Men should start lowering their standards using Online dating.

Det_Steve_Sloan · 2021-07-01T18:18:24+00:00

0.8% match rate for the average guy on Tinder. This is, frankly, a problem of hideous women thinking that they're better looking than they actually are.

I used to model, I get like a 15-20% match rate, where I'm already settling and having to put in more work for 7/10s online than I have to for 8-10/10s offline.

Instead of fretting over OLD, a guy should just go lift.

f1vepointoh · 2021-07-01T19:09:57+00:00

Ummm hell no. If im not attracted to her and the sex isnt good why the hell would i get into a monogamous relationship and be miserable?

Super-Peoplez-S0Lt · 2021-07-01T20:01:06+00:00

Most men on OLD don't have high standards. In fact, the only standards many have is respond to their first messages. You clearly don't know the sacristy a lot of men have on OLD. Most men can't afford to have high standards to begin with.

Any_Championship_654 · 2021-07-01T18:29:11+00:00

In practice both genders try to shoot way out of their league. Women think most men are a few points less attractive than they are, so they think they're 'settling' for just above average guys who in reality as way above average. Men are at least more honest that they want the best of the best.

chris88118811 · 2021-07-01T18:23:50+00:00

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midwestufohunter · 2021-07-01T18:30:00+00:00

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01011001011000010110 · 2021-07-01T22:11:22+00:00

when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys’

There is the first flaw.
How many women really message first? I agree that a lot of those messaging first are rather grounded, but these are a minority on dating apps. The infamous study is also years old. The mentality shifted. I don't see girls messaging as often as they did in the pre-2010 to early 2010 period.

There's even a newer study saying girls don't initiate often but get more attractive men if they do initiate.
https://theblog.okcupid.com/a-womans-advantage-82d5074dde2d

It's true that women seem to have a healthier pattern if and only if they do initiate. But these are a minority compared to men.
Standards have probably risen by a fair bit since the exploding popularity of apps such as Snapchat and TikTok.

nothatyoucare · 2021-07-02T00:02:23+00:00

You cant make this shit up, the study that incels used for years saying how ''women only want attractive men'' ''women are very choosy'' meanwhile, its was majorly men's fault

When you say it was majorly men's fault can you explain this? Were women pursuing these men and getting rejected?

I also wonder if the men pursuing the top of the heap are the same men suffering from sexlessness. They’re both part of the male pop but maybe not the same parts. It could be the ones who are sexless have lowered their standards.

headchefboyardee · 2021-07-01T18:29:45+00:00

Nah. Men should get better at re-presenting themselves as better looking and more interesting than they actually are, like women do on apps and social media.

4D-Alien · 2021-07-01T18:14:29+00:00

Lol is this gaslighting? I can tell youve never made a ugly obese female tinder and see how many super likes, likes, and guys flooding dm’s

Cant say the same for ugly obese men, and even average looking men

Liberal_On_Guns · 2021-07-01T18:17:55+00:00

This is a very toxic and unpersuasive debate strategy. First of all, let's address the hypergamy thing: Hypergamy is a widely accepted phenomenon in anthropology as well as psychology. Hell, I literally just had a psych class at a woke-AF university and this was literally in the textbook, and on tests. Declaring hypergamy to be a myth is to defy the academic literature, recent survey data, as well as common sense.

Second, let's address the overall claim. You take issue with one claim out of one study. Unfortunately, the study from OKCupid was one piece of data collected from a plethora of sources. Even if your point was valid, there's tons of polls, surveys, studies, and data pointing to the exact same conclusion. Spiking the football on this is weak, and especially since you admit in the post that women find 80% of men "worse than average."

That literally is all you need to know to prove the point, and it's not "incel" it's just reality: Women think most men are below average looking.

midwestufohunter · 2021-07-01T18:41:28+00:00

Nope.

Women don't want to date men who aren't attracted to them.

If you believe you are "settling" for someone you will treat them worse.

That's toxic and fucked up.

801735 · 2021-07-01T18:54:48+00:00

Men should start lowering their standards using Online dating.

No, thank you, but no, thank you.

if you disagree with this youre disagreeing with facts and logic and stats

I don't disagree with anything, but my answer remains.

IOportA · 2021-07-01T23:54:11+00:00

If men lower their standards women will continue to get less and less attractive. Break the cycle.

TonightFewstars · 2021-07-02T01:37:33+00:00

Men just need to eschew OLD entirely.

It's too superficial, women get too much sexual attention and it becomes a game.

It's bad for your mental health.

Unless you're in your 30s looking to date a lady in her 30s too, get off it.

TakeThePinkPill · 2021-07-01T20:03:02+00:00

The way men treat women they are not attracted to is nightmarefuel. I can tell you this first hand, many women in my communities can tell you first hand. Them being neutral and acting like you don't exist is the more positive end of this and it feels like shit. No thanks, let these kings run FDS game -- aim high and be willing to stay single. Not going to expect men to check their attitudes. Some barely cooperate with women they find attractive

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kingsmen901 · 2021-07-01T19:00:15+00:00

Look guys ride out your twenties and thirties help liberate tinder modern women by hooking up keep relationships temporary short term and don't lose your edge.

The wall never loses and we have the ball in our court when that happens.

theoracleofosiris · 2021-07-01T23:57:57+00:00

Guys thinking of using a platform to OLD should first pose as a girl to get an idea of the competition but most importantly the amount of attention and notifications the girl gets.

Want to push pull? Neg her? Yeah you gonna be drowned out by the 100s of other dms in her box.

A waste of time.

gimpgirl555 · 2021-07-02T05:59:10+00:00

I think that there is truth to this. But it means that men have to settle for women that they aren't attracted to, and I don't think that's okay.

It's better for them to be single and pay for e-thots than to be with a woman who doesn't make them happy.

It doesn't benefit women to be settled for either.

Wrasserman · 2021-07-02T09:14:54+00:00

Online dating is rigged against men. Not only are there more men, the apps themselves reduce your chances of being seen unless you pay.

Your standards could be rock bottom yet you'd still have a hard time finding anyone.

fwoketrash · 2021-07-02T19:30:33+00:00

Online dating doesn't work for men. Women aren't even looking for relationships online anyways, they are looking for (at most) sex with Chad, or just easy validation and ego masterbation.

By OLD, you're just helping a bunch of low value women feel they are worth more than they really are. Get out in the real world, it's better there.

Title	Men should start lowering their standards using Online dating.
Author	chris88118811
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Date	July 1, 2021 5:50 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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