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I've been doing finasteride and rogaine for years, balding is completely halted. Yes, I does work. Not concerned about the sexual side effects (because they don't exist for me - I fuck multiple times per week). If my balding ever resumes I'd just shave that shit off, no rugs for me, fuck surgery. I have considered this guy: http://www.drproctor.com but his stuff is very expensive. Does seem to be very legit though.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/14 04:53 PM
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I did the initial messaging. No real concern about age.
/r/seduction08/10/14 07:19 PM
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Lol, you're probably right. Figures.
/r/seduction08/10/14 06:50 PM
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I don't know why you're being downvoted.
/r/seduction08/10/14 04:59 PM
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If the lady wasn't serious, I have no idea why she was even talking to me.
/r/seduction08/10/14 03:54 PM
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Of course it's real life. I got my 20ish girlfriend via what many of the old-school gamers here consider a "cheat" - online dating (OKC).
/r/seduction08/10/14 03:54 PM
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Actually I just spent the next 24hrs thinking about the 40ish blonde and then fucked the shit out of my 20ish girlfriend. Wouldn't have done anything differently
/r/seduction08/10/14 12:17 AM
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Repost to /r/askseddit/ please
/r/seduction02/10/14 11:12 PM
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I've read this post a couple times and I'm wondering, what is "safe kino"? Is that like, 'refraining from reaching over to randomly grab her boobs'?
/r/seduction27/09/14 08:03 PM
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Are you striking out? If that's the case, they mean you probably have everything except you're not communicating sexual intent.
/r/seduction27/09/14 06:47 PM
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At some point you have to just go for it. Remember - you have much more to lose from not trying to kiss her than you do from trying.
/r/seduction27/09/14 05:32 PM
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If you're not sexting or setting up dates, its a waste of time
/r/seduction26/09/14 11:08 PM
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Nursing homes
/r/seduction26/09/14 10:16 PM
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Solution I've always come up with is don't push for sex. Just try to kiss them as soon as possible. Sex typically follows if they are at all open to it.
/r/seduction26/09/14 09:42 PM
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In my very limited experience (focusing on free options): Blendr / Badoo: Profiles tend to be sparse and uninformative. Have had one date with a K-close come of it, but that's it. POF: Shitty interface, but lots of options. Haven't used it long enough to get dates. Tinder: No dates, plenty of matches, a good number of convos. Get a sense that the best way to use it is if it's early on a Saturday evening and you want to get an instadate (and hookup) with someone. Not very good for going on planne…
/r/seduction26/09/14 07:51 PM
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If they say "I'm not having sex with you" - then you are to be congratulated, as you have successfully (at least on some level) communicated intent! That's kind of all I'm saying.
/r/seduction26/09/14 07:04 PM
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That sounds like classic oneitis - fits the definition perfectly. Leave her, move on, fuck 10 more girls. It will get better.
/r/seduction26/09/14 06:30 PM
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Asking girls to come to my apartment to have tea has always worked.
/r/seduction26/09/14 03:30 PM
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When they say "I'm not having sex with you" the fact is you're far further along then you think - because they are actively thinking about having sex with you at that point.
/r/seduction26/09/14 03:29 PM
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You really should post this in AskSeddit. But since I'm here - she probably is digging you but your window of opportunity to move on her seems pretty small from what I can tell.
/r/seduction25/09/14 03:39 PM
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I've been playing with Tinder a bit but I'm not a fan myself either. May just not work with my personality. Much more success with OKC. Anyways, two things strike me - you sound very impatient as you type, and you keep repeating you're 'not needy,' over and over again... thou dost protest much perhaps? Second, always be specific about setting up a date. Always suggest a time and place. Don't just say "wanna hang out sometime"? Also all this emphasis on being "nonthreatening" sounds like overkill…
/r/seduction23/09/14 11:15 PM
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How do you figure out if she's reciprocating? You get her on a date
/r/seduction21/09/14 04:38 PM
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This isn't actually uncommon http://www.buzzfeed.com/annanorth/study-pickup-artist-training-works-but-makes-you#uby3h2
/r/seduction20/09/14 01:47 PM
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Don't stress about it so much. Just do it. Pretend you're eating an ice cream cone (don't lick it, just eat it). Good kissing eventually is like communication. You sort of "listen" as you do it.
/r/seduction19/09/14 01:51 PM
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I personally think some people are more wired for monogamy and some people are more wired for polygamy. It's less about time management and more about innate preferences. Yes, you can make time for multiple women.
/r/seduction19/09/14 05:28 AM
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I think people tend to use the word oneitis incorrectly around here. Oneitis means you're pining away for an unattainable girl. Oneitis doesn't mean getting attached to a girl who's available and whom you're dating.
/r/seduction08/09/14 02:05 PM
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Desperation will not get you laid
/r/seduction04/09/14 01:07 PM
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Hey bud - I had an emotionally smothering Mom (may have been abusive in some ways too). I remember when I was younger I would totally freeze when an interested girl was staring me in the face, waiting for me to kiss her. I think the thing is you have to treat this as a bit of a video game at first, you're practicing some skills here, trying to fake it till you make it. When you see the girl throw off IOIs you need to acknowledge it and go for it. Don't wait for some feeling to sweep you off your…
/r/seduction04/09/14 01:03 PM
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In my very limited experience, I've let the girl lead with texting and follow the 1:1 rule where possible, and that seems to work. Current girl I'm seeing this weekend has been odd - major flirting and banter has (and continues to) take place over text. Have already had date #1 with her including major k-close. She'll be coming over to my apartment this friday. Last few texts between us, very steamy.
/r/seduction04/09/14 12:59 PM
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I'm extremely new to texting girls. Currently seeing two, one has been an even mix of phone and texting, the second seems to prefer flirting and banter via text.
/r/seduction04/09/14 01:25 AM
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Well kino is something (I have a feeling) lots of guys do in an uncalibrated fashion and/or too rapidly and makes them look creepy. Also, you have to be intelligent, funny, and charming and do a good, progressive kino escalation AT THE SAME TIME.
/r/seduction03/09/14 01:07 PM
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KINO: I've backed off my criticism of this because it's so poorly received on here, but I'll state it just because - kino doesn't build attraction. Kino can reveal if a girl is dtf/interested in you, build some sexual tension, and subtly tell a girl you're sexually interested in her. But it definitely won't build or create attraction. Fascinating! This last weekend I had two dates. Both I did my usual kino routine, touching shoulder, high fives, etc. As the first date progressed, she started tou…
/r/seduction03/09/14 12:57 PM
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Yeah, fap more I guess. Or find yourself an FWB that lives nearby and can see you frequently. I DK
/r/seduction03/09/14 12:32 PM
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It doesn't seem to go towards the goal of practicing natural self confidence, but maybe that's just me.
/r/seduction02/09/14 01:04 PM
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I always start with shoulder touches and then move on to holding their hands (examining nailpolish, jewelry, etc.) and then following it with a kiss on the cheek, which you could do after getting their number. That probably would help make the number close more solid.
/r/seduction02/09/14 06:14 AM
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I was wondering about this question myself. When I first started practicing game a couple months ago (I'm still very much a noob), I told myself that if I k-closed a few girls and found one I could f-close and keep fucking, I'd be happy. Now after I've accomplished that I've decided I want to have up to three girls I can consistently be fucking, in a rotation. After that happens, who knows? Maybe I'll begin wanting to see how I feel about a series of fun ONS type things. Trying to fuck a dozen g…
/r/seduction02/09/14 06:11 AM
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That was a shit test
/r/seduction01/09/14 02:38 PM
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There should be no waiting to do it. Whenever it can be worked it and have it feel natural. But again, as soon as possible.
/r/seduction01/09/14 05:05 AM
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I agree with you on this. Most of the PUA material I've seen really isn't well-integrated with the ever-changing social medial landscape, or particularly dating sites, which continue to grow their respective user bases. I disagree that demonstration of value and building comfort and attraction is only done face to face - I k-closed on the first date (met her on OKC) last night and did a very large amount of playful teasing and banter, and even a little disqualification - which served me very wel…
/r/seduction01/09/14 01:12 AM
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She kids me first on the cheek, so it seems safe to kids her back. When she kept responding well, time for the kids on her mouth. :-)
/r/seduction01/09/14 12:59 AM
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Well, there's two things going on. First, yes, it's possible to gain a person's heart and desire by being great in bed. There's some interesting neurobiology of bonding that happens when people have sex - there's a rush of dopamine into the pleasure centers of the brain (the mesolimbic dopamine reward system) which tells you, "I really like this, I want to keep doing this." But then there's another neurohormonal response that occurs with both the partners - there's the rush of oxytocin, the bond…
/r/seduction31/08/14 08:36 PM
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Good conversation is about striking a balance between being a good listener and showing interest, but defaulting towards giving value in the conversation. When you ask a lot of questions and "interview" the girl, you're value taking more than value giving. That becomes a chore for her and it also makes you less interesting. But always make sure she's part of the conversation when you give value - it's not a monologue.
/r/seduction31/08/14 06:07 PM
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I'm exclusively focused on online dating too - so far I've made it work for me. Here's my take: The big problem is you not trying to kiss girls as quickly as you can. Period. Regardless of whether you jump ship first or not (sounds like you do), if you don't try to kiss them, it won't go anywhere. Practice eating soft serve ice cream cones, and then use it on the girl. Kissing is also like communication - it's not something you do to a girl, it's something you do with a girl. My take is not kiss…
/r/seduction31/08/14 05:00 PM
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Not much to teach. Although I'm over relying on online game and dating sites for approach, once I meet them for a date the basics of the stuff I've read here about practicing confidence, leading, avoiding neediness, kino, and basically just trying to kiss girls as quickly as possible after you meet them seems to work just fine. I still have work to do (e.g., getting more comfortable with live approaches and trying to hook and close with girls f2f), but I'm happy the direction things are going.
/r/seduction31/08/14 03:45 PM
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I don't see how social dynamics ("pick up game"), strictly speaking, can really directly help with this problem. It's really just about straightforward, open, and honest dialogue with the person you're interested in. Unless I'm missing something.
/r/seduction31/08/14 02:07 PM
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Why the need to settle down?
/r/seduction31/08/14 01:07 AM
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Yeah 10 minutes really doesn't sound long enough to build attraction and interest unless you're an expert. I personally would take longer.
/r/seduction31/08/14 12:50 AM
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How long have you been reading about game? There's probably some basic things you need to start trying to do. Stop focusing on being their friend. Learn to tease girls, joke with them. Practice banter, flirting, and innuendo. Kino, kino, and more kino escalation. Lead in the interaction, be a man. Then kiss them you fool.
/r/seduction31/08/14 12:46 AM
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You need to lose that feeling. The fact is you're a guy, there's no biological clock, you can knock someone up until you're a doddering old geezer. Calm down or you're going to make some big mistakes. I'm 39, recently divorced, and the world is my oyster. I'm currently fucking a 29 year old and I have a date with a 30 year old tonight and a 34 year old tomorrow. If it doesn't work out with any of them, it doesn't work out - and so I move on to the next crop of women. No big deal.
/r/seduction31/08/14 12:39 AM
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Every girl wants to be kissed, right? EVERY average girl is at least as horny as every average guy, even the religious, good girls you're so concerned about. And if you don't want to fuck them, fine, at least try and stick your tongue down their throats, they'll friend zone you if you don't try.
/r/seduction30/08/14 09:54 PM
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You just keep escalating until they stop you (provided you're not assaulting them or anything). This seems more about your mindset than anything else. If you convince them that they're too good for you to be sexual with them, friend zone will quickly loom.
/r/seduction30/08/14 09:35 PM
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Oh, I already told her I can't guarantee I won't be seeing other women. She said OK, she wants to continue to see me anyways. I was kind of surprised by that, almost expected her to break up with me. So I said, whelp, I'll just game some more girls then. Got a date tonight and another tomorrow with two new women. Is it oneitis when I've already been fucking her like crazy? Just asking.
/r/seduction30/08/14 09:32 PM
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I agree with quitting porn though. Nothing to be lost there.
/r/seduction30/08/14 04:42 PM
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The type of girls I've been going out with.... Really good girls. Religious. I'm LTR hunting so to speak. I think that might be a problem right there. If you tell yourself these are "good girls" and hold back in showing sexual intent, whether its via innuendo, flirting, or banter they'll go cold on you. You can remain completely in the potential boyfriend frame while at the same time showing strong sexual interest. It doesn't matter of they're "religious" or "good girls" - provided they're not a…
/r/seduction30/08/14 04:23 PM
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Let it go. If she wants to make the drive, she'll do it and it's basically green light to fuck the shit out of her after she arrives. If she doesn't want to make the drive, no amount of texting will change that - and worse, the texting will demonstrate over investment. Go game other girls.
/r/seduction30/08/14 04:18 PM
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What are these "compliments"? And do you banter and flirt with them? Is there innuendo in the conversation? Push-pull? Do you engage in confident conversation with them? What kind of kino? More specifics, you're still very vague.
/r/seduction30/08/14 04:09 PM
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The only way she might be useful is as a way of demonstrating social value, particularly if she's hot. Take her out to a bar, have her prominently on display, if she's comfortable with it, get somewhat physical with her. Then pick up other women around her.
/r/seduction30/08/14 03:59 PM
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Where I've travelled, interesting stuff I do at work, interesting factoids about my family, articles I've read on the internet, et cetera. It has to flow with the conversation though, it's not a monologue.
/r/seduction30/08/14 03:54 PM
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I have to say, these suggestions either sound simplistic or just plain retarded.
/r/seduction30/08/14 03:52 PM
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Well, being "their friend" won't work, because you're not with them to be their buddy, you're there to put your dick in them. In terms of "showing interest," what, exactly, are you doing? Be more specific and we can help.
/r/seduction30/08/14 03:50 PM
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TOO OLD???? I'm 39. Fuck you. :-)
/r/seduction30/08/14 03:25 PM
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/annanorth/study-pickup-artist-training-works-but-makes-you
/r/seduction30/08/14 03:17 PM
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Yeah I think that was the mistake. I've gotten good at framing requests as commands. Instead of "would you like to come upstairs with me," you grab her hand or touch the small of her back and lead her, and say, "let's go this way." Girls love it when you lead. When you ask, that gives them permission to say no, it raises the slut shields. They want to be led into it so they can say to themselves afterwards "it just happened! I got swept away!"
/r/seduction30/08/14 03:14 PM
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Don't do it. Leave it alone. You can't build or maintain any significant degree of attraction via texting. It's basically a way to set up dates. If you send a text like you're talking about, you'll seem extra needy and you'll fuck things up.
/r/seduction30/08/14 03:12 PM
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I'm a single (divorced) Dad - you tell her early, in conversation, when you're in the "learning about each other" stage. In terms of introducing her to your kids, I'd say you wait until you're firmly convinced that this girl is a serious, long-term proposition. Otherwise, don't do it, because that's a dick move for your kids.
/r/seduction30/08/14 02:39 PM
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Nice. I'll use that this Saturday night.
/r/seduction29/08/14 01:03 PM
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You just start talking. The trick with online game is you need to start bantering with them and teasing them right away, and that sets the frame for playfulness and then can transition to flirting. Which, of course, has some downsides since the reason you flirt is to use it as a bridge to kino and then k-closes and f-closes, which you can't do online.... but once the banter and flirting starts, and you've done it intelligently enough, they'll be ready to meet you. But if you don't start the ball…
/r/seduction29/08/14 01:53 AM
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The current girl I'm fucking, I ate her out and then whispered in her ear, "I love to eat you out and then climb on top of you and bang you silly." She started moaning and going crazy when I said that, the "bang you silly" line is what did it for her, she said later.
/r/seduction29/08/14 12:52 AM
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Lesson learned from Tinder: I do much better on OKC.
/r/seduction29/08/14 12:50 AM
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You're saying it's not about the numbers, but then you say it's about meeting more people.... It is a numbers game. If there was a frictionless method for prescreenng girls to be FWB, all guys would be doing it, instead we have to meet as many as possible and feel em out.
/r/seduction28/08/14 07:05 PM
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I mostly have time scarcity, I can't close more than 1-2 girls per week tops. Question really is just coming from and honest place, only learned about game about two months ago.... Still new to me
/r/seduction28/08/14 06:53 PM
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Venue is very near my place. Date is at night. I've had two girls there before, one where I k-closed with one and f-closed the other on the same night, only downside is this time it'll be more crowded since it's the weekend, I'll work around that with a quick venue change or two if need be.
/r/seduction28/08/14 06:51 PM
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You asked "can we hook up" after all that? I feel like bitch slapping you, it's sounds like you could have fucked her right then and there. DON'T ASK. Next time, just suck on her earlobe instead you big dummy.
/r/seduction28/08/14 03:33 PM
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Well, lets not make him feel too bad
/r/seduction28/08/14 02:12 PM
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"And when is an approach considered successful?" When you have your penis in their vagina
/r/seduction28/08/14 01:28 PM
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6'3'' here. This is the sense I'm getting. Focus on the tall hot chicks and it should be relatively effortless.
/r/seduction28/08/14 01:27 PM
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Um. Break up with her. Don't stay in a relationship where sex is bad (or nonexistent). It will end very poorly for the both of you if you stay.
/r/seduction28/08/14 05:22 AM
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I think just be prepared for the fact you won't ever have a crystal clear sign, you just have to go for it.
/r/seduction28/08/14 05:13 AM
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I suppose that works. In my very limited experience though, I've overwhelmingly just went for it. Usually when she's staring in my eyes and leaning in slightly.
/r/seduction28/08/14 05:13 AM
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Two things. First, you're really attached to getting pussy. Understandable to a certain degree, but maybe you're overly attached.... That whole "being thirsty" thing. Girls can sense that. Are you able to go into a set and really be OK with her walking away? Hard b/c you haven't gotten your dick wet yet. Second, you said 'you're a nice man.' You need to look at that. You won't get girls to want to fuck you by being nice to them, you know this. If there's any part of you that's being nice to girl…
/r/seduction27/08/14 03:52 PM
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You must have some theory as to why you having gotten laid yet. Help us out.
/r/seduction27/08/14 02:20 PM
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No it's not a bad thing, except you've clearly invested so much into getting laid.
/r/seduction27/08/14 01:57 PM
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You're still a virgin, you can't get any female attention, you've spent thousands on trying to get girls on bed but you haven't been successful, and you're "fine" with it? Explain. Also maybe you can say what your sticking points might be. For someone who sounds like they've put such gargantuan effort into pickup you seem to have little to show for it, there must be some reasons you've identified.
/r/seduction27/08/14 12:40 PM
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Fap. Also you could do what I did and take an SSRI for a week and then quit. I now have typically about a 1/2 hour of stamina in me no matter what happens.
/r/seduction26/08/14 12:56 PM
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True. But she's already declared she doesn't want to see anyone else.
/r/seduction26/08/14 12:42 PM
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I dunno it sounds like you did everything you could there, pretty much
/r/seduction26/08/14 07:45 AM
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Oh good lord it took me at least six months to get laid when I started college. Three weeks?
/r/seduction26/08/14 07:29 AM
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I actually honestly like the current girl I'm seeing. But I just can't do this right now.
/r/seduction26/08/14 02:13 AM
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Ok, so I feel guilty now. Sigh.
/r/seduction26/08/14 01:53 AM
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Ok so I can't avoid feeling a little guilty, even though I told her I was bad relationship material, that I was "likely to get cold feet and want to bolt from this" after I got to know her. I even say in my profile (OKC) I'm not looking for an LTR (although I do say I'm open to it, which is true). My problem is I didn't do a good job shutting the door firmly on an LTR and I told her, yes, that I "really like her," which wasn't a lie..... But was a problem. Oh well, live and learn.
/r/seduction26/08/14 01:51 AM
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Yeah that's something I need to get better at. I'm great at carefully explaining to women I'm new to being single, I'm not good boyfriend material, etc., but then I tell them I like them a lot, show interest in them as a person, etc., which then gets their motors running.
/r/seduction25/08/14 05:07 PM
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Sounds like just a horny version of one-itis. Solution is to game more girls.
/r/seduction25/08/14 04:19 PM
1

Thanks for the advice. Plan is for me to do no contact with her for a day or two (she knows I need space) and then get back to her and let her know that I can't meet the kid yet. Debating whether to also tell her I made a mistake in terms of going exclusive with her this early on (it was a mistake), it now feels like I owe her fidelity, which at this point in the game is silly.
/r/seduction24/08/14 12:14 AM
1

It's not about the stats - and the pics, to a certain degree, don't matter as much as you might think either. You have to approach in online game the same way you do in 'meatspace' game. Girls aren't dumb.
/r/seduction23/08/14 02:21 PM
5

You can look like James Bond next to screaming frat boys. Yeah, and all the other things you said too. I wouldn't underestimate how hot it is for girls to see us self-assured and in control as opposed to smelly and drunk and completely lacking meaningful inhibition.
/r/seduction23/08/14 01:59 PM
1

Don't get drunk at all. The sex is always at minimum 10x better
/r/seduction23/08/14 01:56 PM
3

Yeahp, I know what you're talking about. I was in a terrible, basically /r/deadbedrooms kind of relationship for years that was also dysfunctional in a variety of ways that broke up a few months ago. Just met a girl. Fucking her blind for the past month. She's starting to make noises about getting more serious. I'm thinking of slowing it down much more decisively now. I don't want to do it passive-aggressively, which I've done in the past. You would benefit from just being honest with this girl,…
/r/seduction23/08/14 01:53 PM
4

Whats wrong with the online thing? I hear people dissing it all the time on seddit but they can't get away from the fact that it clearly works well, at least for some people. And, it doesn't involve going to bars. Well, the only alternative left for you is to go to bars and not drink. That's tricky though, much easier to stay away from bars if you're trying to quit completely. Trust me, I know.
/r/seduction23/08/14 01:42 PM
2

I get different quality of information here than there. I think in /r/relationships it ends up being about the girl I'm fucking. Here, the focus is on me. Always good to check back in here.
/r/seduction23/08/14 01:34 PM
0

This may be better suited to /r/relationships but it felt better suited to here for some reason....
/r/seduction23/08/14 01:28 PM
22

Quit. If you don't want to do pickup at bars, don't do it. Work on your daygame. Get a Tinder and OKCupid account. You don't need to ruin your health just to bang chicks. Take care of yourself first.
/r/seduction23/08/14 01:23 PM
2

Agreed, even clumsy kino is better than none at all - and what feels clumsy to you might feel great to her
/r/seduction14/08/14 09:40 PM
5

"Exactly this. 22 is when you get clobbered by women your age because they want to date guys in their lates 20s early 30s." Precisely. The "silverbacks" have an edge. 22 is a time to build your game, not to despair that you might not have it.
/r/seduction12/08/14 01:55 PM
1

Well said
/r/seduction10/08/14 11:56 AM
2

Agree completely. Once you hit the friend zone it's basically impossible to get out. Meet new girls and combine kino with friendly, confident sexual banter and you're good to go.
/r/seduction09/08/14 08:43 PM
1

I'd go with the "don't do it" crowd
/r/seduction09/08/14 08:41 PM
1

Just kiss her when you can. Simple as that. Doing plan.
/r/seduction28/07/14 02:28 PM
1

http://www.buzzfeed.com/annanorth/study-pickup-artist-training-works-but-makes-you Apparently pickup works (research has confirmed it) - but it makes you feel bad about yourself.
/r/seduction27/07/14 01:42 PM
1

Whoop sorry dude I'm late, yes, I paid for her cappuccino
/r/seduction27/07/14 01:22 PM
-1

I kissed three different girls last week and fucked one of them each kiss was different, it's like comparing fingerprints
/r/seduction26/07/14 10:23 PM
6

I'm here because I'm recently single and I want to practice going out and meeting women and being successful with them. I don't want to have the experience of just passively waiting until a woman approaches me and then feeling compelled to stay with them out of desperation. Objectively, I don't want a girlfriend. Subjectively, rebound / oneitis is an obstacle that's pretty tough to surmount right now. So, I do have the pitfalls of looking at women as a way to "complete" me, and also looking at p…
/r/seduction26/07/14 02:17 PM
1

Yeah I'm still on the fence about my hot 26 yo coworker. Yes, dating in the workplace is bad for those reasons, but when has logic ever won out consistently in these matters....
/r/seduction25/07/14 07:52 PM
1

Ur kidding
/r/seduction24/07/14 05:43 AM
1

Not word for word - but pretty much.
/r/seduction24/07/14 02:52 AM
8

ROFLMAO
/r/seduction23/07/14 07:34 PM
1

I sent the additional text. You guys are right, heck, I am looking forward to tonight and so is she, clearly. :-)
/r/seduction22/07/14 05:04 PM
1

Oh I didn't deliberately wait an hour. I was busy, literally!
/r/seduction22/07/14 05:01 PM
1

Thank you! I'll re-read your post a couple times today, I think.
/r/seduction22/07/14 04:27 PM
1

Oh, and just to make it clear - absolutely not getting rid of any of the other girls. Prioritized this one a bit (maybe I shouldn't have) by bumping another girl to another night so I could see this one again, but there it is.
/r/seduction22/07/14 01:37 PM
1

Hmm. I have a connection with this girl, she's actually very hot too.... The fact that she's younger and in such good shape seems like a really unusual thing - but it shouldn't be right? Nothing out of the ordinary about a reasonably confident, intelligent, attractive 40 year old landing a hot chick in her 20s...... Need to remind myself there can / will be any number of hot twentysomething gals who can take her place.
/r/seduction22/07/14 01:03 PM
1

Absolutely... Of course that's my worry though, making it evident. I slightly over texted her last night (absolutely no need - I totally sold her on date #2), and I diagnosed the reason as oneitis. Nothing major, just an extra, pointless "hi" on a dating website we both frequent, but I immediately kicked myself - neediness already starting to peek in there. So I jerked off last night, thought about the other women I'll be seeing / am seeing, and read some more Models this morning. Feel maybe a l…
/r/seduction22/07/14 12:57 PM
3

Completely agree. I wish I could up vote you 100x - my last relationship died and sex was the canary in the coal mine. Wish I had recognized it sooner.
/r/seduction22/07/14 01:01 AM
7

If I was you I would have been honest about the numbers of gals I had slept with, communicated the I don't give a fuck attitude about it, and then proceed to flirt and kino her ass off and then go for the k-close. That would impress her more than anything and then she would be excited to pop your cherry. I didn't get laid until I was about your age too. Don't worry about it. Be confident about who you are and what you want - women will naturally be attracted to that.
/r/seduction21/07/14 03:30 PM
11

Sometimes they don't know their own intentions very well. You have to set the mood and set the frame for the interaction to help them along.
/r/seduction21/07/14 01:54 PM
3

Don't sweat it. There's endless numbers of women out there you can hit on
/r/seduction21/07/14 01:53 PM
1

Yeah I think the trick is unless you take time with the profile and pics you're not going to get a ton of appropriate nibbles. It helps if you like writing, and you take care picking out pictures, and you spend a little time sorting through other people's profiles. Obviously you need to be messaging them (they will rarely, if ever, message you, no matter how good your profile is). Obviously there's an opportunity cost here - the more time I've spent improving my "online game" skills - the less t…
/r/seduction20/07/14 05:05 PM
1

I'm 40 - lady I met was 42. There may be something to the age factor. I've been finding that my demographic (to use the Mark Mason term) seems firmly planted online - namely single moms 30-45. My date today (in a few hours in fact) is with a hot 29 year old single mom, again, OKC.
/r/seduction20/07/14 03:37 PM
1

Bingo
/r/seduction19/07/14 09:52 PM
1

Nothing wrong with opening with a hug and a kiss on the cheek either, I figure
/r/seduction19/07/14 01:05 PM
2

Lol @ "you have eyes"
/r/seduction18/07/14 07:31 PM
1

Well, I don't think I'm setting up an obstacle for myself by avoiding doing cold approaches via engaging in online game. Although its certainly true that when I'm faced with a girl at a coffeeshop or whatever, I still need to be ready to practice all the things I've learned here, the most difficult thing for me being physical escalation (kino). Anyways, it seems to be a combination of things that work for me. First, there's the profile pics. I've been using Blendr / Badoo and OKCupid, both of wh…
/r/seduction17/07/14 01:51 AM
1

"Almost-in-the-bag".... Verbal escalation has taken place online, we've discussed FWB and she's agreed to it "provided there's chemistry."
/r/seduction15/07/14 09:13 PM
2

I saw Richard La Ruina have a nice, relaxed sort of move that he recommends for first dates - grab both her hands, compliment her "oh, you look really nice!" and then kiss her cheek. Sets the tone for the rest of the date right away. As minor as that is, my WASP self is nervous doing that, but I recognize that its a good one, and I'll probably do it.
/r/seduction15/07/14 01:23 PM
1

Oral
/r/seduction15/07/14 01:06 PM
3

C'mon, really?
/r/seduction15/07/14 01:05 PM
0

"If you feel bad about yourself after watching RSD infield, then that is a major flaw in your character you need to fix first." Then maybe the PUA videos are designed to open up the wallets of men with major character flaws, so be it. I see that a not-undesireable aftereffect of watching a PUA infield clip is that an AFC watches one of these videos, sees how far off their game is, and then feels compelled to plunk down several grand for a workshop with a PUA guru. I don't feel particularly compe…
/r/seduction15/07/14 04:15 AM
1

Approach lots more girls
/r/seduction14/07/14 03:31 PM
1

Yeah FWB is great but you have to make sure the friends part is reasonably well established.... I'm working on getting one of those sewn up myself
/r/seduction14/07/14 03:30 PM
2

Your problem is probably that you're obsessing about trying to "say something interesting" instead of just talking. Everyone's life is potentially interesting, and even if it isn't the fact is the girl you're with is more affected by how you tell the stories rather than what the stories are about. If you talk with an air of someone who is amused by their own life, light-hearted, and doesn't care what others think - she'll be attracted by that.
/r/seduction14/07/14 01:03 PM
4

lol
/r/seduction14/07/14 04:58 AM
1

I don't see how watching infield clips from PUA gurus actually benefits me, frame control or no. My commentary really is that these are less training videos, and more often simply marketing tools.
/r/seduction14/07/14 04:56 AM
2

Relax. Actually analytical people have the best ability to be funny and crack clever jokes - they can see the connections between things others can't. It's far more about your attitude, your inner game. I'm reading Models by Mark Manson and it's eye-opening. I would recommend you check it out.
/r/seduction14/07/14 02:19 AM
-1

You should text her. I think she wants to cheat on her boyfriend.
/r/seduction14/07/14 02:16 AM
1

Thanks, I appreciate that
/r/seduction14/07/14 02:13 AM
1

I'll trade places with you
/r/seduction13/07/14 09:04 PM
3

Yeah I like to think I could overlook smoking but when you lean in to the hot girl for the kiss you don't want to gag
/r/seduction13/07/14 03:55 PM
0

Whatever. In many (most) cases the "I have a boyfriend" line is a test of your self confidence.
/r/seduction12/07/14 11:54 PM
1

Didn't know that! Thanks
/r/seduction12/07/14 09:45 PM
-1

When she says she has a boyfriend it she could be lying. She could have a boyfriend but she's unhappy with him. It's easily a test. I've seen enough in field examples and know enough at this point that if she says that there's plenty of smooth ways to just treat it as token resistance and plow through.
/r/seduction12/07/14 03:59 PM
0

No
/r/seduction12/07/14 03:26 PM
13

I saw a vid with RSD Todd dealing with this one. She said, "I have a boyfriend," and he said, "That's OK - you can tell him I'm gay" (humorous and a self-disqualifier). She responds, "You're gay??" RSD Todd: "Yes. Gay.... ish." He proceeds to get a number close.
/r/seduction12/07/14 06:02 AM
1

Yeah I think I'm overwhelming myself with information. Been reading articles, lots of YouTube vids, started reading The Game and the Mystery Method, and yeah I was briefly tempted to look into blowing money on RSD services, but I think it's pretty obvious there's no shortcut to this stuff. What I might do it take a break from the information overwhelm for awhile and just work on approaches... I think right now I'm a bit daunted by the learning curve ahead of me.....
/r/seduction12/07/14 12:20 AM
1

Oh, and just to add - I think I tend to prefer situational openers and direct game openers. I don't like peacocking or gimmicks (magic tricks) - just not my style. I think I generally have enough gravitas and am quick enough on my feet (that is, when I'm in the right headspace) to interact with women without those things.
/r/seduction11/07/14 02:32 PM
1

Thanks. The timing will be good as I can also spend some more time going out practicing approaches.
/r/seduction11/07/14 05:03 AM
1

Sure I hear you. Daygaming is more efficient if you're actually experienced at it - but I'm not. I'm a noob. I'll try and do both.
/r/seduction10/07/14 11:27 PM
1

Yeah if you like druggie women that's awesome 4 u
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:33 PM
1

Stop assfucking men?
/r/seduction10/07/14 12:36 PM
1

I wanted to fuck this woman, not date her. I think being sure of myself isn't mutually exclusive with the advice of the guy you said to "ignore." Yes, you do post in opiates a lot....
/r/seduction09/07/14 11:21 PM
2

lol @ gramps
/r/seduction08/07/14 03:00 PM
1

The teeth whitening was a gift - had the voucher sitting in a drawer for the last year and a half. Figured it was time to cash in. Cut coffee? You have to be kidding.
/r/seduction08/07/14 02:59 PM
1

Negging to me just sounds like a form of putting push-pull into play in conversation, encouraging the girl to chase. AMOG is just a term for the male who might be doing some cockblocking, complicating your escalation, isolation, close. This is where skill in opening group sets comes in handy. Hyponosis, I just mentioned. I was thinking it might be helpful.
/r/seduction08/07/14 02:25 PM
2

I'm very new at this, but I have a sense if your game is done properly, you don't have to spend much beyond keeping your wardrobe snappy (and on your own drinks, if you're a drinker).
/r/seduction08/07/14 02:11 PM
1

I'm not sure I need a coach as much as I need someone to help push me through the anxiety stuff. That could be a coach, or that could be just someone with different sticking points than me...
/r/seduction08/07/14 01:48 PM
1

SF east bay. I noticed there are some meetup groups, pickup group "lairs" - recommended?
/r/seduction08/07/14 02:41 AM
2

Good. I had a feeling that much of the gimmicks in the book are unnecessary.
/r/seduction08/07/14 02:37 AM
1

Good advice. I don't want a relationship. Consistently I've heard it would be ridiculous of me to get into some sort of LTR this soon out, and it's advice I'd like to follow. Sex would be nice - I've actually heard varying advice about this, you happen to be in the minority. Most have been in the "best way to get over a woman is to get one under you," etc., and I tend to buy that. Regardless, I'm inclined to think that making a project out of getting back into the game is critical for me over th…
/r/seduction07/07/14 10:41 PM
1

Fortunately diet and physical condition are well in hand. I'm probably around a 7 - I keep in shape. Wardrobe needs some upgrading, working on that currently. Have invested in some teeth whitening.... Stuff like that.
/r/seduction07/07/14 10:30 PM
2

No, I'd be willing to make it worth the persons time. I actually don't think I need to work with an amazingly talented expert (although that would be great), I'm thinking a wingman who understands this is a serious science like I do would be enough.
/r/seduction07/07/14 08:20 PM
1

OK someone give me suggestions on how to find a buddy for this. Obviously I need someone more than a wingman - I need someone who understands there's a systematic science behind this and wants to go out with me to practice it. Suggestions much appreciated.
/r/seduction07/07/14 07:39 PM
2

True, I think the theory is all there and available for free (been availing myself of it). The thing I think is actually worth money is the in-field coaching so people can work on their internal game, e.g., like AA and other anxiety issues.
/r/seduction07/07/14 06:49 PM
1

Its not a playground, and I'd have my own kid there with me (adults aren't allowed into this place without their own kids).
/r/seduction07/07/14 04:05 PM
1

Dominance hierarchies. You need to find a way to flaunt the alpha of your group and move yourself up the ladder. Probably by telling the next guy who bosses you around, in the nicest possible manner, to suck it.
/r/seduction07/07/14 06:11 AM
1

Thanks very much! I think the key in this early stage I'm in is recognizing when I have success. Based on what I've read thus far, these small victories are building blocks to bigger ones in terms of mastering internal game.
/r/seduction07/07/14 06:09 AM
3

This is inspiring shit, thank you
/r/seduction07/07/14 05:31 AM
1

All right, good point. I think the biggest thing right now for me is time constraints. Business trip at work at the end of this month, big family reunion in two weeks, family member getting major surgery next week - I'm fired up that I discovered this whole subject (game) in the last few days, it's like a revelation to me, but I think frankly I won't be able to do approaches at a leisurely pace if I try and squeeze it in right now. Too much going on, easy to get overwhelmed. I think mid-August m…
/r/seduction06/07/14 02:30 PM
1

Right, if she starts throwing off signals right away (which is almost certain) then calibrate and escalate, don't hesitate. Can do.
/r/seduction06/07/14 02:16 PM
2

If it helps your internal game, I guess that it's something. But from what I've read so far, as regards the actual game as its played from a woman's perspective, it matters virtually not at all.
/r/seduction06/07/14 02:06 PM
1

OK, sounds good. I'll hug her when I see her and just proceed with the night. Overthinking is definitely one of my own internal game obstacles
/r/seduction06/07/14 02:05 PM
5

I'd fuck me, and keep it casual and free of mind games. Which would be awesome for both parties.
/r/seduction06/07/14 01:42 PM
39

I'm in the same place. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
/r/seduction05/07/14 11:31 PM
1

"High street"? Not sure how exactly the age thing matters. I'm 40, not 60... but I get that it may represent a slight stumbling block. My city is fairly large, just not a college town. There's bars, coffeeshops, and a fairly active downtown strip with lots of restaurants and places to stroll. So there are options. I have a wide range - ages 25-50.
/r/seduction05/07/14 08:34 PM
3

LOL I'm 40.... college campuses, I can dream but the weirdo factor is a tad high. Besides not super near any....
/r/seduction05/07/14 07:25 PM
2

And what's the meetups for? How does one find a mentor?
/r/seduction05/07/14 06:09 PM
1

I actually think I can get to saying hello to girls and doing a few clumsy cold openers if I just say fuck it.... I know that's necessary first step to start working through AA
/r/seduction05/07/14 06:08 PM
3

Lol you're overthinking
/r/seduction05/07/14 05:56 PM
1

Seems like there's no shortcuts
/r/seduction05/07/14 04:47 PM
1

Hah nice
/r/seduction05/07/14 04:36 PM
2

I hear yah I just started researching game two days ago. I think it's behavioral, I think you gotta go out with the intention of getting burned to the ground, and desensitize the anxiety. At least, that's my plan
/r/seduction05/07/14 04:35 PM
2

Basically my first problem to overcome is approach anxiety and escalation anxiety. I don't think my approach anxiety is unusually huge (for example, first night out I did talk to two hot girls, albeit briefly). My escalation anxiety is probably a bit more significant, comes from the "nice guy" hangup previously mentioned - but I think that's common too and can be worked through. So, simple tips as to how to work through all of this appreciated, or just "yeah dude, your strategy of going out and …
/r/seduction05/07/14 02:13 PM
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