of it to be reflected in society already. And indeed it has, in some spheres. For instance, you have feminism classes offered at universities, popular media coverage (Emma Watson's speech, for example), and prevalence in books, TV, movies, etc. And yet, in the dating market, the overwhelming statistics bear out that it's still men who have to approach. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 05:52 PM
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what is the difference between a friendship between a man and a woman and the difference on the level as friendship between 2 men I have guy friends, who if I ask for help, will drop everything they're doing to assist, absolutely no questions asked. It's a deep unspoken trust. And, I can observe the same thing amongst numerous other male friendships. Can't say I've ever developed or observed something similar in male/female friends though; they'll always need to know why and are hesitant to comm…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/15 03:59 PM
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Personally, I think it's not conscious white supremacy at all, but simply economics and female hypergamy. (i.e., upward social mobility through the exchange of sex.) Basically, let's assume that every relationship is transactional, where women are permitting men regular access to sex in exchange for certain things, which include access to social validation, status and wealth. For whatever reasons (probably a combination of historical, economic and cultural factors), a white guy is perceived to h…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/14 03:16 AM
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Keep in mind that the author, Tracy Clark-Flory, is quite infamous for being the textbook example of AF/BB. Also, salon is just clickbait, don't give them ad revenues and use a screenshot instead.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 02:34 AM
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I want the truth out of her. I want her to confess. How can I go about this. You already know the truth, what's the point of asking? Whatever number she gives you, it's obviously going to be much less than the real number. If you think she's loyal now, well that's more that can be said of most women. If you think she isn't, then dump her and go find another plate to spin. Just don't make the mistake of getting married.
/r/TheRedPill22/11/14 07:53 PM
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Yes, there's even a comment on the askmen post echoing your point about how it's a 'legitimate concern' and not 'irrational'. There's only so much before men start to realize the reality of social interactions for what it really is.
/r/TheRedPill22/11/14 02:13 AM
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100s of years have shown us that all morality and thus all civilization beyond caves and pointy sticks was built on the foundation religion provides. Without it, more so the moral code, people would never have advanced. Is it though? The whole point of TRP is that a large (perhaps even the majority) of morality and choices men and women make is driven by evolutionary biology and natural selection. For example, take incest. There's a huge evolutionary advantage towards human beings who exhibit mo…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/14 11:53 PM
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The child abuse scandal alone should be enough to show the hypocrisy in the supposed bastion of morality.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/14 02:39 PM
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Richard Dawkins has a great quote in his book Unweaving the Rainbow which echoes this sentiment, and which I'll reproduce here: We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 08:17 PM
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What misogynistic feelings? I love women even more after discovering TRP, and now actually have a chance of properly expressing it when compared to my bluepill days. Understanding the biological and evolutionary reasons behind why people act the way they do in the sexual marketplace is objective, amoral and dispassionate. When your perception and feelings of what traits women should be attracted to is at total odds with reality, it's silly to feel misogynistic and hate women for being women. Bes…
/r/TheRedPill14/11/14 01:01 AM
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This is a great question. Before I found TRP, I would have classified myself as very left wing/liberal. But, since discovering TRP, I'm more self aware. Especially of what I perceive as the 'entitlement' of the liberal movement. On the huge emphasis it places on eschewing personal responsibility and opting for the 'daddy state' to intervene in a variety of both economic and social issues. I still think there are important liberal issues I empathize with. For example, welfare benefits for the des…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 09:33 PM
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Basically, due to the threat of federal financial assistance to universities being suspended. i.e, the Title IX amendment No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving federal financial assistance. tldr; Money talks.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/14 09:57 PM
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What's your current level of education and financial situation? Do you have an undergraduate degree? Do you have college loans/debt? Most graduate schools cover your PhD fees via teaching or research assistantships, as well as provide you with a stipend to cover living expenses, so you end up paying very little through your own pocket. A B.S undergraduate degree is different, and it's easy to rack up massive debts in private universities. Since you called it Uni, I'm guessing you're Australian? …
/r/TheRedPill08/11/14 09:41 PM
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Furthermore, telling someone to go spend their nights and weekends learning how to solve complex matrix differential equations by hand will not teach them anything that they will ever find useful unless they venture outside of pure maths. I disagree, solving matrix differential equations certainly has its applications in engineering. For one example: in identifying and characterizing the stability of non-linear engineering systems (i.e, feedback and control loops with many variables)
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 07:09 PM
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This is bullshit, inflicting unprovoked physical violence is not redpill. In fact, it's a classic example of losing frame, and frankly disgusting human behavior. If she had dumped the dude, showed no emotion and calmly walked away,that would have been the stoic TRP response.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 03:43 AM
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Either that or TRP guys love pretending to be girls that is. Remember that TwoX is now a default subreddit, which means the contents are visible even to a user not logged in the front page. That means much more men are reading those posts, and even if only a fraction of them aren't complete betas, hamstering is a little less easy and is called out more often.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 02:34 AM
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From modern classics, some personal favorites I'd recommend are: The Stranger, The Fall and Myth of Sisyphus, all by Albert Camus Siddhartha by Herman Hesse Being and Nothingness by Jean-Paul Sartre The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoyevsky Slaughterhouse-Five and Cat's Cradle by Vonnegut. Then there are excellent classics like Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, Discourses by Epictetus, Letters from a Stoic and The Shortness of Life by Seneca. Also, plenty of great scientific books (The Selfish Gene by…
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 11:27 PM
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Who gives a shit what other people think about what you're learning? You learn new things for yourself and to make your life better, which is selfish , great and the way it should be. Life is short enough, I'll be dead soon, and there are many things I want to learn before that. If this guy ends up coding a medical/diagnosis program or app which rakes in the money, all power to him.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 10:10 PM
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He edited the original post, but it depends on the type of fiction. I agree, there is an incredible amount one can learn from good fictional books; The Stranger by Albert Camus as one example. Siddhartha by Herman Hesse is another one. The main characters of both novels are walking examples of TRP.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 10:55 PM
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Peter Crouch said something similar too, and for good reason.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/14 10:55 PM
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He's just applying the Central limit Theorem. Lets's say "hotness" is a random variable that is distributed amongst girls using a points scale such that 5 is your average girl. Then for large enough sample size of girls, the central limit theorem ensures that hotness will follow a bell curve. The amount of 9s will depend on how wide the bell curve is, set by the standard deviation sigma (of six sigma fame). Most people will be average with super ugly and super hot girls the rare exceptions.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/14 02:42 AM
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He proposed this past May, just seven months after we met. I knew I was going to marry Jim the night I encountered him, at a reading in Chelsea in autumn, so it did not seem too soon. It is my good fortune never to have wed the 374 or so men I dated before Jim. Sigh.. oh Jim, you poor fool. And the most telling part: So I guess I have nothing to regret, after all. Some things never change... It's like the NYT opinion piece exists solely to provide a glimmer of hope to women who've hit the wall, …
/r/TheRedPill21/09/14 05:39 PM
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It's a rejection. In general, anything that is not a clear yes when you ask a girl out is a rejection. No worries, happens to everyone. Just stop giving her attention and next her; you'll either meet someone else or she'll be the one to contact you. I just got out of a relationship not ready for anything just now Usually is girlspeak for "I don't think you're attractive enough to fuck, but I want to keep you around for emotional validation". Doesn't matter if she broke up recently; if she meets …
/r/TheRedPill20/09/14 02:48 PM
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College town in the east coast of the states. I didn't have much luck at all initially either. Once I hit the gym, started playing sports and being much more direct in my approach, it got much easier. The most important thing TRP taught me was to never be friends with a woman who you're interested in, to always assume attraction and keep sexually escalating until she makes it clear she's not interested and always be ready to walk away. Works like magic.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/14 07:02 AM
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I'm an Indian guy, and I have a similar story too. I'm attracted to all types of girls of all races, but the last dozen girls I've dated have been either white or asian. Mainly because that's the girls I meet when out doing my hobbies. I totally agree with the hypocrisy though, I get the attempts at guilt trips all the time, especially from Indian girls who're in interracial relationships themselves. I've also noticed many Indian girls don't seem to be the outdoors type. I'm a big fan of running…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/14 09:18 PM
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but some of these girls only give you 30-45 minutes before they come up with some BS excuse to leave. That's perfectly fine with me, saves my time ... It's ridiculously easy to setup dates on okcupid, and there'll always be plenty of other girls.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/14 01:36 AM
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It's all the same thing... we're wasting our time arguing eternally about this. Absolute certainty and conviction in any belief, despite the lack of concrete evidence, is infact the ultimate bluepill. That's why you always question authority and the dominant discourse, look objectively at the evidence, and decide for yourself.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/14 06:24 PM
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Ppl like me ate not "cute" enough for women period. How old are you? From some of your comments, it's clear you seem to be suffering from depression. Take it from me, you need to be hitting the gym right now. You'll be surprised at the difference regularly going to the gym makes in how you feel about yourself, and how women treat you. It's like night and day. I will always be single. Even if this is true, in many ways it's a much more of a blessing than a curse. The biggest thing you have contro…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/14 06:19 PM
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The Stranger by Albert Camus. It's a fantastic book.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/14 06:05 PM
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Lucky ones? Are you fucking insane? The poor bastard would be infinitely happier alone instead of having such a girlfriend. He's got too little self esteem and is too bluepill to realize the sex isn't worth this abuse. If he's really lucky, he'll walk away and put and end to this tragedy.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/14 04:07 AM
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Maryam totally deserves this award. Make no mistake, she got the Fields medal based on the quality and brilliance of her work, not just because she's a woman. The mathematics community is notoriously meritocracy based. Her brilliance was obvious even in school (for example, gold medal in the international math olympiad with a perfect score). There's a great interview that has a nice quote from her However, I should say that the education system in Iran is not the way people might imagine here. A…
/r/TheRedPill13/08/14 01:20 AM
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Honestly, it really makes me sad for the 20-something me. Like all that work I did on myself to be a better person, to be knowledgeable and well-read was a giant waste of time (then), because no one really gave a shit. I could have been a fucking crack whore and cheated on all them and gotten away with it. That's fascinating because that right there shows why she (and perhaps many women) fundamentally miss the point of TRP. That it's to make yourself better and happier, independent of what other…
/r/TheRedPill10/08/14 07:20 PM
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Classic example of women slut shaming other women instead of dealing with cold hard facts. The real question should be, are women posting sexy photos on social media objectively less competent? As one example, if you objectively evaluate the competence of young women graduate students in academia (by say, a metric like number of papers published vs number of sexy social media photos), I'm sure you'll find a very strong inverse correlation. I bet you'll find the same thing using any objective met…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 03:37 AM
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I always split the bill on dates, especially first dates. If she acts offended, then that's a big red flag right there.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 11:20 PM
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Of course she burned through 'bad boys' in her early 20's. I wonder what barrier she might have encountered of late that changed her preferences...
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 11:05 PM
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Because statistically speaking, the hot young 20 something is usually 'hotter' than the hot 30 something.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 01:08 AM
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I'm as redpill as the next person, but this is a strange question, because of course there are women who have contributed tremendously to science and technology. You have to remember that most men AND women do not make major innovations in their lives. They live, eat and die. It's only a select few who have the combination of luck, skill and hard work to make a lasting impact. Yes, historically many of them have been men, for evolutionary and sociological reasons. There are more men at either en…
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 05:14 PM
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I disagree. If you have a rough idea of how many girls you pull a year, you can easily extrapolate over your dating window to get a good estimate. In fact, personally I think this strategy completely explains "alpha fucks beta bucks". Let's say women enter the marriage market at 18 and their biological window closes at about 45 when menopause starts becoming an issue. That gives a time period of 27 years in the market. 36.7 percent of 27 is 10 years. So, probabilistically their best strategy is …
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 07:01 PM
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That only works if you have a list of all girls you'll ever date and you're working your way down it. Not quite. It works, if you have an estimate of the total number of girls you'll ever date (and this needs to be large). Also, you're not working your way "down" as much as meeting them in random order. Think of it this way: there are 100 girls you want to date in a year, you date them in random order, and one of them is the best. The probability that the best girl is the first one you meet is 1…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 06:26 PM
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This is actually called the marriage problem, and the solution is really simple. Assuming that you date a lot of girls (which is always a good idea), and that you want nothing but the best, then your winning move is as follows: Reject the first 36.8% of the girls you date however good you think they are, but in mind who you feel is the best of them (let's call her Katie). Then, after the first 36.8%, if you meet someone who's better than Katie, then she's the one you want and settle with. This m…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 05:36 PM
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"What, only now?" (esp. if you knew her for a while)
/r/TheRedPill12/05/14 06:08 PM
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I'd say less due to attitude, and more due to money, status and fame.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/14 03:10 PM
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I would rather know the truth about reality, however unappealing it is, than live in a reassuring but deluded fantasy world. It may not make you happy, but understanding the true nature of reality, the world, men & women, society, etc. has a grim satisfaction of it's own, one that I wouldn't ever trade away.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/14 08:49 PM
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The fact someone stole her is because you didn't truly care and were disingenuous throughout the relationship. Or, because she felt attracted to some other guy and decided to have sex with him. live that meaningless life Life is meaningless anyway. Any meaning you invent is completely artificial. Might as well be having sex with hot women in your short time on earth, instead of being a nice "friend" who's shoulder she cries on before she goes out and fucks another dude.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/14 02:53 PM
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Also, notice that they still pick the relatively decent looking ones. PhD or not, those models are still not fat, have symmetric facial features, etc. Those models are still by and large attractive women who happen to have a PhD. If you pick an average PhD grad student in science/engineering, she would look nothing like that, and that clothing brand sure wouldn't be selling as many clothes. Have you ever dated a woman studying in grad school? The tragedy is, most of them are all incredibly entit…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 12:19 AM
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With a large enough sample size (population of ~ 6 billion), statistically improbable events happen all the time. Things like this are the exceptions, not the rule. I'm sure there are a few odd million people punching above their weight, and a few million punching well below. For the average guy though, it's highly improbable that he'll be able to hook up with some hot blonde if he's not of the same level.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/14 09:50 PM
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It's incredible, Richard Dawkins is the man, telling it like it is. Amazing how many of my fellow non-religious friends are so bluepill though. It's like they selectively interpret parts of reality that are convenient to them, instead of trying to understand the way the world actually is.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/14 03:23 PM
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Science is concerned with evidence of repeatable, testable hypotheses. Not everything in the universe, nor every question about the nature of existence can be addressed by the scientific method. Dismissing all other forms of inquiry because you only accept one form of inquiry would seem to necessitate an incomplete look into the nature of existence. I agree with large parts of that, but my major beef is that religion is too convenient. It's the ultimate BluePill. What do I mean by this? For exam…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 06:21 PM
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Good for you dude. Remember that you're not alone in what you're going through. Countless men have experienced this exact same scenario play out. Completely cut all contact, hit the gym and keep improving yourself. If there's one mantra to live by it's "alpha fucks beta bucks".
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 03:24 PM
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I think it's mainly because it's not scientific. Religion is just one big rationalization hamster about existential fears. I even think its telling that women tend to be statistically more religious than men (i.e, because their neurobiology makes them more prone to hamstering) Considering how evolutionary ideas are such a big part of TRP, it's not surprising to find many atheists here.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 03:14 PM
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This is where the challenge to some of what I've seen on TRP comes in. She said to me, and to her friend, that "we're not having sex". I was uncomfortable giving up control to her but I wasn't sure what to say so I just jokingly went with it. Once we were walking home alone I said "so seeing as you don't want to have sex I'm going to go home". Figured at this point that me giving up control to her had nuked it, but she asked me to come over and "cuddle". (LOL). What challenge? It's following the…
/r/TheRedPill28/02/14 11:48 PM
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Walk away dude. At your age, there'll always be someone younger, hotter, tighter, more available.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/14 01:12 PM
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I found it helpful to sort by "newly joined". As always, the high SMV ones are rarely single for long and get snapped up pretty soon, so what you usually see are the rest with an inflated sense of SMV cause they keep getting messages/hit on. The newly joined women don't realize their inflated SMV yet and are much less picky and open to meeting over a date.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 05:02 AM
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Treat it like any other date. Always touch and escalate when possible, back off when she's uncomfortable and try again later once you establish comfort.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 01:36 PM
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Here's the thing: don't preach on facebook because it sounds like whining and people will believe you are bitter and that only lowers value. Trying to "spark some controversy" sounds suspiciously like attention seeking/validation behavior. If I were you, I'd delete facebook, just head out and talk to people in bars, join some hobby club, etc. There was an excellent post recently on how the only thing you should be using facebook for is pictures of you doing awesome things.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/14 10:00 PM
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This is EXACTLY what I ended up doing independently. Also, never ever add any girl you've met and are interested in on facebook.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 06:44 PM
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I think pontifx was sarcastically stating the popular sentiment she hears from other younger guys and older women. I don't think he's calling her a whore.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 03:28 PM
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Religious beliefs are totally unscientific and demonstrably false, whereas TRP bases it's arguments on evidence of social interactions in the real word (for example, including evolutionary ideas, many of which religions including Islam reject outright). So, there's a world of difference.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/14 05:38 PM
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The time I thought about my past relations with women was the moment I realized the truth to TRP. Absolutely, stumbling across TRP has made my life so much happier, and every previous interaction just makes complete sense and clicks into place. You guys are incredible, you have no idea how much the quality of my life and self-worth has gone up. I've been improving myself and learning skills the previous me would never have even imagined.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 04:31 AM
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Look, the best way to see the validity of any hypothesis is to independently test it. Why don't you go and try out some of the things you read in TRP during social interactions in real life, and let us know how it works out for you? Do you see a change in how women start perceiving/interacting with you?
/r/TheRedPill29/12/13 08:12 AM
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Why men and women act the way they do in the dating game, understood in the framework of biological and evolutionary ideas.
/r/TheRedPill26/12/13 02:47 AM
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TRP doesn't say anything normative at all about how you ought to act. It just describes that women are attracted to a certain type of behavior. What someone does with that information is entirely up to them. You can try to improve your intrinsic worth by getting better at some valuable skill, or you can do the stuff the pick-up community advocates (negging, push-pull, etc.), or you can be a MGTOW, or whatever. At the end of the day, TRP is simply a collection of facts about social interactions a…
/r/TheRedPill25/12/13 01:36 AM
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Hardly unsurprising; the 1 in 200 is probably also a fundamentalist christian who believes that mary was literally a virgin mother.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/13 12:39 AM
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I've thought about this a lot recently. But is it not inevitable of today's society to produce women who behave this way? This is basically among the central consequences behind the principles that TRP points out. I think the big one is that women aren't encouraged to have children young any more and instead pursue careers, basically they're not encouraged to be women. I agree this is a core TRP concept, but personally, I think that women can pursue careers, and still be feminine. To me, the bas…
/r/TheRedPill15/12/13 10:22 PM
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Look, that's a stupid comment, and this is why the TRP gets flak. Instead, it's perfectly possible to be a good father to a daughter, instill in her a set of moral values and the teach her the realities of the world. In her teenage years, inculcate her curiosity and passion in science, the arts, the natural world, etc. Help her develop interesting hobbies, go hiking together, explore and show her the world and how it works. She'll be a fine woman if you raise her right and act as a good strong r…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 08:46 PM
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You don't have to change who you are deep down I strongly disagree with this, for one particular reason. Given the realities of the social interactions between men and women, it's not about being ethical/unethical, but understanding the nature of the sexual marketplace. Given this reality, there are certain strategies which are very effective to attract women. In all probability, "nice", "empathetic", "caring" guys, who spend a lot of their time on satisfying the emotional needs of women need to…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 05:44 PM
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Unfortunately, that's not how it works. I had literally exactly the same experience that you described, down to a T, and that's how I found the TRP as well. Any decently attractive woman has absolutely tons of men complimenting/hitting on them. As a result, they grow used to this and are entitled to this attention. I mean, it's much much easier for an attractive woman to get attention/sex; that's just the reality of human interactions. It's not their fault at all, it's just a consequence of biol…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 03:47 PM
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That's interesting... I wonder if there's an evolutionary reason? For younger men, there's a strong evolutionary selection pressure; so any set of genes which cause these abnormalities in younger fathers is swamped out by the larger number of "normal genes". But, there are fewer men who have kids when they are older, so there's less selection pressure. After all, these defects happen in the same genes only after a certain age, so the younger kids are all fine and continue to carry the genes whic…
/r/TheRedPill10/12/13 02:50 AM
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I was in a similar position not too long ago (in my mid twenties now). The best thing I can say is: Find out what you really care about in life and get really really good at it. If you have the money, then travel as much as you can ... go hiking; learn new outdoor skills; learn to ski or scuba dive, etc. Or, if you're the academic type, enroll in a program and be the best at it. If you really want to pick up women and game them, go ahead and do that. At the end of the day, we'll all be dead very…
/r/TheRedPill29/11/13 03:03 PM
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It's not a question of morality, it's a question of evolutionary biology. The basic premise is that, (i) our behavioral response in social situations has been directed to some extent by evolutionary pressures. (ii) Women have MUCH MUCH easier access to sex. Therefore, to make sure they only have sex with the highest quality men, there are certain characteristics they are almost universally attracted to (i.e, dark triad traits, dominance, high wealth) and very specific behavioral cues they employ…
/r/TheRedPill26/11/13 03:21 PM
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But lets say a girl enters the conversation that he finds attractive he switches to be demeaning towards me to obviously try to look dominant and elevate his status. You need a better friend. He's probably been burned previously by his behavior, so he tries to overcompensate, but he doesn't realize that men can see through such things. I had a short friend who tried to compensate by being over aggressive like this; his entire demeanor instantly switches when there's a girl around and he tries so…
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 05:18 PM
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The sad thing is, my behavior was identical to "Ted" a year ago; it's disgusting how pathetic I used to be when I look back. Also, seeing the exact same scenario, one that I thought happened only to me, keep occurring with such startling and predictable regularity in social interactions, helps maintain my current frame and new found knowledge. If you're not a natural alpha, it's so easy to get complacent and get sucked back into the old mode. I'm just so glad I found this community.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/13 03:08 PM
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Completely agree, but even if there's no objective meaning or significance to our lives, it still shows how valuable our time alive is... I feel learning more truths about the world (i.e., scientific knowledge, even various sociological and behavioral redpill facts) is a big thing keeping me going (currently working on a PhD in STEM now) Reality works in a mysterious way following various interesting and beautiful laws. IMO, Trying to learn those objective rules is a worthwhile way to spend time…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/13 09:03 AM
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Just got the book, it reads great so far. Thanks for the recommendation.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/13 03:42 AM
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Fair points
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 02:58 AM
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You can always go to college later IF you ever want to, but you can never get back your physical prime. But, you'll never get back your "mental" prime either... For example, people go to college also to learn stuff for its own sake (because learning things, like science, is very rewarding in itself). The older you get, the harder it is to make a meaningful contribution as your mental ability declines. I think college is essential. Not only does it improve your market value, but it allows you to …
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 12:57 AM
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But that's quadratic... Then it should be ehotness*solipsism ;)
/r/TheRedPill09/10/13 09:20 PM
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You must remember that 8000 years is nothing compared to the evolutionary timescale when the human species diverged from our common ancestors (many hundered of thousands of years of hunter-gatherer lifestyle). Our brain, and any biological basis for our emotional and social behavior, has evolved almost entirely predominantly to ensure survival during the hunter-gather lifestyle. In the Nature vs Nurture debate, if you believe that a large part of our behavior is guided by various biochemical pat…
/r/TheRedPill03/10/13 02:25 AM
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