Anti-game

Whisper · 2015-12-26T02:23:38+00:00

Why not just be yourself

Because anything I do is by definition being myself.

I am being myself.

Neoprime · 2015-12-25T03:37:07+00:00

how about you just figure out the type of girls who are attracted to you right now and only ask those girls out on dates?

What if someone isn't happy with their selection of the girls that are attracted to them right now? What if they want to attract better looking women?

Why not just be yourself

Because hot girls don't like out of shape slobs.

factsnotfeelings · 2015-12-25T10:50:59+00:00

Men need to learn the difference between 'a relationship of convenience' based on a cold hearted exchange of resources, and genuine love based on physical attraction.

The latter is only experienced by the top 10% of attractive men. If you are not in this group, forget about being loved.

CD_Johanna · 2015-12-25T04:19:18+00:00

Mark Manson suggests in "Models" to find your demographic of women.

alreadyredschool · 2015-12-25T03:51:26+00:00

Blue

Xemnas81 · 2015-12-25T06:53:20+00:00

Scarcity mentality/femcentric frame

Swap it to 'figure out who you're attracted to and compatible with then just approach them' and you have a rather protracted and impractical polarisation game

grendalor · 2015-12-25T12:33:32+00:00

Not actionable for lots of guys because the few women who may be attracted to them "as they are" are themselves not attractive to these guys. Hence the guys want to improve themselves so that they can attract women they are actually attracted to. The just be yourself strategy, which is what you wrote, only works if yourself attracts people you are attracted to.

wattwatty · 2015-12-25T18:23:55+00:00

just figure out the type of girls who are attracted to you

I don't know why it is so hard to understand that it is this statement that is so problematic. No woman is attracted to me as I am. Period. Some women are of such low value that they would settle for me, it is true. But, they would never be truly attracted to me. I'd rather be alone than settled for.

[deleted] · 2015-12-26T04:05:38+00:00

I like lifting, tho.

[deleted] · 2015-12-25T03:30:51+00:00

You obviously want us to tell you that this is the Blue Pill. But here's the thing. Most people that hate Red Pill do acknowledge that lifting will help, that oneitis won't help you and that outcome indepence is a good thing.

What people disagree with on The Red Pill are the misogenystic comments and posts, and the generalizations of relationships.

By having TRP include some common sense stuff (lift, confidence etc), TRP can convienently claim that everyone who uses that stuff has discovered Red Pill truths. But they aren't really Red Pill truths, they are well known truths that TRP also uses.

So, the color of your strategy is neither.

ThalesToAristotle · Fri Dec 25 3:30:54 2015 UTC

I completely agree. This has been my "strategy" (as sick as feel for using that word) for my entire life and I do not plan on changing it. Doing so seems harmful and quite frankly toxic.

joseremarque · 2015-12-25T08:48:19+00:00

Brown pill. Because it's shit.

wtknight · 2015-12-25T04:03:27+00:00

This is actually good advice if you want a relationship and consistent sex with one woman, but if you are your typical TRPer who wants sex with as many women as Chad because he has an inferiority complex, then your advice is not good enough for him.

discoFalston · 2015-12-25T03:37:06+00:00

If you could be satisfied with your current dating situation, would you even seek out something like TRP or an alternative?

caesarfecit · 2015-12-25T06:00:34+00:00

Here's a dating strategy. Tell me what color pill it is.

Instead of trying to "improve" yourself by lifting weights or learning "game" or even making friends in order to gain social status, how about you just figure out the type of girls who are attracted to you right now and only ask those girls out on dates? Don't waste time with those other supposedly "better" girls who expect you to impress them. If you have to make any effort to impress a girl, you're putting her on a pedestal, whether she knows it or not.

Mark Manson has a similar term for this - demographics. No guy can be attractive to every kind of girl, and the more compatible you are with your intended, the easier sledding it is. Trying to pick up girls who don't share your values, goals, and interests is a challenge at best, and masochism at worst.

That being said, it isn't that you can't try at all with women, it's more that you can't put more effort into the interaction than she is.

Why not just be yourself and figure out the type of girls who like you? Most of the girls in my life who ever paid any attention to me were of a certain ethnicity, hair color, or body type. Looks matter. But it's mainly the looks you were born with, not so much your haircut or the clothes you wear.

This is bullshit. I've been with girls of every body type and skin color. Virgins and single moms, sorority girls and hipster chicks.

Looks are not your face. They're your body, grooming, and fashion. Thinking otherwise is making excuses not to try. I've seen conventionally unattractive guys do just fine provided their grooming/fashion was good and they had some game.

Stop watching porn, stop obsessing over feminism, and let your instincts guide you. Use the force. To hell with "game".

Perhaps when you stop making excuses and settling for girls you're not really happy with. Both approaches when taken to extremes produce unhealthy consequences, but your worldview has one, maybe two things right with it, and a bunch of stuff wrong with it.

Dietyz · 2015-12-25T07:33:38+00:00

Well this is pretty unambitious, I don't think any great individual perceives the world this way

What would Genghis Khan have amounted to if he saw the world this way?

FirionDarklight · 2015-12-25T11:22:38+00:00

So, be apathetic and a loser millenial with no drive.

[deleted] · 2015-12-25T13:43:05+00:00

why go through an education when you can just work in a sweat shop?

jonascf · 2015-12-25T13:53:18+00:00

How about a satisfying middle between two extremes? Do stuff to improve yourself and be honest about the fact that there a lot of different reasons for improving, if becoming more attractive is one of them then don't deny it.

As an example: I work out and exercise mainly because I like the feeling it gives me; the joy in doing physical stuff, the endorphin rush and the great feeling of having a strong, well coordinated body. But I wouldn't deny that there are other things that makes me do it too and becoming more attractive is one of them. I like the attention that I get sometimes but that alone wouldn't motivate me to do it.

Neoprime · 2015-12-25T14:47:06+00:00

Greatest advice ever.

elitemage101 · 2015-12-25T15:35:47+00:00

Unfortunately myself attracts people "I" am not looking for. (I seem to get the attention of shy girls but I am attracted to bravado.)

99_Problem · 2015-12-25T16:29:31+00:00

This post is so stupid and myopic it must have been written by a woman or a teenager.

scrantonic1ty · 2015-12-25T20:21:30+00:00

I don't really see any benefit to avoiding improvement for the sake of some ideological aversion to game. I fundamentally prefer being strong and fit to being a weak bitch (having experienced both in my lifetime). That mindset comes before any consideration of the opposite sex.

Da_Acolyte · 2015-12-26T02:48:58+00:00

Wait...whats the scientific method for figuring out which girls like me as is?

lbspredh · 2015-12-26T16:58:07+00:00

keep your dating pool as wide as possible, it's not going out of your way to impress someone if you just want to be sexy

whatutterjapes · 2015-12-27T11:27:25+00:00

This sounds like a terrible idea. Primarily because the act of learning game is such a rewarding and wonderful experience where the whole point is to challenge the self imposed limitations of what kind of girls you can get.

Attractiveness in men is behavioural, if we take a neckbeard and a guy who gets laid all the time and make the neckbeard adopt certain behaviours of that guy, he gets laid more. A lot of those behaviours are actually really healthy although I doubt anyone here has even heard of congruence or outcome independence, or being non reactive.

Point is game is a journey of spiritual and emotional growth. Dating girls who are "in your league" is normally based on limiting beliefs of what really constitutes your league

Title	Anti-game
Author	fallapy
Upvotes	4
Comments	44
Date	December 25, 2015 3:22 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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