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under patriarchy a woman rarely will enthusiastically scream she wants your dick inside her. She is self conscious to not come across as an easy woman - even around a guy she likes. All flirty banter involves pursuit and testing boundaries and this is part of the mating game, women aren’t damsels in distress and are aware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:31 PM

everyone lies before getting into bed. we had a guy get imprisoned in israel for hooking up with a jewish woman and omitting hes a muslim. there is your “informed consent”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:01 PM
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be nice to a woman and hope something more develops:“ugh nice guy with ulterior motives” tell her you want to fuck her from the go; “men only see us as objects to stick their D’s in”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:50 PM
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Im not the one who has a problem with relationships between consenting adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:02 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:00 PM
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what exactly is “creepy” about a relationship between two consenting adults here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:59 PM
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people forget that much of what is said about age gap relationships was already said about same sex and interracial relationships . You got all the tropes here - from throwing the word “predators” around like a republican on a campaign trail, to claiming how certain men are “preying” on women to tropes about deviants grooming kids into the gay lifestyle. redditors here have no idea how many logical trappings their arguments have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:54 PM
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people into gossip celebrity culture are known to be low iq.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:50 PM
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is the 26yo not capable of making a informed decision about who they wanna date?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:49 PM

especially in america they have this idea you must only date people in your life stage (despite yapping about diversity being a strength) they think relationships are like business mergers where partners must be perfect equals moving in the exact same pace through life. This mentality is a product of a highly structured industrial society where life itself is treated like a corporate ladder it leaves little room for the idea two people might click despite having different birth certificates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:38 PM
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explains why women eliminate autistic men who can’t do the “dance” of seduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:31 AM

“he groomed me into sleeping with him”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:28 AM
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its crazy how women are so woke about autism awareness, but nothing gets a guy socially ostracized quicker than fumbling a woman. "Omg he heckin lingered for 0.7 seconds after she clearly looked disinterested" they will say expecting a guy to bail the nanosecond she appears to LOOK - not even says that she is - disinterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:49 AM
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the women here are suddenly backpedaling, last time I checked even porn starlets dressed up in school uniforms were indicative that men were depraved pedophiles, now porn just became a harmless fantasy when as they had to defend the smut they themselves consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:17 AM
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imagine two siblings: the guy is tall, athletic, blue eyed and blonde, his sister is tall, slender and also has blue eyes and is blonde. They both will be considered attractive, if not even model-like, by many. Now imagine another two siblings: this time the girl is short, has thunder thighs, a fat ass and bamby brown eyes. She doesn't have prominent cheekbones but a rounded baby face. She will still be seen as attractive by many, men and women alike, despite not looking anywhere near like a run…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:03 AM
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Yoga class isn’t really a place to socialize tho? I go to practice, be present, and focus on my breath. It’s like moving meditation for me, and a big part of how I take care of my body and mind. I’m not there to chat with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:40 AM
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i shit you not they shoehorn guys straight back to dating apps and then when that doesn't work they go "duh OLD is a sausage fest maybe meet women irl"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:32 AM
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women: "just join a hobby/club where people with similar interests gather" men: "you mean like a gym club?" also women "no lol, women are there to workout not to be bothered by you"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:25 PM
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The dynamics of treating women different than you treat men are gross, It is a different dynamic. For starters at no point in my life I wanted to shag one my mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:19 PM
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"just treat women as people" Treat women as regular people who like sex and with whom you can make babies with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:38 PM

a man who is about to get into a double digit body count is rarely seen as entitled, but a virgin wanting (1) girlfriend surely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:54 PM

So is Lolicon and how many of you up-standing do-gooders would defend someone liking that as "just fantasy" and totally not indicative of his inner psychosexual state?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:19 PM

again would you call it "just fiction" if you knew someone that consumed smut depicting kiddos getting it on?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:05 PM

would you call it "just fiction" if you knew someone that consumed smut depicting kiddos getting it on?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:01 PM

Why is men working for the good of society contingent on having access to women's bodies?ž Let me get this straight: women consume literature fantasising about being some 6ft4 dominant, powerful alpha CEO's personal toilet plunger, but when a lonely man goes "gee I wish I had a wife who would make me stew sometimes" he deserves to be lonely because he is "entitled"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:55 PM
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You did not understand what OP is trying to say. He is pointing out that when the average guy wanted to experience a "phase" where he'd just want to get laid he was called a pig who only wants to stick his D into women instead of treating intimacy as this cherry on top thing that comes within a relationship and a deep emotional bond with a woman - these same people however ask him not to mind all the string free casual sex women had, because casual fucking just feels good to the body and everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:04 AM
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I gave you all the contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:44 PM
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They absolutely do not mean, "I want men to approach me while I am busy or don't currently want to be bothered. How would someone know that? Its not like you follow her around and stake out to watch whether she is busy that whole particular day in the week lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:12 PM
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At the grocery store - "I'm shopping." At a restaurant - "I'm eating." At the bar - "I'm just here with my friends." At the park - "I'm here to just be alone with my dog." At the gym - "I'm just here to workout." At work - "I'm working and calling HR." At school - "I'm learning." At dance classes - "I'm just here to learn to dance"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:07 PM
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I have more women as friends than male ones, but its always "haha sorry I don't see you that way" - explain this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:31 PM
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When i see those "undesirable" men screaming about sexlessness, i do know that it's not sex they actually want, most of them wouldn't really care or enjoy it really. They want to not feel like a failure in their men hierarchy. They want status. They want proof that they are desirable as they are, usually without any effort from their part, because that's what gives the most status points. You give women freedom to choose and they go right back to showering high status men with affection and desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:19 PM
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No, they say that to men who turn their dating struggles into bitterness, misogyny, and blaming women for all their problems. the only difference between a virgin and the guy you described seems to be whether he accepts the role women or society at large has prescribed them. Women are more than accepting of lonely, unattractive men, in fact, a lot of commenters here go on lengths trying to draw a distinction between virgins and incels. They see no problem with virgin men as long as they stick to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:31 PM
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lol all the comments suggest the implication is well understood among those who liked and shared the post, the sentiment is basically "you don't actually like him, sis. its your brain tricking you due to proximity effect" .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:39 PM
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Can someone explain why women often say men are wrong about instant attraction—that attraction can grow as you get to know someone—yet at the same time, viral posts like this seem to dismiss attraction that developed through familiarity or proximity?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:43 PM

and if he is open about his intentions from the get-go you get annoyed because he’s treating women as “romantic prospect” instead of getting to know them as a friends first😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:45 AM
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Yes, women are into all kids of archetypes in men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:19 AM
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"nichemaxxing" is something that worked in high school since teenagers are into subcultures with different aesthetics, cultivating a sense of belonging - but you were also expected to grow out of it so that "Niche" shit ain't working with ladies over 25 since 99% of them are business casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:16 AM
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Groundbreaking. Attractiveness hierarchies still exist in subcultures. why are we talking about "archetypes" if its just this meme all over again?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:13 AM
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We had specialized care for those who were found to be mentally unable to make sound or rational decisions (minors who were grooming victims, mentally challenged) , but this required psychiatric evaluation and not just declaring "women get stuck in a cycle of abuse" which is a case of junk framing of a situation rather than confronting some uncomfortable truths about sexual selection. Think of it like this: high functioning autistic men who never harmed anyone still have more difficulty attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:16 PM
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I worked at a crisis center for 2 years where women would come hiding from their abusive boyfriends and then try to prevent us from calling the police because the guy just had "a bad day" and is "perfectly normal" otherwise. Often times they returned back into the relationship and came running to us again when the bully snapped and decided to use her as a punching bag. It fucking amazes me to this day how women will claim they intuitively get the "ick" around "nice guys" because they they might …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 10:31 PM

every guy who grew up in a low-income or hood/ghetto environment can and will tell you how it was the "abusive niggas" who are never seen without a girl. These guys are rarely single for longer periods of time and even if their abusive behavior leads to break ups they just keep hopping from one relationship to another long after their violent reputation has been known to other women. Don't you gaslight me with this "but bullies merely put down other guys while they treat their women as princesse…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:41 PM
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People willing to act unethically to get their way are more likely to get their way? Why is this surprising. Do you really think that bullies are tricking women into thinking they're delicate souls who wouldn't hurt a fly and help in the local puppy shelter?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:56 PM
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People fuck people they connect with. No connection, no fucking. Work on the connection LMAO. There are some men who cap out at 40 matches on Tinder. There are some men who get 0 matches on Tinder. There are men who women instantly have a "connection" or "chemistry" with by seeing them one time at coachella, there are men who can't get a single woman to see them as anything more than a platonic friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:39 PM
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Men who are bullies have more sex , more partners, than those who are/were bullied. Basically the opposite of what you're saying is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:35 PM
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looks were the limit in my case. as an asian guy I noticed there was no potential for attraction to grow if she wasn’t already not into my features. Women were either on the asian YES or total NOPE side of the fence when it came to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:15 PM
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Why do you think that only looks are the limit because the majority of people here claim that couples are "looksmatched", but also maintain that skinny women fit the conventional beauty ideal so their "looksmatch" is a conventionally attractive male which is broadly understood as a tall, build, athletic man ... But if I say I'm not exclusively into skinny women, and don't expect women with runway model proportions everyone is quick to remind me that chunky women are also "ideal" and therefore in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:40 PM
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what would a "looksmatch" be for a guy like me temporarily excluding status symbol stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:23 PM

What is the "looksmatch" of a slim 5'10 asian guy like myself? Just so I know if I have "unrealistic expectations",
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:45 AM
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you’re never competing with her peace, you’re competing with her prospects of having a fling/situationship with the hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:39 PM

improving like what? as much as there is talk about toxicity in chasing unrealistic ideals men are on the contrary constantly given the advice to “improve”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:30 PM
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i went to a humanities college with a 70/30 female to male ratio. The guys there were what women claim to want: well read, intelligent, basically they could discuss topics average dude bros consider “gay”. The women loved them as friends and not lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:23 PM
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your logic links unfuckability with a character flaw if not outright moral failure, basically regurgitating high school locker room mentality where men who fuck = winners, those who don't = virgin losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:45 PM
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they may not be “good” but this was never the reason why a man couldn’t get laid. Studies have show that abusive men, bullies, keep hoping from one relationship to another long after their notoriety is well known and you’re telling me these guys are getting meticulously filtered out because women can sense they might harbor some not so nice views about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:03 PM
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Continuing to try to engage when there’s a lack of CLEAR, ENTHUSIASTIC, and CONSISTENT reciprocal interest lol same people who also insist that inceIs are wrong for believing women are jumping Chads bones from the get-go, because attraction is complex and is influenced by several factors that can make it grow as you get to know the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:08 PM
2

Most people don't like feeling like just a random number. I'm asian and women seem to be either on the asian YES or NOPE side of the fence so even if I express interest in a aquaintance, or someone I know, I still get noped based on immutable traits as a lot of women just aren't into us at all. I am forced to move to the next girl and treat it as a "numbers" game because I keep getting filtered out as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:54 AM
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you have the privilege decide what counts as "appropriate" vs "inappropriate" approach because it already happens everywhere. Thats why this is a never ending and futile discussion. A lot of women will bitch and moan about "organic" paths of meeting too. For example just on reddit there are hundreds of threads and comments made by women who are saying how annoyed they are when just about every other male acquaintance (or even worse, a friend) ends up asking them out at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:45 AM
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either meet organically or through apps. cold approaches are "shallow" since women don't like to date "strangers" and want to meet "organically", yet somehow they have no problem swiping through dozens of men based on a 2D picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:24 AM
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Even tho face-card wise I'm not ugly, I know that as an asian guy 99% of western women don't have a thing for us. In fact, we don't even experience "he had grown onto me" type of attraction. Women are either on the asian men "YES" or complete and total "NOPE" side of the picket fence. Its like a whole new sexual orientation. So if a girl doesn't have a thing for asian men, its almost like as I were hitting on a straight dude hoping he changes his mind about dick. And before someone points out I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:46 AM
3

i thought you girbosses are making your own bank now?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:29 PM
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they're at 'different stages in life' because he's a single dad, not because he's 35. I have less in common with a single mother my exact age, than I do with 40 year old woman with no kids. And why do you people only bring this up when its age, when a similar arguments could made by basically anyone dating outside what society perceives is their class/in-group. Not long ago people questioned interfaith couples with "why couldn't you find a nice chruch gal who shares the same values as you?". My …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:25 PM
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what type of women go for men that age. I'm asian and look younger compared to white men my age so the younger women I attract think I'm their peer and are totally not the kind of women who are actively looking for someone older.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:02 PM
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i do think some women do want to date older guys, however these relationships tend to be tranactional the ageism among the terminally online is truly insane. You people make it sound 35 and 23 is like a playboy bunny getting married to a 80 year old Hugh Hefner or something, that people over 35 are just post-their-prime ghouls at that age. Are you telling me that the teacher crush (she was 41) I had was because she had "money" and not because of her hourglass figure and intellect?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:22 PM
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And I remember being 21 and approaching women my age and getting mocked and hurled racist slurs at because asians weren't their type. Are their preferences around age and race somehow reflective of us instead of their own tastes or prejudices?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:04 PM
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all these redditors asking "what could X year old possibly have in common with Y year old" would have never asked questions like "what could a moroccan possibly have in common with a bavarian?" which is funny when they consider a inability to relate to generational pop culture slop a fundamental incompatibility long term, but they're shitting bricks if someone used this same line of questioning with couples hailing from entirely different cultural/ethno-religious backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:37 PM

How is he going to obtain consent if not by approaching her, chatting her up, and asking whether or not she's interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:57 AM

Why do women consider a man approaching them and chatting them up as 'objectifying', but all of them have stories how they hooked up with some random dude they met on vacation?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:54 AM

all you had to do was form relationships with women as a kid to see how they are and learn how to talk to them. I was raised by women and was never anxious around them. I was raised not to sexualise conversations out of respect for them, and I too believed you had to just treat them as human beings and eventually something more might grow out of it. I couldn't be more wrong. There is nothing wrong with being liked by women platonically, but once you get the "one of the girls" label it will stick…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:27 PM
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YES, but only in a system of sexual differentiation like ours its possible to pull off mental gymnastics where a holiday dicking from a hot guy can be romanticized as "two humans sharing a intimate, even if brief, moment" while this same desire coming from ugly men gets framed as "pig who just want to stick his D into you".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:42 PM
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ugly guy who wants to hookup = pig, who sees women as nothing more than a piece of meat to stick his D in hot guy who wants to hookup = bold confident man unafraid to express his desires honestly and transparently
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:20 PM
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Because whats 'bold and confident' versus 'objectifying' is incredibly conditional. It's entirely based on a mans appearance or vibes that determine if he's allowed' to be flirty/sexual or not. A tall jacked handsome guy you've met on vacation can go as far as to talk how he'd love to smash 'jokingly'. Someone who is less attractive, short or fat can't even get away with merely saying you 'caught his eye' without coming across as borderline 'objectifying'. You're not allowed to express any kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:12 PM
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Women say they want to be seen as people first instead of a fleshlight, then why do they have hookups with randos while on vacation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:43 PM
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If I’m on vacation and the guy is hot I’ve gone straight to casual sex "women want to be seen as regular people first"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:20 AM
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women won't give any feedback because they they sort this type of stuff on a subconscious level. Hence why they always say "attraction is non negotiable". The great irony here is that women who claim they're annoyed when men treat them like "romantic prospects" instead of "rEgUlAr pEoPle" will turn every guy who doesn't do this into a 'bestie' adjunct and still sleep with the former type of guy. I experienced this as an asian guy growing up before k-pop/k-drama became a thing where women just di…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:01 AM
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"Start by seeing women as people and not objects" I don't even know what bluepillers mean by this, besides using it as a deflection tactic. Women are indeed people, regular people who like to fuck and make babies. Some of these people even use technology to hookup with strangers online they know nothing else about rather than they looked good on a profile pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:37 AM
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Guys like him are seen as "safe" for all the wrong reasons, that's why he gets treated as "one of the girls". His girl friends like him in a platonic way, because they assume he wont bother them with his "gross man sexuality" like other dudes end up doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:26 AM
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Honestly dude it, the signs of interest may be there, but you are more than likely missing them. what signs? Getting touchy feely? "Omg I just wanted to be nice to my guy bestie and it turns out he wants more! heckin can't make male friends without them wanting to get into your pants!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:22 AM
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yes dating apps are are a terrible way to meet women, so please stop telling men not to cold approach women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:58 PM
2

what if you find him attractive, but aren’t looking for anything in that moment (not even hookups) - what type of -zone is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:57 AM

Outside of TikTok rage bait- I haven’t seen anyone complaining. and outside reddit echochambers I had several female friends asking me if men "still approach women these days?" because it ain't happening to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:38 PM

charismatic man man whose attractiveness allowed for him to safely assume he is operating in the green light, whose passes were not met with rejection or ridicule. basically a check your privilege situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:16 AM
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Because women tell us they want 'bold and confident' not 'nice guys' tippy toeing around which is incredibly conditional. It's entirely based on your appearance or vibes that determine if you're "allowed" to be flirty/sexual or not. Tall jacked Chad can go as far as to talk how he loves anal "jokingly". Someone who is a short guy or more feminine looking or a fat guy can't even get away with merely saying a woman is attractive. You're not allowed to express any kind of sexuality or desire in tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:09 PM

Some people were never allowed to build experience, and now they're getting clowned on for their lack of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:22 PM
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“nice” can either mean “genuinely kind and considerate” or it can mean “conflict avoidant and performative appeasement.” A lot of women seem to be unable to tell the difference between either men, so they just avoid both of them. Often it also boils to looks: a big burly man who doesn't react to provocations is seen as composed and confident, by not responding he comes across as sure of himself and beyond it... on the other hand a skinny twerp who doesn't react to provocations is seen as letting…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:03 PM

Men are told women are not vendors they put in personality points and get rewards, but under the same breath that they're lonely and unsuccessful at attracting a partner because they're not a good person. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:16 AM

I don’t know who promised men that they are owed a woman All the psychology/media articles takes on "male loneliness" frame it through "just world" lenses and link romantic invisibility to men being unlikable, reactionary, alt-right Chuds with bad communication skills. They link romantic invisibility to a character flaw if not a outright moral failing, ironically prepetuating the winners = fuck stereotype simultaneously making it sound as if sex indeed is something women will give out to you if …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:34 AM
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We don't hate single moms, we just aren't in the same life stage as them even if we orbited the sun the same number of times. A single, 30something, childless guy ready build a life with someone is not in the same "life stage" as someone for whom little Timmy comes first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:06 PM

"just focus as collecting as many funkopops as possible bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:13 PM

Women on this sub do have a herd mentality and glaze neurotypical behavior so they will frame anyone who thinks differently as a 'socially inept autistic weirdo". If anything a lot of ND people are hyper reflexive about behavior.They're so observant with how people actually behave they develop anxieties over participating in this "dance" guided by "unspoken rules", because they're aware of the subtleties (halo effect, lookism) which influences "intuitive behavior".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 10:18 PM

women: "maybe if you weren't autistic you'd be socially attuned so you'd simply know how to read the room like normal people" also normal people: 41% of marriages end in divorce, thousands spent on years of therapy, xanax, marriage counseling, cheating, stalking, asking "why did he/she left me I gave him/her everything", wandering in the dark, ending up in substance abuse...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 10:10 PM
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many women nope a guy based on immutable traits like height or jawline.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:52 AM

"what could they possibly have in common" same question my grandma asked my uncle when he started dating a woman from morocco. If redditors think that a inability to share memes and pop culture references is "having nothing in common" then I'm interested what they'd think about interfaith couples hailing form entirely different ethno-religious backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:04 AM
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people froget why men then approach in bars, bus stops and even grocery stores. there is no other way of meeting women after a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:55 AM
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where are the single women between 24 - 30? Whenever I go out be it libraries, bookstores, bars the women there are either teens or grannies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:53 AM
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how is the woman "being lied to" when the guys rep as an abuser is well known in the community? ffs even guys serving time have a greater chance to be in a relationship than a autistic man who never broke the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:21 AM
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I disagree that it's an issue when you're 30. maybe in urban enviroments, in rural ones 30 might as well be 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:00 AM
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Never in your life have you ever chosen someone unattractive to you Here is the difference: I am attracted to to tall, slim women with legs for days, as well as short ones with thunder thighs who don't have the proportions or measurements of a runway model, I don't mind cellulite, stretch marks or saggy boobs. Hot women for me exist on a spectrum. However despite being quite open to a relatively wide range of types these women are almost never attracted to a short skinny dude like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:25 PM
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he’s only pointing out that women when ‘liberated’ given the freedom to choose will chose the same types of men the patriarchy privileges: tall, built, assertive, dominant😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:14 PM
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. Physical attraction matters. But on online dating apps, that’s about 80% of what you’re able to evaluate at first glance why is that when women 'evaluate' a guy on 'first glance' they just happen to have the exact same taste? Its basically tall, handsome, athletic. This is even less diverse than the male gaze where you at least have a split between ass or boobs guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:32 PM
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The thing with a lot of feminist 'critique' is their refusal to acknowledge that the incel/redpill/manosphere thing didn't explode in popularity when some groundbreaking gains in womens rights were made. The whole thing developed silmutaneusly when the dating app become popular which spilled a lot of uncomfortable truths about sexual attraction and dating dynamics. And while a lot of feminists still larp as they're fighting some Maiden's Tale dystopia in reality they are flocking right back to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:16 PM
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evrey msm psychology article rationalizing why men are involuntarily single. They either have shitty personalities, are old fashioned misogynists or didn’t evolve to be on board with progressive politic enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:50 PM

apparently, according to bluepillers, if you’re a genuinely good person women will have sex with you, so if you aren’t getting sex it just means you were never a good person to begin with. Its kinda like predestination.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:22 PM
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it crazy how cynical even the bluepillers are about this. Its "love conquers all" until they need to calculate their partners age/scan genetic material & income to a T to decide whether it is or isn't 'economical' or 'in their interest' long term because bad thing might happen along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:55 AM

White men fetishize asian women utterly patronizing and irrelevant given the fact that I was clearly talking about relationships that involve 2 consenting adults and you somehow frame it as if the asian woman is some passive object there taken by the huwhite man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:30 PM

Why do I see far more gymbros with a chubby/overweight girlfriend than I see fit gymgirls with a chubby/overweight boyfriend? Why do I see far more very short women date very tall guys, but rarely a short guy with a woman of the same height or taller than himself? Why do I see load of white male/asian female couples, but rarely ever a white woman dating an asian bro? Are you sure "female sexuality" is more inclusive of diversity?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:32 AM

I did, later on I became assertive and quite honest with my intent. They accused me of 'acting out of character' (hence I was supposed to play the harmless asexual guy, like all asians).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:30 PM

I had more women as friends than I had guy friends. They liked me as a close friend and confidant, but never saw me "that way" back.... not a single one of them experienced a "he had grown on me" type of attraction that comes with time. Women seemed to be either on the asian men YES or NOPE side of the picket fence. Its like a whole new sexuality was required. If a girl doesn't have a thing for asian men, its almost like as I were hitting on a straight guy hoping he changes his mind about dick. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:35 PM
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woman: “desire has nothing to do with morals it is non negotiable, silly inkwel” man: “can’t help but to find younger women hotter” also women: “ur bad person. have you tried being a good person and date people in your age bracket”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:20 PM
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you're already framing it as a binary. You're operating in the same structure I was describing "winners = fuck" "losers = unfuckable timid insecure inkwels"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:52 AM
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what video? link?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:49 AM
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the guys women tend to like are the same ones that patriarchy idolizes: strong, virile, dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:06 AM
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Why do you need to tell her this? I lied all my life. Of course I wouldn't lie about some life endangering shit like STD's, or something. But white little lies are necessary because of the world we live in. Women were raised and socialised into valuing experience and "alphaness" in men, many guys are forced to make up BS stories about their prowess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:04 AM
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"its our animalistic instinct" so is the urge to take away women's rights (a social construct).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:47 AM
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"45-yr-old dating a 19-yr-old" question why do redditors bring up age gaps as being unfeasible because the couple couldn't have anything "in common"? I mean you could easily say this for any interfaith/interracial couple "what could a muslim from morocco have anything in common with a catholic bavarian" as they hail from entirely different entho-religious backgrounds, if the inability to share generational meme references is a deal breaker lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:22 AM
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people are attracted to who they're attracted to and these tastes reflect the patriarchal standard...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:04 AM
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Only facts here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:20 AM
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yeah, but I'd rather be seen as fuckable yet not compatible long term than so disgusting they can't even entertain the thought of kissing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:42 PM
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“build a friendship first without expectations “ no expectations? At one point you will have to make a move and suggest you are interested in more upon which she can still say you already were building “expectations” around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:40 PM
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You're either attractive or you aren't. as an east asian guy women seem to be either on the asian men "YES" or "NOPE" side of the picket fence. It like it requires a whole new sexuality. So if a girl doesn't have a thing for asian men, its almost like as I were hitting on a straight guy hoping he changes his mind about dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:32 PM
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how did you not keep ending up in the friendzone? I'm east asian and women who loved me as a friend usually never "saw me that way" while the ones who were into me popped up in the most random of places and situations, 95% of the time as complete strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:06 PM
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verbalizing your thoughts and feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:05 PM
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he was saying that the woman would get upset and if he asked them to tell him what exactly was wrong they'd be even more annoyed, or how they'd hate it when he gave actual feedback/advice when they would be venting to him. I get that for normies “clear communication” is often a slogan, not a actual skill they develop, but these e jokers then pay thousands of $$$ on marriage and couple counseling and no.1 advice they get from therapists is "have you tried being more open and talking about your is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:22 PM
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we are moments away when “therapy” will just be telling overworked and burnt out poors they should just accept and learn to cope with misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:27 AM
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I don't think anything of them, but none of us have a reason to take their in the minority preferences and deem them as "normal" Guys liking guys is also a 'minority preference'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:13 PM
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can't disagree here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:50 PM
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If something is immoral, whose "morality" is this? If we're talking about relationships between consenting adults then majority of people also used to believe same sex relationships were inherently immoral even if they were legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:05 PM
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Not at all. But here the tendency is to use pseudo-therapeutic lingo to invalidate preferences of other women if they don't align with what they deem 'healthy' or 'normal'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:27 PM
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Your use of the word yapping is so clearly lacking in good faith as well. An absolutely cliched way of denigrating the point you're arguing against. They kind of state their opinion as universal, when they could just be projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:24 PM
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should a interracial couple also care what the white nationalist skinhead has to say about their relationship beside their partner? lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:52 PM
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men should listen to the woman who finds them attractive and is interested in building a life together with them. Not some random vocal busybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:23 PM
1

how does that happen? (hard mode: I'm not counting interest from sugar babes as valid, that's like hiring hookers).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:13 AM
1

what is the type of women you could attract?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:12 AM
1

harder to make friends, easier to meet women? How does that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:04 AM
2

where were the venues singles in their 30s could meet, date and hookup (excluding dating apps where most guys get laser-swiped left). If I go to a caffee, or bar they are full of college aged women, if I go to a festival, the same story ,if I go to a club its even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:38 PM
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In a metropolis being 35 is like 25, in a rural suburban area 35 might as well be 45.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:18 PM
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in plain words: a thicc nerdy brunette with thunder thighs and a fat ass will still be seen as attractive by many, men and women alike, despite not having modelesque proportions. She ain’t no Kate Moss, but for many she is ideal. Her short stocky brother however is seen as “meh”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:34 AM

As someone who was raised in a family full of women, that shit likely gets you friendzoned, even more so than typical bravado behavior. Yes you can talk with women, and you're so good at it they will consider you a close friend, a confidant, not like the other guys, because they can talk about anything with you, but you're also likely be seen in a completely asexual light, like a bestie of sorts... So unless my mug is that ugly, I kinda lean toward the theory that women on paper love the idea of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:57 PM

do then short women who are attracted to significantly taller men just have pedophilic fantasies about being the small one who is getting railed by a big daddy gorilla figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:33 PM

Its insane how the same progressive flock who, during the Obama years, were the most outspoken proponents of the "what goes on in the bedrooms of consenting adults is none of our heckin business" argument when we still had to fend off conservative busybodies are now the ones shaming, profiling and trying to remote-manage decisions of adults in age gap relationships. Wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:25 PM
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your 'single' probably implies a lack of a relationship, what you probably did was fucking around before you found yourself and settled down. These women had no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:43 PM
1

ok, elab. I'm all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:25 PM
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she kinda began backtracking immediately after she noticed I expected a hookup, she wasn't over her past relationship (she was celibate since it ended, and suicidal fora while). I think she probably just enjoyed non-committal flirting without expectations with me and I behaved as she would fall easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:20 PM
2

I never understood why someone would flirt the way I described, even get physical with someone, without attraction playing a role in it, especially from women who say they already receive unwanted attention and advances from men who misinterpret their friendliness as flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:04 PM
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I didn't put her on the spot to defend her flirting, I put her on the spot when she insisted that I misinterpreted said behavior as flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:00 PM
1

no.5. is an friendly acquaintance, I hung out with her that day for the first time. She quickly realized my intent was not platonic and said she isn't getting involved with me. So I paused and asked if I stop caressing her face and she said that if feels good and I should carry on. She even adjusted a pillow underneath my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:42 PM
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The one who'd grab my pec, hips, touch my lower tummy at parties invited me to hangout with her. So I behaved flirtatiously enough for her to get the hint I'm not treating it as 'just friends'. She noticed and warned me that she is "just looking for friends" and why do men 'have to turn things flirty'... so I asked her back "oh, so you touch all your male buddies like you did me?" She got frustrated immediately saying she was "stressed" that day and maintained I am the one projecting meaning on …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:29 PM
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the first one would scream at me for interpreting her behavior as anything more than platonic, and then keep giving me those looks whenever she saw me. She is also the one who I did no. 5. with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:04 PM
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this actually made me appreciate introverted and autistic women more. They are more frank with it, while the women in my examples were usually those the pseudo-spiritual artsy types who think flirting is this spontaneous cosmic dance without any goal or meaning - the only problem is one of these 'free spirits' had no problems reporting a guy to HR when during one the parties his hand went too low for her liking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:58 PM
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Yeah, she kept telling me about these encounters where she'd go to raves and men ended up trying to kiss or grope her (by pinching and rubbing my inner thigh to 'demonstrate' it bizarrely enough) and I told her, well if you're touchy with them as you are with me haven't you kinda learned a lesson here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:52 PM
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Yes, flirting as like prolonged eye contact, leaning in when talking, touchy behavior while joking is ambiguous. But I had a moment where one squeezed my hips and made a full body press on me in a club, when I wanted to pull her in for more she rejected and claimed I misread the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:07 PM
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guys who "don't have problems with women" are either married before they get into situations like this (hence why men who did marry early are absolutely shit at flirting if they get divorced and want to date again), and the "players" who have at least a few situations when they tried to escalate things and it backfired. Every "lady's man" I knew always left a trail of of women who absolutely despised how sexually assuming he behaved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:00 PM
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they weren't friends tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:54 PM
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the same people who say only a explicit, enthusiastic "YES" counts as consent 🥀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:53 PM
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read the OP again: I treat eye contact and a smile as ambiguous, her hands on my lower tummy or chest while she keeps pressing her face onto my shoulder, I assume she's is down for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:38 PM
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Did you outright ask them? They likely felt put on the spot and it might have felt like a rejection so they said they were just being nice even though they had some interest. I value direct and honest communication and one woman in that scenario did accuse me of treating interactions with a goal in mind, putting them on a spot, instead of just 'vibing' indefinitely to see if anything maybe ever 'happens' without any 'expectations' involved. While this makes sense from her pov, imagine a guy just…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:00 PM
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You're saying women did those things because they are attracted, separate from emotional availability or relationship intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:52 AM

it think it has to do with normies consuming pop psychology which is obsessed with compartmentalizing things into "normal" and "healthy" versus "abnormal" and "unhealthy", the thing is these things are often tainted ideologically and if you look it through a bit of a historical lense you quickly discover these guys would be probably be convinced same sex or interracial relationships are a "violation of laws of nature" if they lived 100 years ago, because the psychologists of that time treated it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:47 AM

If it's a man attracted to an older woman I assume it's a fetish The colloquial use of clinical/theraphy speak is why I can't take bluepillers seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:12 AM
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what are those hints? if she's already friends, chances are she the things you experience as "hints" is just platonic affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:25 PM
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what they list as "IOI's" is tame af. I had women interlace fingers with me, touch my pecs while I had lain in their lap, or place their hand on my lower tummy yet still claim they were just being friendly and that I'm misinterpreting bubbly behavior as flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:06 PM
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pretty much this, we should start hitting on the ones we like form the get-go.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:44 PM
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As far back as 5th grade I remember and unattractive overweight girl telling people she liked me and child me was horrified. in your attempt to relate to the "horrors" women face when uggos like them, you just come of as a lookist little misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:15 PM
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how did you flirt that was was different from just being platonic with any other guy friend? Because a lot of guys will think platonic affection is already flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:51 PM
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you're deflecting again...Samantha. Its about how one gets there, not whether it is the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:30 PM
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Has she been flirting/giving signs of interest or is it strictly platonic? I'd like to hear what, in your opinion, would count as flirtatious instead of just her being friendly in a platonic way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:25 PM
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Do you get physically touchy with them that goes beyond just friendly hugs, playful taps on the arm/shouders or fistbumps?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:16 PM
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that yuppie brainrot you posted has nothing to do with women struggling with romantic loneliness or invisibility. its about class anxieties over being seen with a partner that wont check the boxes of a high status male.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:15 AM
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why do you moral hysterics suggest?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:57 AM
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Samantha, you're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:57 PM
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women on reddit believe 25 year olds are barely adults because their brain has just finished developing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:48 PM
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You’ve said over and over that your female friends are unhygienic, mentally unwell, unstable in relationships. ...and?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:46 PM
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"these moids are taking care of themselves and develop meticulous skincare routines to trick gullible young women into thinking they're younger"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:21 PM
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"they heckin don't wanna end up like grandma" today western men are the most progressive and liberal men in the world (compared to some really patriarchal 3rd world shitholes even the edgiest redpillers subscribe to a rather modern view of gender) . You are not living in grandma's times. You're rationalizing your views which are a product of online brainrot, not a historical reality you're living it. You're rejecting the "shitty men" because they're nice and boring, and cannot compete with what …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:05 PM

why do women the moment they hit 30 like that particular look and nothing else?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 12:27 PM

I live in Europe and THE MAJORITY of people in their 30s live paycheck to paycheck in little rented flats owned by the government. Not some bigboy corporate wallstreert bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:19 AM

in a metropolis 35 is like 25, in a rural/suburban area its like 45.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:02 AM
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no, she is quite irreligious and I didn't even know she was of jewish descent until she told me about her family. She was very overweight her whole life and as I understood her she was one of the girls who was never considered pretty and just gave up on love and intimacy as it wasn't "her thing". She is visibly bothered by it tho, as the topic enters every convo we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:45 PM
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That's my whole point; the media narrative is juxtaposing the "happily single" woman next to the "seething incels" as evidence of how women handle singleness better than men, but we aren't talking about the same experience at all. One gets to fuck around and slide into old age reminiscing of the "glory days" the other speedruns into old age without ever experiencing the thrills of intimacy and romantic love. My neighbor is an example of a woman who never got it out of her system and became quite…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:13 PM
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no, her family were all educated an had kids quite late in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:54 PM
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I experienced all 3 of those as a guy. And I still ended up posting here💀 But your husband probably thinks (or thought) you're hot? No?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:51 PM
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the week women are ovulating they're attracted hyper masculine men, when its meh they need hyper masculine men to even get it going, and the hell no is always for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:11 PM
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"I'm just here to do X hobby/activity not to get hit on" is also a common retort. Gyms are already considered out of bounds even though they literally are CLUBS for ACTIVITIES.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:03 PM
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he was a nazi, but he was right about that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:41 AM
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then why do they write their comments in plural "Women dislike it when..." instead of "I personally dislike it when..." ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:31 AM

And women don’t? do they give it out his charity?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:18 PM

Eastern euro women aren't the gold diggers westerners made them out to be (I worked with a lot of them). They're actually less status obsessed than your average west coast, vogue reading, liberal woman who expects her man to be a woke feminist on one hand and on the other maintain a competitive rat race mentality, a prosperous career, and be passionate about it. The reason why an american dude would be popular in eastern europe is because what passes as normal maintenance for some urbanite in LA…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:58 AM
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I heard women despise this one too, they say "I hate when they start with small talk, because I just know he will drop the 'wanna grab a coffee sometime' at the end"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 09:08 AM
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Women want to be wanted for more than their looks. Do they follow this principle when they keep laser-swiping left based on a 2D picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:47 AM
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"I just wanted a heckin matcha latte not to be hit on"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:47 AM
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"By getting to know women in social settings so that she actually knows you before you ask her out." ...about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:33 AM
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no one mentioned models, you bring 'em in. What for?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:37 AM
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apparently "confidence" means whatever you make it out to be depending from which angle you want to own the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:23 AM
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For some reason redditors always frame the lonely guy wishing he had one (1) girl as the "entitled" one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:56 PM
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You can meet the love of your life at 50 or whatever and still be happy and plentiful. "it will happen one day" mentality is what brought us here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:17 PM
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it wont be when Im bald and wrinkled either
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:48 PM
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here itis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:32 PM
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“you cant just say “I’m a nice guy. I’m really lonely” so you can’t be vulnerable. got it. Just don’t be surprised so many young men are into stoic alphamaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:32 PM

that's kinda the point, in the 1990s they didn't at all go for fat chicks, and what followed? A slew of writing from academia to pop culture examining their unrealistic standards in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:29 AM

15 years ago east asian guys were considered nerdy asexual goofballs, but after years of south korean media exposure they're suddenly 'hawt' . So with women a lot of preferences are more of a herd mentality than a "hard wired" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:10 AM

a lot of fat girls get cracked by the gym bro so the weight and cellulite thing doesn't seem to be a deal breaker for fit men after all, but how many fat guys get cracked by a fitness chick? We are not witnessing the same phenomena here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:03 AM

these preferences don't exist in a vacuum tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:01 AM

I agree to an extent here, but its not the 2s that are complaining; but mid women. The really homely looking girls I knew in life felt self conscious when they realized that unlike most of their friends they never got approached on a girls night out. Not for relationships, and some of them not even for hookups at bars. And they craved to experience how it feels to be noticed romantically. They felt as if something was wrong with them and were frustrated about it, much like incel men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:56 PM

this type moralizing you hear coming from a person who unironically attends seedy s&m parties where people literally interact with one another as masturbatory props to satisfy each others fetishes , but its heckin wholesome since the 'social contract' allows it, is frankly wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:45 PM

they didn't interact with jack shit, they simply went to work or were sitting in a caffee. all three of them didn't get boyfriends via socializing with friends and getting introduced to a friends friend they got them because other dudes did what this sub says only weirdos do: cold approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:55 PM

the autistic one was working as a server where several men approached her there, the anxious one was approached at a cottage core theme night, the introverted one was cold approached in a caffe by some rando she gave a chance to now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:42 AM

Also, if you start dating a woman there is absolutely zero chance that she’s going to be cool with you doing your woodworking hobby five to ten hours per week. Kinda like the expectation to be "fit" but don't want a bodybuilder who counts calories and spends too much time in the gym, but their idea of "fit" is a body only achieved with careful nutrition and years of rigorous workouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:37 AM

the patriarchy quite on the contrary expects men to be leaders of their pack, assertive, confident and dominant, always networking and getting ahead. Basically what even progressive women here say single men should be doing to attract women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:33 AM

thanks for affirming what I tried to explain in the OP,
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:23 AM

if they can't shut up about the patriarchy, they can also address this one (hint: it intersects greatly with the first thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:10 AM

why is it expected from the man to make the move at the right time and the right place, carry the social interaction, keep her entertained and interested, and most importantly not come across as awkward while the woman sits in the back and lets the jester do his thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:07 AM

then women should address the very gendered way how it is expected mostly from men to be these socially savy extroverts with tons of connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:59 AM

wowza, who would have thought my shtiposting would have gotten me female stalkers by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:51 AM

Women have no problem being seen/or even used just as a "body". There is literally a meme going around right now where a nice guy says to his female friend hooking up with some douche bag "he only uses your body for sex" and the girl goes "I didn't invite him over for his personality either" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:44 PM

be bold and upfront with your intent from the go "ew you're treating women as romantic prospects maybe try talking to them as people first " talk to a woman like a person and then tell them you're interested "a nuisance trying to get in their pants when she just wanted to make friends" there is no correct way of doing it, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:35 PM
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you don't either, hence why you're projecting hard in this thread where OP had nothing to do with objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:32 PM
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ok then imagine a guy going wild in college - and ask yourself - how does he get there without making risky suggestions he wants to fuck instead of just being friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:27 PM

are women a monolith? how does one know revealing desire would be a problem at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:22 PM
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because you’re bringing irrelevant topic to the OP and you’re trying to put the blame of sexualisation on the gaze rather than the act itself. an ass that twerks infront of kids is still an ass that twerks in front of kids, indecent exposure, even if she claims she’s doing a “rain dance for the gods” and that the patriarchal laws “sexualised” meaning on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:16 PM

Presumably they were having sex with people who were consenting to that sex. and how does one supposed to get to that point without approaching, talking, flirting, making his or her intent known in order to garner whether there could be mutual interest for said thing? You dolts don't seem to realize the "demonization" part of a guys sexuality doesn't happen when he violates a woman's "NO". It happens way before any consent could be either given or denied - its in the mere act of taking a chance …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:38 PM
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because progressive women also claim you shouldn't "slutshame" them for having a wild phase in college where they had interest in sex without any emotional depth involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:04 PM

-the same people who don't believe in pills because "love is love" are also hardlining acceptable age brackets like its religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 11:54 AM
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she is 25, isn't the this thw age even the wokest say brain has sufficiently developed for a woman to be left to make her own decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:08 PM
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if he's turning to porn he isn't getting his needs met.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:15 PM
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The peasantry (and the lepers, and the other riffraff) need to know their place and stay in their lane. This is a social norm that neurotypical folks understand implicitly but appears to be completely foreign to the neurodivergent folks, so its like one of those "whites only" water fountains?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:36 PM
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on point as always, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:34 PM
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you are making the assumption that there is a correct way to approach and that cold approaching is inherently objectifying . listen, women who reject a guy that warm approaches are too making smash or pass judgment in the head based on how attracted they feel to his body. plenty of women hate the dreaded “I have to tell you something” moment coming from guys they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:59 AM

does it cause harm?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:08 PM

Applying market economy like logic on relationships has rotted our brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:25 PM

apparently many of them are willing to be a "situationship side piece" if they're hot enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:36 PM

the fat girl gets cracked by the gymbro far more often than the fat neckbeard gets to crack the fit girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:54 PM

Thoughts on Macron and Brigitte? BASED af, and unironically a healthier marriage than many age-appropriate neurotics who post here have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:31 PM

thats only if you believe that you need to whore around a bit to truly experience "youth".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:31 PM

used more fearmongering buzzwords than a 1980s republican on a campaign trail.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:29 PM

can we stop with this "maturity" bullshit. Which "big boy" roles are we obligated to fulfill? Are women over +30 immature if they stay child free, travel and have fun instead of fulfilling "mature" womanly roles like rearing children and tending the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:23 PM

"What goes on in the bedroom of consenting adults is none of your business but their own" is a concept you and the fundies seem to both get agitated by.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:13 PM

I did, it's in the body of my text.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:08 PM

I'm against judging age gap couples off the bat, like I stated in the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:06 PM

how do you know what's best? I don't. That's why I don't judge, silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:58 AM

Because you don't say anything to refute specifically. People are only rightfully pointing out that it's not in the best interest of the young person how do you know whats best, tho? Many parents though setting their gay son or lesbian daughter straight was in their "best interest" too. That's why conversion therapy was a thing for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:55 AM

but you just said you dated women half your age?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:52 AM

I'm only talking about adults while you're making arbitrary "cut-offs" of what you personally think is or isn't appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:52 AM

Do you really want to normalize 40 year olds hitting on 14 year olds? how many times would I have to write "adults" in the title for you to not bring kids into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:44 AM

Yikes Exactly. You only generalize about gap relationships because you're allowed to. Even though IPV statistics don't show they're any more abusive than other pairings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:38 AM

My issue with it is that problematizing age-gap relationships is sanctioned as a good thing to make generalizations of, but I can bring up some very nasty IPV statistics found among certain other couplings, but you wont ever see women, columnists ever bringing up those as "red flags".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:31 AM
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Would you rather be pegged by a man or be a virgin? Relevant question to the conversation. women confirming they don't even see unattractive men as real men in a heterosexual sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:46 AM
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you choose this trauma whenever you pick exciting badboys and friendzone the soft-spoken nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:37 PM
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Because men would literally fuck a tree with a hole? which is exactly my point on why "women happier single" claim is dishonest: when even the socially inept, smelly girls can get cracked while their male counterparts rot alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:24 PM
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from my small pool of quirky and weird women I grew up with it was usually like this: a sister and brother would be on the spectrum. They both would have smelled funky and said they can't shower that often due to sensory overload. The sis would still have suitors, and flings with several men, the brother was a involuntary virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:10 PM
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romantic intimacy, even if brief or sporadic, is a integral part of human experience. No amount of bungee jumping, cave exploration, or crazy roller coasters riding can really replace that yearning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:04 PM

these women are definitely feminist enough not to be trad themselves, but expect men to fulfill their gendered expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:53 AM

Where does feminist theory claim men have lost their balls? everything you see in the mainstream (on this topic) is influenced by feminist theory, maybe not some obscure gender-abolitionist radical one some bullydke is coming up with as her master thesis, but its evident that it is some form of "girlboss" feminism where women are addressed to liberate themselves from gender expectations while keeping a rather rigid gender expectations from the guys they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:53 AM

because this preference for "dominance" and "assertiveness" creates a expectation placed on all men and when millions of young boys are trying to live up to these masculine ideals women find attractive, a lot of them will go overboard with it, hence why mainstream media shits out so many takes on "toxic masculinity" while simultaneously claim that men have "lost their balls".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:18 AM

I actually have quite smooth skin and a head full of hair, but its to illustrate a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:46 AM
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"If your getting a reputation as "that guy", it's because you hit on all women in a social circle." I mean maybe a guy would stop if the first one said "Yes". What else is he supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:53 PM
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most of your male friends are open to hookup with you, so you're not exactly in danger for doing a move on them that would be unwanted, when a guy wants something more than friendship with a woman they usually get the "I don't see you that way" .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:51 PM
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you could do this by suggesting to grab a cup of coffee to a woman you saw in a bookshop. Not Becca's friend who will go "Omg Eugene asked me out, its so awkward seeing him now."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:00 PM
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the "hints" a lot of bluepillers think mean anything are along the lines "she laughed at your jokes bro" truisms that constantly get guys embarrassed and make women go "i can't heckin laugh at a good joke without a guy thinking I'm into him anymore"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:57 PM
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So every generation gets to fuck around until they learned what exactly? That hookups are bad? You might as well bring back religious indoctrination warning people of carnal sin if you sincerely believe what you say, instead of just allowing it for young adults and then shaming older ones for not realizing its a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:47 PM
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be a little wild before you get too old to do those things so going wild is something for cute young people to embellish in, but that 30 year old dude at the bar is a sex pest if he wants to hookup with a woman and isn't looking for anything serious? lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:31 PM
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these days there are a lot of men who were never considered "fun material".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:16 PM
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No, we're not taking responsibility for the abusive Chads you fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:07 PM
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she wasn't concerned about her "worth" when she was getting it on in college tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:12 AM
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we aren't discussing whether she can or cannot, or should + you haven't disproved anything I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 10:50 AM
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they don't necessarily have to be. It could be the shy introverted girl who went wild in college, but still gets upset when the average schmuck she was on a 3rd date with tried to turn things sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 10:13 AM
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women grow up to realize that superficial things like height don't mean much in the end. these days women don't have to "grow up" and realize "superficial things like height don't matter" anymore, they instead double down on the fact that there is no need to compromise on these ideals because they don't need men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:35 AM
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that particular woman is still touching me whenever the occasion arises, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:56 AM
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How is your example relevant here? because the guy you think is "ugly" in the relationship, is probably her looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:17 AM
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you are just possessed by current normative standards you accepted as common sense. If it were the 1950s you'd probably be listing me "good reasons" not to date outside your race or religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:13 AM
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. I see a lot of couples where the man is ugly. because you rate men juxtaposed to a specific ideal, compared to women. For example a tall blue eyed dude with chiseled face and a athletic physique is seen as attractive, so is his long legged blonde sister who for many will seem model-like. Now a short curvy woman with thicc thighs and a babyface will be seen as hot too, by men and women alike, despite not having the proportions a model, yet her stocky short brother will be rated as your "meh" gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:59 AM
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when they discovered women seem to have a height preference that excludes 85% of the male population, we aren't nearly as often addressed to deconstruct "unrealistic" beauty standards as we were 10-15 years ago lol .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:52 AM
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that is where I approached, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:41 AM
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Unlike Chad who expects to be sucked off just because he know you find him hot. That's boldness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:30 PM
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if you don't want to give out instructions then enjoy the trial-and-error runs hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:27 PM
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one woman's green light is another woman's just being her bubbly self. And considering the chicken leg comes from the side of the driver we can reasonably assume the meme is already conveying a scenario where two people are heading to or back from a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:55 PM
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can we please stop with this insipid shit called "stages of life" this sounds like something out of a 1950s mental hygiene video warning us of any deviancy where ones life doesn't progress in a linear fashion. I can already hear the narration "Carl is 30, single and a homosexual. While most of his peers are married and rearing children, Carl cruises the streets in search for kicks"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:19 PM
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lol no one needs to be mature for vibes and chemistry to happen. Do you people question short women prefering tall men for having pedo-adjenct fantasies of wanting to feel "small" when they get railed by a big daddy character?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 03:34 PM
4

why are you do hung up on who I find or don’t find attractive? How did you make this a you issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:04 PM

normal people: "shit just happens in life when you're well socially attuned, silly" also normal people: 41% of marriages end in divorce, years of therapy, xanax, marriage counseling, cheating, asking "why did he/she left me I gave him/her everything"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:59 PM
5

thats not how the average redditor defines "objectification" tho, even women here will say that objectification is when a guy approaches them without being friends or in the same social circle first because what apart from looks could intrigue him to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:56 AM
15

why are you lying? It literally says in my post you screenshotted that I find older women attractive and that they often have hangups that make them incompatible. And even if I didn’t? So what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:52 AM
6

its so bizarre when they simultaneously cry that the wall at 30 is a misogynist myth while simultaneously trying to push the idea men in their 30s are post their prime ghouls. Weird, says a lot of how hard they're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:42 PM
1

lol yet close family members commit most of the rape and abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:38 PM
2

I also approached them and give them a chance. But they couldn't shut up about their ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:27 PM
16

I tried. Can't force older women to like me just because reddit thinks they're "age appropriate".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:56 PM
-9

if she is fucked in the head, then 90% of women are ,beacuse they are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:55 PM
3

people here think someone in their 30s hitting on a 23 or even 25 year old is weird and predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:38 PM
5

so a portion of mens matches might be bots? This makes their match rate even lower than 2.63%😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:25 PM
-1

neither are dating apps…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:22 PM
8

women here have a habit of universalizing personal hang ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:15 PM
8

what "social responsibility" am I violating here? You're accusing me of doing something "wrong" when nothing has been done.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:55 PM
10

Dating apps are one hundred time better lol women have an average match rate of 30.7%, while men average just 2.63%
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:48 PM
9

Adult only clubs are for adults, Idk why the age limit if they are not to be treated as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:45 PM
9

Examples: friends of friends (most common by far), roomates, roomates of friends, hobby groups, sports, collegues (depending on type of job) etc hobby groups - "I'm just here to enjoy my hobby" sports - "I'm just here to play volleyball" friend of friends - "I'm tired of guy friends wanting to date me"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:44 PM
6

every abusive guy I know hops from one relationships to another. Idk why exactly do you think women have this inert "moral barometer" they'd use to filter out the bad guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:39 PM
12

Well where it is "least" bothersome? (hard mode: no dating apps)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:34 PM
11

I can't read your minds to know your preferences, and I can get rejected for all sorts of things that I'm not in control of: for example I'm east asian so I get told off based on that alone too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:31 PM
0

Hitler was invested in being the judge and jury of other peoples lives, which is a tad closer to what you busybodies do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:55 AM
1

essentially both of you are bashing someone for living their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:36 PM
4

"We all know it’s about him having money" Lol. I find some women in their late 30s and 40s hotter because they look hot in a mature kinda way that is distinct from someone in their 20s. Not because of the wealth they may have accumulated...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:32 PM
2

they always formulate this as a abuse/grooming -adjunct because they frame it as something you grow out of and the experience being a product "youthful naivety" rather than informed consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:10 PM
6

loser who is only impressive to someone much younger than him Why would he be a "loser" if he dated someone who is 22? At 22 you are already finishing college, working, you're not a teenager anymore. You seem to have no rational arguments outside "It wrong because I feel so" emotional reacting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:34 PM
9

“realizing age gap is gross” certain consensual relationships between adults are gross because you feel like they are? Weird, same was said about gays.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:21 PM
8

“maturity” just seems to be tied to a suburban “keeping up with the jonesess” mentality of getting ahead. Ofc anyone outside the box is a “heckin loser weirdo”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:15 PM
8

why even give these women voting rights of you think they’re that incapable of decision making?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:10 PM
11

youre projecting again, Samantha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:57 AM
32

as a guy who never had problems making women my friends and still got “I don’t see you that way’d” every time, I have a hard time believing it was because I couldn’t “emotionally connect and develop friendships”😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:02 PM
7

because people will see a couple and comment "what did this voluptuous beauty see in that plain out of shape man" and it will be just two fat people dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:41 PM
1

The way you describe "the x factor" just seems to start with the preposition that both guys are hot, but one is bad with words, the other is smooth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:01 PM
1

"the x factor" ? Are you shitting me? The whole show was based on finding people who could sing and then picking out those who had an attractive, marketable imagine on top of it. I mean the to-be-members of One Direction were literally hand picked by jurists who chose them based on how attractive they looked.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:52 PM
4

To many people were claiming that the creepy guy in that meme had akward body langugae, so I intentionally added that even with the same mannerisms, diction, wording women would still be upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:17 PM
6

maybe women should learn how to communicate properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:08 PM

I don't trust Tiktok as as a credible source on general opinion when its evident that it thrives on ragebait content. The takes there are framed in order to bait and produce engagement rather than rational discussion. And even if the majority unironically believes in the insipid shit they post... well, most people were against same-sex marriage 20 years ago and thought gays were weird and their relationships gross (like age gaps it was considered "technically legal" but immoral by most people) .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:49 PM

"on tiktok" Lol. This is like going on stormfront.com and say that the vast majority of americans condemn interracial relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:30 PM

this 👆 If she can get "groomed" by a 30 year old guy to sleep with him, I don't want to even imagine what a fascist demagogue would do🤣🤣.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:27 AM

"get something of value in return" "the young person is always making a sacrifice" stop looking at attraction, love and relationships through the prism of business exchange or prostitution rackets. Seek therapy, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:48 AM

the thing is you kinda mirror each other in a way: they say women are children in a ontological sense, you rebuff that with the claim they are equal and capable adults in everything (from driving, voting, going nude on onlyfans, contractual work, intellectually...) but are children in need of remote-managed-guidance when it comes to the men they choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:39 AM

you sound like a former sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:35 AM

what are some big boy interests serious mature men like yourself have grown to appreciate, sir?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:29 AM

"what the hell does my friend (22) even have in common with a girl (18) who just got out of high school?" If for americans "having nothing in common" is growing up with different memes and pop culture references I don't know how you guys would handle a morroccan muslim dating a bavarian catholic when they hail from completely different ethnic, cultural and religious backgrounds lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:20 AM

You could spin this question right back at interfaith/interracial couples the way my grandma did when my uncle brought home his morroccan girlfriend to a family christmas gathering: "what could you possibly have in common with a muslim woman?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:38 AM

Its so bizarre how the media keeps asking themselves why young boys are turning to Andrew Take and redpill gurus , but never really question what the driving force behind this desire to larp as an alpha male could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:53 PM
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Do you like flat chested women with no hips? Why exactly are you linking a man being soft-spoken, tender and attending therapy with these physical characteristics in a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:47 PM

The core part of fantasy is that he likes her and he just happens to be is tall, white, rich and dominant 95% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:39 PM

at this point you are coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:31 PM
17

100% comparable. Women fantasizing about getting railed by a big dominant dady-like figure while he calls her a "good girl" is just the role-reversal of the same pedophilic inclinations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:17 PM
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why is it supposed to be like that? Why is he supposed to be a dominant alpha type if women are against toxic masculinity? Why can't they enjoy fantasy involving a tender, soft-spoken man who attends therapy and helps in the animal shelter?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:14 PM

you said a whole lotta nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 10:37 AM

i had a similiar experience, but I'm asian so they were wired to put me into the "asexual goofball" zone before Kpop became a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 06:43 AM

the implication women and bluepillers do here is that you shouldn't approach women as potential dating/romantic prospects at the beggining, but then they get almost equally mad when a guy friend starts making moves on them and call him a spineless nice guy who didn't have the balls to say he wanted to fuck from the get-go
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:56 PM
9

"it isn't that difficult teehee" Say you're at a womans place. You don't know what you are yet. Kinda friends, she seems flirty, but it could just be her bubbly persona. You get on the couch, you sit close and she laughs at your silly jokes and touches your arm during it (could be flirting, but she might just a touchy feely sort). You start caressing her hair, and neck playfully - she reminds you that she doesn't want to get involved and just be friends so you ask "Ok, you don't like this? Do I …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:18 PM
21

this gendered expectation women have around men is what fuels what they ten call “toxic masculinity”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:20 PM
10

its over for introverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:19 PM
18

basically self assured extroverted men who dominate but are gentle to her. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:11 PM
25

we’re never gonna defeat toxic masculinity as long as women will expect men to act like smooth-talking-babdboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:08 PM
10

they espouse it here all the time, and we all know its a relationship/sex/dating sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:25 PM
12

"women absolutely tolerate autistic guys as long as they know their place"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:07 PM
3

not when the whole social media gets involved to publicly shame the socially inept guy who made the girl feel awkward, rather than just the recipient of an advance lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:34 PM
1

if thigh touching can be passed as just friendly …Imagine a guy rubbing a womans thigh and then backpedaling “omg im just a bubbly guy” if she called him out. Everyone would say he’s a creep trying to gaslight her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:52 AM
6

got that one look, a prolonged lingering one, where the smile reached her eyes whenever she saw me - apparently she just liked me as a person and never saw me that way at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:56 AM
1

what is friendly touchy feely? i saw it range from hugs and arm touches, to touching my thigh, hips and squeezing my chest.🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:54 AM
3

typing on my iphone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:56 PM
3

we are all looking for “intent” behind behaviors and point is a prime example that is confusing and follows no clear logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:26 PM
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I don’t know what it is on reddit that they have a really black and white perceptions when it comes to this. They believe in things slike “if she laughs at your joke and touches your arm she is into you” have they never met a bubbly touchy feely woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:46 PM
5

“just learn to read our minds”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:18 PM
2

springbrake extroverted sluts, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:05 PM
1

the girl moment she did there was to claim its about finding “genuine” interest by spiraling in a never ending picking apart of ones looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:25 PM
5

you got literally refuted by two women giving you even more banal examples of what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 04:53 PM
-5

why do women even ask each other this? Are they all expecting to date a 6ft+ hunk with a chiseled jaw?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:51 PM

“it will happen when you will stop looking” and he wakes up a 40 year old virgin. People who give this advice should be put on trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:58 PM
6

women have sex with abusers and murderers. how is it “good” if the quiet introverted guy gets weeded out in favor of the former?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:16 PM
3

Did the attention change toward you when you lost weight and gained muscle? If so how, and why do you think it still isn't enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:33 AM
25

the average woman is a overweight netflix&chill chungus, why are there herculean standards in terms of physical fitness expected from men here exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:29 AM
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the thing is I am not adressing your argument. I am addressing a very mainstream argument women make all the time here: which is never "get jacked so you'll be bigger than the next guy" and always "take showers and make sure you smell and dress nice".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:16 AM

rent free my dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:47 AM
12

It was a hall with lounge seats and tables on the flanks along the dance floor. jesus, redditors really are sheltered neurotics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:46 AM
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I think dressing and grooming is more important for men as a perceived proxy for mental health and basic discipline So you basically go from "ew get away from me" to "I just don't see you that way" reactions from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:40 AM
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Do people ever get annoyed at how much you stare at them I worked behind the counter in a very busy venue, that was kinda my job to have my eyes on the customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:16 AM

You're probably a introverted woman who thinks "sending clear flirting signals" is when you touch his arm or laugh at his joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:10 AM

what actions I was literally groped lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:56 PM

you prob has sex with fat poly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:04 PM

Why are you obsessed with me? Yes I know I'm a cute asian guy, but please take it to my dm's next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:46 PM
9

yet the clowning on/threat profiling men trying to approach and find a partner has never been more normalized lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:32 PM

I'm a misandrist and want a matriarchy. wow, careful you don't cut yourself on that edge and catch gangrene.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:51 AM

it boggles the progressive/liberal mind that most of these "reactionary" opinions are coming from poc men. But I think these guys are merely reacting to a phenomena where women expect men will line up and vote to protect feminist/egalitarian gains while being Ok with a law-of-the-jungle when it comes to sexual selection lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:37 AM

its because women adhere to racist tropes much more than men. An east asian brother and sister living in the west: the sister is short, skinny and usually far less curvy than a latin or white woman, but she is still seen as attractive by many, women and men alike. Now her brother, also lees bulk than the the average white dude and his appeal is immediately limited and is seen as "meh" by majority of (even other asian) women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:26 AM

yeah, and? Anyone can be a dog on the internet lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:22 AM
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Instead of adapting to a more complex, egalitarian reality, What "egalitarian reality"? Its not like these guys are foaming over women having the ability to vote and open bank accounts. They see women being free and flocking to the same top % of men who ironically fit the patriarchal ideals the most: masculine, dominant, extroverted.. All the yap about needing to fight "toxic masculintiy" seems like a sham when confronted with a endless list of "icks" a woman gets over a man doing innocuous slig…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:29 PM
0

what a cruel bitch, she probably wasn't intentionally emasculating you tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:36 AM
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this is absolute bs not even women believe in. The women who sleep with these players aren't getting "conned" by anyone. The fuccbois and ballers will keep bouncing from one girl to another long after their notoriety is known and established with no detriment in their appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:08 PM
2

That may not be the point of your post, but it will be its side product. If you go on dating apps where things already tip on the causal side the roster dynamic is already there. In you post you mention that "Loneliness comes from lack of connection, not from lack of a marriage certificate." - what difference does this make for the man who in a casual setting can't get his foot through the door, because women are too busy taking turns with a minority of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:52 AM
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how do average ass looking dudes even get into such "low-Attachment FWB" things? If its just "fun and sex" then I see no reason why women wouldn't share a single hot guy. He fucks Samantha on monday, has Barbra on wednesday or friday and Jessican on the weekends. You get 1 guy having 3 women on a roster.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:50 PM
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I never understood what kind of logic they are using when they say men aren't picky enough - do women on dating apps know whether you swiped right on 3 or 30 women? If you aren't getting matches at all how would you be getting them if you swiped even less?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:41 PM
7

This sounds great. But how does a average looking guy even get this "low-Attachment FWB" thing when 3 women can easily do it with one hot guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:35 PM
2

I find it hilarious when touchy feely women at parties would do this performative flirty thing like dancing inches from some guys face and then guy goes in for a kiss and she recoils in fear as if it was something completely uncalled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:32 PM
2

People don't just fall into dates with one another. It takes one person asking "Hey are you free friday to hit up this bakery I found" women do 1 on 1 hangouts with their bestie male buddies constantly. Then the guy starts acting all whimsical and flirty because, like you here, thinks her agreeing to this kind of meetup means something more while she thinks all men are after one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:19 PM
2

let me guess he’s tall and white
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:46 PM
3

She is close with my bro. I know her through him. She got tipsy at parties. She would randomly get all handsy (hugging and hanging on me while rubbing my pecs, lower tummy, squeezing my hips). I asked bro if she's like this with him (I was still giving the benefit of her bing a naturally bubbly type). He said she never was like that. A month after these things happened, they happend again at a different work related party. One day we agreed to "hang out". At her place l intentionally flirt back …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:37 PM
2

what skill was I missing? I got groped she said she was just being her bubbly self.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:03 PM
3

what is "blatantly obvious"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:19 PM
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A lot of women want to hang out and see if it goes anywhere, because they believe it will "just" happen "organically" if its "meant to". They thrive on plausible deniability and hate "what are we?" questions that put them in a YES/NO spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:00 PM
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Women flirt by putting themselves in the proximity of you. they do exactly this when they just want to be friends too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:42 AM
13

Many men who aren't head-turning-Chads are in relationships, I was kinda talking about those if you cared to read past the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:40 AM
7

Waffling around in a friend-zone like stage hoping someone falls in love with you eventually rarely works. Chasing someone also rarely works. So nothing works for the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:39 AM
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thats the catch: she seemed overt, touchy, squeezed my pec and pulled me close to herself, held her hand on my lower tummy and still insisted she only wanted to be friends. One girls groping is another ones "just being nice" I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:36 AM
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what is are these "obvious hints" you redpillers keep talking about? Last time I read "obvious signs she wants the D" were "eye contact" or "touching your arm while talking" lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:24 AM
8

what counts as "obvious"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:21 AM

The pedo women are attracted to high school jocks (aka Chads-in-the-making), their victims are never scrawny nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:25 AM

So if all women are attracted to the same things, then all women must be paedophiles. Those women are rarely caught molesting prepubescent boys they get caught grooming high school jocks and quarterbacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:21 AM

get a fat girl in one of those baloon popping dating shows and among 10 guys there are always some bros who are willing to give her a chance, or even state it as a preference. Now when they throw a chubby short dude infront of 10 women and they usually all pop their baloons the moment he walks in LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:17 AM

the "ugly fat friend" has fat/skinny men after her, but wants the same tall&fit guy as her beach blonde barbie girl friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:11 AM

"people have different standards" Women don't lol. They share the same standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:13 AM
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Every woman being different and having varying tastes does not mean that every man no matter what can be seen as attractive. Every man? The majority (of men their age) aren't seen as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:04 PM
4

because what you have in mind as "feminine man" is like a guy saying he's into "masculine women" but instead of chicks built like a football quarterback he'd be thinking of Avril Lavigne in her skater boy era.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:59 PM
7

I know you're trying to say that "if you we're really a Chad behavior wouldn't put her off", but a while ago some black dude was explaining the same phenomena: how he can attract white women who are into black guys, but when these women discovered he is a nerdy goofball who likes theater and not a nonchalant "ayo-type-shit" street-smarts they get turned off because his looks don't correlate with the expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 12:12 PM
5

Im the wrong race.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:49 AM
12

I look dark triad (tall, dark haired, sharp cheekbones, hooded eyes) but when women realize I'm just a neurotic dork they get bored asap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:34 AM

if you get drunk and fuck a kid no one is going to believe you aren’t a pedo just because you drank too much 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:48 PM
2

“im just not into you” - thats the phenomena: women say they care about personality but most of them behave like you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:05 PM
2

its not, but if women claim to value personality and getting to know a guy first they’d hookup far more with their guy friends than randos they meet off dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:37 AM
6

"They need to feel safe and be friends first" - but they use guy friends to vent about strangers they fucked off dating apps or hooked up on a vacation with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:19 AM

While the dudes in here are crying, women dont want them, women of all shapes and sizes are out living their best lives. kinda proves the "men will fuck anything" line doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:53 AM

. I already mentioned a few before, like breasts, butt, hips, etc. Those aren’t choices either, there is no study that would show anything comparable to how women filter out based on height alone. There is no "89.53% of men would reject a woman for having A-cups" but keep "bothsiding" the topic kiddo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:51 AM

being a fat is a choice, not a immutable trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:43 AM

you can gain or lose weight, this is such a bad comparison. And its not like fat women struggle to attract anyone at all (as it is whith short dudes often) even on pdd fatties complain that they're attracting chubby-chasing gymbros.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:31 AM
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doing innocuous feninine things that used to get a guy labeled a “fag” now gives women the “ick”😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:54 PM
24

you’re a redditor. you’re special.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:50 PM
6

At the end of the day its about exhibiting dominance and extroversion. Alpha traits. No way around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 08:50 PM

girls that age are afraid of gross older men hitting on them let alone intentionally leading them on lol keep the coping
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:00 AM

Are you implying I dress in anime memorabilia?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:12 AM

spare me the moral outrage and please stick to the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:54 AM

yeah, people here misuse the term "feminine man" when its just a slim dude with high cheekbones and floppy hair. Its would be like calling Avril Lavigne in her skater boy phase a "masculine woman" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:47 AM

What social cue did I not I get here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:40 AM
0

that's not the self-improvement women claim to care about the most. last thread about this was women claiming "gymbros is for the male gaze men have no idea what women want"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:19 PM
2

what are you trying to say, that the touches I listed go beyond platonic?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:26 AM

because most straight men and women overrate women. Classic examples are overweight couples where people think "omg what did this voluptous thicc queen see in that out of shape man" but objectively its just two fat fucks dating. Or a skinny couple: the chick is seen as petite the guy is merely "scrawny".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:59 AM
3

only because she kept framing her behavior as platonic. If she said “ok was drunk and couldn’t resist touching your bod” I would be cool with it even if she wanted nothing more beyond that, but she tried to gaslight me “omg Im such a bubbly affectionate person with all people”(she is not because my brother is good friends with her) so I pulled the “If I touched a female coworker like you didi me would it fly as platonic at HR?” and she ran away in tears. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:38 PM
2

he’s pissed off she wasn’t up for sex so quickly, so now he’s punishing her and trying to pretend it’s her being inappropriate both are true. I wanted sex, and she was the one who started getting handsy with me first, without ever asking me for consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:20 PM
2

What are you trying to say. What did she deny it to be anything but platonic?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 05:44 PM
2

what if it were a straight guy friend you knew had the hots for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 05:06 PM
2

what if he lied in your lap and started caressing your face and neck?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 04:48 PM
2

what touches would cross into non-platonic territory if you are otherwise a touchy feely woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:42 PM
2

touching hands can be friendly, what about interlacing fingers?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:40 PM
2

teachers & educators
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:38 PM
2

to her it was a friendly meetup - at least that’s what she claims - which to me was confusing because of all the touching going on. She said Im “rushing things” and treating her as an “objective” she said she isn’t going to get entangled with me. Now she stares at me at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:29 PM
2

I want to hear from a touchy feely woman where or where wont they (generally) touch a guy if they’re platonic vs. feeling attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:21 PM
2

she hangs out with my brother like this too (minus the touching)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:19 PM
2

yeah it was a “friendly meet up” between coworkers. She is friends with my bro. I somehow ended up laying in her lap and caressing her hair and face (she was sober tho) and she warned me about behaving all intimate so I asked if I stop caressing to which she said no, because it “feels sooo good” she even adjusted a pillow under my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:11 PM
3

I guess for poly people squeezing a guys pec and brushing your hand against the waistline of his pants is also "platonic".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:21 PM
1

She wasn't standing close, she made a full-front body press by pulling me close with her hands around my lower back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:13 PM
4

At work, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:04 PM
2

I didn’t mention this in my post, but in my case high-school was where I didn’t get friendzoned that way at all. If a girl liked to hang out and was getting touchy with me , it meant she liked me as a friend and at the very least someone to fool around with. Now in college it was completely different: I experienced a similar touchy/playful banter on the girls part only that it usually ended in a complete rejection, not once but several times in a row with different women. It confused the fuck ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:05 PM
22

Women would say I'm great and such a good guy, but there was clearly something missing in terms of their attraction, desire, and excitement. Not only this, I got the feeling I was "liked" as long as I stayed in "my place", that is: so far in the friendzone I ceased to exist as a straight guy and women would just talk about hot guys and their "mistakes" infront of you like you were one of them. Sounds petty, I know, but for a guy this was deeply emasculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 05:50 PM
4

all of that sounds tiring when you have methheads on the dole, having more girlfriends than a university educated middle class incel men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 03:19 PM
5

it think you’re projecting “insincere” motives on guys you didn’t find physically attractive, but had to reject without seeming shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:29 PM
3

the she needs to leave instead of eyeball and smile at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:21 PM
1

how do your guy friends ask you out and how often does it look like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 01:56 PM
0

ask the women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 01:39 PM
2

why are you filling up gaps with made up shit you keep pulling out of your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:59 AM
2

a woman once demonstrated how frightened she was when a creep at a rave party pulled her head toward him and tried to kiss her - by grabbing my head and “demonstrating” it (we were mere acquaintances)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:41 AM
8

What stimulates and attracts me is first a level of physical attraction, and then simple convo about knowing the other person, How would a guy know whether he is attractive physically to the said woman through a normal convo where friendliness could easily get misinterpreted as interest. This is how "nice guy" situations get created. Ok, so he doesn't flirt out of a concern it looks "shallow" and "performative" and instead has a deep-ass convo with a woman and the whole time she eagerly engages …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:26 AM

the crazy part is that a guy who fucked a girl in a social circle, would have a greater chance fucking her friend too, and another one after that. His appeal would only grow. If a guy who didn't sleep with any girl at all asked 1 girl out politely and got rejected, he'd get rejected by others too and eventually get seen as being "that guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:26 AM
1

you don't love it, you are seething, and foaming as we speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 12:05 AM
5

women can smell bitter nice guys through the air, or internet, but somehow can't detect abusers and narcissists ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:04 PM
6

a psychically attractive, but autistic man, will have harder time attracting a woman to sleep with him than a street smart criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:03 PM
3

there are sick women out there who like sic, twisted men most women claim to have dated a abusive, narcissist, jerk in the past which suggests most women are sick in the head (by your logic).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:02 PM
6

what often makes autistic men not attractive to women is that they're soft, non-confrontational, and kinda meager criminals in general are more confident, independent, stronger, tougher and very secure in themselves Lol I guess toxic masculinity is here to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:55 PM
3

"she grabbed me by the hips, pulled me close and squeezed my pec" "she was being nice inkwel stop reading too much into it, a truly experienced man would know she was just being polite"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:05 PM
5

“desperate guy” = unattractive incarcerated guy = interesting badboy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:43 PM
3

just get a desperate lonely guy and he’ll be locked down as well, no need for prison cells, oh wait, then it’s a turn off…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:20 PM

🤣👆💯
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:49 PM
2

i happen to have a life outside reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:41 PM
6

true, but I worked in a “safe house” for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:17 PM
17

that in the eyes of women they make a less attractive partner than wife beaters and serial killers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:30 PM
6

They like men who put everyone "in their place" until he is putting her in her place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:29 PM

i don't think you understood the predicament: I did take her behavior as suggestive it was her who maintained she was just being platonic the whole time. That's why I pointed out at a double standard. If she admitted she touched me because she finds me hot or whatever, eve if she doesn't want anything, I'd be cool with it, it was the "oh I'm just a bubbly friendly person why do guys take it as a come on" BS that I could not stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 11:21 AM

this. I only called out her "I'm just being friendy" bs by pointing out her behavior would never fly as "platonic" if a guy did it to a female coworker.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 10:25 AM

no, she maintained she was being "platonic" the whole time and that I'm "imagining it" and that I was being cruel for expecting her to behave like a "robot" around me. In her mind she could touch my hips, lower tummy, hands it would be called "platonic affection" .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:59 AM

at the team building parties she was. Not in her apartament that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:55 AM

You are wrong, debate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:52 AM

why? because I pointed out a double standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:50 AM

What exactly did she gaslight you about? that she was just being her "platonically affectionate bubbly self", then I asked her if It would be considered "platonically affectionate" if I did those moves on a female colleague of ours and all shit broke loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:49 AM

I wasn't drunk at her apartment, we just had coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:47 AM

because what she did happened at a team building party, and then she tried to gaslight me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:39 AM

she maintained she was "just being friendly" and that I'm cruel for expecting her to behave like a "robot".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:36 AM

Do you never hang out with people of the opposite sex without having sex in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:31 AM

I think deep down she is aware of this since she couldn't stop talking about how gross and inappropriate it was when men tried to touch and kiss her at parties - the mind boggling part is that she did a somewhat similar shit to me when she was drunk and then frame it as innocent. In part she probably is this way because all her life she as an attractive woman got away with sexually suggestive behavior and didn't expect someone pointing this out to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:25 AM

oh she invited me to hang out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:15 AM

its called a double standard here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:08 AM

I don't think she got rejected, since she insisted it "doesn't mean anything" maybe in some older women's heads groping a drunk younger dude really is a form of platonic motherly love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:06 AM

I'd never report a woman to HR over a thing like this, but I did enjoy calling out her BS and watching her recoil.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:04 AM
1

I don't think so, because she accused me of being a aloof guy (for not responding to her texts unless its a meet up) , not easy to read and eventually "a jerk after sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:34 PM
1

she invited me for coffee at her place, even when I suggested we should probably meet at a bar. When I was there she laid on the couch and told me to make it. So I got "comfortable".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:32 PM
1

this is fucking insane. I have a coworker like this who groped me at a team building party, while I was really drunk. I kept letting her do it and one day just dropped at her apartment behaving as if I'm there expecting a hookup, things got awkward with her and she started framing the whole thing as a "misunderstanding" and trying to explain her squeezing my waist, pecs and thigh as her being "a bubbly touchy feely theater kid" - so I flipped the script on her and asked "so if I touch Jessica th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:32 PM
6

If she was tall, built like a line backer let me get this straight; it only takes for a guy to be in "meh" that he is not tall but for a woman to be unattractive she has to be built like a line backer with a prominent brow ridge? She has to be a literal outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 06:19 AM
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they don’t even need to be the same height: she could be 5’1 and he would be 5’6, yet still considered short by majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:24 PM
0

all of the things you listed in the first paragraph happened - and she still claimed she was just being friendly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 06:45 PM
7

Im a guy who gains fat around abdomen, I don’t develop a dadbod by gaining weight so I rather just stay slim, why cant an all-gut-no-ass woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 06:18 PM
2

she’s 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 06:11 PM
1

so holding hands was a pretty sure fire sign of attraction in your case?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 04:59 PM
1

what do you think women clock as “sexually charismatic”? I have a similar issue, they like me from afar, but then realize Im just a goofy uncharismatic guy with high cheekbones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 04:35 PM
2

women consider you good looking, yet undatable for what reasons? Do you get compliments, how do they reject you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 04:21 PM
7

The same luxury isn't afforded to men, who, at some point, are expected to make a move I read some french psychoanalytical discourse that described this as a unspoken cultural demand placed solely on men: the man has no real way of knowing what goes in a woman's mind thus making a pass at a woman can never be done in a completely correct way as it involves taking the risk to expose oneself and their romantic interest in a person who then might find it unwanted, ie, consider it inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 04:18 PM
1

I have all of those 5. points (except kissing, she groped me tho) and she still claimed she was being platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 03:14 PM
6

is that why they unironically believe these things "happen organically" because from their perspective its just a "stars aligning" type of moment instead of one having to read cues, making moves, take steps, pursue?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:44 PM
1

Wink and/or lick her lips - check she winked Rub her breasts all over you - check did it intentionally while we danced Hold your hand and/or arm - check interlaced fingers, squeezed my pec Literally say "You're so handsome", - check even better called me "sexy" Give unsolicited gifts - check bought me a new woolen knit sweater Make kiss-faces - check did it an inch from my face she still maintains she was just being friendly lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:19 PM
8

if regular everyday people are so good at interpreting signals why do workplaces need to constantly re-draw rules about what is or isn't inappropriate/harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:13 PM
2

no one can do that, not even women. Even studies suggest people generally are shit at interpreting signals correctly. People either devolve into wishful thinking "that girl 10 years ago twirled her hair and laughed at my joke she was totally into me bro" or women saying "I said hi to my gym crush, but he never approached me :(" on the other side its women "why does smiling at a man get them to interpret it as a come on sheesh"...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:06 PM
-6

bubbly women allow that when you’re friends with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:02 PM

There's this whole thing, women being attracted to so-called "rat-men" Women call "rat-like" anything that isn't a square jawed hunky white guy . Its a completely useless term applied to good looking guys who just may have ethnic features that are thought of as "rat-like".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:45 PM
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imagine two siblings: the guy is tall, athletic, blue eyed and blonde, his sister is tall, slender and also have blue eyes and is a blonde. They both will be considered attractive, even model- like. now imagine another two siblings: this time the girl is short, has thunder thighs, a fat ass and bamby brown eyes. She is still seen as beautiful by many, men and women alike, despite not looking anywhere near like a model. Her stocky short brother is seen as "meh" by women. simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:40 PM
0

none of these examples are talking about character tho
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:05 PM
0

everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:20 PM
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reminds me of when women say they don’t like to be approached or pursued because these things will organically develop if they’re mean to — but when someone they like makes a move on them they will basically think of it as a stars aligning moment instead of a matter of attraction even though the hot guy got it planned in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:00 PM
20

why don’t women understand this tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:17 PM
-1

how are they different if they like the same tall, broad shouldered athletic dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:28 PM
5

if half women are bisexual then why is height in a man such a big thing for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:23 PM
12

they all seem to prefer manly classically masculine men. So if you're a guy doesn't fit that exact mold, you will have a harder time attracting them than you would a younger woman. (I'm east asian and this alone seems to nuke my chances with older milenial women)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:25 PM
3

I know a woman who gropes guys she is friends with, but when they take it as interest she goes "omg why can't I make guy friends, do they all want one thing?" - she is fucking 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:14 PM
2

probably the fuccbois women picked over the nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:29 PM
-5

diseased puritan culture you millennials brought upon us is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:28 PM
4

and a love story many women identified with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:23 PM
2

What woman in her 40s is still hung up on some guy from her 20s? This reads like yet another revenge fantasy. Reads like Titanic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:20 PM
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lol if you don't find them attractive you're a misogynist who believes in "the wall" and if you do find them attractive you're "fetishizing" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:19 PM
-3

I wish they were, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:56 PM
1

you're croatian? Then of course liking anything else than a big burly 6ft+ guy with a buzzcut is seen as "unconvetional" and you think yourself as "not like the other girls" -- your men all have the exact same haircut and I bet the average croat girl thinks anything else than a buzzcut on a guy means he is gay or effeminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:22 AM
4

This reminds me of the Thor/Loki debate, 6ft3 blue-eyed white anglo saxon protestand dude vs. 6ft2 blue-eyed white anglo saxon protestant dude Women in this thread just can't stop proving me right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:45 AM
2

who the fuck gives a toss about how tall are men in croatia? Chalamet is american and there he is taller than the average dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:41 AM
1

US average height for men 5 feet 9 inches global average height for men 5 feet 7.5 inches You're truly deluded if you think 5'10 is short.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:19 AM
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In what world is the heighr of 178cm considered tall? holy fuck heightinflation is real. Women have lost touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:57 AM
0

there are way way more short, thicc women than there are 6ft+, athletic, broad shouldered men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:53 AM
4

Women have more unique types, like Chamelet and Momoa example lean tall guy with a chiseled face vs. muscly tall guy with a chiseled face.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:42 AM
10

your fixation on necrophilia has 0 relevance to my thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:39 AM
7

i worked in bars and clubs and what stood out to women was a guys head popping out of a seamless crowd of people on the dance floor... not how nice his skin was or how sharp he dressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:38 AM
5

I'm not online enough, what are these bots about? Like a AI partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:35 AM
10

classic misandrist knee-jerk response + you didn't even disagree. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:33 AM
1

haha maybe, but I don’t know how would I have bigger appeal to people 10 years younger than those my own age. Makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:58 PM
2

im asian and the attention I got when I was 18 was from teenage girls, the attention I get at 28 is still from teenage girls. I don’t think a woman over 21 has ever approached or showed interest in me yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:42 PM
0

which is not an option at 30😂 idk why women even bring this up when its limited to teen girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:38 PM
0

you’re are a extreme outlier… there is far more androgynous looking guys than there is women into that particular look + half of them time they’re poly or some other emasculating degenerate shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:37 PM
2

violent felons have girlfriends even when their crimes are public, well known, and they're already locked up serving time. Hardly a case of women being tricked into thinking he's a law abiding nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:38 PM
8

people can pick on judgy shit women can't even tell who is a serial killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:54 PM
6

women rewarding power and dominance is exactly why we will never have luxury space communism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:52 PM
7

I am 6'1 I bet you write that shit into your profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:49 PM
1

Have you tried talking to girls like they’re human, learning about them, I had more female friends than male ones at one point in life, none of them ever saw me "that way". They liked my personality tho. So I doubt being a "unlikable" was my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:45 AM
3

yeah being clear with your intent is treating it as a type of goal and set objective and some women feel pressured by it, but then if you let things to develop unassuming of any romantic intent you risk coming off as the guy who misinterpreted her growing closeness and platonic affection as attraction. Something women always dread about happening with their guy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:39 PM
5

what makes the nice guy route worse is that (when not reciprocated) a man comes across even more pathetic than if he is just seen as a sex-seeking asshole. With the latter you at least retain some dignity as someone who is confident and unashamed of expressing desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:12 PM
8

everyone sees the person they want to be more than platonic friends with as a potential romantic prospect - its just that when women feel attracted back they think its some “stars aligning” moment, when they’re not feeling it it’s a predatory calculus in the guys part.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:46 AM
5

but women say they they hate being approached as potential romantic prospects and need to be friends first .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:37 PM
2

should men just hit on women and ask them out from the get-go, before they are friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:35 PM
5

women said incels can't attract women because they have no female friends and have shit personalities - but the friendzoned guys are often described as "great guys" so a good personality doesn't seem to attract women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:34 PM
5

well…thats what women tell men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:09 PM
3

what does “fit” mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:02 PM
6

no one is talking about obligations, im just observing a gap between what women say and what they end up doing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:51 PM
10

i thought women claimed the more exposed they were to a guy the more he grew on them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:50 PM
7

why does it keep happening to these guys in particular tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:32 PM
1

But go ahead, keep insisting that every interaction a woman has with a guy is inherently sexual. Enjoy being lonely, I guess. I have been touched by tipsy women in ways it would be completely unacceptable if a man did it to another woman (squeezing pec, waist brushing her hand along my pelvis), especially someone who is still an acquaintance. Then woman who did this to me blamed me for interpreting her touchy feely behavior as sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 06:51 AM

No matter how women try to frame it, these men struggle because of gender expectations placed on the man. A woman can sit back and get approached, but the man does the approaching and must carry the interaction. When people say "women mask better" it is entirely irrelevant, they are not expected to fill a proactive role here, men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 06:41 AM
8

“cuddling is not sexual just beacuse men say so” says the radfem until its the 40yo spooning with a 18yo. Then they say it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:08 PM
1

now imagine your 40yo neighbor spooning with a 18yo. Still think its innocent?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:57 PM
1

look at u/ghostguac007/ defending a man laying in woman's lap while caressing her hair and neck as 100% "platonic".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:35 PM
5

Every case of opposite sex cuddling I've witnessed and truly believe to be platonic on the male end involved a conventionally attractive dude that is why it happens a lot in theater/model/film circles where there is a preselection of attractive people. I never saw women doing it with a much less attractive male friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:22 PM
5

would say that if you found your wife with another man in that position?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:13 PM
3

I don't know what you mean by cuddling. Laying in her lap and caressing her hair and face while you're in her apartment the two of you alone. There is no way to frame this as platonic, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:10 PM
2

the gay guys who touch other dudes work the same way straight dudes do - they get touchy with the men they find attractive, even if its under the cloak of goofing around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:06 PM
5

do they happen to be attractive or do they pay to cuddle with fat greasy neckbeards?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:41 PM
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comment section.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:46 PM
13

a lot of women here claim it to be so lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:41 PM
1

Good question. I know because sex was on the table. And they didn't take it. then it wasn't purely platonic, you did it with a guy who was already a "maybe".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:37 PM

do these guys grab their male buddies like that too? If not, you’re terribly naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:43 AM

friends? She is a acquaintance from work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:14 PM

so if she can grab my pecs and suqeeze my waist and its part of her bubbly personality? I wonder how that would go down if a man did it to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:42 PM

where would you touch your male friends as opposed to someone you were attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:36 PM
8

with some men hundreds of women feel chemistry with, with others none.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:00 PM
1

id get sun damage and then women would just say I should have used sunscreen because women dislike old crusty skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:13 PM
5

many zoned guy are likeable as people, considered close friends and confidants by women... just not attractive enough to kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:28 PM
4

Isn't that just not aligning with preferences in your geographic location? are you suggesting I become a passporbro because of my ethnicity?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:24 PM
3

Beacuase I'm a pale east asian guy in a land where sun-kissed country boys reign supreme.😜
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:14 PM
4

brilliant post👆
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:30 AM
4

objectification and consent are not mutually exclusive. You're essentially arguing that someone twerking is not sexual objectification if its not meant for "the male gaze" - you're putting the blame on the viewer for interpreting that way. Or women into kink role-playing as dogs can be 100% consensual, but doesn't take away from the fact they're still behaving like dogs and licking cum off the floor. That is the difference between you idealist morons and us materialists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 08:42 PM
30

it also is hypocritical how "Nice guys" are framed as cowards who lack the balls and maturity to be honest with their feelings, but the moment guys like that would be honest and started just flirting and asking women they're attracted out the people would remind them that they treat women as "romantic prospects" instead of getting to know them as "regular people".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 08:07 PM
1

this is the natural consequence of the advice men are given to (usually by women themselves). Whenever someone says "don't hit on women, try to get to know her as a person first" this is what the man will be doing. Not even intentionally. Maybe he without irony believes that your growing friendliness is in fact flirting. The alternative to this is being flirty and suggestive early on and letting her know what's your business here, but then you will of course risk looking like you just want to sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 08:02 PM
42

Why does it render men specifically unattractive and undatable, but not women? Why is being a quirky chungus seen as intriguing in a woman, but when a man is anything less than a a smooth nonchalant charmer who perfectly reads rooms it gives women the "ick" or "creeps" them out? Why aren't women who are so keen on bringing down "gender roles" acknowledging they're basically rejecting men whenever they don't perform their masculinity proper.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:52 PM
10

they want to be hit on immediately?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:11 PM
1

what happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:29 PM
2

some men are predestined to be perceived as the asexual friend. If they try to break from that role and act more forward they get the “pig after sex” stamp.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:33 PM
8

exactly, they don't have a issue with "objectification" after all if its a hot enough guy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:44 PM
1

You can approach someone as a regular human, mention in passing that you're single and happen to be looking for a partner, "omg I thought I met the nicest guy, but then he brought this shit up"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:42 PM
12

women get railed by men they pick off 2D photos on online dating sites. I don't know how much personality there can shine through.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:41 PM
-9

Striking up a conversation with someone you have some familiarity with, making her laugh most of the time you end up looking like this guy to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:38 PM
3

neither will a lack of human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:21 PM
46

easy to be happily single when a hookup, fwb, fling is a swipe away whenever the itch gets unbearable. It’s like being a trust fund kid who “rejects materialism” solo travels the world and hangs out with vagabonds before returning to take over daddy’s real estate firm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:57 PM
21

63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age group. Younger men are also far more likely than older men to be single
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:04 AM
7

men fuck everything so the fact that a woman can’t make him stay around after he empties his balls into her would kinda indicate that her personality might be the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:50 PM
25

see what I mean😆👆
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:25 PM

all of these "personality detector" women usually have a tale about how they dated one or more abusive jerks in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:51 PM
22

Normal, decent guys who aren't romantically successful don't seem to complain as much and don't blame women. all of those guys get called "entitled" the moment they would express the slightest frustrations about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:50 PM
1

think about building a solid platonic support first yeah and then you're this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:41 AM
6

yet looks alone got him friendzoned, even tho he was a "great guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:25 AM
5

you never said, you implied. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:53 PM
1

You're also back tracking because that was not your example. Your example in the post describes Selma Hayek not an obese woman. I never considerd Salma Hayek as an example of "thicc", she is lean and a bit curvy, but not thicc. THis is what I mean by the short and thicc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:16 AM
2

clinically obese women like this have hundred thousands of followers, I have yet to see a male equivalent of this having such appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:01 AM
-1

The 6’1 muscular man with strong features would be much higher than a woman with the same traits. how many women are 6'1 and muscular tho? We're talking about less than 1%. Meanwhile 85% of men in the US are beneath what the "attractive male height" is according to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 10:58 AM
1

in a lot of womens mind any guy who isn't a Chad is "ugly guy dating someone out of his league" if the chick is half-decent. I saw a article explaining this supposed phenomena using a picture of a white woman and a east asian man titled "Reasons why beautiful women choose ugly men" and it relied on nothing but existing tropes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 10:53 AM
2

women claim they’re subject to unrealistic beauty standards… I guess not lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:37 AM
2

this is not how people define leagues tho. If it were women wouldn’t be going “how did be get her” or “what does she see in him” when they are witnessing all couple they clearly see as mismatched on a “leagues” level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:36 AM
2

👆this is the part no one seems to get despite me explaining it on a eli5 level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:25 AM
-1

Lots of guys prefer the chunky thighed Latina over the assless Swedish catalogue model. both those women probably prefer the same tall&athletic guy tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:05 AM
4

I'm just describing what is happening and putting the perception of many people here who claim they see "attractive women are dating average schmucks" into broader context.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:59 AM
4

I have had plenty of women as friends, even more than I had male ones, and these observations were common.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:54 AM
7

in the eyes of women the average woman is out of league of a average guy. Hence all the "see attractive women dating average dudes all the time" anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:47 AM
3

where is the lie here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:43 AM
2

they don't have to, but this dynamic and perception is real and explain why so many people here claim they see "attractive women dating average dudes" all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:40 AM
11

people who were rejected their whole lives are bitter… gee whiz Einstein.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:05 PM
20

because I get interest from the way I look at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:53 AM
7

Introverts are less intelligent this is completely baseless. I never head this one before (and yes I googled it).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:38 AM

Increasingly yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:04 AM

"but what about all the tall, ripped, masculine women of this world? they have it just as hard as the short guy gotcha inkwell"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:51 AM

at 5’8 alone that woman is in 96percentile when it comes to height, combine that with having a large frame or being muscly and the number is even lower. Meanwhile 85% of men are under 6ft.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:49 AM

because you're setting up these ridiculous extremes: "welp short men aren't that desirable but whattabout all the tall women built like Hulk Hogan?" - bucko this comparison is retarded precisely because it relies on outlier extremes. There are a lot of short, chubby, nonathletic guys out there, how many women build like Hulk Hogan are there? Tall women per se don't have problems attracting a guy, they often reject short guys for "fetishizing" their height or simply because they just don't want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:20 AM

"man not mogging 85% of the male population is the same as woman having broad shoulders and a beard"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:11 AM

what is here not to understand? When women say they see "average" men dating pretty women all the time its their 80/20 classification system kicking in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:08 AM

its not only men who have this variety out of "desperation" - its other women who see things this way too. On this sub women constantly claim how they see pretty/hot women dating "average" dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:05 AM

its actually insane, years ago I saw a article titled "Reasons why beautiful women choose to date ugly men" and underneath the title there was a picture of blonde woman and a south asian man (I think he was some professional tennis player) with everyone behaving like its a Quasimodo and Esmeralda case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:54 AM

look at it this way: a tall, slender, blonde with blue eyes and legs for days is often times seen as conventionally attractive . Her "league" is probably some fit tall guy with a chiseled face. Then you have her opposite: a short curvy girl with thunder thighs and bamby brown eyes. Despite not looking anywhere near a model no one thinks her "league" is a short chubby man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:06 AM
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women look at me that way because I'm the only east asian guy in a bar, club or town. And when I approached them it turned out they were looking out of a childlike curiosity for alien races, not a desire to bang me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:32 PM
4

because fashion cyclical. What you saw as “pervy uncle who peaked in the 80s” is now seen as hot by a lot of younger women who are not old enough to remember who sported that look back then. The style looked like shit only because it was worn by dudes who sported it deep into middle age. Today’s equivalent of the 80s pedo uncle look is increasingly getting associated with milenial men who still dress in slim fit attire like Gosling in Crazy, Stupid Love thinking they look “sharp”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:11 PM
4

Listen guys lose the pdf file stache and glasses, lose the basketball shorts and Birkenstock sandals, dress in 2025 are you a milenial? That is the 2025 fashion, and those 'sleazy' looking guys have the least problem getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:04 PM
6

"I don't know what you mean by status" *proceeds to brag about her hubby maxing six figures
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:06 PM
12

are you capable of entertaining a non solipsistic thought? Yes you quirky reddit woman might be an odd ball, but in general the average progressive woman out there operates as I have described.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:02 PM
22

women perceive status in a similar way they look at height - its never about being taller than her, but being taller relative to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:55 PM
23

who said unemployed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:42 PM
2

correct. There is no “yourself” it doesn’t exist in a vacuum - there is always an audience, even if it’s a imaginary one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:53 AM
-2

How is the bluepill not real when you exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:19 PM
2

“she did not consent to appear jn your wet dreams” 1984 level of thought crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:19 PM
3

If you proposition someone for a coffee with the goal of pump its at best, ambiguous, at worst, dishonest. wanna strike up a casual conversation or get to know somebody better without the goal of boning them, that’s clearly not objectifying and obviously fine. "people really shouldn't approach other people with sinful desires in their heart unless they're in a specially devised BDSM sex dungeon"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:53 PM
3

The arm bands are the consent. they don't mean the person consented to any guy there in attendance, jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:36 PM
1

lol possibly one of the worst "just world" takes mainstream has to offer right now. It makes it look as women aren't willfully having sex with jerks, abusers, violent criminals and links romantic invisibility to a character flaw if not a outright moral failing -- she merely perpetuates the winners = fuck stereotype found in every lockeroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:35 PM
2

the friendzone doesn't exist because women know within 3 seconds whether the guy is a "nope".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:31 PM
3

propositioning a stranger to a grab coffee sometimes = inappropriate walking around with a "ravage my holes" armband = wholesome
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:03 PM
-1

narcy personalities be disturbed they can't be Hitler toward ugly people like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:59 PM
4

your point doesn't stand. Which part of my post exactly is about violating anyone's consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:51 PM
4

we're talking about sexual objectification not violating anyone's consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:50 PM
4

you don't need a lack of consent for something to be sexual objectification. OF creators are all selling pics of their ass/boobs/feet or whatever body part consensually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:45 PM
2

lmao these people then attend parties where they hook up based on a common partial-object fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:42 PM
-2

they are offenders when it comes to sexual objectification , not consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:39 PM
17

how would someone get consent without approaching, starting a convo and eventually asking them out? Makes zero sense, unless you are on a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:31 PM
-3

hurt or not, you never denied the tropes aren't true lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:27 PM
1

how would a traveler be boring and a homebody interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:55 PM
5

even reddit women want extroverted "life of the party" type of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:53 PM
3

what are some bigboy hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:27 PM
1

I suspect he needs cool, high status hobbies not low effort ones like collecting pokemon cards or playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:09 PM
13

some guys have a pattern of being perceived as "boring" by a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:07 PM

"safety" give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:06 PM

I think its more to do with different women sharing a similiar taste in men. For example I see that a tall slim woman wants a tall fit guy for herself, but so does the short thicc one. So you have beach blonde Barbie and some short curvy brown-eyed girl competing for the same type of guy, ignoring the rest. This process creates the fuccbois and the guy who gets zero dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:02 PM

reminder this guys is getting matches while women film and threat profile ugly guys for looking their way on public transport.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:45 AM

are you intentionally acting dim or are you 10 years old? Every app that uses an actual verification process requires you to take a photo of a identification document and then the camera will turn on and you have to show/film/take photos of your face. You cannot just upload random pics you have stored on your phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:21 AM

you had to verify you were a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:12 AM

yes actually
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:02 AM
1

he is worse, believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:31 PM
2

can't believe you just sent me back to the club after arguing I should meet more-like-minded women elsewhere lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:23 PM
16

i talked to a woman who I knew for years and she was aware I had been using creams, and she said "I can't imagine waking up in the morning and seeing my man applying cream at a bedside table"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:22 PM
1

Average young woman you see. There might be a lot of women who just chill at home and thus aren't seen in public. should I barge into their homes? Because when they use dating apps they swipe on the same guys girls at "da club" do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:17 PM
2

they're at "da library" too, but people say you can't approach them there, because they're there to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:14 PM

classic terminally online take.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:06 PM
-1

Im a young guy and the average young woman is out there clubbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:47 PM
2

i want to avoid these women, but they seem to occupy most public spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:44 PM
4

yes even redpillers here sound like progressives compared to where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:33 PM
11

i live in a area where this is the majority type the moment you log off reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:31 PM
-1

nobody is trying to control women here. I'm just juxtaposing their contradictory beliefs and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:30 AM
4

One type of woman says something, another type of woman does something else. Many women harbor these ambivalent feelings .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:27 AM
3

Idk if guys really know what they want most of the time either men are simple creatures. They have no qualms admitting they go for boobs, ass, legs, feet even... Not much here to discuss about. Women on the other hand try to explain their attraction as a complex system, but it really isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:25 AM
1

normal people are quite r-slurred when it comes to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:04 PM
-12

cognitive dissonance is a real thing among people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:11 PM
-13

This is not an individual phenomenon, it's a mass phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:03 PM
8

“men should open up and be vulnerable more” “we are not your therapist” crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:26 AM
1

a lot of incels seem to overlap with looksmaxxing communities, so compared to the average guy they are metrosexual and still get ignored by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:37 PM
7

I'm really interested about how people rate the average guy compared to a woman. Too much people look at a couple and go "lucky bastard" and its a skinny woman with a skinny guy as if it were Esmeralda and Quasiomodo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:05 AM
5

women don't have "flings" with average guys. at least on when searching for one on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:01 AM
9

women also tended to message guys they rated below average message them what? "sorry not interested" or "I hope you find someone"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:00 AM
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quite happy to remain single. You didn't disprove anything I wrote. If women were didn't care about relationships we would have far more single young women than men, but its the the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:59 AM
6

"that special one person" That special one person which isn't affected by social conventions and peer pressure around sex and relationships will be rare. The average girl your age will think there is "something wrong with you" and the ones who fall out of this framework of thinking will be far and few in between. You'd need to approach and ask out lots of women to get to that "special one". Which in turn is again something that women will advise you not to do, because they think things should "j…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:53 AM
13

why are average women not attracted to average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:06 PM

ok, say this were true, that women were paired off with average guys out of necessity for survival, but after gaining financial independence have less initiative to do so (or not nearly as much) this just leaves us with even a more blackpilled prognosis: that the average woman isn't attracted to the average man and indeed is trying to get with Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:02 PM
3

sociologist here: this is already considered when making a poll, every question has a disclaimer of what precisely it is meant by the term in active usage within the poll to avoid subjective interpretations. When we made polls about drug use we didn't rely on a colloquial use of the term "drug user" it was clearly defined whether you consumed any kind of illicit drugs for recreative use - otherwise it would lead to confusion where everyone- from a crackhead to someone taking an aspirin would cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:47 PM
-5

men think it’s “gay” to have a skincare routine, to groom your eyebrows and lashes, or grow out and groom your hair. Men call it "gay" while women get the "ick" over it (t. man who actually does all those things).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:34 PM
15

most women do and would choose being celibate over sleeping w a man who is actively pursuing other women women call this a "situationship" now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:31 PM
11

there are so many voluntarily single women More than 60 percent of young men are single, nearly twice the rate of unattached young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:28 PM
26

"grandma was facing staravtion and was forced to marry ugly grandpa at a shotgun wedding" I'm tired of this argument. The incel phenomena didn't exponentially grew when women got their voting and economic rights, it accelerated with the advent of the dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:24 PM
7

no man would go on a date and be shocked the woman would go for a kiss at the end of it. There is no comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:49 PM
2

if i wrote “guy im not really attracted to” women would claim they only go on dates with men they’re super attracted to and shut down the thred.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:25 PM
0

“I don’t understand why the girl that was turning her heads away while having her arms crossed in front of her and telling me not to walk her to her door, didn’t wanna smooch?" Why is she even on a date with him if she hates him that much lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:06 PM
-8

*hot men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:05 PM
4

"knows to read body language" aka "knows his place in the sexual hierarchy like a good boi."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:56 PM
-5

women do go on dates with men they have zero intention kissing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:55 PM
2

Your pretty lady in that scenario interpreted his small talk as friendly neighborliness, when he asks her out one day she will go "I though I made a friend that day, but it turns out its just another dude trying to get into my pants"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:29 PM
3

And then I told him that marriages with 10 year age gaps are more likely to have divorces. so do interracial ones. And I never see you brave devlis-advocate-playing-asses argue against racemixing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:04 PM
4

the average woman is fat, Im not. How is that the “same league”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:41 PM
2

they never spill this one out, and its for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:32 AM
1

"In reality they’re a 2 going after an 8." Ok, what is the "league" of a 5'11 slender east asian guy with pale skin and dark brown hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:28 AM
2

why would it be creepy lol? Calvinist culture is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:24 AM
3

the sub seems to upvote completely contradictory positions depending on how badly they want to own the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:20 AM
2

"just hit on strangers bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:53 AM
8

he got one success I wrote one paragraph, and you're acting as if these are all the interactions I ever had. What is the correlation between being bluepilled and ones total lack or ability of contextual thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:52 AM
5

maybe it has less to do with how you behaved and more the person just being into you? maybe incels are right and it were just looks all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:42 AM
3

Also if a woman already finds you physically attractive you won’t need to sexualize no way of knowing for sure + one woman's flirty is another woman's just friendly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:26 PM
-2

i bet you respond to "wanna smash" better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:24 PM
5

its crazy how women are shocked, but probably are fucking a guy who operates like this as we speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:06 PM
1

Some men seem to see women befriending them as an insult, that's not the part I had an issue with....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:45 PM
3

then literally asking them out on a date (not hangout) should send a clear message of what is intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:32 PM
4

society has (albeit there has been some undoing lately) certanily drilled into womens heads that asian dudes are asexual goofballs, it's a thing very much observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:27 PM
5

you can behave like a decent human we live in a time where a guy can open with a vulgar "wanna smash" and (depending whether he is hot enough) a woman will have no qualms with hooking up with him while you're moralizing about "decency" . Miss me with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:24 PM
12

“you were pretending to be her friend instead of being honest with your intentions from the go” “you should have befriended her first instead of treating her like a romantic prospect from the go“ you can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:10 PM
10

yeah, yeah you're a "sneaky nice guy" unless two of you simultaneously discover you are into each other after the stars aligned...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:49 PM
5

what "company policy" are we in a corporation? is the HR in the room with us?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:43 PM
7

so assertive in what sense if they can't be sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:33 PM
10

In that particular example it was reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:30 PM
3

which part is the "harassment" part?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:30 PM
5

Take that same "harassing" act I just described and copy/paste it onto a guy you find hot and now he's suddenly a bold and confident flirt. I'm done apologizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:23 PM
7

you mean like all of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:22 PM
21

because women here constantly tell men how they always "started as friends first".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:21 PM
1

"responsive desire" so I need to hit on, flirt with women who otherwise don't show interest first to gouge if they will be attracted?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 09:01 AM
1

if moving onto the next one is “just looking for a hole”, how long does it need to pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:51 AM
0

is he supposed to dwell on the girl that rejected him ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:43 AM
-6

"Just ask girls out in your social circle bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:41 AM
-6

"he is supposed to dwell on his unreciprocated love for me"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:40 AM
4

It ONLY matters if the woman is attracted to your looks WITHOUT the physique meaning what? Face?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:44 PM
10

No, we are creeped out by desperation, you're creeped out by vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:16 PM
4

"rotting your prime years romantically alone is perfectly ok"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:13 PM
5

immutable ones, often.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:11 PM
10

after a certain age single men are treated as pedo-adjencts. They threat profile older single men on vacations who happen to have a camera.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:29 PM
17

yeah women want experienced men, which kinda pressures men into trying to obtain that alpha leader mindset which in turn propels toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:56 PM
3

this is actually a very good example of a guy not being able to read the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:02 PM
29

Most women don't seem to be aware of how their own prejudice plays a role in it. Is he really "creepy" or just unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 05:25 PM
2

I've noticed on her guys have inflated sense of self and all these expectations around what they deserve in a women. I thought we needed more confidence and self worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:57 PM
0

What is a "super hot chick"? Is it the slim, long-legged blonde with proportions of a runway model or the short curvy latina girl? Often they will be both seen as conventionally attractive, a tall athletic guy will also be seen as conventionally attractive, but a short stocky guy will probably be seen as "meh".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:51 AM
1

very, very interesting take.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:57 PM
41

No woman is getting "exposed" or making viral rounds for getting railed by Chad, but plenty of guys get their faces posted online for glancing at a woman while ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:32 PM
5

On what planet are young WOMEN thought of as children? Do we need to bring back chaperones and restore their fathers rights as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:28 PM

zoomers started using it like a few months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:46 PM

Even a better example of this is how people in the west see east asians: both east asian men and women don't have exaggerated dimorphic traits (compared to other ethnicities). The guys are shorter and not really broad, the women have narrower hips and smaller boobs and flatter asses - but somehow this doesn't hit their smv as much as it does asian guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:45 PM

it still only goes from masculine to hyper masculine range. Meanwhile attractive female faces range from sculpted like Olivia Wildes (who has a stronger jaw than a lot of men) to babyfaced e-girls with recessed chins.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:42 PM
5

by 30 everyone gets to be 25, but only a minority gets to be 6ft+.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:08 PM

"le chopped man epidemic" Imagine two siblings: the brother is tall, fit, chiseled and blue eyed, his sister: legs for days, slim, defined cheekbones and blonde as well. Generally men and women will consider them conventionally attractive, perhaps even model like. Now image another two siblings: the sister is short, has thick thighs, and bamby brown eyes - she will still be considered attractive, by women and men alike, even though her measurements are far from that of a model, but her short and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:43 PM

"we love italian Chads and nordic Chads inkwell women not same"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:46 AM
1

I am a pale east asian guy in a land where bearded sun-kissed country boys are the ideal. Otherwise than that Im conventionally normal looking (full head of hair, nice smile, 5’11, prominent cheekbones) It took me a while to realize that women here didn’t even register me as a man in a heterosexual sense.🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:29 PM
0

Lol. This is so false. I always had more women friends than male ones. Every one of them never felt a "spark" or anything. I was always a confidant they could be at ease with and talk about everything, but never considered attractive enough for a fwb scenario, not even a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:19 PM
8

There is no other way to meet women. At work? She's there to work and is calling HR. In the gym? Hecking just trying to workout in peace. Bars? Can't have a girlies night out without someone bothering her. Dance classes? Just there to learn to dance and not be asked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:17 PM
3

"just don't bother women on XYZ places we are just trying to live, party, workout and hike without being bothered by men"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:11 PM
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"both unattractive men and women will be invisible" I hate this both-sideism with a burning passion. The "bar" for what is a unattractive woman is much much lower. Think about it; when two siblings are blonde, blue eyed, fit and tall society will probably consider both (the girl and her brother) very attractive, even model-like. Now imagine a short girl who has thick thighs and bamby brown eyes - she will still be considered attractive (by men and women alike) despite NOT looking like a model, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:02 PM
3

let me guess your friends called your crush “ugly” and pressured you to go for guys they approved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:15 PM
3

every guy even considered to play bond was preselected not only on the basis of being a good actor, but on having the looks and sex appeal to carry the role. You’re basically saying women have “different taste” since they all like different flavors of good looking hunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:35 PM
3

you're comparing liking boobs and ass to liking a height found in only 14% of the male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:40 PM
5

this one is the craziest. And then you get everyone arguing whether modern women are attracted to feminine or masculine men and its just clean shaven angular faced tall guy with floppy hair vs. buzzed mustache man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:34 PM
8

exactly. which is why the selection is based on immutable traits not ones hygiene habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:04 PM
15

this only confirms that men who don't wash their ass are still getting dates compared to someone who is neat and clean but undesirable due to immutable traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:52 PM
8

turns out huge enough numbers of men aren't anyone's type, huge enough to there be studies acknowledging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:50 PM
14

a man's chances often get nuked due to immutable traits, people then chime in and say that these men probably don't shower and clip their toenails which is patronizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:42 PM
2

i’ve been told by girls who were into me that I couldn’t possibly be creepy even if I “stalked women” , but the ones who hate asian men roll their eyes if I look at them or make aa puking face. Its crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:32 AM
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i understand disinterest, but women seem to feel the need to character assassinate these men. Why are they “creeps” for desiring sex, if you’re doing the same anyway with men you find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:44 AM
3

I worked in bars for almost 10 years and observed this on a daily basis. I was even asked by women to get some info (name, age, status) on “that cute guy” they would see hanging at the place.The only people vehemently claiming women “never flirt with strangers” so fare are found on reddit and tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:26 PM
4

women like it from attractive men. Not everyone is terminally online or uses dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:16 PM
2

people flirt this way all the time. touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:02 PM
0

they don’t, so its useless to call those guys creepy if its your own prejudice against uglies making you project negative stereotypes onto them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:56 PM
4

wrong. If a hot guy (at least hot to her) does flirty eye contact is given a pass or are seen as bold or confident. If the same eye contact is made by someone she thinks is ugly is seen as inappropriate to which she retroactively decides it could only be done by a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:54 PM
8

i thought women value clear communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:31 PM
-1

they’re doing the same shit but “zhe vibes are off” is probably a judgment influenced by the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:22 PM
14

you’re tying morality to sex appeal again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:02 PM
-2

why are they like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:27 PM
6

how are women stop toxic masculinity if they seem to keep encouraging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:04 PM
9

what effort? I was never described as unkempt or disheveled looking. I get shot down due to my ethnicity alone. How does one change that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:47 PM
6

the average woman appears hotter because more types of looks pass as attractive in a woman. Think about it; when two siblings are blonde, blue eyed, fit and tall society will probably consider both (the girl and her brother) very attractive. Now imagine a short girl who has thick thighs and bamby brown eyes - she will still be considered attractive despite not looking like a model, her short stocky brother will be your “mid” guy overrating himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:43 PM
2

online they are the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:16 PM
17

why don’t they tolerate a lack of confidence in men? Shy women are attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:52 PM
8

there is no way of telling this in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:37 PM
27

how does one know whether they are attractive to that person? Unless you matched on a dating app you literally need to bother them to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:35 PM
14

patronizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:28 PM
0

this does not hold true for europe or us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:31 PM
1

general trends abd habits matter when discussing these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:12 PM
3

holy shit , I didn’t know it was that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:05 PM
6

studies snd surveys reject this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:03 PM
0

and these men often ln get friend/gay/bestie - zoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:29 PM
0

im not white Im east asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:14 AM
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women themselves associate their preferences with morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:23 PM
3

how does one get to that partner if 99% find you unattractive based on immutable features?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 08:30 PM
1

did you just assume I have subpar hygiene or grooming habits?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 08:29 PM
1

yes , the whole “women attraction is complex” just functions to mystify a total lack of it. It is emphasized precisely because they need to mask a much more shallow reality behind attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 08:28 PM
0

Attractive men are entitled too, they just get it. Only uglies are expected to tolerate a Jim Crow system of sexual differentiation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 08:01 PM
1

“entitled” is the wrong word here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:46 PM
10

“you’re just unfuckable” classic retort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:45 PM
-1

you haven’t read beyond the title. The point I was trying to illustrate was that average guy looking for a hookup is painted as a “objectifying” sleaze even by women who otherwise do hookups .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:00 PM
-2

nobody doing one night stands cares about “personality”. Please stope being delulu.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:30 PM
-3

the “viewing them as objects” is a projection women make when the guy isn’t hot so they character assassinate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:27 PM

then why are so many young men single?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:13 PM
-2

they all seem to become “demisexual” around average guys… curious?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:12 PM

its useless yo discuss without providing pictures of what is a “normal” physique compared to a “hyper muscular one” but usually women think mr. olympia is “too much” but then unironically call someone like Michael Phelps merely “lean” even though he is more ripped that Sean Connery as a professional body builders ever was.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:36 PM

for many women a hyper muscular body achieved without steroids is a “dad bod”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:30 PM

that is exactly the point. The scale keeps tipping toward extremes. Todays “just fit” is yesterday’s professional body builders physique. Women are awful at sensing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:29 PM

today the “swimmer physique” (I bet you’re imagining Michael Phelps here ) is how professional body builders used to look like. Youre comparing already ripped guys to Mr. Universe abominations thinking that level of fitness is “normal”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:23 PM

“female gaze” doesn’t even know how a body on steroids looke like. They think you will be ripped from playing basketball on the weekend with your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:13 PM

there is a singular standard for men. And several for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:06 PM

they can’t. They will rate a skinny guy as gross and scrawny but claim a skinny woman is “petite and ideal” they pull this switch with fat people too: a chubby girl is seen as “voluptuous” her stocky brother as “out of shape” .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:01 PM

they rate them on a flexible scale compared to how they rate men. Jusy put on a gender filter and most of “baddies” look like incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 01:59 PM
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they simultaneously claim that there is nothing wrong with being single as they threat profile single men as “must be something wrong with them” creeps, homos or even pedo adjencts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:38 PM
2

they also have a height cut-off. Is being short "unhealthy" or do women want designer babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:54 PM

you're bluepilled, so you just go with the flow, in nazi germany you'd probably be a kapo or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:10 AM

i don't think age-gap shaming is exclusivelly to be blamed on women +30 as it appears to be more of a trend among the terminally online, the woke , and dads with unresolved incestious feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:39 AM
2

it really isn't anymore. Back in my day you got called "gay" by the bros for doing a banal feminine thing, today its mostly women who get the "Icky" over a guy doing innocuous slightly feminine thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:21 AM
12

I do not understand what you all mean when you say “despite what women tell you” — where do you all live There seems to be a article about us having to reckon with hegemonic masculinity every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:03 PM
4

The usual route for a quirky guy is the friendzone. He is likable, as a friend or close confidant, just not in a romantic way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:59 PM
9

there no contradiction here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:57 PM
4

its not about fairness, its about what women say vs. what they actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:57 PM
25

Your title speaks of women enforcing stereotypical masculinity but then goes on to describe women wanting men to understand nonverbal cues. the nonverbal cue is to be a leading man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:49 AM
13

These expectations place a immense pressure on many young men who try and tailor interactions with the opposite sex in a performative way instead of being themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:42 AM
2

they even write it down on forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:52 PM
5

Relatable as a asian man who doesn't fit the alpha mold. I don't believe that "all women want Chads" but the basic bitch out there you see at the club however has zero tolerance for anything less than a extroverted, sun-kissed Chad-lite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:47 PM
1

teehee
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:45 PM
11

I never thought it would make it mainstream. But not its like a whole subculture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:42 PM
4

"vaguely?" these are core tenets.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:47 AM
13

the modern woman liberated woman is caught between "smashing the patriarchy" and simultaneously expects her partner to fit a traditionally masculine mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:46 AM
13

I don't wanna sound too misogynistic, but even highly educated, intellectual women, seem to be incapable of any real self-reflection or turning inwards as to why they like what they like (incels at least have this self-depreciating cynicism about their condition and developed a whole vocabulary to articulate it) But women will philosophise "why am I only attracted to emotionally unavailable men" and its just a guy out of her league treating her as a side-piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:05 AM
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"personality" also falls under "alpha traits" considering how easily women get the "ick" over a man doing innocuous slightly feminine things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:41 AM

education system
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:47 PM

by “a little more gregarious” what type of physical contact this would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:46 PM

apparently she is a "theater kid" and this is "platonic affection" according to those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:43 PM
2

bluepillers would argue that it is your responsibility to reject those young women because its gonna cause them “trauma”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:53 AM
1

society makes people lie about these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:51 AM
2

because most of them are married. Not everyone is in a metropolitan area.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:50 AM
1

Posts like this convinced me bluepillers are the same people who’d advocate quartering homosexuals if it were the middle ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:44 AM
2

holly molly, this meme sums up this sub perfectly. I would only argue that instead of a 30 year old woman it could be a white knight or any bluepiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:19 AM
2

“the wall at 30 is a misogynist myth” “we can immediately detect when someone is 30”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:16 AM
0

those women had their fun and can reminiscent about the good old days, guys whose youth has passed without ever experiencing romantic love or intimacy have nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:04 PM
19

the bar for “masculine” is much more unforgiving because it relies on cartoonish stereotypes sround masculinity rooted in western heroic ideals mixed with Hollywood. I mean whole races of men, like asian men for example were not seen as real men by women till not so long ago, I never heard an asian woman say she isn’t seen as feminine. Femininity seems to at least be a spectrum, masculinity is about fitting the alpha mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:00 PM
1

are you talking from experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:13 PM
3

do they know you are in your 40s. Im scared to approach younger women who think Im around their age because they reocoil when they find out my real age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:02 PM
3

Thats crazy. I wish I lived there or NYC where being a single 30 year old dude isn't taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:49 PM
4

In the backwoods I live in people marry at 21 and are divorced with kids by 30. Maybe its different in bigger cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:19 PM
4

I look youngish, not anything drastic, and women my age accused me of trying to "bait" college aged "girls" with my youthful look and suggested I cut my hair and start looking "like a man". The shaming is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:17 PM
10

women find a guy creepy not because she personally doesn't find him attractive, but because he seems clueless about the nonverbal, or verbal, cues she gives him one woman's flirty and suggestive is another woman's smiling out of politeness because she was raised to please or is a bubbly personality . There is no way one can read her mind. Only a obvious rebuff of ones advances gets this settled (unless you suggest uggos should know their place and just assume no woman wants them in the first pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:29 PM
6

there is too much chubby chasers out there for this to be analogous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:40 AM
5

You just havent met the right person yet and thats ok. There are 7 billion people in the world. "but be sure not to bother women going about their day and try to find a girlfriend in your social circle consisting of 5-10 people".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:31 PM
8

it is not the fault of the person rejecting them, but as a society we are sabotaging men by trying to whittle down meeting women to Tinder swipes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:08 PM
14

the stud you once hooked up with had a much greater chance of giving you herpes, but sure, keep on fearmongering about the STD ridden virgin under your bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:32 PM
19

this is not about consent lol. Guys get the "that guy" label for simply asking women out and getting their advances rebuffed. In a social circle it only takes 2-3 rejections before you become "that guy". In contrast a guy who has had sex with women in his social circle becomes even more intriguing to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:11 PM

not all passport bros seek out impoverished women. I know I would have more luck dating in japan than in Europe, because women my age here find pale asian guys unmanly and too feminine looking. Passport bros are just a symptom of your hypergamy and racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:00 AM
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Lol her alter ego “Ned” barely passes, apparently anything less than a jacked 6ft+, bearded guy "barely passes" as a man in the eyes of straight women which pretty much explains why Tinder might be a nightmare for the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:26 PM
0

this just means that others define your value, and a ugly behaving confidently is creepy because guy is “unaware” of where he stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:04 PM
9

How do you gouge your "league" ? I get that a fat greasy unkempt guy wanting a fit woman would be shooting out of his league, but it seems, in the US at least, a skinny guy wanting a slim women is also shooting out his league, even fat women, who occasionally get smashed by a gymbro in a one night stand, then perceive themselves as not in the same league as fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:43 AM
12

I have gotten fake numbers, despite me telling the girls it’s okay if they don’t want to. women will say that they do that because they are afraid of you hulk-smashing them into the pavement floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:38 AM
2

Do you look younger, or do they like the more mature look you have? It seems that women here will shit on you regardless. If they see a guy who looks his age, they will say "no woman in her 20s is attracted to crusty middle aged dudes" but if you look younger they will accuse you of trying to bait young impressionable girls with your maintained look.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:19 PM
2

Its just moral panics, you had your lavender scares, called integration communist subversion, warned us of satanic cults, how gays would be snatching kids turning them gay… america is a nation bound together by moral panics; in the absence of an actual moral center or a compass of justice, you just pick the next socially acceptable target. I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future a progressive Bush-like leader would be cluster boming countries who still haven’t raised the age of consent to 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:19 PM
4

the place I come from people still don’t like gay and interracial couples. Doesn’t mean they are right about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:06 PM

they are willing to risk unwashed ass and skid marked bedsheets as long as genetic makeup attracts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:59 PM
14

they are doing it again 😂. Also: women supposedly happily single yet, compared to men, most of them are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:56 PM
5

why would relationships between adults “creepy” if they are consensual?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:45 PM
7

“who appear” are you counting their wrinkles? I used to work as a receptionist and most couples with a 5-12 year age gap didn’t “appear” to have an age gap that big until I checked their id’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:35 PM
3

don’t play dumb here. To make that much of a statistical difference the participants age would need to be very unevenly distributed. No serious realsearch would make a study on 20somethings where the majority of subjects would be 27+.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:32 PM
5

“avg age gap is 2 years” then how are 63% of men in their 20s single compared to only 34% of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:52 AM
3

Gotta be consistent here and let adult women date who they feel attracted to instead of trying to remote manage their decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:01 PM
3

what do parents have to do with it? Its not I’m going to fuck dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:46 PM
9

keep this same energy when women get called “whores” and “bitches”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:00 PM
-2

seek therapy 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:33 PM
3

murica moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:58 PM
5

You're still confusing "legal" with "ethical." Whose ethics are these? Who has a monopoly on "ethics"? Why are yours "the right ones"? I mean I'd chose the law over the numerous "ethic" standards of american denominations who believe being gay, while legal, is abominable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:57 PM
1

Most 21-25 year olds are too smart to run into war. most of 21-25 year olds in the 1920s were the core base of Mussolini's blackshirts bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:49 PM
8

this makes no sense or whatsoever. Two adults, both consenting, who else is there to "ask" for permission?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:48 PM
6

Your logic is no different than that of a trad-pilled guy shaming childfree women who travel and go clubbing instead of becoming a stay at home wife and rearing children.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:34 PM
9

We also need to stop calling every relationship that doesn't work out "trauma", they are throwing around the word colloquially . No, realizing the older guy you dated who still lived with his mom turned out to be more into his bikes than pursuing a big boy career and starting a family did not cause you "trauma", you just grew apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:19 PM
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And a 30 year old man trying to fuck a teenager does sound pretty predatory. Ok, a 18 year old, even if adult, is still a teenager, but how can americans pull the "barely legal" shit with someone 21+ is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:13 PM
5

Most women on tinder are chubby/ overweight themselves . Why would “pizza, netflix & chill” women need a ripped guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:19 PM
2

How tall is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:17 PM
3

Time to chase women at the local home depot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:08 PM
2

this woman, and thousands of other women who say they have the same problem, clearly do not know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:36 PM
4

Insecurity is a lot easier to sniff out than someone who’s a douchebag, no, its just women being attracted to the douche because it comes with an aura of confidence while insecurity in a man has no redeeming qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:29 PM
5

I'm deconstructing what hides behind modern therapy-speak for the bullshit it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:19 PM
8

yeah, the male equivalent of this would be a average guy barging into a club, picking the hottest bombshell on the dance floor, approaching her and upon getting rejected saying she is “shallow” for not giving him a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:44 AM
9

def the ones who use the phrase “emotionally unavailable” use it almost exclusively to denote a negative/toxic experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:24 AM
21

women themselves say they were “hurt” , had “trauma” or were “ruined” by “emotionally unavailable” men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:21 AM
8

she certainly is available to the “emotionally unavailable” man she’s chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:15 AM
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no one is lying here. The emotionally unavailable jerk not keen on cultivating deep convos with her is his way of telling her “Im just here for the sex”. I mean… are women incapable of reading the room after a good dicking?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:10 AM
2

"how I sexually harassed my friends and made them uncomfortable." I am not entirely responsible for her "discomfrot". When I was working as a barman I got hit on by gay dudes. I could easily react in a homophobic way by saying "omg why can't homos stick to grindr" , but I didn't. I took it as a compliment, rejected the advance and moved on. Only neurotic narcissists are hypersensitive to this feeling of "discomfort".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:33 PM
-1

neurotics who obsess and worry over what might come off as “creepy” to some ironically end up supporting further dehumanisation by promoting the use of shit like dating apps. Our society is already alienated and atomised enough and recent research even suggests that using swipe-based technology is associated with higher levels of anxiety, depression, and emotional distress.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:11 PM
4

dating apps are terrible. everything is geared toward buying the "premium" paid versions which are only marginally less frustrating than the free ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:30 PM
6

I don’t think it’s women treating you as one of the girls. I think it’s women treating you as a platonic friend. Wrong. As I pointed out: by attaining the "one of the girlies" status women in you social circle will never try to hook you up with any of their single girl friends. You cease to exist as a real man in a heterosexual sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:27 PM
1

I used “one of the girls” phrasing because it usually happens to men who women are at ease discussing girly topics with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:39 PM
5

tell me about it😭
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:35 PM
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Why is flirting or expressing sexual interest not treating women as people? I happen to be attracted to people! This should be completely uncontroversial, but it isn't. I am discussing a feminist/bluepillers pov here. From what I gather they dislike the idea of approaching/expressing interest prior to establishing a platonic commonality with a woman. On the other hand they seem to absolutely despise guys who, after establishing platonic commonality, would suggest something more, often accusing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:08 PM
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yeah, but I'm talking about bluepillers guilt tripping the tamest nice guys into believeing they are treating women as "sex objects" if their main reason to get-to-know someone is a romantic one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:53 PM
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because people really imply that being so. I heard countless examples of a guy asking if he should chat up a woman as “objectifying” because she happens to be a stranger he found attractive ie his goal being to “stick his d into her” eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:44 PM
1

it compares men to swamp creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:04 PM
18

women are all about analogies with animal kingdoms and cavemen until it comes to their rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:56 PM
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Why do you think being incompatible with someone means they are "subpar?" because they compare them to a swamp, maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:10 PM
-2

Women often say makeup doesn't change bone structure. Correct. But in a woman it doesn't have to. No one is expecting them to have sharp jawlines and chiseled faces, even if its a plus when they do. So the "hot goddess" here can range from being someone model like Olivia Wilde to a baby faced twitch streamer with chubby thighs and a overbite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:09 PM
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most men? or just the ones women find hot and chase?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 03:47 PM
12

“the he feminist girlboss doesn’t need a man” apparently she does considering how she yaps about there being “no real men” out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:53 PM
7

this sub is full of advice that seems to combine the impossible: finding a partner without ever having to bother a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:04 PM
9

most men just want a looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:10 PM
7

this is a amalgam of what the average woman online is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:09 PM
9

redpillers and women often overlap in their advice, women merely express the same thing more politely. Tate would ask where is your bugatti, a woman will ask if you have a prosperous career.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:07 PM
2

yes, but at the end the true intent doesn’t matter. It’s a confusing advice that keeps frustrated lonely confused and self conscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:06 PM
1

calm down smugie, they also have aoc set at 14-15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:15 PM
2

This. I'm a guy who cares great care of his appearance, we're talking metrosexual levels here. I use sunscreen every day, shave, wear fitting clothes, get my hair cut every 3 weeks, make sure I smell nice and look fresh every time I go out (I even got my teeth whitened recently). Still no interest from women. All this while women will have sex with guys who have bad breath and visible tartar stains on their teeth and then encourage them to "brush their teeth more".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:32 AM
1

That is a contract and both parties should only make sign it based on informed consent. Your comparison is as stupid as that Metallica antipiracy ad where they compare peer-to-peer data sharing to a guy barging into your room and raping your girlfriend and then drinking half your pepsi.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:55 AM
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I for one am glad that the taboos around mental health are falling and people can seek professional help without stigma around it. But women here flaunt it as a badge of honor , they make you feel as if you’re the one that is fucked in the head because you aren’t visiting a shrink.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:55 PM
0

it was about remote-managing adult women's decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:03 PM
1

this isn't about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:51 PM
5

i wish people would keep their snouts out of the bedrooms of consenting adults. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:44 PM
6

why are we to believe a 30 something old man is “crusty old creaky knees” territory, if the wall at 30 is a misogynistic myth?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:29 PM
2

ours are 18+ do americans have a different age? are you gonna cluster bomb us to raising it to 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:06 PM
3

there are no contemporary studies that show that women in age gap relationships are more at risk for intimate-partner-violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:02 PM
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The good old "it's not illegal so it should be socially accepted" I mean people did this with gay and interracial couples long after they had been "Legal". As late as the 2000s the argument was "just because homosexuality isn't illegal it doesn't make it right" implying some moral standard outside legality. In the 1980s half of americans questioned in a poll though that even if legal it wasn't morally right to marry outside your race.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:28 PM
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“laws are keeping them from” “they are willing to do worse” we are talking about consensual relations between adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:20 PM
2

Some people have fucked up sexuality which makes them attracted to violent agressive So most women have issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:28 PM
-1

Maturity. Experience. Therapy. A woman doesn't have to be a a xanax popping girlboss to have sex with a older guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:21 PM
-5

ponding about the future sex life of your underage nieces is mad sus bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:17 PM
1

he's the type of poster who, if the age of adulthood was raised to 25, would go "her brains have barely finished developing you sick fuck!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:03 PM
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An 18 year old with a prefrontal cortex that is not fully developed The prefrontal cortex is responsible for decision making and impulse control. To think we trust these people to operate 3000lbs motor vehicles that can go up to 160mph is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:51 PM
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I saw relationships like that. The women still went to college and had their own life, friends, career + were dating an older guy. What would the problem be here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:55 AM
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People here refuse to acknowledge that we are living in a period where young adult women are freer to choose their partner than ever in history. Think about it: they aren't pressured into marrying these men out of survival, or because their parents would force them to. A lot of young women here go on to study, party and travel the world now. And people still think they're victims for having a fling with an older guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:28 AM
0

There are different social stages to being an adult Life stages? Are childfree women in their 30s "immature" because they opt to travel and party instead of being married and rearing children at that point in life? I think women broke the concept of "appropriate" behavior for ones age, now they just get to own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:09 AM
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It’s very odd to me when people act like people in their 30s aren’t miles ahead of 20 year olds in terms of maturity. Neither of them needs "wisdom" for chemistry, good sex and vibes to happen. Women are not coin slot machines where sex falls out if you're "wise" and "mature". They have sex with men they're attracted to. I know plenty of fat women who go for gymbros, because thy are not attracted to their fat male counterpart even though they probably share a more similar lifestyle with the fat …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:59 AM
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Why are you trying to pedobait this thread so hard? It is about age gap relationship among ADULTS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:48 AM
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They trying to frame me as redpiller who thinks less of older women . People should really check my post history, while I'm toxic rage baiter in some aspects yes, I never dunk on older women, neither do I believe they "hit the wall at 35 and lose value" or some denigrating shit. I'm just pointing out inconsistencies in woke morality. edit: They never married and are still living as boyfriend and girlfriend. My uncle is a man of paradoxes. A right winger, but offended whenever someone brings race…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:44 AM
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cause it's icky. Gay sex is seen as "icky" to many, doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it happening between two consenting adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:37 AM
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The "life stage" thing which is a notion rife with social conservatism - first you don't need the same "lifestage" for attraction and chemistry to happen. Secondly, in the west we don't really have a rigid social system where one is expected to stay confined to a certain role anymore. I mean we shame "loser men" for coasting on chemistry and looks when dating a younger woman because they should be at XYZ stage in their life, but people recoil and cry "misogynist" when some trad guy would shame a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:30 AM
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I think americans need their moral panics. I remember watching interviews made in the early 1960s on the streets of Jackson Mississippi asking people about what they think about interracial marriage, and replies were like "Its the first step toward legalizing bestiality" , I think a lot of people against age gaps use a similiar reasoning when they try to frame 19 year olds as "kids you can legally fuck".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:04 AM
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would be one thing if 18 year olds were abandoning education, their friends, prospects of a career just to be wed off to 40 year old man. But this isn't happening in most age-gap relationships here. In reality people "have a problem" with a college aged woman in some fwb/situationship with a 30 year old she sees on the weekend for vibes and sex and who isn't some machiavellian control freak trying to turn her into a housemaid slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:28 AM
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They can. Yet hearing this type of reasoning coming from from left/progressive leaning people is hilarious because they seem unaware of the logical trappings of their argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:19 AM
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women will literally say “what does this voluptuous queen see in that out of shape guy” and it would be just two fat people dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:08 AM
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you are just repackaging what guys like Andrew Tate say by sprinkling it with therapeutic new age vocalburary. He crudely asks “what color is your Bugatti” you ask “do you have a prosperous career you are passionate about” . It’s the same rat-race mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 09:52 PM

I think the assumption that makeup and fashion makes women 'more attractive' is flawed, since makeup doesnt necessarily make a woman more attractive unless you already think it does, and this logic of makeup better a person isnt applied to men, who can also just wear makeup to 'be more attractive' but theyre not expected or encouraged to True, makeup doesn't change ones bone structure. The good thing is that in women it doesn't have too. No one is expecting them to have modelesque jawlines, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:38 PM

you sure about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:20 PM

All of those body types are still “young only because I'm comparing appeal of sexes of the same age bracket. I'm a early 30s asian guy. Dark brown hair, pale skin, 5'10 and slender. My cousin is a early 30s woman. She has dark brown hair, pale skin is 5'7 and slender as well. People say we look alike, like brother and sister. However she is seen as hot by men of all ages, and is considered beautiful by other women. I am seen as a meh guy lookswise. I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:06 PM

all you do is say “tall young beautiful curvy women and short young beautiful curvy women who are both feminine!”, Yes, I gave you 3 different female body types; tall and lean, short and chubby, short and skinny - that all can pass as attractive in their own right. You also claim that short curvy woman is the "feminine ideal", but I see men and women claim that the ideal is a skinny, dainty woman. So we have at least 2 different body types both seen as ideal feminine form to their respective aud…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:44 PM

the body composition of overweight women is a preference among many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:22 PM

Cultural expectations around feminine beauty are, at least compared to masculine beauty, lax. Take for example two sliblings: the guy is tall and athletic, has broad shoulders and a chiseled face. He will probably be seen as conventionally attractive by many. His his long-legged fit sister is also seen as conventionally attractive, if not model-like. Now take a short latina woman with a round baby face and thick thighs: again many people find this body type even more beautiful than the victoria …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:16 PM

Women that age are as invisible as your average 25 year old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:18 AM

point is that women select based on immutable traits, a short man can't really doll himself up, like a woman can.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:59 AM

but women say they are “doing it for themselves”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:24 AM

I get my hair cut every 3 weeks (I got thick hair), got my teeth whitened, dress according to my body shape and use bbcream to even out my complexion, and I found out women don't really care about any of this shit. It simply is irrelevant to the heterosexual female gaze. I get compliments from gay dudes saying I'm a "pretty boy", but the average woman my age wants a roll-out-of-the-bed attractive tall guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:03 AM

What standards are they abiding? The average woman in the US is overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:50 AM

a short woman with a pudgy face, small chin, overbite, can doll herself up and be seen as attractive to many, but a short pudgy faced man cannot achieve this with makeup, because for men the standard itself is being tall and having chiseled features.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:26 AM

the "slob in yesterday's clothes" is not merely taller than her, but taller than the average guy as well. I saw those vids and its always a 6ft+ guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:01 AM

I've also seen short vids where women complain that she took a long time getting all nice and dressed up for a date with her partner while he just shows up...in yesterday's clothes I saw those vids too and the said guy is ALWAYS TALL. So this just shows how focused women are on immutable traits, rather than the effort a man would put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:57 AM

I see a lot of women call Lizzo beautiful, I never see women think the male equivalent of Lizzo is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:50 AM

I’m saving this one unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:57 AM

no, Im not writing a thesis in a comment section format while on my phone just so one redditor will then pick on a grammatical error instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:56 AM

Sure, the austistic person may not be a criminal, but does he have social skills? what social skills? Shanking a guy who looked at you the wrong way?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:10 AM

there are women who like dangerous and aggressive men, there are no women who prefer autistic ones. Think about that for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:08 AM

felons attract "low quality" women, autistic men don't attract anyone at all. Nothing to debate here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:04 AM

i hate those people. Their asexual coping contributes nothing to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:27 PM
-3

Idk on what criteria they are swiping but the average male user has a 2.4% chance of matching with someone on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:43 PM
1

you aren’t entitled to society giving men a restraint order for approaching you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:56 PM
1

don’t lecture us. your society bashed gays and lynched interracial couples not even 50 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:54 PM
1

Don't know if its unwanted unless you approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:02 PM
0

Harassment was, actually still is, defined as repeated unwanted advances. Approaching a woman and asking to grab some coffee sometimes is not harassment. But I see what are you trying to do here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:55 PM
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I never in my life have used a dating app. The times I was approached it was always a woman much younger than me. I suspect this has something to do with me being a asian man and the older ladies came of age before korean dramas made it big here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:42 PM
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We live in a time where women enjoy all the economic, social and political rights to establish themselevs as independent adults. No one is forcing them to date or marry anyone against their will, and women still want to remote-manage other women's decisions. This is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:33 PM
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You are not old, but single women your age are usually staying at home and laser-swiping-left on anything under 6ft.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:17 PM
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you should date people in a similar lifestyle/age bracket. This is like saying a catholic guy raised in the bavarian alps should stick to dating only nice christian girls instead of going for the moroccan baddie he met in Ibiza.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:11 PM
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“far more attractive women than men” because you gas up average women. people will say “what does this voluptuous queen see in this out of shape man” and it will literally be just two fat people dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:14 AM
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They really don't. Men rate women on a bell curve, this alone means that different men will find way more different types of women attractive, their type is found on a spectrum. With women it's concentrated on the same few men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:10 PM
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The menz SURE AREN'T doing that. men rate women in a bell curve, so their type isn't concentrated to a few. she's happy living her life, she is more likely to be on xanax. she might desire a relationship someday, they're already in "situationships".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:03 PM
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most young men are single. most young women are not. Its very simple arithmetic. Several women can date or have a "situationship" with a single guy. This automatically means several guys will be left without date while others will have a "roster".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:52 PM
4

Women are individuals. Why would an individual be expected to click with or vibe with a majority of men? they often seem to click and vibe with the same men, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:39 PM
2

this only works if you're at least average relative to the environment you're trying to date in. A guy who doesn't fit the mold of the environment, say a slender east asian guy with a otherwise nice face, who isn't ugly by any stretch could have a massively hard time dating in a environment where the standard is tall bearded country boy. He would have to mass approach and comb through dozens of women to get to that one whose taste divert from the norm there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:37 PM
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the whole "men not up to woman's standard" is by bluepillers, women, mainstream media NEVER framed as a physical attraction issue, that is incel speak they say. Men, we are told, are "lacking" in the personality department and modern women are not putting up with it anymore. Framing ones inability to attract with a character or even moral flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:23 PM
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man fucks women = stud, player man had sex with another man = gross, ick women in 2025 more homophobic than your local chavs is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:31 AM
7

“you can literally be in your pajamas connecting with matches” What matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:21 PM
1

The lesser extent being that if we got hit on by a fattie, we wouldn't be downright rude or hostile about it but I would feel a bit insulted. Plenty of chubby chasers get this field covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:42 PM
3

for this to work you really need agency and a dosage of genuine contempt to view someone as beneath you , don't pin it on "muh patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:39 PM
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40% of autistic men have never been in a relationship, compared to only 14% of autistic women. Seems like the “compassionate sex” filters out men with autism out much harsher than men do autistic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:37 AM
1

I'm invisible to women my age. Why do you think you are invisible to women your own age? (I myself am invisible to women my age as well and suspect it has something to do with my generation growing up in a pre-kpop/kdrama era)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:18 PM
0

You won't find any western studies (done in the US or EU) establishing that age gap marriages in the west lend themselves to a meaningfully higher rate of IPV relative to other pairings. Bluepillers bringing this up into the discussion as an "argument" but would never problematize same-sex couples who are consistently topping the lists and interracial ones scoring higher monoracial makes this a case of a heavily biased framing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:39 PM
6

this could extend to third spaces such as coffee shops, <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:10 PM
1

stats also show that interracial couples have higher IPV rates than mono racial ones too. But I never hear bluepillers bring this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:56 PM
2

utter sensationalist dribble.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:47 PM
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This is 100% true and not even limited to men on the spectrum. I can't find the thread right now, but it was in one of those dating advice subs. One guy who was east asian was asking how not to get routinely friendzoned by women who seem to have loved him as a person, friend and confidant, but never found him attractive sexually in the slightest. The most upvoted advice came from a guy (also asian american) who explained to him that for the majority of western women the image of a attractive man…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:45 AM
6

O said that about women in the US and Europe expecting a nonchalantness about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:37 AM
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I worked in a hotel that was quite international and east asian men would behave more cute and goofy with their girlfriends while white/black boyfriend all had this force nonchalant facade on all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:11 AM
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looking for women in The Philippines during the pandemic and holy shit, it's a completely different world over there. It is hella ironic how western women seem to be more woke on these issues and keen on deconstructing hegemonic masculinity, but at the same time there is almost a zero tolerance policy for awkward men. They will get the "ick" over a guy doing the most innocuous things...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:10 AM
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No one is more “redpilled” on the importance of masculinity than autistic men. The reason even most feminist women get an “ick” from them seems to boil down to their inability to develop nonchalant masculine body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:27 AM
2

they want the long term with the hot guys and women , in a attempt to be relatable, compare attention from average dudes as feeling the same as if a straight guy would be getting hit on by gay men - think about it, average guys aren’t even considered men in a heterosexual sense
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:39 PM
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predation implies criminal intent. You’re (mis)using it as emotional power phrase like a evangelical republican on a campaign trail.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:08 PM
3

When I was a teenager I didn't even consider 35 year old women "old", if they were hot I just saw them as hot adult women, and milfs were something I thought was 40+.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:45 PM
2

jesus bro you’re making it sound like sticking noses in the bedrooms of consenting adults is something new.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:55 PM
1

And the 18 yo girl will see that once shes 35. given the encounter is consensual, what will she see? That old people are past their prime ghouls? lol tho think this is the same demographic that denies the wall happening at 30 is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:31 PM
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during the Obama years reddit was all "what goes on in the bedroom of consenting adults is none of your fucking business", but these days its more like "isn't there somebody you forgot to ask?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:24 PM
1

Is giving party drugs to an 18 year old so they can have a good time at a rave good or bad? sounds like you're the psycho here, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:20 PM
1

what happened? was there a crime? or a vicitm… of what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:15 PM
5

seek therapy 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:13 PM
0

why are you bringing this up in a thread clearly discussing age gap relationship between ADULTS?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:12 PM
3

“Prostitution is preferable over a woman genuinely falling for an older man” 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:56 PM
1

I’m in Europe, but grown men doing it as a full time job it’s seen as sad you're anglo, which explains why you think like you do. The rat race mentality dominates the anglosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:30 PM
4

And I only see that now looking back at it, in a healthy marriage with only a 3 year age gap (instead of a >10 <15 AGR, long term and short term). When my frontal lobe kicked in, it hit me hard. the "frontal lobe develops 25" thing is junk framed pop science, it has been debunked the same way "we only use 10% of our brain" factioid was. From what info I gather from your comment alone is that nothing really happened to you: they didn't coerce you into anything, prevent you from doing anything... …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:24 PM
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I live in a turisty coastal area where sommeliers and bartenders are often times older men with families. The first time I heard people think this isn't a "real" job was on reddit from americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:11 PM
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depends on who you ask. In Europe bartending is seen as a honest and respectable job, americans who are much more materialistically inclined tend to devalue a work if it doesn't denote high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:52 AM
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The vast majority of people have jobs, "careers" is a way americans cope in a workaholic culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:43 AM
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Trying to lure you to somewhere private, trying to use you for a good time, all under the guise of trying to date you, but I'm sure you're somehow not talking about these individuals and I've gotten it all wrong, right? Thats the profile of an average fuccboi, they come in all ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:40 AM
0

at a roughly 50/50 gender ratio how are the majority of young women in relationship while most young men are single?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:46 AM
1

what laws are there against chatting up women and asking them to grab coffee?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:06 PM
1

You cant please everyone. As an immigrant I trigger feelings of neighborhood skinheads too who must cohabitate with me, why should I care if my pursuit happiness (which includes finding a girlfriend) causes discomfort to nazis and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:58 PM
4

it doesnt happen like that to guys who actually get to fuck. If anything the ones who get to have sex with women in their social circle their reputation actually grows and they become even more intriguing to them. It has the opposite effect with a guy who gets friendzoned by one girl, after that with each new attempt he gets closer to be seen as desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:21 PM
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I get the leagues thing (surely if someone is unkempt and fat shouldn’t be surprised if they get rejected when aiming for fit slim women) I try to abide the little unwritten rules about it. But this is easier to gouge if you are average relative to the enviroment you’re in - if you are for example a minority male you never really know your leauge because it usually also depends on whether that woman is even open to other groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:33 PM
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there are no spaces to develop familiarity. Everything is a giant shopping mall or a gas station.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:02 PM
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true, I didn’t 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:45 PM
5

the "what do you have to offer to a woman" thing has been done to death... "Nice guys" are not traditionalists, they often are often quite liberal around gender dynamics and usually expect to find a equal partner who will have genuine hots for them as romantic partners, not providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:27 PM
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there is a lot of guys in these circles who don't fit the alpha mold as well. Don't forget women get "ick" over minor things such as a guy lacking masculine body language (talking with his hands too much, campy mannerisms etc) . Of corse young men perceived as effeminate will watch redpill gurus to learn alpha posturing but go overboard with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:00 PM
-2

What were you doing wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:48 PM
15

Its more of cynicism and mocking of current society where egalitarianism is the main thing, but the dating market does not reflect these espoused values.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:12 PM

this seems to be a communication issue: one side talks about standards, the other sees the pre-selection is based on types.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:26 PM
4

What exactly here it is meant by "chasing"? If it includes "making the first move" then many more men will be left out. Its not like they have a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:24 AM

please tell me you didn't just compare not gettin pussy to being a victim of an absolutely atrocious genocide? No, I was comparing a fasting yogi to a victim of involuntary starvation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:21 PM
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"women already approach just no you" can we please stop diverting the discussion with this? u/Temporary_Cow clearly implies here that things would change if the cultural expectations around making the first move was placed on the women to the same extent as it is right now on men. Sure "Chads" get approached, but these are still outliers. The reality is that on average men still do majority of the approaching, asking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:14 PM

They are happy, think about it; even if the itch gets unbearable, there is tinder, or hinge, or if you're uneasy with the idea of hooking up with a stranger, they have a pool of readily accessible guys in the friendzone or other male acquaintances. Anyone would be "happily single" with such an arrangement. This is not the type of total romantic drought the average single man goes through, tho. Its like comparing a fasting yogi with a auschiwtz inmate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:02 PM
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all masculinity is performative, the only difference is that women’s lizard brain sees a big rugged guy who is quiet and think of him as the “strong silent type” while a calm short scrawny guy is more likely to be percieved as “timid” or if he is not judged as “compensating” for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:11 PM

guy who likes ass more wont be bothered if you have small boobs, a guy who prefers big boobs will not mind a small flatter ass. What I am saying is that men are flexible in this. It isn’t nearly as much of a deal breaker as a mans height is for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:01 PM

Men separate themselves into ass-men and boob-guys. There is no equivalent of this found among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:55 PM

women literally think a young Al Pacino was “unconventionally attractive” or “ugly hot” lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:50 AM

lol on tinder and hinge most guys get filtered out based on height alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:45 AM

At least when compared to guys women really do have a narrower spectrum of what counts as attractive. I mean just look at the comments in this thread: Guys will be like “I am attracted to thicc, bbw girls” a body shape that actually is the diametrical opposite of what women claim to be the beauty standard (runway model skinny) - while women in this thread say things like “I sure do love some ugly hot rodent men” and it will be a "Chad" with a slightly crooked nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:36 AM

those two guys are firmly within parameters of conventionally attractive anywhere outside Hollywood. They appear to deviate from it because you compare them to anglo-saxon hunk male leads. Brody is ashkenazi jewish so naturally he wont look like a Hemsworth. Jesus, lady, just because a guy has ethnic features doesn’t mean he’s “unconventional” or “ugly hot”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:47 AM
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