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It's definitely a shit test. This girl is a little crazy and kinda sucks, just so you know, but it's still important to go through this Some good signs of interest (or at least seeking validation). Messages you earlier in the day, then follows up later. She's thinking of you. She wants your validation. Her sending you the pic is a big sign of interest, but she's also fishing for validation. NOTE: IF GIRL A GOES FOR ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS, IT DOES NOT MATTER. You don't give a shit about her, remembe…
/r/seduction23/05/18 07:44 AM
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Let me know how it goes
/r/seduction22/05/18 04:22 AM
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The same way you break any habit, you start by changing your mindset
/r/seduction22/05/18 04:20 AM
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I was thinking about just ignoring her completely until I see her out again What's more important is HOW YOU ACT IN PERSON. A nonreactive face and colder body language will be attractive, face lighting up and leaning in and reacting and swinging your head to face her every time she opens her mouth to utter a word = she has you by the balls and so there's no interest in having them in the vicinity of her pussy. I was thinking about just ignoring her completely until I see her out again but when I…
/r/seduction21/05/18 07:05 AM
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Yeah because you didn't try to understand any of the post.
/r/seduction21/05/18 07:00 AM
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Is it an online thing? I hope not. How often do you see her in person? Odds are, you're not exciting enough, you're not challenging enough for her. You're too easy. You don't have enough options and she picks it up the moment she gives you attention and your face lights up. The only way to get there is to actually stop caring about her....or at least pretend to stop caring very very well. Being totally non-reactive. Like not even looking at her when she's trying to get your attention. This happe…
/r/seduction21/05/18 05:33 AM
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Yeah because you didn't try to understand any of the post.
/r/seduction21/05/18 05:26 AM
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I think you missed the point though. I totally agree with this statement: The overall idea is that having some low-hanging fruit like this can warm you up for when you're just out and about My methods to accomplish it would be different but I agree with it. My question is: is it possible to approach and approach well WITHOUT that low-hanging fruit? Because I feel the energy on the low-hanging fruit is wasteful. I feel an attractive man who has it figured out wouldn't need that warmup -- and if I…
/r/seduction21/05/18 05:26 AM
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Right now I'm travelling, so more or less in a fun "everyone is open to meeting people" environment
/r/seduction21/05/18 05:24 AM
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What do you think my issues are? Which rookie mistakes am I making?
/r/seduction21/05/18 05:23 AM
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I think you're right that I need to spend more time getting to know deeply, rather than getting to know many. But the issue remains that without PRACTICING approaching on many, I don't seem to be able to successfully approach when I want to. How often do you end up having sex from approaches? If the number decent I'll take a look at the videos :P. Just seeing if you're just an info hoarder or actually going out
/r/seduction21/05/18 05:21 AM
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I said don't ask! What's the minimum where you are? It's very, very, very common behaviour from women at 18. It goes on until 20 and it exists in an underlying way afterwards (we're all more intrigued by what is harder to get), but right now she's looking to get as much validation as possible. As soon as you give it to her, she's moving on. As soon as you're easy, she's out. This is another example of how women can give us such great feedback. Women always love a challenge. Learn to become a cha…
/r/seduction20/05/18 01:59 PM
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She just wants attention. As soon as she gets it she loses interest. When you're distant she wants you. With this type of girl (even though they usually suck), you have to just not give a fuck at all. Getting excited when she gives you attention again is sure to fail. I'm also going to guess you're 18, or whatever the minimum drinking age in your location is: 19, 20, 21. Don't ask how I knew ;)
/r/seduction20/05/18 12:38 PM
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Don't make him overthink, I say let loose, calibrate later
/r/seduction20/05/18 12:35 PM
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my mind blanked out and I went back to being a coward Yikes, go easy on yourself mate. If it's your first time doing something like this, it's the effort that's the victory. PS: you know how shitty and awkward you feel inside? Do this 10-20 more times and you NEVER feel that way again. Once you are used to the thing you fear most, what can hurt you? If a woman I approached stopped me and said "ew, you're ugly and creepy, get away from me" and then ran into a helicopter and flew away, I would lau…
/r/seduction18/05/18 10:59 AM
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My main complaint is that your book is an evident cash in attempt on these wave of self help books that cash in on the use of the world "f*ck", starting with Mark Manson. The title is just way too similar :P
/r/seduction18/05/18 10:52 AM
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You fear failure and rejection so much that you're trying to be perfect and flawless and not make a single flaw at any point. Yeesh, what could ever freeze someone more? Accept yourself as a virgin, there's nothing wrong with it, and all of us have had some awkward sexual experiences, even though no one really talks about it. Have you ever considered meeting with a girl seeing if YOU like HER rather than trying to craft a perfect image of yourself for her? Shouldn't you get to know her as a pers…
/r/seduction18/05/18 10:48 AM
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No worries, let me know how it goes
/r/seduction17/05/18 05:37 PM
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And why do you need help with 70% raised in one day?
/r/seduction17/05/18 04:54 PM
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Or you know, coffee. I'm the same way in that my nature is the deeper discussions, but people usually are not up for that at first meeting unless the attraction is very high. Wager bets with her about what song is coming on next, loser buys the other a drink, I just made that up. Make some ridiculously absurd statement and double down that it's 100% true and you're willing to bet on it, speak in a serious tone but be smiling so she knows you're having fun. The point is to be playful. I don't hav…
/r/seduction17/05/18 04:53 PM
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You're asking them to be your gf before you've even kissed them? Yikes. You should be having sex numerous times before that's considered, imo. You sound good with comfort, so where you're likely bad is status and attraction. Put your focus here. Read about what attracts women, and figure out what you're doing wrong. My hunch is you focus purely on comfort and you're probably too agreeable. Focus on being more attractive, on being a sexual option.
/r/seduction17/05/18 04:47 PM
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You've raised almost 70% of the fund in 1 day. Why do you need help? Anyway, no one here knows anything about you, and "I can seduce women all day everyday" is a pretty bold claim. You would be better served to talk about your experiences, your "credentials" (though I would hate to call them that) to establish some authority before fielding questions
/r/seduction17/05/18 04:44 PM
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Why not look at her during the lull and expect her to fill it? Your conversations sound too logical. Consider being fun, teasing, playing games with her rather than having a logical discussion -- you're at a club or festival, people are there to have fun
/r/seduction17/05/18 04:40 PM
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Yeah but, tittyfucking is awesome. Haha. Anyway, what I mean is 90% of the work was already done for you, so yeah. Knowing absolutely nothing about scenario, I'd wager I could have slept with her, not that that means anything (or that I would have wanted to if she's using dating apps for quick fucks)
/r/seduction17/05/18 04:37 PM
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Well why would they keep talking to you? The 'hook point' is essential. Surely you just made small talk, asked them what they did, maybe got into pure interview mode, instead of just having fun or displaying your personality or seeing if SHE was good enough for you. His lifestyle chapter will help you tremendously. It's called something like "how to be fascinating", that's one of the subsections I believe. The book will help you -- the issue you're coming across as boring and low-status. The ans…
/r/seduction17/05/18 04:35 PM
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Well it's not like you would be the center of all her obsessions for 5 months. Maybe she'd even stop thinking of you. But if she's still attracted to you and feels positively of you...when you message, it will come back. But, that is an interesting discovery, and something to think about.
/r/seduction17/05/18 02:37 PM
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well it is called /r/seduction..
/r/seduction17/05/18 02:09 PM
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but I can sense patterns Well I'm challenging the pattern you're sensing, because I think they're just not interested. You know full well that a woman who truly likes you, you can message in 5 months and she'll be there. Or 2 years...sometimes.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:56 PM
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Because it's worst place to meet women? Why would an attractive woman need a dating app? And it's a shortcut, 90% of the work is done for you. You know damn well it's much more fun to have the women around you (as you're experiencing at work) and letting that tension build, teasing them, having fun with them, playfully making them mad, making them laugh. Or you can swipe
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:54 PM
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Well to be fair this post got downvoted so I don't think it's the content people want here anyway.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:52 PM
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Dude, it's Tinder. FUCK TINDER. I hate how many people ask for advice here about that shitty app. Do you understand how many men women can match with on there? You're one of 50. She messaged you and 10 other guys, she needed either attention or a penis or something. You weren't there. One of the 10 guys she messaged was, and gave her what she needed. If you try to extrapolate lessons from tinder onto real life, you are going to end up lost.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:51 PM
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Your mistake is *assuming* they are mad that he's not texting. He's making that assumption. They could just plain be uninterested. Most of these guys are still stuck at the "trying to get a girl's attention" phase. There are a lot of beginners here I suppose, but some know what they're doing.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:49 PM
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Well you know, not talking to them while holding a death stare while being too afraid to talk doesn't sound great. But you still didn't go into any detail with one of the setups your friends had. I don't think you've ever remotely tried going for them since you have no experience to speak of. But first step is clear: work on communication skills. There's a section in Mark Manson's Models dedicated to communication, read it
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:48 PM
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It seems to upset them More like it seems to upset you when they don't respond, and you're projecting? Total guess, but I'll take as long as I want in the world to respond, and I never have this problem. Unless you're dating women who have the maturity level of children and get butthurt over a non-response. I don't actually think that's the case, an interested woman will always respond, but if it was, I would move on from someone that immature.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:46 PM
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Maybe she thought you fucked and chucked and didn't want anything to do with her anymore, and now feels like you're booty calling her. Or maybe she wasn't interested.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:14 PM
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Uh, invite her out to meet you somewhere? Coffee? Food? Why the fuck do you have to physically find her walking in the corridors, lol. She could be seeing someone but that's your best shot, then handle the rest in person.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:10 PM
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Yeah, this is slightly better than "let's go on a date" too.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:08 PM
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the key here is to lead and don't be over eager. just let the results happen and remain at ease Yes this is a lesson, but this is not a "report" lol. You met her online and went for drinks, the result was basically determined before the thing started.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:07 PM
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Analysis paralysis. Stop trying to be perfect and be ok with failure, be ok with her not liking you.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:05 PM
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> but I can't seem to figure out how I'm messing it up. Well give examples. It's definitely something you are doing that is unintentionally coming across as unattractive. Your aura, vibe, or something specific that you're doing
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:02 PM
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Uh, who says they're into you at all? If she's into you she would respond. Simple as that.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:01 PM
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Sarcasm right? Why are we assuming he's doing anything well here?
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:01 PM
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> everytime I think about doing it I get held back because I actually had 1. A girl who used to work there reject me, which worked out 100 percent fine and I am still friends with today. Ok, so that's not an objection. > 2. And this is the one, I had a horrible falling out with a girl I also dated there, not gonna go unti details but it goes way beyond even just general awkwardness. The issue at hand is both the social stigma of being a guy who asks out all his co workers (there are a lot that I…
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:00 PM
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You're mentally masturbating because you're afraid of being rejected. Pick one philosophy and follow it. See how it works for you. See which aspects work and which don't. Keep the ones that work and feel natural to you and eliminate the ones that don't. Where are you getting stuck with this approach? Try a method from a different philosophy and see if it works for you instead. Look, this question only stands because you have zero experience. Once you try 100 times, you will have a MUCH better id…
/r/seduction17/05/18 09:29 AM
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Instead of learning techniques, it's better to adapt the right state of mind. That way you don't have to think about things as they will come naturally to you. Agreed, though some techniques are good to have for, as you said, getting her into bed. When that's what you want, it's silly to focus on a Models-type approach, you need a little more game. I also think it's totally possible to have game and still be authentic, it's just about being fun and knowing how to push the right buttons. PS: love…
/r/seduction17/05/18 09:27 AM
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Good work, keep pushing. My guess is that the following is not fully accurate: In order to get comfortable with someone, I first have to talk with them. maybe your discomfort comes from social anxiety, or a fear of being judged, etc. Maybe there's progress that can be made there that would put less pressure on those first interactions. Some people can be almost instantly buddies with people they meet -- they feel comfortable and make the person feel comfortable. I'm not saying I have the answers…
/r/seduction17/05/18 09:14 AM
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I was using my words. I gave you direct and honest feedback. You used it as an opportunity to post additional blogspam. That was your decision.
/r/seduction16/05/18 08:36 PM
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Haha, I am not the simplepickup guys, I kind of wish I picked a different username, but that was 4 years ago. I am scared that I might blow it up again. I was really attracted the first time and it would be a lie to say that I didn't feel like shit for longer than I would care to admit. I am indeed scared of going through this again. But I guess not taking advantage of the opportunity is even worse. Scared of going through what, man? You've put way too much value on the kiss! You think your self…
/r/seduction16/05/18 05:59 PM
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Well talk to her, possibly reference the date, see how she's doing, and see if she wants to do it again My guess: she's not fully into you at all, but she might be willing to see you again. Can't promise the same for a 3rd try if date 2 doesn't go well haha
/r/seduction16/05/18 05:12 PM
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Try slouching your shoulders and taking up as little room as possible and staring at your feet and let me know when it's your looks they are fucking you for
/r/seduction16/05/18 03:34 PM
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You are right, but I would go further and say don't acknowledge or reference the beauty at all (unless something truly captures you). She didn't have to work for her genetic makeup. Compliment her on something she worked on, on something she earned.
/r/seduction16/05/18 03:30 PM
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"I think you are a really cool person with great interests and i would like to see you again". Next time say this with a kiss. It kinda speaks louder than words. Did i just fuck up all the chemistry and attraction by appearing so needy and accesible at the end, despite an overall great evening? If she felt the same way, you can see her again. You did lose a point in the "sexually attractive" category for sure, but can still recover. Can there be sexual tension without kiss on the first date? Yes…
/r/seduction16/05/18 03:27 PM
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OP post your summary or script in text form.
/r/seduction16/05/18 03:21 PM
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Philosophy major, short films, photography? Looking for someone intelligent and funny and older than you? How do you meet men? You message me, that's how
/r/seduction16/05/18 03:19 PM
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You just posted your blogspam at a bot, lol EDIT: Please report every response by OP as spam so this guy can get banned. Clearly no interest in adding value to the community, just in trying to get hits.
/r/seduction16/05/18 03:18 PM
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So instead of providing value by summarizing the video in question, you post additional blogspam. Thanks for letting me know it was free though, I really thought I'd have to pay. Come on man. EDIT: Please report every response by OP as spam so this guy can get banned. Clearly no interest in adding value to the community, just in trying to get hits.
/r/seduction16/05/18 02:38 PM
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He's just a natural bullshitter. You should see the emails he would send for his youtube program. Like, marketing 101 tactics. The classic IT'S GONNA RUN OUT LIKE RIGHT NOW! More commonly it was with the products SimplePickup was selling -- making statements about the pricing or choice that were untrue but tapped into a marketing influence factor, like how much this was going to change your life, but luckily had guys like Kong bring it back down to reality. A quick example for this approaches, S…
/r/seduction16/05/18 02:35 PM
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Look at you man. You've made it clear that it can get much, much better. I mean, Samuel Jackson is a top actor. Instead of focusing on improving you focus on the fact that it's never completely gone. Semantics. 99% gone sounds good to me. You also said it goes away once you get comfortable. This tells you something. Whether you want to apply that fact to your situation or not is up to you
/r/seduction16/05/18 02:25 PM
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I miss the days of self-posts. Can people posting their own videos include summaries or the script of their video for those of us that consume text much faster, or are taking shits at work like /u/midnight_toker22? I've gotten so used to text posts here I get disappointed when youtube opens up, especially when the post is someone promoting their own channel. I don't want to watch for 8 minutes to determine whether OP is the real deal or not. Post the script, we can read it in probably 30 seconds…
/r/seduction16/05/18 02:22 PM
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Well what more can be said? You're in college and you want to go to nightclubs to meet women? Do you stare at your feet when you walk around campus? Haha, they're everywhere and they're receptive to meeting people...start conversions before class, after class, in study groups, join clubs, go to college events, sports, whatever....there are events probably every single day. Go. Talk to women. Be friendly. Just form a network of female friends to start. See how easy it is to get their info. Focus …
/r/seduction16/05/18 02:18 PM
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Introducing my relevant username. Good video, watched the whole thing. Title is clickbaity though. None of this was about SimplePickup being fake or not. It's just a breakdown of Jason's game. I agree with you. They were never too technical. I admired their balls in approaching and most of all how much fun they had with it, especially when they got rejected. I stopped liking them because they weren't honest, especially Jesse. Kong was always my favourite. I always found him the smoothest and mos…
/r/seduction16/05/18 02:15 PM
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And it doesn't make you think of what your decision to use tinder is robbing you of?
/r/seduction16/05/18 01:46 PM
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There are costs to that laziness though I could probably guess that the excitement and interest of meeting that woman on the plane is 100x higher even if it never amounts to anything
/r/seduction16/05/18 01:00 PM
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Yeah, this guy can only watch vids when he shits, so we either need more summaries or more metamucil
/r/seduction16/05/18 12:01 PM
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And her friends and family that had met me didn't seem disturbed by her affectionate behavior toward me. Haha, wtf? You go on one accidental date with a girl and she introduces you to her family? I'd say propose on the second date and get married on the third. Kidding of course.
/r/seduction16/05/18 11:59 AM
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and I only meet women through dating apps. Aghhhhh why
/r/seduction16/05/18 11:53 AM
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I already described it in detail? Do it when you're in bed together watching TV
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:22 AM
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I do use the speed function at times. I do learn a lot from videos, but the reality is videos like these don't interest me much. I'll watch more complex content in video format, but a guy giving basic self-help advice doesn't need to be in video format for me, because the content is so easily digestible by text.
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:07 AM
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It can help you be flirty via text, but I think it will hurt more than it helps, because when you meet a woman in person, it's not your texting that will "win her over". Tinder will teach you to try too hard. And it's still a major shortcut because it took away the approach and all the initial tension of meeting.
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:05 AM
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Thank you for trying to understand the problem before saying "move on". Here to help my friend. So, the reality of the situation is a few things. You really want her, and I think that's cool to some extent, desire is a great thing to have. But the other realities is that you haven't gained any experience since your first attempt with her. You have not become any better at seduction -- not in practice. So why do you think you would be better this time? On the way back home she told me that we did…
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:02 AM
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OP is a beginner. Cut him some slack. At least he is out there and trying and learning rather than sitting behind his keyboard being cynical and jealous.
/r/seduction16/05/18 08:47 AM
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Haha but then I have to touch my pee pee
/r/seduction16/05/18 08:41 AM
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It's only 4:46 long... But I got the same message from you comment in 15 seconds. More and more videos and getting posted here, and efficiency is important. Cheers!
/r/seduction16/05/18 08:40 AM
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Actually the shortcut is Tinder. So at least he made the first right decision.
/r/seduction16/05/18 08:33 AM
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I messaged her later and told her that my friend showed me the messages and I still think of her more than a friend but I'm not going to wait around for her and If she does come around then cool if not it's no big deal. This is sort of the opposite of how you would do it. and I know shes interested She told you, and then told your friend she just wants to be friends. How do you know this? But you want to try and go for the rejection, and I respect that, but you have to be ok with the next reject…
/r/seduction16/05/18 08:30 AM
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Yup, great tip, and it doesn't have to be just women at all. It also feels really good when you do this, especially when you don't have any expectation of a certain reaction. They respond? They don't? They smile? They think you're weird? Doesn't matter. Good morning!
/r/seduction16/05/18 08:25 AM
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Hey beautiful people, can we begin to summarize the main points of these videos in a comment? What are the 3 magic questions? Easy karma, and a lot of us don't want to watch all the video content on here, which there is getting more and more of.
/r/seduction16/05/18 08:21 AM
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Any tips? I get a lot of LMR.
/r/seduction16/05/18 08:20 AM
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Since then she also explicitly mentioned that she was pleasantly surprised on how relaxed and matured was the way I handled it. Of course man. You proved you were the real deal. Think of it this way: if she wasn't there yet when you came on that way, she might have thought you overvalued her which could have made you look either low status or needy. But then over the next month you showed you were far from either of these things...making you high status and non-needy. Shit, it was a high status …
/r/seduction16/05/18 04:45 AM
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Do they have to walk in the direction in which it's pointing?
/r/seduction15/05/18 08:14 PM
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It's hard for us too, but we have no other choice. They'll always find some guys who will eventually take that risk on them, so may as well have it be you when you want her ;)
/r/seduction15/05/18 07:27 PM
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What's the experience though? The sex? I'm not your mother, but I'm personally highly against it. Look at it this way: that brewing sexual frustration from the lack of sex? Use that to approach women, to go for the kiss, etc. To me, an experience with a woman you seduced (especially if it took effort, growth, and was challenging) is going to be far for memorable than a girl who stops when the timer rings
/r/seduction15/05/18 06:04 PM
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I almost had a boner (as if I was 16yo!) and I am 95% sure she noticed but she didn't do anything, or pull away. Almost? I always get a boner in a hot dance. Zero shame. ANYWAY, this is an awesome story. Here's what happened: You went for her. Good shit. She wasn't interested so you moved on like a man. Long story short, your distance from her since then has attracted her. Chances are that before, the way you displayed your interest might have been slightly unattractive to her in some way, or ma…
/r/seduction15/05/18 06:00 PM
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I mean it's awesome when a girl you like makes the move, makes it all easy for you. But just as you're afraid to make a move because you're not 100% sure if it will be reciprocated....it's 10x more scary for her if she hasn't done it before. In general we have to lead, and we are rewarded for our courage. Maybe that's just nature, or biology, giving us a pat on the back through the vehicle of women.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:50 PM
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No. Read my post. Think about what I said, and how it relates to your question. You're not going to get far if you can't master the emotional side of the game: reading a woman, what she's feeling, letting those feelings grow...sex is almost always a side-effect of that emotional connection -- especially better sex. It's important to start paying attention to it.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:47 PM
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Are you kidding? I was the guy who made the post that started that discussion. The best way to create an emotional connection is to actually create one. I'm letting OP see his flaw before spoonfeeding any answers.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:45 PM
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What conversation topics does that need? Jesus man. Not sure how to define 'emotional connection' tbh and what i'd need to do/say to do it Holy shit. Ok with all due respect, this is why you're creating zero emotional connection. You sound like a social robot.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:39 PM
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In other words, you validated yourself. You are worthy because YOU say so, because you deem is so. Internally validated, not externally, meaning your self-worth is unaffected by how others see you. It does not waver because they never defined you to begin with, you did.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:37 PM
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I mean you could check out the amazon reviews? Pretty sure the red queen focuses on biology so it is neutral to those topics, possibly the mating mind as well, but the red queen should be a guarantee
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:35 PM
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jesus christ, I thought I had come a long way, but the first instinct was to look away -- why is this stunning woman staring at me with those big eyes? I don't even know her yet. Seriously though, this is something you'd expect once she's attracted, and feels it strongly emotionally, not right away. youtube chick, you're coming on a bit strong, slow down. Final thought: with about 2.5% of this amount of eye contact a kiss is basically guaranteed
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:34 PM
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First of all, contradiction. You reach the hook point, but you don't sense attraction? The hook point is the START of attraction my friend. Re-think your position on this. Secondly, you've not said or even hinted at anything relating to emotional connection, or comfort. You're going to need that first. In fact, personally, I wouldn't be touching much early on until that connection is formed. Instead you're asking about games and tactics. Attraction. Then emotional connection. Then physical conne…
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:30 PM
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Fuck, I love this.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:21 PM
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when a girl wants to talk to me she sends a streaks snap to try and get a conversation started up and I've noticed this What do you mean by this? Doesn't she have to send you a snap to keep the streak alive? Anyway, I think the main thing you're doing here is keeping yourself top of mind for them. You're probably doing a lot of other things right and they already perceive you as attractive, and you're building on that nicely, so why not, keep it up.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:21 PM
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When I ask whether she has free time on weekend, she replies "idk, perhaps I am studying". You asked "do you have free time"? Not the best way to go about it I have mixed feelings about this - one part of me wants to tell that focus on studying but I guess the current attraction will die off then. On the other hard, I would like to push hard to meet but then again it would be somewhat needy if I do not do it right. Or maybe I am not being direct enough? Do you know what subreddit you're in? Look…
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:17 PM
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When you face the thing you fear most, and you handle it fine, you feel a tremendous amount of power.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:14 PM
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It always goes away after 1 for me. The worse the rejection is, the better I feel. Simple Pickup used to call it God Mode
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:13 PM
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Are you in college? Nah nightclubs are not great, but they can be an alright place to practice
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:12 PM
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You did it man! Congrats. Now the lesson learned is to get that sorted FIRST THING -- you'll never be friendzoned again.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:10 PM
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Genuine question, how old are you?
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:09 PM
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I mean, nothing helps you be natural more than when you genuinely desire her. Your actions, your words, they just work in a way they could not if you were just being mechanical. You don't need a physical boner.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:07 PM
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Don't fuck an escort dude. Learn the game the hard way. I mean your list sounds good. Maybe do the approaches early in the 2 weeks, so you have time to get feedback, improve, and more free time to....enjoy the experiences, if things go well.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:05 PM
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That clip is good! He's much better in-field than when talking to the camera, where his eyes look a bit dead (no offence meant). He kills it with her. I mean it's easy to select a clip that goes really well, but he does everything right from what I say. Even calling out her possible judgment when he said where he was from is something I love doing -- when a woman silently judges you, I find pointing it out emphasizes your social intelligence and completely snaps her out of judgment.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:02 PM
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"you.....you.....you....l-l-l-left me speechless" probably won't work, but may as well give it a shot.
/r/seduction15/05/18 04:54 PM
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The issue is the anxiety. If I were to get comfortable with one particular person, then I can talk to them with ease. And don't make statements like this: There is no cure for this stutter. I just have to live with it. After proving these is hope: And if I were to talk to a lot of people in one week, then my speech does become better. However if I go two days without socializing, then the stutter is back to square one.
/r/seduction15/05/18 04:53 PM
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yes i do love when a woman keeps the door wide open though (if i'm into her)
/r/seduction15/05/18 04:50 PM
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Yeah. I hate drama man. Don't let her drag you into it. And she'll respect you as a man for standing your ground. In a way, the "test" is seeing if she can trust you again, but the way to get there is not by focusing on the "lie" but by illustrating your strength as a man. You show strength and she'll feel much more safe than "sorry babe I really didn't mean to", lmao. Let me know how it goes.
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:10 PM
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You've already waited too long. But the wait probably made her more curious, if she was interested, so that's ok. I personally would not immediately ask her out like the other people are saying. Message her and gauge her response first
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:06 PM
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Am I the only one picking up that this kid isn't old enough to go to a bar?
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:05 PM
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To me it sounds like he's in highschool. Not sure coffee date makes sense
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:05 PM
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I don't date online nor do I recommend it, but I assumed the age was a dynamic variable based on your birth year, not "hardcoded" into your profile. Seems like it was the latter. Anyway, you apologized right? So, don't apologize again. Don't let her drag it on. The more she drags it on, and the more you follow suit making it up to her, the bigger it becomes, the bigger her doubt about you grows. Counterintuitively, I think to regain her trust you need to stand your ground in a "I'm not a liar so…
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:57 PM
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Does she want a orbiter and was the depression a half truth? What? How are either of these a possibly conclusion. There was an emotional connection which was built on trust...which was then shattered. What do you expect? You can tell her from now on you'll be honest about everything (and mean it) but she's always going to have some doubt now, and it looks like this doubt will kill it. She's an overthinker, and that's gonna hurt you, but it's your fault for using a fake age.
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:38 PM
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"My cock is a weapon of mass destruction"
/r/seduction11/05/18 04:42 PM
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I don't like the sad face, but 1) I don't see a shit test...at all 2) despite the sad face which feels weak to me ("aww we're not gonna meet? Me sad!) she still responded with interest and even said no wait that could be the future... There is no shit test here and largely you did well with the innuendo. She's interested as far as an online interaction goes
/r/seduction11/05/18 04:41 PM
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The only single person from RSD that doesn't really use rotuines from the videos I have watched is Tyler, but he isn't even that great at pick up and his biggest strength is endless talking, so it makes sense Hahaha, savage.
/r/seduction11/05/18 04:34 PM
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Don't date online
/r/seduction11/05/18 04:33 PM
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This post I made picked up a little steam and seems to be nudging things along that direction. Mark Manson is the inner game king, but models is not the be all end all. It's models+game. That's the answer. Models includes zero seduction. It just filters for pre-existing high interest (and it helps generate it by improving lifestyle etc), but it has ZERO aspects of seduction in it.
/r/seduction11/05/18 04:33 PM
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How to stop coming off as needy? Sorry mate, you're needy as fuck. How do you expect to hide it? The best way is to actually stop being needy (read and implement Models) But, this post is kind of ridiculous. You're saying "I know I'm doing these needy things and I know I shouldn't be....anyway how do I stop doing these needy things?
/r/seduction11/05/18 04:26 PM
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My worry with his post is guys will begin teasing too much. Some women don't respond well to teasing. When we click with a woman teasing is natural and easy, but many times women will be on a different wavelength, not understand, find you try-hard, etc. Sometimes they're too serious to understand the lightheartedness of it. Basically, this isn't one size fits all. Teasing can be a LOT of fun and women I'm able to tease are almost always attracted to me. But being like David DeAngelo and saying "…
/r/seduction11/05/18 03:38 AM
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One reason could just be that teasing is fun. And fun is fun. Compliments are nice, but if it's generic, it's still a pretty serious moment. What happens after "thanks"? "So.....where you from?" Haha I compliment when I want to compliment, but I don't do it to get anything from the girl, it's not a tactic, it's a natural expression of what I feel in that moment. But complimenting on social media when you haven't established high status...yikes. You're done. Toast.
/r/seduction11/05/18 03:32 AM
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Yeah I don't expect to be in NYC before the end of this year unfortunately but it's definitely a city I want to explore further, and possibly live in for some time, so we'll see
/r/seduction10/05/18 06:22 PM
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Haha. Basically, as soon as you think you could kiss her you probably can, but doesn't mean you should. Maybe the makeout will be better in your car after....or continued at one of your places. Personally I would keep anything kissing at the arcade very short, but that's just my style. I would up the tension at the arcade, but yeah. What's the point of a hardcore makeout there. Slightly out of place and where do you go from there? You want her desire for a kiss to be open, but I would personally…
/r/seduction10/05/18 06:21 PM
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Ok. Yeah then basically, you want to show you're thinking of her a bit and a continuation of your developing tension -- I mean if the texting is going great and she's super engaged, maybe it will go on longer. When she gets back, everyone will ask the same questions, "how was it?", "what did you do", "tell me about it". Be different. Is she going to a different country? Is there a certain food or experience or available locally that she loves? For example, if your city has great sushi and there'…
/r/seduction10/05/18 06:15 PM
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From "the game", top pickup artists rented a mansion together in Hollywood. Living together, learning from each other, etc
/r/seduction10/05/18 06:11 PM
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People don't leave their house anymore? People shop at stores, walk on streets, and generally leave their house. Anyway, you already know the answer, you would have be more sexual in order to filter for sexual. If you're afraid of coming across as creepy just flirt and tease first before dropping subtle innuendos. Your photos will matter. A guy I know that uses online dating for hookups has a shirtless pic up and a sexual one at that. Probably 90% of women find him douchey and wouldn't meet him …
/r/seduction10/05/18 06:09 PM
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How old are you? Just focus on having fun. Play interactive games. Ones together, ones against each other. A fun way to get a kiss would be as a bet for a game -- and it would be funny if losing the game meant you had to kiss. Then try REALLY hard to win so you don't have to kiss her. Then act relieved. Then kiss her anyway.
/r/seduction10/05/18 06:00 PM
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Uh, why would this be different than any other seduction ever? It also sounds like you've never spoken to these women and are only observing from a difference given how little info you provided
/r/seduction10/05/18 05:57 PM
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Pretty easy to delete an app off your phone
/r/seduction10/05/18 05:54 PM
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Honestly the whole point of seduction, in my mind, is that it's supposed to be a beautiful experience with between two people Nailed it
/r/seduction10/05/18 05:54 PM
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Send the text. Emphasize the vacation rather than the good time. 3 weeks is a long time. If you want to see her when she gets back, send her a message during, just once and see how that convo goes. She may be slow to respond. She may be seeing other guys. But you want her to think of you at least once, just see how the vacation is going, what she's doing, ask for a travel pic or two. My real question is why you don't have other options, and why you're trying to set this up for 3 weeks after just…
/r/seduction10/05/18 05:52 PM
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I would set up a project hollywood type thing if I found a few cool guys who were ambitious outside of just meeting women. Maybe one day
/r/seduction10/05/18 05:48 PM
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Don't date online
/r/seduction10/05/18 05:47 PM
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Well, Neil Strauss and "The Game"...not to directly use those techniques, but to see a different perspective. "How to be a 3% man" by corey wayne seems to be a damn good book on the subject but I've only skipped some parts. If I had to point to one I would say use Corey Wayne.
/r/seduction10/05/18 07:44 AM
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I've only skimmed the book but I have recommended it here -- and I agree that books chance with experience and can feel like different books on re-reads but damn, I've never heard someone say "read it 10 times to understand it" Maybe he's not wrong if the person starting is completely changing a mindset, muscle memory and new habits take repitition it's just...10-15 reads, lol. Maybe he's not wrong though.
/r/seduction09/05/18 11:43 AM
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Serious question though, no sarcasm? I'm trying to understand if you are actually recommending reading a book 10-15 times
/r/seduction09/05/18 11:18 AM
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/s?
/r/seduction09/05/18 07:50 AM
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Why are you here man? Debating for the sake of debating? lol. What benefit is there to your pointless debate about words using other words? Do what works for you and I'll do what works for me, and part of that is not mentally masturbating with silly debates about nothing. Ignored.
/r/seduction09/05/18 06:25 AM
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Well it will never be something out of nothing. Honestly you know what man, I'll disagree with you on the numbers game thing. It's not a numbers game. Or it's no more than starting a successful business is a numbers game. Look at it this way: if it was just a numbers game, all men would get the same results. Why can some do 10x better than others? It's NOT a numbers game because a numbers game implies it comes down to luck. Is there some luck? About as much luck as your new business resonating w…
/r/seduction08/05/18 03:50 PM
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Fair rebuttal. It may still be a numbers game to some degree, but before the numbers were "women who are highly interested in me and want to have sex with me". Now the numbers include "women who may be interested in me if I put forward my best self and spark their interest or make them feel something" Before, the latter were COMPLETELY ignored. I only filtered for VERY HIGH interest. My pool has just gotten much, much bigger, to the point where it doesn't really matter if it's a numbers game, th…
/r/seduction08/05/18 04:10 AM
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I think it depends what kind of games you play and how. For me, I think I will still rarely play full on games unless it's something extremely casual, random girl at a bar type scenario. Mainly where I was going with this post was that I stopped basically doing ANYTHING seduction related. If a woman had the doors wide open for me and I was interested, we would have sex. That was my game. Models helped me become more attractive and increase my options, but that was my game, aka no game. What I me…
/r/seduction07/05/18 06:29 PM
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This is a fair point, though compared to his results before is an improvement. But that's exactly it, Models alone is a plateau. Models+Game has a way higher reach
/r/seduction07/05/18 05:37 PM
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Whereas games can lead to who you are being unclear, which leads to the girl projecting her fantasies onto you, which leads to a lot of passion and such, but also something with a shelf life. This is a man speaking from experience. You just put into words some of the most fun I had last year. I actually didn't play any games, but based on my reputation in our social circle I imagine she did project her fantasy onto me. One day snapped out of it.
/r/seduction07/05/18 05:36 PM
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Sometimes they do. Depends on her personality. But if it's her first experience too, I wouldn't expect it at all. This is new territory I assume for both of you which is exciting. You may be the first guy she shows and vice versa. So there's nerves, there's anticipation, there's excitement....I'm excited for you man. Just listen to what she gives you and listen to yourself too, stick to what feels right to you. But don't trust the nerves, in this case, you're afraid to upset her, which is a sill…
/r/seduction07/05/18 05:32 PM
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So guys, don't put down the book forever just because you read it once, you've got at least another 9 more reads before you've nailed it! lol...no sarcasm?
/r/seduction07/05/18 01:08 PM
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Are you impressed with my guess ;) Well my friend, after first base is second base. You slowly work your way there. Hands are wandering I assume, over the shirt? If not, try it. Then they can wander under the shirt. If she accepts that, you can try taking her shirt off, and after below-neck kissing you can reach for the bra hook. I totally get what you're saying. If she's ever uncomfortable, of course you stop. She's in bed kissing you. She's not going to go from her feelings of passion to absol…
/r/seduction07/05/18 01:07 PM
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You can be broken and still game, absolutely, but it's hard to fake who you are for an extended period of time, not is it really that fun I disagree that the less you have going for you the better your game is (I mean, it better be because you have nothing else, but that doesn't mean you will have game) and I don't agree that the technical stuff fixes the inner game. But I'm open to hearing you elaborate on your reasoning
/r/seduction07/05/18 01:01 PM
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Well that's a rare perfect scenario. I often find the more attractive women friendlier as well, for whatever reason
/r/seduction07/05/18 12:57 PM
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There's useful stuff in there, but if a guy is out of shape, has no hobbies beyond video games, and hasn't voluntarily talked to a woman who wasn't his mom, reading models is a total waste of time. Models is largely about sorting this kind of stuff out, so what do you mean?
/r/seduction07/05/18 07:20 AM
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Ménage-à-trois
/r/seduction07/05/18 04:39 AM
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It's easy to remember to walk up too a girl, have good eye contact, tell her she's hot, ask her out and then cross your fingers. Exactly, it is crossing your fingers. You play the numbers game. I'm done with that. I want to define my own results. My recommendation for you is easy. The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene. It is exactly what you're looking for.
/r/seduction06/05/18 12:56 PM
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What happened after the quiver? That sounds like it could have gone much farther
/r/seduction06/05/18 11:50 AM
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The Book of Pook I had never heard of this until it was mentioned in another post here. That good? I gotta check this out, especially considering I made the thread and am feeling lacking in terms of outer game.
/r/seduction06/05/18 11:49 AM
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I see. I mean after that it's going to be the sexual areas...is there a reason you're not going there? I sense you might be quite young/possibly a virgin (nothing wrong with that)
/r/seduction06/05/18 11:45 AM
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Is he good for getting the rest of your life in order sure, does what he says help with the technical side of game. Fuck no. Absolute truth. To be fair, he is impeccable at the former...and what good is the technical side when you're broken inside? You need the inner game to have substance past the technical stuff. But you're right, Mark is ZERO on the technical. In "Models" anyway. When he was a PUA he probably did damn well and that's when he focused on that stuff. Who do you emulate for the t…
/r/seduction06/05/18 11:44 AM
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Great post! Love the shoelace opener, might steal that ;)
/r/seduction06/05/18 11:40 AM
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You're absolutely, 100% right that Mark's approach isn't seduction. And this is ultimately what I'm getting at: it's the most recommended book here, on /r/seduction, especially to newbies. You hit the nail on the head. It's not seduction! It's filtering for existing interest (which tips on how to be naturally attractive). This realization took me until....I'm ashamed to say, very very recently. I've essentially lived "Models" for the past 5 years.
/r/seduction06/05/18 11:39 AM
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I answered his question but I immediately felt like he was avoiding experience, so good call out.
/r/seduction06/05/18 03:07 AM
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That's because models isn't really book that is focused on the process of getting girls. Even Mark Manson himself said, that he didn't like writing about these concepts like "how to be funny" etc. This book is more the self-help book, man-up book. It doesn't teach you the things to do to women, it teaches how to be attractive by being better. Absolutely, and this is sort of my point: too many people here, I think especially newbies to their detriment, are using it AS a process to get women. Am I…
/r/seduction06/05/18 03:02 AM
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And to close it off I took their Snapchats but idk how to properly do this as I'm only interested in one girl so it kinda looks douchey if I only invite one out hahaha. Well absolutely be friendly with both. Was one showing more interest than the other? If these girls hang out often, the attractive one probably regularly gets all the attention, especially if they go out together. Keep this in mind when you want to stand out from the rest, but your approach already helped with that ;)
/r/seduction06/05/18 02:53 AM
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I think this is pretty normal and I'm the same way. Obviously when the environment is helping your cause it's way easier to approach. But the definition of a cold approach is...that it's cold. Out of the blue. "Fuck it" is oversimplified, lol, even though that post got all the upvotes. What's happening is you're afraid to break social convention. You're afraid of being seen as uncool or weird. I struggle with this too (I think everyone does, a truly cold approach is the hardest), but I'll sugges…
/r/seduction06/05/18 02:50 AM
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He's not wrong though. You're asking for the mechanics: what do I do, where do I put my arm, what do I touch. There's no magic formula. I mean, isn't it normal to have your hands explore when you're making out? To start pulling some clothing off? Doesn't that just feel right and normal? Why do you need us to tell you how to do it. You don't need any tricks, you need to bring out the feeling of desire that already exists within you, and express that desire to her (with your body, not your words)
/r/seduction06/05/18 02:43 AM
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Interesting that I've never heard of it. Recommended on Amazon along with The Way of the Superior Man so I assume it's along that vein. Will see if I can get my hands on it
/r/seduction06/05/18 02:38 AM
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I can point to all these same benefits for myself. Mark changed my life. I still think outer game is understated, and maybe you have a decent one already without realizing it.
/r/seduction06/05/18 02:25 AM
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I'm going to assume you're in college. Models is the best for inner game, no doubt about it. Re-shaped me as well, I lived that book for years. I still found an outer game book to complement Models absolutely essential. Hit a plateau with Models, which I think you may find if you consistently change environments. No one says memorize routines like a circus performer, but you likely have some decent outer game or strong communication skills already. Also, sometimes I want a lot more than one lay …
/r/seduction06/05/18 02:22 AM
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It's not outdated. It's actually cool being written from the early 2000s -- phone numbers were usually given on scraps of paper, little differences like that. Remember, it's not a manual so don't read it as one And the story could never become outdated. It's the story of a man willing to learn whatever it takes to attract women....he succeeds and the road it takes him down is fascinating. If you are referring to "outdated" you may be referring to tactics, but the book is much deeper than that. A…
/r/seduction06/05/18 02:15 AM
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Pretty much any book on outer game is fine to compliment Mark Manson's book. Hell you could use the old school Mystery Method as long as you adopted the inner game from Models. I think you said it better than I did. This guy gets it
/r/seduction06/05/18 01:40 AM
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I think you bring up good points. I think what you're getting at is that Models is necessary but not sufficient for game. Pretty damn accurate
/r/seduction06/05/18 01:38 AM
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I'll have to read it to have a more official opinion on it, but he seems to recommend some ideas and mindsets that Mark would consider "game" -- like being the prize.
/r/seduction06/05/18 01:37 AM
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After she sent the nudes my brain just went off the rails... This was the mistake. An experienced man would have been calm But youre right that didnt mean she just wanted to come over and bang. And now that you’ve brought it up, she did mention how she wanted “passionate sex” and was sick of meaningless hookup sex. Boom. Do the lunch and ice cream. Get to know her and don't be too eager. She's already attracted. Once she's comfortable, then try bringing her back (a drink may be nice)
/r/seduction06/05/18 01:36 AM
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She was just playing with me and I fell right into the trap like a sucker. I don't fully agree here with the other commenters. You were too eager and it scared her off. You had developed zero comfort and went for sex. Women have more to lose than men and usually don't work this way -- at least not with dudes they haven't met. You've been too forward with the sex and now you need to do the OPPOSITE. Straight up invite her somewhere platonic and say you don't want anything sexual, and you just wan…
/r/seduction05/05/18 06:58 PM
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I can't tell you there's one ideal book because there's something to take from each one. I do recommend Models of course, but I also recommend "The Game" as an absolute must read, but it's not a manual so don't read it as one. In other words, go for a variety of approaches and styles and take what works from each one, and ditch the things that don't. Don't stick to one philosophy, form your own. However, this is a book I've only skimmed so far, but "How To Be A 3% Man" by Corey Wayne seems to st…
/r/seduction05/05/18 06:40 PM
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That's what you got out of my post?
/r/seduction05/05/18 06:34 PM
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So you can't bring anyone home at all? No worries. Just logged in for the first time in 2 years. Happy to see those 700 days weren't all for naught.
/r/seduction05/05/18 06:04 PM
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I know lots of guys who say they love Models but they never go out and actually approach women. This seems to be most people. Models makes you feel great. Mark is amazing at that. It feels right when you read it. Mark isn't responsible for people's inaction or social anxiety. But for people with these fears, "game" seems to be more effective than the abstract theorizing. That's not to say Manson's books aren't helping people, it's just harder to tell what impact they're having than books more fo…
/r/seduction05/05/18 06:01 PM
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This morning, I wanted to know whether she enjoyed sex What a needy ass question Anyway, my guess is that if you want more sex with her, find ways to increase the tension. Right now it looks like you're some horny dog willing to fuck any second. Be more unpredictable. Be more interesting. Now that she wants to have sex, try teasing her, try not being so easy and being more of a challenge. See what happens.
/r/seduction05/05/18 05:41 PM
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She's just feeling lonely because he's gone. There's a chance she wouldn't do anything with you at all and just wants something to fill the emotional void. You seem to assume you could fuck her any second. I have my extremely serious doubts.
/r/seduction05/05/18 05:38 PM
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If you keep neglecting her advances and brushing them off, if you ever end up in the right place (say back at your place or hers) watching a movie or something, and the teasing picks up and heats up, there's a chance things could escalate suupppperrr quickly. Just be very picky about when you choose to give in, because the only thing attracting her right now is your lack of giving in. So when it happens, go all the way
/r/seduction05/05/18 05:36 PM
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Total guess here, but she has sexual anxiety, which is why tinder and masturbation is her outlet rather than real sex. She throws out some tests to see how easy you are (like the anatomy thing). Thing is, you hardly know her, she hardly knows you, and you're just inviting her over for straight up sex? My hypothesis is she's going to need to be wayyyyyy more comfortable, especially because she has sent you nudes and she is expecting you to expect sex (and she doesn't want to meet easy). My advice…
/r/seduction05/05/18 05:34 PM
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To me it sounds like she just loves the attention. You're giving her some distance now and she's stepping up a little bit to make sure she doesn't stop getting that attention. Later in the day she starts talking about how she likes to fuck, asks me about my preferences, her nips being pierced. Total test and sounds like you didn't bite. Good for you. She insists on going thrift shopping, gets undressed in the changing room (which I can see her legs) and is obviously teasing me. Slightly disagree…
/r/seduction05/05/18 05:28 PM
1

Jeez my post re: mark manson is long overdue and I have to make it asap. It depends on the tricks and tactics. It depends on the girl. It depends on what you want.
/r/seduction05/05/18 04:48 PM
2

You're afraid. You overvalue what women think of you. This is keeping you inside. Don't let women define you, YOU define you.
/r/seduction05/05/18 04:47 PM
1

OP, vulnerable just means you would be willing to talk about it under some circumstances. I agree, this is not something to regularly bringing up. In fact I wouldn't mention that until you knew the better much better. But, in your own conscience, you should get over the shame. Maybe talk it out here, or to a counsellor...you need to come to terms with that decision. If I don't say that I lost it to a hooker, does it count as neediness? I'd say what's needy is constantly measuring your own level …
/r/seduction05/05/18 04:45 PM
1

Have you said success using Mark's approach? I have, but not nearly as much as I could have if I had a different approach. I've just come back to this account after 2 years and I want to write up a post about when Mark's strategy applies...after employing it for roughly 5 years, I can tell you there are a lot of things it misses.
/r/seduction05/05/18 04:32 PM
1

Don't rely on the alcohol to loosen you up. I don't even drink at bars anymore because I prefer to have my car there to drive home late with.
/r/seduction11/10/16 09:26 AM
15

Despite his cynicism, he's right. And what's a WOMAN'S job? Sitting around like a queen evaluating dating candidates one by one? Yes, 100%. But I disagree with you on something. If you have the pussy you have the power. Really? No. You know who has the power? Us. Men. Because we get to choose who we talk to. We get to choose which women we want to give a shot or not. Women don't have this freedom. Their stuck with the candidates that approach them. And that fucking sucks. I would way rather be a…
/r/seduction11/10/16 09:22 AM
1

Actually, yes, you nailed it. Good work.
/r/seduction11/10/16 09:19 AM
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....no.
/r/seduction06/08/16 11:54 AM
1

Found it
/r/seduction23/02/16 10:48 PM
1

No, it's not covered there.
/r/seduction23/02/16 10:36 PM
1

lol....is that the advice that worked for you?
/r/seduction23/02/16 08:19 PM
1

Got more responses here than there
/r/seduction23/02/16 08:18 PM
1

Good post. Depending where you are, during gives you the opportunity to escalate, where as if it's after the "goodbye", then she's gone right at the worst time. Not that you couldn't recover from that, but yeah, good point.
/r/seduction23/02/16 03:51 AM
1

Obviously I like the Seinfeld reference but only one person has managed to give a piece of advice here...
/r/seduction05/01/16 08:04 AM
1

Very good advice, thank you.
/r/seduction05/01/16 02:09 AM
1

Go for it man
/r/seduction04/01/16 10:28 AM
-32

Read his post. Girl at counter. Waitress at restaurant. These are normal encounters that happen daily. He's not running away from his group to flirt with randoms. If my friends were to judge me for a little chit chat I'd tell them to fuck off and probably not hang out with them anymore. Yes, I do prefer friends who encourage me.
/r/seduction04/01/16 10:22 AM
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That's a bullshit perspective. I would only want friends that encourage me and are proud of me for taking those risks. His buddies sound like a bunch of pathetic anti-social gaming losers who are out of touch with their selves and haven't consider a woman as a sexual being outside of porn for months or years. Not exactly the kind of people you want discouragement from.
/r/seduction04/01/16 10:09 AM
2

If you approach, you've been rewarded. You deserve credit. That's it. Her reaction does not change anything. It's not the reaction that makes you, it's the fact that you took a risk and tried. Now the how of how you go about it, that's what you improve on for next time.
/r/seduction21/10/15 12:09 AM
1

You hardly have any uproots and you're saying amazing things. You get my upvotes man, well said. EDIT: The only thing I would add is how subjective this all is. This girl isn't out of his league objectively, but due to how HE reacted to her, he has made her out of his league. If he had felt differently about her (e.g. she didn't stop him in his tracks), he would have a realistic chance to make it happen. It's not about who she is or what she looks like, but how he reacted to her.
/r/seduction21/10/15 12:06 AM
1

Thanks man. Not exactly what I was looking for, but interesting stuff. Watching the Ryan Gosling one now.
/r/seduction20/10/15 07:01 PM
4

Works for guys that can pull it off, but only attracts the insecure and is super lame.
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:42 PM
1

Good post OP, I think that's a fair way to look at it. What are some examples of shit tests you've seen often? I find every girl has her unique flavor of craziness, so far at least...
/r/seduction06/12/14 07:17 AM
16

The beauty of writing. You remove yourself from your mind, you rise above your emotions
/r/seduction06/12/14 07:15 AM
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You know what your fucking problem is? You associate your self-worth with how far you've been with women. And that's fucked up. First of all, get the fuck out of your head. Stop talking about how attractive you are. Ugly dudes can get laid. Secondly, relax. Dudes give each other a hard time for being a virgin all the time. I was a virgin way past your age. OWN IT. You're a virgin because you haven't decided which lucky girl gets to fuck you yet. Not because you can't get pussy. See the differenc…
/r/seduction06/12/14 06:58 AM
1

Yeah, don't ever get too insecure by what girls tell you. The ones who can't tell are usually oblivious in general. Or they wanted you to show it more so they felt more validated. In general, a girl not knowing how you feel about her is not a bad thing...just as long as you're making moves and not spending time as friends. If you start messaging her every day, and never asking her out, etc, yeah she'll think you're a friend and not interested
/r/seduction25/09/14 06:37 PM
1

Didn't realize you were a mod. But thanks, I'll check them out, and keep you posted if I have any questions
/r/seduction25/09/14 07:22 AM
1

I notice that I don't normally look strongly into their eyes while they look strongly into mine. Probably my old anti-social self in hiding. It's an interesting thing to work on, although it is so0o0o0o uncomfortable.
/r/seduction25/09/14 07:21 AM
1

That's a good point, I think I notice the interest decline after that time period, again, unless they're very attracted to me. In those cases I can mess up 100 times, call them in 2 months, etc, doesn't matter. But that's not game. That's opportunities you were going to get anyway. Do you have experience to share on how to keep their interest/get that attraction going, or are you not very experienced with it? No worries either way, I just ask because you sent links instead of explaining your own…
/r/seduction24/09/14 05:33 AM
1

Haha. Sounds like a crazy bitch. But I know what you mean, you're right, and that's why it works. Why isn't he giving me attention? He must get a lot of girls if he doesn't need my attention...I like that...I'm going to try to win him over. Boom, now you're qualifying her instead of proving yourself to her. Of course, actually doing this is more subtle, and will take time to become natural
/r/seduction24/09/14 04:26 AM
1

Hmm, where are you touching them? During the day? Just to give you something to think about, I knew a guy who would never touch. He didn't care much for it. But he could take a girl out, and bring her back to his place. Maybe you're trying to be too mechanical, maybe you think the only way she'll be sexual with you is if you build up that touching. Although it helps if she's already attracted, it's not necessary. Get her back to your dorm, then kiss her, hand on her hip, get to second base, etc
/r/seduction24/09/14 04:24 AM
1

Haha damn, both are quite long, but I appreciate the post. Right, but for me it just seems like if she isn't attracted to me from the start she's not going to be attracted to be in this "phase". I don't like looking at it as "convince her I'm attractive", that seems a little like performing. But I do understand that she doesn't know you and you need to present yourself.
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:46 AM
2

Where is this happening? A club? Because girls will makeout in clubs and it won't mean much...they could just be in it for the attention. Another point I would make it that how well do you know these girls before you escalate? Maybe you're making them feel like you're just interested in them sexually, and it's making them feel slutty. Qualify her first, build a connection, and then let the emotions unfold naturally I mean, if you can get a girl back to your place...escalating just happens
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:29 AM
1

I don't understand why a cute girl would you don't get an erection for 2 days. What exactly is the joke there, idgi
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:24 AM
1

Read this. Definitely don't ignore girls you're not interested in, especially if they're friends with the girl you're interested in.
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:22 AM
2

Ok, fair enough. But truth be told, I don't think it's the lack of making your intentions clear. Are you grabbing her and kissing her? You say you can escalate fine...but if that was true, you wouldn't be having a problem...escalating
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:20 AM
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It's a subtle way to disqualify a girl. But not giving her attention in the beginning, she'll assume you're not interested in her, and this will let her guard down and let you hit on her later on. When you make it very obvious, you force her to make a decision right away. And when she's only known you for 5 seconds, unless she finds you extremely attractive, your chances won't be great. He's probably not thinking this, but it's the effect of what's happening
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:19 AM
0

I love this article because it promotes a non-wuss mindset. You gotta be edgy sometimes, you've gotta break the rules sometimes, you've gotta be a little entitled sometimes. Great article. Did you write it, OP?
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:12 AM
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Dude....from what I can tell from reading this, they know. Of course they know. Girls can tell from the slightest of signals, let alone these big ones. I'm actually kind of creeped out picturing you licking your lips around a girl trying to tell her what's on your mind. My question is, who taught you that licking your lips was gonna let you get your dick wet?? I mean, you say you can escalate...so kiss her, and keep escalating. What's the problem? You want them to rip your pants off after lickin…
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:08 AM
1

read my reply above this one
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:05 AM
2

This sub also recommends a lot of advice that the people giving it don't even follow. The truth is that going alone is a bit "weird", but it depends. If you start talking to people right away and vibing with them, and it feels natural, boom, doesn't matter that you're alone. But if it's not that kind of party, then being alone is going to be a pretty big disadvantage. I love going out alone when I'm travelling, but when I'm in my hometown, I don't do it unless I know people at the party. Depends…
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:05 AM
3

This subreddit goes through phases. About a year ago there was nothing but inner game (when everyone was on Mark Manson's dick). Some complained wanting more outer game, and we saw more of it. It's funny how it goes through phases but it does
/r/seduction24/09/14 03:02 AM
9

You take your hand, you reach very high up your ass, and if you feel anything, grab it and pull it out. You'll lame expressions up there like "peeling my sausage" and "milking my prostate"
/r/seduction24/09/14 02:59 AM
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What a useless post which had no purpose other than to pump yourself up. Dude gets laid (or probably less, probably just landed a date or some girl's attention) and thinks he's the shit. Classic
/r/seduction22/09/14 09:19 AM
1

I can't believe you just recommended an escort. Blew any credibility you might have had earlier in the post Plus, everyone says, but do you personally do that when you go out? If I'm doing what I truly want, I wouldn't do that. I would just say hey and strike a normal conversation
/r/seduction16/07/14 09:53 PM
1

Then it's 100% true. I'm like you, but 5 years older. Sadly, I'm still mostly like you, to some extent. What I can say for sure is that you're not interested in the girls...you're interested in their attention/validation. Once you know she's into you...you're set, you relax and you move on. What do I think you should do? I think you should figure out why you have a fear of intimacy or sexual anxiety and do something about it. I can't help you here, you'll need counselling or someone with a lot o…
/r/seduction16/07/14 09:52 PM
1

I am in no place to help you. An observation nonetheless: If every girl you chase has a boyfriend or is not interested--if this happens every time--then you are unconsciously going after girls you can't get. I would bet that they are plenty of girls that like you, but you avoid them. This means you either have a fear of intimacy or sexual anxiety. Therefore you only go for opportunities you can't get. Heck, I bet when those girls turn single, if they're interested, you'll find another excuse.
/r/seduction16/07/14 06:49 PM
2

"How pointy would you say her elbows were?"
/r/seduction16/07/14 04:48 PM
1

Completely agree! But I do want to find the article for reference purposes. I do think actually being busier is an important thing
/r/seduction13/03/14 01:21 AM
1

I don't understand why you think it's on you to change them. That's very judgmental of you, to look at your friends and think, "you need to change". Especially when you haven't changed that way yourself. Seems a little ridiculous to me.
/r/seduction12/03/14 05:49 AM
3

You don't. You cannot help someone who does not want to learn.
/r/seduction12/03/14 05:13 AM
3

Girls love attention, so even if they don't like you, they will happily chat with you all day and then blow you off if you actually want to hang out with them. Very true, very good point. This is why the hangout is the true test of whether or not she's interested. Also, you've been here a while, man. Always notice you when I come creeping back.
/r/seduction04/03/14 04:03 AM
1

Hahahahaha. Truest thing I've ever read...it doesn't take too long for the veneer to fall. And behind it lies an ugly, ugly creature... This is one of those things that should motivate you to go after girls harder. The ones that will come after you are going to be nuts! I think, on some level, my experience with a nuts girl who chased me is the reason why I take more action now.
/r/seduction04/03/14 03:56 AM
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Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.
/r/seduction03/03/14 08:13 AM
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Do you really think acting in this way will get you far? These are the behaviors of attractive men. Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.
/r/seduction03/03/14 08:13 AM
1

I don't care how prevalent it is, of course people are going to take an easy route. Who cares if I don't agree with you? It is not for me, that is all.
/r/seduction03/03/14 08:10 AM
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That's the point. So much opportunity to grow, and you toss it all away for the convenience of a mobile app, instead of growing as a person. No, I'm not in SimplePickup, thank the lord. Those guys have turned into greasy salesman milking their brand for money and lying to their fans to make even more. Kong is the only cool one but he's a little like that still. They push for an honest approach, and then approach girls and lie away. Awful.
/r/seduction01/03/14 07:46 PM
4

Because I don't want Tinder options. You guys will downvote me, but I would rather not get laid than get laid from Tinder.
/r/seduction01/03/14 07:40 PM
2

If she wanted you, why would she be sexting you right now...when she could be actually having sex with you.
/r/seduction01/03/14 07:39 PM
1

OP, you're from my hometown, we should chill.
/r/seduction01/03/14 07:26 PM
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Or just leave your house and talk to a girl
/r/seduction01/03/14 07:21 PM
2

Hahaha I signed came back to post this, amazing
/r/seduction28/02/14 10:10 AM
2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXGJL3rfAso Classic
/r/seduction28/02/14 10:02 AM
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Obviously a troll...he's doing it for the laughs. You can tell he has no intent to actually pick up these girls. I respect his courage
/r/seduction28/02/14 09:38 AM
2

There's something utterly hilarious about this. I think it's how he's holding a fucking camcorder recording his own approaches.
/r/seduction28/02/14 09:14 AM
1

Great post
/r/seduction28/02/14 08:23 AM
1

OP, genuinely glad you were aggressive in pushing this. Great read.
/r/seduction07/02/14 09:07 PM
1

Wow. And what a brilliant website. Simple articles that drive a deep point home. Definitely going to bookmark this.
/r/seduction06/02/14 04:52 AM
1

Good insight, but I would correct it slightly: I'm only putting really attractive women who give me the time of day on a pedestal. Yeah, I suppose it did get me interested. My mind did venture off into "relationship" territory though, which I thought was really weird and way too soon. Why do you think this is? I realize how irrational it is.
/r/seduction16/12/13 05:45 AM
1

I don't even know if she's interested. We've never gone out. What relationship am I going to give a shot at?
/r/seduction16/12/13 05:44 AM
1

The only reason I wouldn't call this "oneitis" is because I'm not walking around saying how amazing she is, that she's the only one, etc etc. There are many 20 women that could have this effect on me Not much apart from being really attractive, which has skewed my opinion of everything else that she does. It's silly. When she's funny, it's like it means more than when another girl is funny. It's so dumb, lol.
/r/seduction16/12/13 05:43 AM
1

Good point.
/r/seduction07/12/13 07:18 AM
2

At least be constructive with a post? But yeah.
/r/seduction07/12/13 07:18 AM
1

Thank you :)
/r/seduction07/12/13 07:18 AM
2

Yeah I'm not sure why I was afraid to touch this one. More hesitant around her. I'll start small if I see her again, and maybe move up from there
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:54 PM
1

True, a kiss rejection isn't the end of the world
/r/seduction06/12/13 02:25 PM
1

I doubt you would dump her straight up for that. Maybe she just needs her personal space until she trusts the person? Doesn't seem totally unreasonable. But anyway, I got the idea that I should start small, even so much as forcing an "accidental" touch and going from there. Clearly I am not confident going in big with this girl at the moment. But if the response is good to smaller touches I'm sure I'll grow more comfortable. Thanks.
/r/seduction06/12/13 10:33 AM
1

Ok, fair points. I'm just still not sure if I should be super reactive to how a girl is acting. If she's not giving openly flirty signs, should I still not at least try? I guess I realized I'm uncomfortable trying to touch unless there's an open invite or it seems totally natural. So maybe I did do the right thing. I just want to make sure I didn't back out because I was scared to fail or something. I think it was more a matter of not feeling natural. I'll be more confident next time anyway.
/r/seduction06/12/13 09:25 AM
1

Honestly man, it's not that. Let's say I'm on a date with a flirty girl. She gives me a flirty look, she laughs at all my jokes, when I go to hug her, she stares me straight in the eyes looking for a kiss. Do you think I would struggle here? Of course not. I'm talking about the girls that AREN'T giving you the signs. It's not that I'm scared to touch. It didn't really feel natural with this girl. Then again, she did meet me after a cold approach at night, so maybe she does not trust me enough ye…
/r/seduction06/12/13 09:23 AM
1

I also want to add that I didn't feel organic in kissing her. I would say it's 50% her not being inviting, and 50% me being scared of failure. The fact that I was scared of failure is what brought me to make a post here. I feel like I bitched out in a way. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe under the circumstances, I did the wrong thing. Next time I'll try to like, at least hug her though...haha
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:42 AM
1

Well, I haven't hugged or really touched her, haha. It just feels like...she's not very inviting to it, you know? I've felt invited before with other girls. I don't feel invited with this one. Maybe she does have some issues, who knows.
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:40 AM
1

This is a brilliant post. Thanks
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:34 AM
2

I don't think you get what I mean...this girl seems quite reserved to me. Going for a hug, touching her, has felt weird. She hasn't made it easy. I'm not entirely sure what this means. Is it in my head, is it because I'm too scared to touch her?
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:29 AM
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To chat about what? Chances are she just wants validation. If you're young (why do you strike me as the 16-18 bracket?), this isn't the end of the world, and is pretty normal. If you enjoy texting too, sure, go for it. But you have to have gone out with her at least. In general, just take it as a sign that she's into you and ask her out. Continue the conversation in person ;)
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:25 AM
1

Sales isn't for everyone, it definitely wasn't for me. I guess the issue here is now approaching women without being overly sales-y :P
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:21 AM
1

One time outside of a bar, I walked up to a girl and said hey. Without looking up from her phone, she said "I'm not interested, go away" in the bitchiest tone ever. I laughed. My point is: don't worry about possibly negative reactions. You WILL get negative reactions. It's not so much what you say. If you're dressed well, cleaned up, walk with good body language and speak like a man (down-talk), it will not matter what comes out of your mouth. She will listen
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:19 AM
1

I know what you're saying, but the question is whether I should have done it anyway, despite her being reserved, or seemingly not interested. Sure, circumstances change, but I'm not sure if I didn't go for the kiss because it didn't feel right or because I thought I would fail. Or both.
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:14 AM
1

Well, ok, but that's not very relevant here. Of course I had a desire to kiss her. The question is whether or not I was right to back out
/r/seduction06/12/13 08:13 AM
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Well, she wasn't necessarily flirty, no touching. I expect her to remain this way. Even if she's interested (and she might be, we did talk for 2 hours), I don't think she would ever give me a sign that said "kiss me now". So I have to make it happen. The question is does this mean she's not as interested...does it mean she doesn't want to be kissed...does she maybe only see me as a friend? I don't know. I did compliment her and pay for her drink. She must know I'm interested.
/r/seduction06/12/13 07:00 AM
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Seems to me like that second paragraph took quite a bit of inspiration from this. Solid post though. EDIT: This video is good, but no, you're not a bitch if you don't approach. Don't buy into that. The negative self-talk is not going to help.
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:49 AM
2

Am I the only one who has doubts when someone says "I've no problem approaching women and doing an F-close" ?
/r/seduction30/11/13 11:37 PM
1

Thanks for posting the link! Ok, so he used a quiz to calculate the days left....and the app to time it. Not sure how that is much of a correction, haha. Thanks though, man.
/r/seduction28/11/13 07:54 AM
1

The important thing to note is that being yourself will always make you LOSE a lot of girls. This is why guys struggle with it. But when a girl likes you, she likes you for who you are, which is cool. But don't think that by being yourself you're going to "get the girl".
/r/seduction05/11/13 08:33 AM
1

Hahaha, a fun one, but quite ugly if you ask me. Definitely Australian and British for me.
/r/seduction25/10/13 09:11 AM
2

This is a good perspective, but I think my humour is quite offensive and socially inappropriate...like, whenever I say what's on my mind, people look at me weird. I'm not THAT funny and I'm not that in sync with how people feel (and therefore can't calibrate to be funny). As a former shy-person, just being out there is thrilling enough for me, I'm not usually pushing boundaries. Sometimes I do in class, when it just feels right. I can do outlandish things and get away with them. But this is not …
/r/seduction21/10/13 07:34 PM
1

Account was initially made to ask them a question in their AMA (I'm not their biggest fan) and from there I got stuck posted in seduction.
/r/seduction21/10/13 07:30 PM
1

I feel like you read Models and made these realizations. I know I did after reading it.
/r/seduction21/10/13 02:11 AM
2

Absolutely this, no question. Greatest book on attracting women ever written.
/r/seduction20/10/13 04:53 AM
0

Disagree. I think it's a super negative way to look at yourself. Why would you ever call yourself a little bitch?
/r/seduction19/10/13 10:46 PM
1

If you use money to attract women, you will only attract women who love money. Why the fuck do you need a Ferrari anyway? If this is legit, have more to offer than your money. Invest in yourself, build a strong identity that has NOTHING TO DO WITH MONEY.
/r/seduction19/10/13 06:41 PM
1

I remember buying his book "More lays in 40 days" or whatever it was called. Let's be honest, he's a pretty sleazy guy. It's about manipulation tactics and tricks to get laid. I mean, he even calls one of his techniques "being sleazy", so at least he's owning it. Overall though, he promotes an awful mindset. Might get you laid a few times, but you will be miserable. This has been such a common problem over the years that when Mark Manson came along with Models, he blew up. There's no real point …
/r/seduction19/10/13 06:36 PM
2

I remember commenting on that. Had you talked to her before walking up to her that moment? I find it interesting that you asked her out without any prior conversation, unless I am wrong.
/r/seduction19/10/13 06:31 PM
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I think you're approaching this the wrong way. First of all, you obviously have a significant amount of shame in your life, based on how focused you are on what others think. This is something to work on. More importantly though, own it. You're a short guy. You always will be. Own it. Imo you should hit the gym a little and try to pack on a few pounds (if you're going to be short, at least have good build). More importantly though, stop being insecure about it! It's out of your control. You are …
/r/seduction19/10/13 06:28 PM
1

Ok, I haven't even read this yet and I know it's going to be a great post. Will update soon.
/r/seduction18/10/13 07:11 AM
5

Hey man, I had a very similar experience a few months ago. Luckily, I learned some of the same lessons you talk about here. Currently I'm seeing a girl who is very invested in me; a very unique feeling for me. And even then, I am prepared to walk away at any moment. The difference was in my reason for getting to know her: Girl 1 I wanted out of neediness and validation. Girl 2 is a girl who respects me, likes me, and who I decided I want to see because I'm comfortable and happy around her. Becau…
/r/seduction18/10/13 07:09 AM
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Asian female checking in? OP would like to ask you out.
/r/seduction17/10/13 09:11 AM
1

Have you considered meeting girls, you know, not on the internet? I think you're making excuses for yourself. Yes you may be busy, but a girl who really wants your dick will even be MORE attracted to the fact that you're busy. It shows you have ambition. Passion. A career. It makes you a scarce commodity. Being busy is NOT your pitfall, even if girls are occasionally using it as an excuse to stop seeing you.
/r/seduction17/10/13 06:51 AM
1

I would grab a beer with OP. Seems like a cool guy.
/r/seduction17/10/13 04:31 AM
2

There are certain male traits that leave them in the friendzone alone. Others are able to only get laid, while those with a balance of both get relationships. You need to express your "lover" traits more strongly, things like having an edge, being mysterious, being confident, while NOT being there as a friend, yet STILL making her feel comfortable. Learn about the different traits here
/r/seduction16/10/13 07:43 PM
6

Good work on approaching! Always feels good to get the first one out of the way. Couple pointers: nothing wrong with being charming and offering an umbrella, but do it because you're a good guy and not to impress her. Also, do not neg. That was always intended for hot, BITCHY girls in bars to bring their guard down. Be friendly, but NOT supplicating, show your personality, keep at it man.
/r/seduction16/10/13 07:26 PM
9

Double your dating? His book that started it all? Anyway, DD suggests some extremely manipulative things, like taking things manipulative women do and reversing it on them. I lived by his advice for over year and was miserable. Mark Manson did it for me. Shotgun mentality was a great point though, and I prefer calling it the abundance mentality, much more relevant
/r/seduction16/10/13 07:53 AM
5

I'm glad you posted this because I just saw this online and wanted to disagree with it. Here's the thing: she didn't totally blow him off, she just gave a little resistance because she had JUST met the guy, she knows nothing about him, and he's already asking her out. If he actually intended to pick her up, I'm sure he could've, she seemed at LEAST neutral if not a little intrigued. Although I love Vitaly as an entertainer and this was hilarious, it is not as "golddigger-ish" as it seems. Sorry …
/r/seduction16/10/13 06:49 AM
5

His name is Eben Pagan, now he goes around telling people how he made millions starting off with a book that he "wrote in only 3 days" or a small timeframe like that. Take it with a grain of salt imo. I always found his suggestions too gamey
/r/seduction16/10/13 06:45 AM
1

Definitely let me know what you decide to do
/r/seduction16/10/13 06:42 AM
1

Mark Manson would say: you have to open first. And if she doesn't like when you show her who you are, you move on. But open her up either by asking deep questions about her life, or do it yourself THEN ask
/r/seduction16/10/13 06:41 AM
24

First name David, last name DeAngelo?
/r/seduction16/10/13 04:47 AM
1

You seem like you're keeping it quite superficial though. Maybe you would enjoy things more if they had more depth
/r/seduction16/10/13 04:27 AM
1

If they're NOT living it right now, you mean?
/r/seduction16/10/13 02:25 AM
2

I've thought about it but didn't want to drop the $30 (in school, no plans to travel soon). Given his solid writing and vast experience traveling, I would imagine it's pretty good. He also offers a money-back guarantee I believe, so nothing to lose. If you do end up buying it, I would be forever thankful for a share if you decide to take one for the team
/r/seduction15/10/13 08:42 PM
2

Hmmm. Interesting story, not sure how I feel about it
/r/seduction15/10/13 08:35 PM
2

You definitely should've asked why she was being bitter or called her out on it. Your boundaries weren't strong enough. You let her get away with shit because she was hot and you wanted to fuck her...so you tolerated her shitty behavior. This is wrong. Having said that, this was a great post and another reason why experience (with some theory in your head) is the best teacher
/r/seduction15/10/13 08:40 AM
2

It's a worthwhile goal, yes. I just don't think it will motivate anyone unless you're yelling into their ear at a bootcamp
/r/seduction14/10/13 01:46 AM
3

In terms of the mechanics, I agree. Experience is everything. Doing is everything. But we all already KNOW that. Our fears are irrational. Most of us have avoidance problems and so "just do it" simply won't work. I don't mind all the growth that comes developing into a person who CAN "just do it", but it takes time and is much harder than people make it
/r/seduction14/10/13 12:00 AM
2

Dude, you did nothing wrong here. When I meet a girl who is interested enough, SHE starts asking the questions. You walked away when it was clear she wasn't into you. Great. The only thing you did wrong was not talk to more girls....so what if she was cute? She gets auto-entry into your pants? Have higher standards, stronger boundaries!
/r/seduction13/10/13 10:45 PM
1

I don't get it. Did she look you up on Facebook or something and found out you had kids?
/r/seduction13/10/13 09:27 PM
4

Don't kiss her ass (be confident), but be totally honest and genuine. No games. Trust me. Then leave it be. If she's attracted or interested, you're set. If not, don't allow yourself to be grouped with the others. Move on without overthinking what could've been or what you could've done differently. Good luck.
/r/seduction13/10/13 09:22 PM
6

I still don't understand how "just do it" is good advice. I can't, I'm nervous! "Just do it." But I'm nervous, she'll be able to tell and reject me. "Just do it". But I still can't! "Just do it. Horrible advice. One should analyze what is holding them back, improve, THEN go for it while being outcome-independent. This takes work. If "just do it" worked, none of us would be here.
/r/seduction13/10/13 09:10 PM
9

The difference was not game. This is not about acting attractive. It's about BEING attractive. It's your identity, stupid
/r/seduction13/10/13 08:54 PM
2

Agreed. I always look out for this to avoid idealizing/pedestal. But still...
/r/seduction13/10/13 06:00 PM
4

How about if you've been seeing a girl for a few weeks and are starting to trust each other? Should she still think you're willing to walk away at any moment?
/r/seduction13/10/13 07:46 AM
1

Best seddit post ever.
/r/seduction12/10/13 09:25 AM
2

Yeah you could've asked for the number again and gotten it but that's irrelevant! It's the approach that's the hard part. Good work man.
/r/seduction12/10/13 02:34 AM
2

I post about it all the time so I hope it was my comment! Either way, good for you, sir
/r/seduction12/10/13 02:19 AM
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I felt a little pathetic just reading that. You've accepted your place as a low-status, low-value male? Then why are you here?
/r/seduction11/10/13 08:48 AM
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As long as you promise to run kino on that hot babe eight, bro
/r/seduction11/10/13 07:37 AM
4

Hmm. If that's the case, she does seem quite interested. Let me know how it goes.
/r/seduction11/10/13 07:35 AM
-10

Yet every new post is polluted with comments about HB7's and HB8's
/r/seduction11/10/13 07:33 AM
0

OP sounds like he watches a lot of porn and is totally disconnected with what real women are like
/r/seduction11/10/13 07:28 AM
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LOL. Yes, because everyone here who posts about an HB9 they saw at a party are referring to how she roughly views herself as roughly a 9. No. Everyone uses it in the context of looks.
/r/seduction11/10/13 07:27 AM
1

Have you responded to her text? If not, a simple "sounds good" should suffice. Or, "sounds good, I'll call you on Sunday" Then meet up with her. Get to know her. See if you like her. If you do, and she's still down to go back to her place, go for it
/r/seduction11/10/13 07:13 AM
3

Although this all sounds good, I have to say, you may be coming across as the entertainer. And you may soon come across as needy once the intrigue fades away. I hope the date goes well, but keep us posted on whether or not she flakes and how it goes
/r/seduction11/10/13 06:51 AM
0

OP, who were these people calling you ugly? Sounds like family to me. Family can say harsh things to each other. My mother's told me that no one will ever love me and no girl will ever tolerate me, lol. But those were her moments of frustration, and I don't believe it...anymore. Has anyone you DON'T KNOW made these comments towards you? Before addressing the issue you asked, I want to know if you're even right about your self-image. I have a feeling you might be wrong. You can PM me a pic if you…
/r/seduction11/10/13 06:31 AM
1

Lol, I think we have very different definitions for things. I would say "tease and banter" IS game, but you're defining game as something else
/r/seduction11/10/13 06:23 AM
1

Lol, I guess, you must tease/banter/games a lot then. I dropped all that, and so I wasn't wrapping my head around what you were saying. But if that's your game, then yes it's possibly to be superficial yet (physically) intimate, good point
/r/seduction11/10/13 02:03 AM
1

Good point about not giving up after the first flake. For me, the biggest sign is HOW she flakes out. There's nothing I like more than the occasional "sorry, I'm busy tonight...but let's hangout another day!"
/r/seduction11/10/13 02:02 AM
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Dude, you are way overthinking this. First of all, I hate the fucking word kino. It's touching. It doesn't need a gay, technical name. Secondly, it sounds like you got rejected once for touching too early and now you avoid it at all costs. I'm talking about natural touching here. Things that happen naturally, like putting your hand on her back as you lead her through a door, etc. Your "standard game that doesn't involve kino" is exactly what everyone is talking about: those occasional touches he…
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:59 AM
1

Why don't you have a seat over there?
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:35 AM
1

Get along is, you know, hugely personality-based
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:11 AM
0

...so her friend is warning the girl you're seeing because you're a player? As long as you're honest about your intentions, you have nothing to worry about. Sounds like you're trying to find a way to lie though, in which case, her friend has just cause to worry
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:05 AM
1

You don't think personality matters much for pickup? Lol...I assume you mean you assume it's mostly physical. Still, super strange comment.
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:03 AM
1

There are a few things I didn't agree with either. He talks about all the EXTREMES. But I think the toxic shame stuff might apply to you...focus ESPECIALLY on the parts about focusing on your own needs and establishing your own boundaries. You're lucky you had this girl to lay this shit out for you, most of us had to live with it for years before we figured it out...
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:02 AM
11

How on earth are you leading her around without touching her? And yes if they're already attracted to you, I'm sure the kiss will work just fine. I believe the advice applies more to guys who have a history of being friendzoned, and want a way to polarize girls one way or the other by SHOWING their interest.
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:00 AM
1

Funny enough, Robert Glover alludes to this interaction in No More Mr. Nice Guy. Or was it Mark Manson in Models? Can someone help me out here? Something about a guy wanting to leave his wife, and then when he found out she wanted to leave him, wanted her more than ever. What is this from?
/r/seduction11/10/13 12:58 AM
1

Yeah, so I'm curious what your philosophy is on that. Don't get me wrong, I'm super picky with relationships. But when you think is a chick is extremely hot and you want to sleep with her, do you allow for less exciting personalities, or is it something you always cut out no matter what?
/r/seduction10/10/13 07:23 PM
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My biggest takeaway from Above The Game was exactly that: You desire her, don't you? FUCKING TELL HER. Now what does that mean? Yes, it means telling a girl she's cute and that you want to get to know her better... But you know what is even more important? TOUCH. Yes, let your body do the talking! After many years of observation, I've realized one thing... All the best seducers can't keep their hands off the women they find attractive. It's as if something primal inside of them compels them to g…
/r/seduction10/10/13 07:15 PM
1

I wasn't talking about relationships. I would NEVER allow that for a relationship, ever. I'm talking about when your man-urges want you to sleep with a girl.
/r/seduction10/10/13 07:10 PM
1

Another? You have already given them a shot? I just re-read and you said you read them. Are you sure you actually absorbed what you were reading? If you weren't able to connect emotionally with what was being said...either you did not actually read and understand the content, or they do not apply to you. And I feel that the former is much more likely
/r/seduction10/10/13 07:09 PM
1

Lol, what the fuck.
/r/seduction10/10/13 07:07 PM
1

If I had an account I would, but to set one up for the sake of asking...unless you want to do it, I'm fine :p
/r/seduction10/10/13 01:42 AM
1

Damn. So any idea where I could find it then?
/r/seduction09/10/13 11:57 PM
1

Sometimes it can be forgotten though. I immediately write off any girl that is manipulative, or plays games, and I have a few other dealbreakers right off the bat. However, there are some cute girls in my university that haven't shown me a lot of attention and this didn't cause me to "write them off". Maybe I should write them off for not being attracted to me, but I feel like that might change or that I don't know for sure they're not attracted. What I'm saying is, when a girl is hot enough, so…
/r/seduction09/10/13 11:56 PM
1

It is probably not called "business engagements" but something more broad and that was a point he made in it...I'm interested in watching it, do you post in the forums at RSD? I'm sure someone there might know where it is.
/r/seduction09/10/13 07:29 PM
1

I did not write the article, but this is how I responded to it initially: You know, considering that this is a new website, and that an article was already posted here yesterday from your site, I thought "great, another guy trying to promote this own blog". But this was brilliant. Truly, is it exactly what I needed right now. You've provided a model that explains a lot of my previous interactions with women: the ones that have been into me sexually and the ones that haven't. And then you wrapped…
/r/seduction09/10/13 07:28 PM
1

I didn't write the article, and I wouldn't really suggest that one if you don't naturally have an "edge". Play to your strengths. But I believe it means to have a mild badass, "I don't care what anyone thinks of me" attitude, and illustrate it through your actions
/r/seduction09/10/13 07:25 PM
1

Great post, this is what I was looking for. I especially liked your point about saying "no", I was in a similar situation recently and I'll have to keep that in mind. Have you read Models? Your second last line about qualifying and disqualifying women sounds very Models-esque, although I know it's an old concept. It's something I've implemented recently and has made a world of difference.
/r/seduction09/10/13 07:22 PM
2

Forget Models, No More Mr Nice Guy is EXACTLY what you need right now. You need to figure out how to set your own boundaries and overcome your own shame before you even consider going after women. After reading it and working on yourself, read Models, Models, and Models. I'm on the 3rd-4th read-through right now, and every time I read it, I see it in a different light and learn a whole new set of beliefs and approaches.
/r/seduction09/10/13 07:17 PM
1

Can you post the link to Tyler's video? Couldn't find it.
/r/seduction08/10/13 06:44 AM
3

No.
/r/seduction08/10/13 06:24 AM
1

I think it would be retarded to use it all the time or as your general game. Rather, I believe it's maybe an interesting way to get a response out of a girl who's giving you nothing. Force her to like you or hate you.
/r/seduction08/10/13 05:49 AM
2

I don't try to get them to like me either. What I'm saying is when he started to like me anyway, there was more to it. Almost as if making it scarce initially made it come across as more valuable in the end. Lol, this sounds so gay, but it's the same dynamic
/r/seduction08/10/13 05:48 AM
1

The main takeaway I got from you is that the man becomes a challenge; an object of intrigue. Good point.
/r/seduction08/10/13 05:47 AM
2

Therefore the only person you should be applying the 10-scale to is yourself. Instead of chasing after your “10′s,” make yourself into a 10. As you accomplish that, more and more attractive women will be drawn to you naturally, without effort. Mind. Blown.
/r/seduction08/10/13 05:45 AM
1

Watch Van Wilder
/r/seduction08/10/13 04:19 AM
3

Relax. We're talking about girls who aren't showing that much interest in us. The question is, WHY does it work? What does it mean about how humans think? And what kinds of lessons can we learn from this? Looks like this is just going to get downvoted to shit though.
/r/seduction08/10/13 04:13 AM
1

Props to you, sir.
/r/seduction08/10/13 04:11 AM
2

Mark Manson would say that you should pursue the girl just because you like her as a person and she fits YOUR criteria and aligns with YOUR values. If you like her for who she is, you'll be ok with going out with her and not getting laid after the second date or whatever, because you'll have fun regardless. Ironically, sex will often be a side-effect of these interactions (think about it: two people genuinely enjoying each other's company, and attracted to each other). Don't chase the sex direct…
/r/seduction08/10/13 04:02 AM
1

Took a couple weeks, but the first line you said was brilliant. Saw this girl once, never again, but have been seeing another since...and it applies more than ever. Not being desperate for gratification and being fulfilled is everything. Rarely heard that around here, but very well said
/r/seduction07/10/13 09:20 PM
5

Good point. Superficial conversation + kissing at the end = maybe they're getting the clear hint you're just after sex, and not actually interested in them. Find girls you're more interested in; sounds like 4 chicks you want to bone but aren't that great overall
/r/seduction07/10/13 08:55 PM
6

Good job on taking initiative. There's no point in really negging her in class though. Negging is meant to make hot, bitchy girls feel insecure. She doesn't know you or anything about you, just talk to her. And if YOU like her, as for her number. Don't be so easy to get just because she's hot ;). And as a recent great post here said: talk to her with the intention of seeing her again, NOT with the intention of just getting her number.
/r/seduction07/10/13 08:51 PM
2

Not really a shit test, she's just a little uncomfortable about the age difference. I feel this way about girls just a few years younger than me sometimes. It's normal. You just have to be cool with it so that she's cool with it. Alternatively, act like she's so hot and you just can't resist her regardless of the age difference
/r/seduction07/10/13 08:48 PM
3

Ah, the elation of closing a (shitty) chapter in your life. All the best going forward!
/r/seduction07/10/13 07:54 PM
1

You live on campus? Hit the campus bar, dance with her, take her home after to check out your place. Alternatively, go for a walk, talk, grab bubble tea or something, and then ask her if she wants to see your place. If she's as into you as she sounds, I'm sure she'll say yes
/r/seduction07/10/13 07:53 AM
4

Tbh I don't understand why big universities are considered places where you can talk to a hot girl and if she turns you down, never see her again. I've met people across faculties and my universities, and there's almost always a mutual friend, especially if you're a social person! OP, that stuff used to bug me all the time, and it still does to a degree. Reputation counts. Imo, treat the girls with respect, and if they're not interested, walk away. Then you'll only be left with girls who are int…
/r/seduction07/10/13 07:28 AM
1

Yeah, as Sportlift said. Honestly, if they don't seem interested at all and you simply walk away, why would they ever refer to you as creepy? Creepy guys are the guys that don't fuck off. When a girl is receptive to your flirting, amp it up, go for it! And when she's not, walk away. Quickly the only girls you talk to will be one who enjoy your flirting, and the good word will get around ;)
/r/seduction07/10/13 07:24 AM
6

Also, great article that goes into the traits that turn women on vs. traits like "being nice": http://developedman.com/get-out-of-friend-zone/
/r/seduction07/10/13 06:11 AM
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Chances are that when you are being "nice", you are coming across needy. Chances are you are supplicating and treating them just a little too nicely without strong enough boundaries. And when you're a "mean condescending asshole", chances are you're just drawing your boundaries more strongly which attracts women. If you're attracting women by ACTUALLY being an asshole, let me warn you that these are the worst women: completely insecure, shit-low self-esteem, and tons of baggage. Having said all …
/r/seduction07/10/13 06:10 AM
1

This is actually a really good post; it's an important distinction to make. I think the main question is: why are you friendzoned? Is it because you were needy and turned her off? In this case, good luck. Or is it because you weren't her type, but she sees your value and thinks you're a cool guy? Both are friendzoned. But in one case you still have social value, in the other, you don't.
/r/seduction07/10/13 06:04 AM
2

Not if you're friendzoned because you're needy. But if she's just not into you because you're not her type, but you're a cool guy, it totally applies
/r/seduction07/10/13 05:55 AM
1

http://imgur.com/lk06OUV
/r/seduction07/10/13 12:44 AM
3

Dousing your face with cold water is going to help you in the dating world? 3. Disagree for the reasons mentioned in the top comment. 4. Shoes comment is overrated. 6. Overthinking. 7. The sit next to girl comment is fucking weird, unless you're on a couch. If it's a dinner why on earth would you sit next to her? Across, and eye contact, and talk. 8. Great comment. 9. Straight out of the most exaggerated scene in the movie "Glengarry Glen Ross". 10. A comment derived straight from Mark Cuban and…
/r/seduction07/10/13 12:07 AM
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No offense, this sounds like advice from someone who doesn't get laid. I know, I don't get laid (yet).
/r/seduction06/10/13 06:54 PM
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"Enter the conversation with the goal of wanting her see her again" Brilliant. Getting the number becomes the side-effect, not the focus. Well done.
/r/seduction05/10/13 11:36 PM
1

I left religion behind forever ago. It wasn't what was holding me back.
/r/seduction04/10/13 12:51 AM
1

Good point...but what if SHE'S the one that won't stop talking about me? :p
/r/seduction04/10/13 12:51 AM
1

Great post!
/r/seduction02/10/13 06:57 PM
2

Best field report I've ever read. Great story and inspiring as well. I'm super motivated right now.
/r/seduction02/10/13 09:28 AM
1

Yo, already said I would. Just trying to ease this last bit of insecurity.
/r/seduction02/10/13 07:44 AM
2

This seems like such a mechanical sales tactic. Maybe they can sense that you're not genuinely interested in them as people. 1/10 is pretty low for getting a date
/r/seduction30/09/13 03:06 PM
-1

OP, sorry to tell you, but she's probably crazy. Having said that, she definitely wants the D, just don't fall in love
/r/seduction30/09/13 05:21 AM
3

Solid post. However, regarding SP, although they are definitely profit-focused, their videos are definitely not staged. They've made a few videos showing only rejections, and they were hilarious. They definitely pick out videos where girls were receptive and make it seem like the norm, but I have no doubt they get blown out a lot. I also have no doubt they get laid a lot too: the rejections don't stop them, and they're so pushy sexually that they're bound to get laid by the girls who ARE recepti…
/r/seduction30/09/13 02:29 AM
1

Initially this account was only made to post in a simple pickup AMA. And I told them why I was starting not to like them anymore. I'm more of a Mark Manson guy. Anyway, what do you have against simple pickup and their approach? I'm asking for constructive criticism not hate
/r/seduction29/09/13 07:34 PM
2

Haha, this was great, well written. Also, I honestly never call girls "sluts". That's why I had it in quotations marks in the OP. I felt like you guys would know what I'm talking about, but I'm always the first to interrupt people after they use the word and be like "hey hey hey....don't use that word"
/r/seduction29/09/13 07:32 PM
1

I guess it's feeling that if I wanted "whatever sex" I could've done that a long time ago. Good points though, appreciated. Also this girl I will see around so if I get sick her of she'll still be there. Would that have affected your decision?
/r/seduction29/09/13 07:27 PM
3

This is true. One time with all these people around, a girl asked me for a lighter. Didn't have one. And she NEVER asked anyone else and floated around my area for another 5 minutes. Girl are usually indirect like this. It's cute. Their job is to get your attention, your job is to walk up
/r/seduction29/09/13 07:23 PM
1

Yeah it's about the last point. I'm not exactly interested in having sex with her if I'm not that interested. It's not just a "whatever" scenario to me (like making out for example, which means almost nothing). So maybe that's what it is, or a big part of it: I don't want to look back on my first time with any regret. What if I get sick of the girl in a week and don't want to see her ever again? I've always seen losing it as something I can talk to the person about in the future. Like oh hey, re…
/r/seduction28/09/13 09:43 PM
2

Good reply, but I don't understand what you're saying by self-image. Are you saying that maybe I just fear getting rejected and so I'm using apathy as a defense mechanism? I'm not sure that's the case. I think I'm literally less interested. You know how girls are more sexually attracted to "bad boys", but never marry them? It's almost the same dynamic. I WANT the good traits of the chill girl, but it's the other ones that really turn me on. You COULD be right I suppose, but I don't think it's th…
/r/seduction28/09/13 08:58 PM
1

Yeah, this is a solid post.
/r/seduction27/09/13 08:59 AM
1

Thanks man. The first point doesn't help me at all. But the compliment thing is a good idea....I already do it SOMETIMES, but I think you're right, I'm just not ready to be open with hot chicks and try to get their numbers. I need to dish out compliments, and get comfortable with that. Maybe then I'll throw in a "so, how's your day so far?" and "what faculty are you in?". If she's extremely responsive (rare) I might stay and talk and go for the number, but anything else and I'll bye and keep wal…
/r/seduction27/09/13 08:27 AM
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Hahaha. "Technically, I'm making eye contact with your other set of eyes."
/r/seduction25/09/13 06:28 AM
1

Lately on campus I have been starting conversations with a lot of women, usually observational. Most seem to go well. However I am almost never stopping a girl to actually talk to her. I'll make her laugh then keep walking. This is because I'm just working on "talking to people". I feel like I'm ready to take the next step, but something is holding me back for going for it. I'm getting nervous just writing this out. Strange, because most have been receptive to me just talking. Yet when I want to…
/r/seduction25/09/13 06:27 AM
1

I'm going to make a new post instead of replying: This book is for people suffering from like....an extreme amount of shame. Like, if you haven't previously realized that you might have shame, and haven't done any work on it, yet have ALL these issues that nag at you daily...this book might be for you. It might be exactly what you might need. But coming from someone who has worked on it for a while, this stuff seems quite basic to me (and that's good news for OP and others: you WILL improve). Fo…
/r/seduction25/09/13 06:11 AM
1

If I could downvote this a million times I would. This was awful.
/r/seduction25/09/13 05:28 AM
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What kind of guy would you recommend the book for? I had a personal consultation with Mark Manson about a year ago that made me realize shame was holding me back. I've worked a lot on it since. Not sure if te book would still be relevant or not so let me know your answer my first question
/r/seduction24/09/13 09:48 PM
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Ignore all the other posts here so far. You're not ready to approach. Instead, make eye contact with them as you walk past them. Once you feel ready, smile and say hey, that's it. Start talking to everyone: guys, girls. Start random conversations, make observations at the bus stop, etc. One day you will be ready. You're not there yet, so break it down into steps you CAN actually do
/r/seduction23/09/13 06:53 PM
1

I believe this is called "getting lucky". Milk it. Enjoy
/r/seduction23/09/13 06:50 PM
1

Maybe you're trying too hard to entertain and coming across as needy.
/r/seduction20/09/13 11:01 PM
1

Well done sir. That is all.
/r/seduction20/09/13 10:46 PM
1

The issue is in your intentions. You are approaching to self-medicate. You are looking for validation, not just "a good time". Stop viewing these women as a way to get validation and make sure your intentions are purely sexual/romantic. This becomes easier when you meet an awesome girl.
/r/seduction20/09/13 04:59 AM
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Well, did you read it? You literally nailed it on the head: it's not just anecdotal evidence, it's been proven by science. Strange that it works that way, but it does! Good observation.
/r/seduction20/09/13 02:56 AM
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You described the pratfall effect flawlessly, were you familiar with it prior? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratfall_effect
/r/seduction19/09/13 11:34 PM
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She did end up replying, albeit hours later. Texted her today to see what she was doing, she said she was busy but suggested we hang out later. Am I overthinking shit if I'm doubting whether or not use exclamation marks? I didn't want to be respond with like "sure" to "let's hangout soon!", instead I was like, "I'm down!". And after sending it, I'm starting to think I came across too excited, but it's how I felt and I didn't want to play games. I've lost girls many times by playing it cool. What…
/r/seduction19/09/13 01:37 AM
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Thanks for replying. Regarding the first point, can you expand on what it means to "turn those things around"?
/r/seduction19/09/13 12:00 AM
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You know, this is actually a good post. #3 happened to me a couple weeks ago at a bar: A guy got in my face, and I basically started automatically ignoring him, not even acknowledging him, but the truth was I was scared. Eventually he was kicked out. What bugged me afterwards was that I didn't even address him: Not even a simple "What's the problem, man?" or "Why do you have a problem with me? I don't have a problem with you. I don't know you." In the moment, my instinct was to back down. I made…
/r/seduction18/09/13 10:13 PM
1

1) If I cold approach and the conversation is not really going anywhere, do you believe it's my job to move on or do I try to elicit more interest from her? My tendency is to walk away, and I only stick around with girls who I have awesome chemistry with...the problem is I eliminate the vast majority of women by doing this. But I hate the notion of trying to be more interesting when a girl is boring the fuck out of me. 2) I have to hear what you think of Mark Manson. He has strong (negative) opi…
/r/seduction18/09/13 09:34 PM
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I'm starting to think this might be your strength, the other articles I've read have definitely not been as strong :p
/r/seduction18/09/13 08:44 PM
1

Hahaha where I'm from they're all nuts. Well, except for ONE I know. It's a shame because they're all drawn to me physically...but there's something about Arabic/East Indian girls that adds to the crazy. Misogynistic fathers that lower their self-esteem maybe? Who knows.
/r/seduction18/09/13 08:39 PM
1

The 4 "rejections" were Facebooks. 20 for 20 for contact info
/r/seduction18/09/13 08:37 PM
1

How many girls do you have in your life that absolutely loved your attention for years but friendzoned you, that you still bump into, that are nuts, etc etc? I think this story is one of the rare times where this shit works so well. I think it's the exception, not the norm. Yes, there is SOMETHING about being apathetic towards insecure women that gets them sexually interested in you, but take the story with a grain of salt imo.
/r/seduction18/09/13 05:26 AM
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Yeah, I think you can expect a call from her at some point anyway. You seem to genuinely not care/genuinely have other options, and so you'll always be able to keep the distance, and maybe get the occasional lay. Was this girl Iranian/Persian? Not to offend any Iranian girls, but...lots of crazies compared to the average
/r/seduction18/09/13 05:22 AM
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I had just gotten a girl's number before I read it (but not yet texted her) and it inspired me to add a little more mystery and confidence so when I texted her I removed the "haha" that I would have normally put in there, as it seemed supplicating. And I never got a reply. LOL. Maybe I should just stick to being genuine and not changing my game
/r/seduction18/09/13 05:19 AM
2

I think that subtle difference in phrasing is huge. Definitely gonna use it, thanks.
/r/seduction18/09/13 05:17 AM
2

Yeah that's what I was asking. If you called her up, do you think she'd be down? But yeah, sounds quite specific, maybe even a one-time thing. Hilarious that she literally got off your dick and said maybe we shouldn't: the girl I mentioned would've done exactly the same thing. Crazies gonna crazy. Unfortunately for me I probably won't get the chance to nail mine, but I'm honestly not even that into her anymore. If somehow we bumped into each other, I'll be keeping you in mind. Bet you mine's cra…
/r/seduction18/09/13 04:19 AM
2

Reminds me of the last girl I really liked. I have distanced myself from her and don't expect to see her again, but it's good to know that some guys out there and finally nailing what they wanted for so long. Question: Do you think it will happen again? Be careful not to lose the mentality.
/r/seduction18/09/13 03:10 AM
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You know, considering that this is a new website, and that an article was already posted here yesterday from your site, I thought "great, another guy trying to promote this own blog". But this was brilliant. Truly, is it exactly what I needed right now. You've provided a model that explains a lot of my previous interactions with women: the ones that have been into me sexually and the ones that haven't. And then you wrapped it up by emphasizing that we're not replacing our good guy values, just s…
/r/seduction18/09/13 02:20 AM
2

Although I will add, it did inspire me to get a girl's number just now. These days I've become way picker about getting numbers (after nights of the 5 for 5 where they meant nothing) and so I rarely ask unless the conversation is amazing. Just had a solid conversation with a cute girl, not long at all, but went for the number close and got it. More importantly, she seemed really cool and I'm going to ask her out tonight. Haha.
/r/seduction18/09/13 02:07 AM
2

A lot of life is beyond our control. Putting ourselves in situations with the most opportunities for our unique strengths makes life much, much easier.
/r/seduction17/09/13 11:49 PM
1

You tried to game with a genuine, non-manipulative girl. Hope you learned your lesson
/r/seduction17/09/13 11:26 PM
1

Good point, I guess just saying it gets the point across, belief or not
/r/seduction17/09/13 11:17 PM
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Not to hate, but I have doubts about going 20 for 20, unless you're attractive and come off way more confident than you realize. Actually, I'm more curious how the texting goes. I remember nights where I've gone 5 for 5 or something like that, but the replies were awful and girls were flakey the vast majority of the time. Still, great line
/r/seduction17/09/13 11:16 PM
1

It happens 100% of the time in cases where I want the girl to know I think she's attractive so I don't get friendzoned. If she doesn't accept the compliment, that task wasn't accomplished
/r/seduction17/09/13 05:12 PM
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The girl you talked about sounds like a bimbo with low self-esteem. She wants you to treat her poorly. I don't know what is being asked here
/r/seduction17/09/13 08:02 AM
1

With over 100 comments already, this post will probably get lost. However, OP, this post was genuine as fuck, extremely well said, and brilliant (not to mention wise and humble). Thank you sir.
/r/seduction16/09/13 07:25 PM
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Mark Manson probably had a lot to do with that. I'm a big fan of his and have been following him for a few years but after still not getting the results I wanted I realized: you DEFINITELY need outer game. Yes, solid inner game is crucial to your happiness, but if you want to get laid, you need outer game. I qualify too much I'm starting to realize, and other bad habits that inner game won't fix (not in less than 5 years anyway). I had drifted away from SimplePickup (too gamey) and focused more …
/r/seduction14/09/13 06:44 PM
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